back with us, andrew weissmann. what do you make of this one?. this is the 11th circuit ruling in a way completely contrary, shocker, to judge cannon. >> every time her work has been presented to them, they have overruled her. >> on a trump matter, that is exactly right. it is, this is strike three. so she was reversed twice pretrial, but for a pre-indictment, actually, and here the defendants asked for an injunction and it was denied. that does leave in place, because what's next? so that leaves in place that judge cannon said that there is an injunction for three more days. presumably, she gave those three days in order for the defendants to have an ability to go to the supreme court. so there is no downside for them to try to seek supreme court review of this. that seems highly unlikely even for this supreme court that they would take this case. and so three days from now, i think it's, you know, an incredibly good chance we are going to see the volume of the report that relates to the january 6th investigation and with respect to the part of

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we'll discuss that momentarily with andrew weissmann. since no one was thrown off the cases involving donald trump, it's impossible to know who he meant and i'm not going to guess. that's a mistake. guessing what donald trump means when he says something incoherent is a mistake. that is an attempt to impose logic on what is coming out of donald trump's incoherent mind and that is impossible. all we know is donald trump said cannon was thrown off the case and whoever he was talking about, he could not possibly have meant cannon. it would be worth keeping a count from this day forward of how many names donald trump gets wrong when he is speaking publicly while at the same time tracking how many stories "the new york times" does not do about donald trump getting names wrong. i for one don't think getting names wrong is a big deal. i repeat, not a big deal, but the washington press corps believed that every time joe biden got a name wrong it was a huge deal. it was a news story. if that's their new standard for the presidency, they had bette

joining me now is andrew weissmann, former general counsel at the fbi and a senior member of special rt mueller's team. i just want to start with the big picture here, andrew. i mean, we talked about this last week, but it feels a little bit like the end of a chapter on these legal cases. and maybe that this could incentivize this kind of behavior without consequences in the future. i mean, there's only one trump, but just in general. but how are you thinking about this moment? >> well, if you think about the idea that there could be pardons for the people who were involved in january 6th, it is it gets to be a pretty dystopian world that when you think that somebody could be committing crimes as outrageous and horrendous as not just attacking, attacking police officers, but really attacking our democracy and doing it at the behest of the president, but would face no criminal consequences, at least federally, because they're either the department of justic. >> under trump, 2.0 will not go after them, or they could be pardoned for prior crimes or future crimes that they commit at his b

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also andrew weissmann is back with us.han. >> i think it is about the strong forceful move for accountability that we have left. it was already a foreground conclusion that trump was not going to see the inside of a jail cell and what he has tried to do since the election is somehow claim the fact of the election kind of wiped away everything about this conviction and judge marchan said no, no, and no and it would undermine the rule of law in immeasurable ways. he wrote, for you not to be sentenced now -- i think it is secondary and as i say already established whether or not he does time, but this establishes the fact of conviction, historically, politically, is big. he has the scarlet letter and he will fight hard now, although it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. i do not think he has strong claims for a stay, even though he can appeal it down the line. i think we will see a week from today judge merchan give them a hard talking to , only imposing an unconditional discharge, which is less than a slap on th

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joining us now is andrew weissmann, he is an msnbc legal analyst. are we going to see this report?will. i think the key thing to keep your eye on is in addition to this letter to merrick garland, they have made a motion to judge cannon. some people might be going, how could they make a motion to judge cannon because donald trump is no longer a defendant there, but the two remaining defendants who are remaining defendants until january 20th, because we all know on january 20th that the current president will say dismiss the whole case completely, but the current two defendants, the former co- defendants have made a motion to judge cannon to block the release. saying, in essence, that this would harm them in terms of the fairness of their trial. judge cannon, wild card because she has yet to rule in some subsidence way and that is why i think we could see action by her and the 11th circuit. that is where i think the real issue is. >> it does seem possible that judge cannon could easily order this report to not be made public. >> absolutely. and if she waits long enough it could essen

andrew weissmann is the former general counsel at the fbi, neal katyal is the former acting u.s.eneral. you know them both. here we are. okay. neal, i think, obviously, this was a strongly worded from judge merchan. for anyone who is not a lawyer and wondering what is the point of a sentencing hearing but not punishing him at all, what is the point? >> yeah, so it's strongly worded in two different senses. one, the first part, judge merchan really says, look, trump violated the law, had felony convictions. this jury, this guilty verdict wasn't handed down by operatives or elites. it was a jury of 12 of donald trump's peers who listened, deliberated, and affirmed the enduring principle that no one is above the law. that's part one of the decision. the judge says i am not going to overturn this conviction. the jury rendered it in a fair and impartial way. part two about the sentencing, the judge says, but i am going to -- i am likely to give an unconditional discharge, which, as you say, means no jail time. it's still important because it's still a felony conviction and donald trum

joining me on the phone is andrew weissmann, msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. i will let you register whether you agree with our ousurprise, d if you could, andrew, because to me this decision by the supreme court, this very surprising decision is also an indictment in many ways on the justice department, which has so clearly failed to hold donald trump accountable even for an attempted coup. but it is new york. it is the stalwart pursuit of justice by alvin bragg and the commitment of this judge to follow through and to have had case come to finality that has brought us here. your thoughts? >> well, there is no question that you can't say enough good things about alvin bragg and about the state court judge here who did the right thing and kept their head down and wanted to make sure that the rule of law applied regardless of station. t there is a lot of blame to go around, including to the supreme court in terms of why the federal cases did not proceed in the same way that we are seeing with big court proceedings. a couple of thoughts on the 5-4 decision. the k

joining our discussion now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and an msnbc legal analystt out these dueling statements today? >> well, i think the first and most important thing for people to understand is that the biden administration allowed a special counsel to be appointed to bring a criminal case against the son of the sitting president. you know, this that is if you're sort of thinking about is the department weaponizing against enemies. well, this is a department of justice that brought a case against the son of the sitting president. and there's also no question that the tax offenses and the gun offenses were committed, and that hunter biden is guilty of that. the argument that abbe lowell, his counsel, is making is that it sort of only because he was the son of the sitting president, did the special counsel go forward? in other words, he was sort of singled out for that reason. and other people similarly situated would not have been prosecuted. i'm somewhat sympathetic to that idea. and the filing that i've now read, you know, up one side and down the other is co

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andrew weissmann is here. the reverend al sharpton joins us. he's the president of the national action network, the host of msnbc's politics nation. here at the table with us, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is here. vaughn hillyard, i start with you. >> everything about what happened today was something that trump sought to offramp himself from. >> he sought to delay. the trial had some success. it was delayed. but it happened. sought to have the incoming deputy attorney general of the united states. i think todd blanch, his criminal defense attorney, have it thrown out before, during and after he did not succeed. there were efforts to shape the outcome as it was ongoing. there were efforts to intimidate at least some of the witnesses while it was ongoing. there was an extraordinary intervention by the united states supreme court, including by four of them yesterday. donald trump didn't want what happened today to happen, and it did. >> the supreme court last night, justice amy coney barrett, justice john roberts, they did not intervene

andrew weissmann, i start with you. where is jack smith? where'd he go?he rules, jack smith as his final act under the special counsel regulations, has to write a report. and that report, under the rules, is given privately to the attorney general. so it was really understandable that when he did that, when he handed this in now several days ago, he sort of done the issue of all the litigation and what's happening that's on the attorney general of the united states as to whether he wants to make it public and the litigation of that. that's not part of what the special counsel does. so i understand jack smith saying, well, we've done what we can do. remember, he also you cannot indict a sitting president. you cannot proceed with a criminal case against a sitting president, which is why he moved to dismiss without prejudice the two criminal cases that he had brought because of the imminency of donald trump assuming that. but what that really leaves is merrick garland litigating the two volumes of this final report. and i unless the supreme court intervenes,

joining us now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, former member of special counsel robert andrew, it's nice to see you. thanks for being here. >> nice to be here. >> let me ask you about that last question first. this the senate judiciary, democrats asking the justice department to preserve all the information related to this case, the arizona attorney general, asking to please have all the information from this case. how do those queries relate to this report we might see tomorrow? and what do you make of those requests? >> so that's i think really the question which is how do you make sure that this evidence, the underlying evidence that you noted, rachel, does not disappear. now, of course, some of that evidence is going to overlap with the january 6th evidence. and so that is something that has been made public by the january 6th committee. but obviously there's a lot more. the federal government has grand jury power. they interviewed a host of witnesses. and the name of the game here is if you want to make sure that that is not destroyed by the next incoming administr

we're going to be talking with andrew weissmann about the release of that report live here in just a few minutes, looking at what to expect from that report, looking at some intriguing requests made by at least one state attorney general who's asking to obtain the whole report, the whole case file, for the purposes of possible state charges, which is super interesting. we're going to have more on that in a moment, but we are expecting that report sometime after midnight tonight or sometime during the day tomorrow. also tomorrow again, we've got two confirmation hearings that were scheduled tomorrow that have been canceled. but still the most radical one is apparently still on. now, while nbc news has not independently verified this reporting, the washington post reported. when the pete hegseth nomination was first announced that the trump transition had apparently not even been told to try to start vetting pete hegseth, to not even start looking into his background until after trump had already offered him the job of defense secretary, according to the washington post, reporting. tru

a clip of msnbc legal analyst andrew weissmann and what he said today on the weekend, about merrick garland'sied documents report. >> i think he got something technically wrong when he said there is a pending case, judge cannon pointedly, when she dismissed the case before her. as to all three defendants, not just donald trump, she ordered the case closed. now, it is true that the department of justice is appealing that decision. as to the two codefendants. but come on, a there's no pending case in the district court per judge cannon's own order. and everybody knows that on january 20th that that case is never going to go forward. >> your thoughts on this, joe, do you think or do you agree that merrick garland is, i hate to say it once again, wrong in his claim that there is still a pending case. >> let me take. >> sorry, joe. i think we're having a hard time with your audio. i'm not sure if something happened. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. go ahead. >> okay. i agree with andrew, but i would say that case should look. >> joe, we're still having a technical issue with your audio. i'm so sorr

jack smith has officially resigned from the justice department, and andrew weissmann is going to tellat all of it means. and later, all those devastating wildfires continue to tear through southern

andrew weissmann spent years serving in department of justice, including as the lead prosecutor, mueller'sel office. judge diane kiesel recently retired from new york state supreme court bench, having previously served as a criminal court judge and as a prosecutor in the manhattan district attorney's office. they join me now. good to have you both here. let's start in the 11th circuit thing, which is actually, like, bizarrely, procedurally complicated. what do you think the outcome should be here? let's start with that. >> i think the outcome should be, and i will dare say i think the outcome will be that that we will see the january 6th part of the report. in other words, there's a january 6th part. there's the mar-a-lago classified documents part. i think that aileen cannon's order, by its own terms, ends in three days. i think now it's two days. so by monday, we should be able to see that the 11th circuit may also issue an opinion sort of chastising her, because obviously they disagree with her view, because they just denied the application by the two co-defendants to say they wanted an

joining us now, andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former senior member of the muellern msnbc legal analyst alongside him. susan del percio, republican strategist, msnbc political analyst and nbc news correspondent garrett hake. >> so, garrett, let's start with you. what are donald trump's next steps now that the sentencing is over? >> well, it's an interesting question, jose, because donald trump has used these proceedings against him, particularly here in new york, but also in atlanta, to his immense political benefit. he's used them to fundraise. he's used them to rally republicans around him in times where he was running for office. and he continues to make some of that effort. now, we've already seen one fundraising appeal go out from him earlier today, and we've seen him file a lengthy post on truth social with all the usual attacks that he has made against the judge in this case and against the case itself. now, over the next couple of days down in florida, he's expected to meet with different groups of house republicans. they are in ostensibly going there to tal

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joining our conversation, former top official of the department of justice and msnbc legal analyst andrew weissmannpondent for vanity fair and host of the fast politics podcasts . all right, here is the thing. the president's job is to offer comfort and to offer clarity and especially in moments of potential terrorism, where terrorism only succeeds if we feel terrorized, to actually add to that, to fan the flames, is moving in the wrong direction. >> it absolutely is. clarity is very important because it is easy for people to, you know, moved to their own opinions and frustrations very quickly. when you show leadership, he is not just a symbol of the country, but of the rest of the world. so, the comments he is making are not just to american citizens. it is to the rest of the world. the media reaction, to say close our borders, this is -- blaming immigration and so on, it really does add fuel to the fire. texas born u.s. citizen. that is important because it suggests this goes back to the conversation we just had. anyone can be radicalized. if you take that seriously and you understand what has to

department of justice, mary mccord is, and former top official of the department of justice, andrew weissmannthe co-host of msnbc's newly rebranded podcast, main justice. i love that. i love that name. i feel like we will talk about that every single day. first, on judge merchan. your thoughts? >> i think his decision was sort of old and trying to uphold the rule of law. it is important for people to understand he had very limited options. it was basically trying everything now or putting everything off for four years because the one thing that is true is there is this temporary presidential immunity while someone is president. so, the idea in many ways of having this linger or be over the presidents head for four years, you would think in some ways it is something that a president would not want, to be like him okay, i can appeal it. you know, i think that judge merchan did the right thing, but i think what is going on in the political realm, i think they do not want a bad day between now and the 20th, which is friday, that would be a sentencing of the president- elect, and that way his lawy

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