definitely something there budget might not be exactly what amy cuddy said it was. >> i was thinking as you were talking but the supreme court justices and holiday they sort of tended to change the way they spoke to fit into that dominant male paradigm how the conversation was happening. thought about a conference i've been attending over the last couple of of days where some of the male participants feel pretty entitled to take a whole lot of time, like more their allotted time talk but whatever they seem to feel like tuck talking about and a lot of the onus in changing the way the dialogue happens seems to be on women to change the way they talk to participate in the dominant pear dime set by men. do you see in your work any conversation about men changing how they talk? >> right. that's such an interesting question. the question is, referring to the supreme court study where the women on the court began to talk more like men so they could get in there and have their fair share of the conversation and their say, and a panel where men talk a lot but the women are told, well, instead