. -- this is andrew selee of the migration policy institute. good morning.s far as the institute itself, explain to people what it is. guest: we are a nonpartisan independent think tank that works on migration issues around the world. we work on a lot of the migration issues in the u.s., but we try to be balanced and evidence-based. we assume migration is generally positive, but it depends on how you manage it. it is generally good if you manage it well, but how you manage it really matters and people can disagree on that. we bring in different opinions and tried to figure out how we balance them with equity. host: we are here to talk about title 42. as a management policy how has it been since it has been enacted? guest: the assumption of title 42 is that it is the toughest measure ever implemented at the order. --implemented at the border. it has turned out not to be a great enforcement. it has been somewhat -- a lot of people get in. the fact that people get sent back to mexico and not their country of origin for a migrant perspective is sometimes prefera

you are on with our guest andrew selee. caller: let me tell you, i am a veteran and i am on social security. i live in texas. i know about all the bases, the u.s. army bases, all that is not being used. they can take them bases and can use them and take people from the border and take them to different take -- places without overcrowding. they have barracks and housing and they can use that. they can bring planes, they have to deploy you out of there. it is no reason -- they talk about they have a security -- all they have to do is wait there and take people on the plane and take them to bases in houston they are. they can check them out and everything they need to do. if they are not well, fly them right back out. you don't have to have all these governors talking about, i will send them to the sanctuary state. host: dr. point -- got your point. guest: i think there is a lot of interest in doing this. it is concave. what -- when you try to do things across the u.s. government, i marvel at this, how complicated it is to do

host: our guest andrew selee of the immigration institute will take your questions.(202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. if you live in a border state, (202) 748-8003. you can use that same number to text us your comments as well. those border state residents, what have their experience been like? what are they expecting thursday? guest: it has changed over time. there were massive amounts of people living in border communities. what the white house is working with them with is how to process them quickly. the numbers went way down. i think they are expecting a huge dilution because the government will not -- huge dilution because the government will not -- huge deluge because the government will not be able to process everyone. my colleagues went from san diego all the way to brownsville, and we were able to go to border patrol stations, places of entry, and talk with ngo's. we were quite impressed by that. a a lot of this will break down. it will take them longer to process people. numbers will go up because they are no longer c