he didn't necessarily have, angus king. didn't have taken. it took a year. to get to this point, where it really is these two. >> yes. that is an excellent point. all of those senators that you are describing, angus king, gave that unbelievable senate floor speech. where he explained his movement on this issue and why he now supports the rules change. that was a phenomenal speech. maggie hasse, that kind of description. those are all relatively recent as you pointed out. democrats had to get their. but also, joe manchin had to go through his -- said no, you democrats are doing the wrong bill. if we do this bill the way i do. are joe, you are at the bill that. he got to rewrite all the voting rights legislation. that's proving to himself, in front of all of us, that the republicans weren't going to vote for any of it. he had to go through that process too. and also, senator sinema, as bench illustrious set here on the show, had to get to a point where it was looking like she was going to be arizona standing in the way of the martyr luther king holiday. they w

you didn't necessarily have -- you didn't have angus king for sure a year ago. you didn't have tim kaine. so now it took a year to get to this point where it really is these two. >> yes, and that's an excellent point. and all of those senators that you are describing, angus king gave that unbelievable speech where he explained his movement on this issue and why he now supports the rules change. that was a phenomenal speech. maggie hassan, those were relatively recent, as you point out. these moderate senators among the democrats had to get there. joe manchin had to go through his motions, right? manchin said, no, you democrats are doing the wrong bill, i swear, you know, if we do this bill the way i know how to do the bill, all the republicans vote for it. okay, joe, you write the bill. thus proving to himself in front of all of us that actually the republicans weren't going to vote for any of it. he had to go through that process, too, and senator sinema, i mean, as ben jealous said on the show, had to get to a point perhaps where it was lacking like she was go

i thought angus king's speech, which was not as eloquent quite as the one he gave a few weeks ago onas the best speech today along with merkley, was extraordinarily powerful. and i think your point is a really important one, lawrence. this is not a change that people made easily or made just because hey, now we've got the power, we want to roll over the senate. it was a long and painful change based on experience, based on the reality that this is not the senate the way it used to operate. it is the filibuster used as a weapon of mass obstruction. and it's time to bring about a change. and for senator king especially it was because he believes, as so many other of his colleagues do, that we face an existential threat to our democracy. to hear mitch mcconnell basically say there's nothing going on out there, the states aren't doing anything unusual, was another part of the disingenuousness that we've come to expect from the minority leader. >> joe manchin today did make a speech. it was not a careful speech. he was using a lot of the material he's used before. it's as if it was a spee

no, go ahead. >> woodruff: i didn't mean to interrupt, we're hearing from angus king.publicans? they blocked this legislation last fall. what are their principal arguments against this and what are the dements going to do about that? >> reporter: republicans say that this is a power grab by democrat senate leader mitch mcconnell also says, in the past, these same democrats stood up for the filibuster when they were in the minority. democrats say this is a different case because what's at stake here are the voting rights and the state of elections in this country overall. what are they going to go about potential rules changes, how can they get around the filibuster? these are the most options under consideration. the first option that i know many democrats would like is to just get rid of the 60 vote threshold altogether. honestly, senators manchin and sinema is not on board. option two, a carve-out from the filibuster just for voting rights. some democrats are on board that idea specifically, but it doesn't seem to have enough to get over the hurdle and to have the ca

senator angus king, an independent who caucuses with democrats. senator ben sasse, a republican.im landsman, a republican -- a democrat. and a republican from wisconsin. in addition we appointed four executive branch managers to bring the information in, the fbi, the deputy director -- secretary of defense and deputy secretary of homeland -- of homeland security. in addition we had six outline -- outside experts, the ceo of companies or government officials, think tank leaders. they were supported by the staff that i led that studied the cybersecurity problem and mccain said you have one year to come back with real solutions which is a fast turnaround rate. in nine months be produced a report that we issued in march, 2020. we put out additional papers looking at additional issues. we spent the last 18 months, fiscal year 2021 and 2022 trying to turn the recommendations of that commission into law and we have been highly successful. we had 82 original >> seeing this as a critical infrastructure and the weakest link, we took a study on it. host: you highlight the experiences of one

senator angus king, an independent who caucuses with democrats. senator ben sasse, a republican. jim landsman, a republican -- a democrat. and a republican from wisconsin. in addition we appointed four executive branch managers to bring the information in, the fbi, the deputy director -- secretary of defense and deputy secretary of homeland -- of homeland security. in addition we had six outline -- outside experts, the ceo of companies or government officials, think tank leaders. they were supported by the staff that i led that studied the cybersecurity problem and mccain said you have one year to come back with real solutions which is a fast turnaround rate. in nine months be produced a report that we issued in march, 2020. we put out additional papers looking at additional issues. we spent the last 18 months, fiscal year 2021 and 2022 trying to turn the recommendations of that commission into law and we have been highly successful. we had 82 original recommendations, 50 were legislative and we have accomplished between 60 and 80% of those recommendations. they are either in law

senator angus king of maine was in an independent caucus, then sasse, and jim langevin. we had four executive branch managers to bring a lot of ex information in. the director of the fbi, deputy director of the or excuse me, deputy secretary of defense, homeland security the deputy director of national intelligence and then in addition we had six outside experts. the ceos of companies, for government officials, those 14 commissioners were reported by staff that i studied the cyber security problem and mccain said you have one year to come back with real solutions which is a very fast turn rates and in about nine months we produced a final report of the cyberspace legislation issue in much of 2020 is that we put up six additional white papers but we then spent the last 18 months, to legislative cycles, the fiscal year 2021 and 2022 legislative cycles trying to turn the recommendations of the commission into law and we've been highly successful. we had the two original recommendations, 50 of which were legislative and we accomplished between 60 and 80 percent of those reco

very hesitant to talk about the filibuster and blowing it up for this, people like jon tester or angus kingmore about that and how they're moving closer to that. there still remains very direct opposition from joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. manchin has said he's potentially open to some rule changes, but what is exactly and how would they move forward? so we just kind of end up right back where the circle began. >> you know, john, president biden linked the whole idea of voting rights to the insurrection. watch this. >> today we come to atlanta, the cradle of civil rights, to make clear what must come after that dreadful day when a dagger was literally held at the throat of american democracy. that's why we're here today, to stand against the forces in america that value power over principle, forces that attempted a coup, a coup against the legally expressed will of the american people by sowing doubt and seeking to steal the 2020 election from the people. they want chaos to reign. we want the people to rule. >> so he is casting the fight for voting rights as a response to january 6th. if

one more comment from angus king, angus king was asked about it on cnn about the filibuster, and he repliedk he's 100% opposed to killing the filibuster. 100%. senator cory booker responded about the filibuster, he said, my colleagues and i, and everybody i've talked to, believe the legislative flib should stay there, and i -- filibuster should stay there, and i will personally resist efforts to get rid of it of chris coons when asked about this in 2018 replied i'm committed to never voting to change the legislative filibuster. never. it senator jacky rosen in 2019 was asked about this, she replied, i think we should keep the legislative filibuster. it's one of the few things that we have to left in order to let all the voices be heard here in the senate. shes are said -- also said we have to look at not just when you're in the majority, but what does it do when you're in the minority? you have to be mindful of that of jeanne shaheen was asked on cnn about the legislative filibuster in 2021. and she answered just simply -- no, i would not support eliminating the 60-vote threshold, would not

some of our most moderate senators, we have a group of three senators constantly talking to them, angus kingtor from virginia as well, saying to them, we were not for changing the rules but we changed our mind. too much is at stake. it's a constant, constant discussion. we'll keep going until we succeed. elizabeth: all right. he just forgot the name of senator tim kaine. he said the quiet part out loud. his inare voice was speaking that they want vote reform in order to win, keep winning elections. listen to senator schumer in 2005. watch this. >> they want, because they can't get their way on every judge, to change the rules in midstream. to wash away 200 years of history. they want to make this country into a banana republic where if you don't get your way, you change the rules. are we going to let them? >> no. >> it will be a doomsday for democracy if we do. elizabeth: all right. are they now trying to turn america into a banana republic? >> there are so many doomsdays for democracies when you're talking to politics in d.c. usually what that means, what that is code for i'm not getting my

the report says that the senators in this meeting, in addition to sinema were, tim kaine, angus king,z, elizabeth warren, ben cardin, chris coons, maggie hassan. rachel you were talking earlier about how some moderates in the senate have been on board for a rules change. and maybe among the most effective people lobbying

and norm, angus king spoke tonight and independent senator from maine, for the senators who have changednds about this just within the last year. joe manchin frequently points out in years past, many of these democratic senators has said we should not change this rule in any way. but they have all changed their minds. that is kind of the point. that they change their minds. they once thought that this was a reasonable way for the senate to proceed, but in the day-to-day experience of the senate dysfunction, they have changed their minds. what is very clear, is that you would not have 48 votes on chuck schumer's position on this a year ago, or even possibly six months ago. >> we've seen a lot of people, mostly republicans and conservatives, who have been saying, there have been a lot of other senators who liked the cover that manchin and sinema were giving moms. they didn't really want this. they weren't sure what was gonna go down. they wanted to protect themselves. none of them did. i think angus's speech, which was not as eloquent as the one given a few weeks ago but was good today, wa

maggie hassan, angus king, kain in virginia.that is what we need to have happened over these next few days as senator schumer reintroduces this legislation. everybody has a role to play, but we're glad the president has leaned in a little more in regards to filibuster reform. amy: let's hear what president joe biden said about filibuster reform when it comes to voting rights. pres. biden: the filibuster is not used by republicans to bring the senate together but to pull it further apart. filibuster is weaponized in abused. all you need in your house and senate is a clear majority. the united states senate, takes a super majority. 60 votes even to get a vote. instead of 50 to protect the right to vote. state legislators can pass down anti-voting laws with a simple majority. if they can do that, the united states and it be able to protect voting rights by a simple majority. [applause] pres. biden: today, i am making it clear to protect our democracy, i support changing the senate rules -- whichever way they need to be changed, to

i've joined with amy klobuchar and angus king on the democratic side. we're talking about the same basic challenges. we want to make sure the electoral college is valid and, of course, we have the disclosure last week of the january 6th committee in the house looking into false slates of electors that are being selected in seven or eight states in the last presidential election. you know, it really raises a question about the integrity of that process. it hasn't been looked at for 150 years. now's the time. >> also, finally, how about on build back better, is it dead right now? is it dormant? what can happen before the midterms? >> i don't want to give up on it. there are so many important things for families across america. you talked about the poling data coming back. look at basic issues. making sure we negotiate on the price of prescription drugs, overwhelming popular with democrats and republicans. if we can achieve that, it's a step forward. helping families pay for daycare so that the folks can go to work with peace of mind that their kids are in

most moderate senators, we have a group of three senators who is constantly talking to them, joe angus kingfrom virginia as well saying to them we were not for changing the rules but we've changed our mind. too much is at stake and it's a constant, constant discussion and we'll keep going until we succeed. i can't tell you they publicly said anything. you know they haven't. i know they haven't but there is a lot of things we're pushing hard on. i don't want to be, this is an uphill fight but too important to give up on. too important to give up on. >> chuck schumer, thank you very much. thank you for your time. wish we had more time. >> thank you, joy, as soon as we hear something publicly, i'll be -- you'll hear from me. >> all right. that sounds like a plan. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you, bye, bye. >>> don't go anywhere, everyone. tonight's absolute worst is up next and it's a doozy. you don't want to miss it. and . you don't want to miss it. oh yeah, we gotta take off. you downloaded the td ameritrade mobile app? yeah, actually i'm taking one last look at my dashboard before we

they worked on angus king, john tester, others, diane feinstein, mark warner.hey have come to a point where they have gotten this close. so, there has been some momentum and now they're at this point where they have to act. the other point here is that we had this inflation report today and that was terrible news for bbb, the build back better act. in some sense, where do democrats go? there are some other legislation they can go to, but build back better, the president's top priority is in huge trouble, you know. it helped stall it last month. today's report not going to help it. in some ways, they've got to go somewhere and this is something the base has been really affect on. so, you know, in some ways it makes political sense. but if you come up with a loss here, how does that help you? i don't see. it is never good to lose a vote. >> garrett haake, i'm also curious the various ways to deal with the filibuster. it seems like they don't want to try an incremental change. i think they have 50 votes to make it a talking filibuster again. is there any sort of o

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senator angus king, an independent who caucuses with democrats. senator ben sasse, a republican.andsman, a republican -- a democrat. and a republican from wisconsin. in addition we appointed four executive branch managers to bring the information in, the fbi, the deputy director -- secretary of defense and deputy secretary of homeland -- of homeland security. in addition we had six outline -- outside experts, the ceo of companies or government officials, think tank leaders. they were supported by the staff that i led that studied the cybersecurity problem and mccain said you have one year to come back with real solutions which is a fast turnaround rate. in nine months be produced a report that we issued in march, 2020. we put out additional papers looking at additional issues. we spent the last 18 months, fiscal year 2021 and 2022 trying to turn the recommendations of that commission into law and we have been highly successful. we had 82 original recommendations, 50 were legislative and we have accomplished between 60 and 80% of those recommendations. they are either in law or be

senator kamala harris, chris coons, patrick leahy, dianne feinstein, kyrsten -- kirsten jill grand, angus kingark warner, bob casey, hei heinrich, jeanne shaheen, brian schatz, maria cantwell, mazie hirono, tom carper, maggie hassan, tammy duckworth, tim kaine, jack reed, ed markey, debbie stabenow, sheldon whitehouse and bob menendez all asked me to join them in opposing any effort to curtail the existing rights and prerogatives of senators to engage in a full, robust, and extended debate. i will. i'd be glad to join you in that. because i believe this body is a unique body in the world just like you did in 2017. i don't know what's changed. debate is still debate. difficult issues are still difficult issues. and when my democratic colleagues filibustered almost 600 times in six years, it was their right as it has been for two centuries. this is the one place in american government where the voice of the minority is heard, the one place. this is the one place where minority opinions have to come to the forefront. and a discussion about changing the rules of the senate with simple 51 votes and