a particular emphasis on the case of wiki leaks coming up our team sits down with the author andy greenberg and then later be careful not to run red lights in some parts of the u.s. local governments are sending out tickets thanks to red light cameras but wait a minute some city employees caught on the cameras don't have to pay so is this just a way for local agencies to make money. it's wednesday september nineteenth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for south and you're watching our t.v. . let's begin today as we have for the last several days with a look at the latest in what's happening in the middle east and north africa over the last eight days protests on the streets of cities in several countries have become widespread and in some cases have gotten violent most most have come out say they're protesting an anti muslim film made in the united states that insults the prophet mohammed and one of the major events today a rally in lebanon planned by husband here's our correspondent paula slayer with more. tens of thousands of protesters have taken to the southern lebanese city of

the twenty first century would be wise to expect more broadly mannix of the man who wrote that andy greenberg joined us earlier he's a staff writer at forbes magazine and also the author of the new book this machine kills secrets how we can leakers cypherpunks and hacktivists aim to free the world's information and he first explained his contrast daniel ellsberg and probably manning i think you know what i was trying to do was draw a contrast partly in their motivations but i believe fundamentally they both saw themselves as whistleblowers the contrast between the two that i was trying to draw out really was more of a of a matter of the ease of the lived in than the technology that they used and what i think we can see is that is that ellsberg actually expected to go to prison for the leak that he was perpetrating that you know this the seven thousand top secret pages that were the pentagon papers whereas manning although he said he was willing to go to prison you know to his credit as a whistleblower he never expected to and i think that that shows that in the forty years between anonymity t

well the man who wrote that is andy greenberg staff writer at forbes magazine he's also the author of a new book this machine kills secrets how we can leakers cypherpunks and hacktivists and to free the world's information and he joins us now thanks so much for speaking to us and i know your book really covers a wide range of topics but let's start with this comparison that you draw between bradley manning and daniel ellsberg we've interviewed ellsberg a number of times he's unfeeling in his support for private manning but why do you think so many people today and he draw this distinction which you know put very simplified i. put very simple you know classifies ellsberg as a hero and manning as you know a treasonous villain well i think you know what i was trying to do was draw a contrast partly in their motivations but i believe fundamentally they both saw themselves as whistleblowers the contrasts between the two that i was trying to draw out really was more of a of a a matter of the ease that they lived in the technology that they used and what i think we can see is that is that el

we're going to turn to innovation in cybersecurity, in the next panel followed by keynote like andy greenberg was the author of this machine kills secrets. and you know wikileaks absolute change the landscape in washington for information sharing and cybersecurity so you won't want to miss the. i will see you back here in 10 minutes. thanks. [inaudible conversations] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [inaudible conversations] >> [inaudible conversations] spent a short break. we expect this event to get back underway in just a few minutes and we'll continue our live coverage on c-span2. >> [inaudible conversations] >> [inaudible conversations] >> [inaudible conversations] >> our live coverage from a couple more live events for today. live coverage of a nebraska senate debate that's between democrat bob kerrey and republican derek fisher. an open seat in nebraska created by the retirement of democratic senator ben nelson. we'll have that for you live at noon eastern on c-span, courtesy of key etd in omaha, nebraska. also will have remarks from the president of yemen on the future of this country in light of security p