allison barber is a reporter for "the washington journal" and joins us now, they won't tell us explicitly're hearing now that 67,000 have enrolled in the private exchanges so far at the state level. 286,000 have enrolled in medicaid. the first group is supposed to fund the second group. the ratio is not looking so good so far. what does it mean? >> it could be a catastrophe if the pattern continues, it could be catastrophic for the law itself. the whole premise of the law is based on healthy people buying into it. so the theory those enrolling in the medicaid program is different than the exchanges. but if you have more people enrolling it in the broader numbers, that increases the help. it increases the people for free insurance, and the number in the high risk. >> but not free for the american taxpayer. this was part of obama care's vision, though, to get more people onto the medicaid rolls. these are people who are uninsured, they show up at the emergency room and we wind up paying for them anyway. this was part of the vision. that we would get them on a program like medicaid, we would