for more on casey anthony's release this morning, let's bring in criminal defense attorney anne bremner. anne, as we have seen now, casey anthony is released at around 12:10 a.m. eastern time. what is next for her? >> that's a huge question, richard. it could be anything from going underground to going undercover to having plastic surgery to being unrecognizable. you know, to doing a $1 million television interview or more. but we do know she's got this appeal going on right now and that could take years on the lying convictions. and she's also got lawsuits against her. zanny the nanny, that lawsuit. the eck with you saech lawsuit. and the appeal about whether she's going to have to pay for investigative costs. because they were looking for her daughter when her daughter per her lawyer had drowned in a swimming pool 31 days before she reported her missing. there's a lot of legal things going on but there's also the whole open question of what she'll do with respect to her own personal future. >> anne, they evaded the chopper cams from various news organizations. it's unknown where she i

. >> we'll be joined by attorney ann bremner who is following things inside the courtroom. your takeaway, first of all, with the blefity by which jeff ashton made his closing arguments. a lot of people thought it would go on for some time. >> i thought it was brilliant. brevity was the key. you heard his whole theme the whole time, the life she wanted versus the life she had. i could hear him getting to a close with that. that's what he ended with, so beautifully done. i think with the jury having heard the case this long, that's the best way to go, so organized, some compelling. low key in a lot of respects. with the theme that went through out, made sense come pelling with the call to arms and ended in time. >> what i -- as i was watching this, there were points where i was listening to the points being made by mr. ashton and i literally got sick to my stomach, envisioning the scenarios he was laying out. at those times i found myself looking at casey. is that what the jury is doing? do they take their eyes off the attorney? or are they watching casey the entire time as t

we are joined by prosecutor anna sigga and peter johnson and ann bremner.n that george anthony was the accused. what we saw, was for the first time the prosecution basically coming out and saying, george anthony's suicide note was real. this guy is not someone who has committed any of the acts that he's been accused of. do you think the jury is going to buy that? >> in the end they probably will. although there was no evidence for anything they said many what they heard in this trial was, a pattern of deception and a pattern allegedly of not telling the truth. we heard testimony that well, i don't have a mistress. then we heard that perhaps in fact, he did have a mistress. we also saw a suicide note, which i believe was a litigation suicide note, not worthy of belief. so we have on one side a pattern of lies, proven absolute, pathological, by the defendant casey anthony. but we also see, deception after deception, in my view, by critical family witnesses in this case. so the prosecution says, if you believe that casey anthony is in fact a liar, then you mus

. >> joining me live from orlando, attorney anne bremner.ng to you. >> good morning to you. >> so you've been there for this trial. give me your sense of the jury. >> you know, we have a stone-faced jury, that's not unusual in a high-profile case i saw it in the scott peterson case, the michael jackson case. they don't want to give away anything they're think, they know the whole world's watching them, the courtroom's watching them. we don't have a sense. we have a fairly balanced jury in terms of men and women, backgrounds, you know, et cetera been there was one question about a juror picked that said she couldn't judge anybody. but that's not that important, it's been brought out all you need to do is judge the facts, not the person. we'll see what they come up with but they're not giving us any indication right now. >> okay. how about the length of arguments? if some go too long does that irritate or anger the judge or the jury, or is there carte blanche do whatever you need to do considering what's at stake here? >> i was thinking about

. >> joining me outside of the courthouse is anne bremner who worked as a prosecutor and attorney, whatday? it is another indefinite recess, but then turned out to be a short recess and the bickering between the attorneys here. >> it is too long of a trial, tamron, and the thing is that it could be about delay for defense, but fairness for the defense, because these rebuttal witnesses one who could prove cindy anthony is a huge liar, and also george anthony and if he had a affair, and casey anthony, and her web of lies, and cindy anthony saying she searched chloroform on the computer when maybe she didn't have access, because she was at work. so the fuses are getting shorter. >> that is what you wanted to point in, because i wanted to narrow in on the part of cindy anthony who said she was on the computer and researched chloroform which the prosecutors say was used on caylee anthony when she died, but cindy anthony's story may not be true here, which is your point. >> which is that this is huge, tamron, because she was the most important witness on the issue of pre-mmeditation with resp

. >> anne bremner, great to see you today. thanks. >> thanks. >>> a 100-year-old british tabloid "news of the world" is shutting down. all of this out of a growing scandal of hacking potential victims and why james murdoch said it had to be done. sglo >> as a descendent of iowa, i'm a resident of waterloo. >>> and there is a congressman under fire for what he calls bachmann's sex appeal. >>> and jay barbary joins us live ahead of nasa's last shuttle launch. [ male announcer ] this is larry... whose long day starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol arthritis and maybe up to six in a day... or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. happy chopping. >>> welcome back, everybody. a top aide to presidential contender tim pawlenty is apologizing for a comment he made about michele bachmann calling it sex appeal and talking about why she will be difficult to beat next year. ben weber told the "hill" newspaper, she has hometown appeal and ideology appeal and hate to admit, but a little sex appeal, and now, he

. >> and joining me live from orlando, ann bremner. was this testimony during the -- >> there are so many lies in this case. the alleged lies of george's affairs. the lies of casey anthony, but then the lies of cindy anthony. in a lot of ways, shored up the prosecution's case. starting with george and ending with rebut l about cindy. they lied to protect their daughter and this is a case where they know, as george said, he believed she was innocent back then, then a pregnant cause about whether he thinks so now. very strong. >> how about give me an overall grade on the defense and the prosecution. where do you put both categories? >> i give the defense a b in opening, but now, a c, maybe minus, because they didn't prove anything in their opening statement that was important. they have to have evidence. they don't have a burden of proof, but if they say there's an excuse and and accident in the pool, they have to have evidence to prove it. now, the prosecution, i give them an a plus. jeff ashton is wonderful. i think they're five star.

. >> criminal defense attorney anne bremner.y familiar with mary kay letourneau after her many years in jail. thank you. >>> don't expect a family reunion for casey anthony any time soon. the website tmz says casey does not intend visit her parent, at least not right now. the lawyer representing george and cindy anthony tell tmz that casey's attorney made it clear that casey does not want any contact with her parents. cindy attempted to visit her daughter in jail just last week but casey refused that request. so, how will casey anthony try to get on with her life? in just a few minutes we'll take a look back at some other famous acquittals. >> the white house has left the door open at this moment for new meetings as lawmakers look at a new plan to slash millions of dollars from the national debt. the president gave congress not so many hours necessarily to come on back and forward a deal, an idea to battle that debt limit. what is he hearing? >> reporter: robins, crickets, crooking of a frog. not much activity. happening behind-

. >> and let me quickly get anne bremner and meg strickler since they have been kind to stick around here and get their reactions to the verdict. anne, i will start off with you. >> i am looking behind us, because it is a scene back there and balloons and people congregating everywhere. i always thought this could be a case where the defense could have the advantage because it is a reasonable doubt case, and the saying to the jury, do you know how she was killed? do you know how she did it? and that is our judgment basis and jose baez was undersold in the trial, and admirable job in the closing and he is and everyman lawyer and jury lawyer and the jurors came up with the decision that they rendered today. >> and meg, it is interesting speaking of jose baez in the close, because he said they gave you two weeks of testimony that was completely irrelevant, and served one purpose and that is to paint casey anthony as a slut and party girl who lied and it has nothing to do with how caylee died. and strong language, but he obviously knew the direction he was going in with this jury? >> and

. >> let me bring in anne bremner, and meg stricklestrickler, and t me start out with you. we have talked a lot about the case, and let me get to the reaction of the jurors deliberating fewer than 11 hours in the case. >> i earlier predicted on the air that i knew that they would have a verdict today and i was over at the courthouse and watching for them and i saw the pizza delivery man at noon, and both lawyers and judge perry on the case, but this is a case where they have been together for so long and the felony murder or the murder one is very simple, and the verdict form is long but simple which ever way they go, and a short verdict. some say it is guilty when it is a short deliberation, but a lot of of people say it could be not

in an italian jail before even being charged, the date that we're looking at and the date that ann bremnerget on the plane and finally have the barbecue she wants to have with her family in seattle. >> case number two, quickly. back in 2008, authorities raided the west texas ranch. they took all the kids away. they believed the underaged girls were being forced to marry these older men. the group's leader finally going on trial of sex assault charges. warren jeffs allegedly married to these girls. how difficult is it to seat a jury in this town. >> well, listen, they have sent out questionnaires privatety to all prospective jurors. but d

bremners, to her equally terrified mother at home in the north of norway. >> i felt really helpless, really helpless. >> reporter: friday, 5:42 in the afternoon, mary ann got the text message from hell. >> tell the police it is a maniac here. who is shooting. they have to hurry. >> reporter: five minutes later, mommy, tell the police that they must be quick. people are dying here. mother, the police know and they have had many calls. give us a sign of life every five minutes, please. julie, okay. as minutes dragged by, the killer shot the teenagers one by one. julie, i love you, even if i still misbehave from time to time. >> then i really almost broke down because that was so moving, so touching. >> reporter: julie was hiding with friends among the rocks, shaking with fear. 6:15, julie, the police are here. mother, the person shooting is said to be in police uniform. be careful. 6:30, trying to calm her daughter, mother said, should we try to book you on the flight home tomorrow? julie, i have no time to think about that now. >> she said, mom, we are scared. scared. >> reporter: and then the call. it's over. i'm safe. >> it is almost like giving birth to