look at different models, i hope that we have some insights from the public testimony about chat anooga and i want to acknowledge cities like stockholm and sweden as well and supervisor amiano amiano in 2007 really was taking the charge as mayor newsom and the earthlink plan failed but there was a commitment at that time to digital inclusion and i'll have questions as we have this hearing what happened in san francisco why didn't we follow through like chat anooga did dealing with energy out out ages and wisely during a key time in history a 111 million dollars used to develop the smart grid and network and my question is why didn't san francisco follow the similar pattern as the 150 other cities and how cambridge and other cities are looking at that model as well and with digital inclusion i think we need to gather appropriate information annually or even a by a by a regular ized manner and meet the individual needs of many of the communities being left behind and i think the report will show that it's not a surprise that district 6 and district 3 and district 11 seem to have the least

provided through the private sector and it can also stimulate local economic development and chat anooga really used it to bring in in businesses who were dependent on high speed access for their core business and have had some success doing that. there's a lot of things to consider. it's very expensive. the cities that have done it tend to be smaller and many have their own electric utility and had control over that to begin with and the cities that have gone this route have faced extensive litigation and had to take on all of that in the process of constructing their network and it requires the city under taking a new business enterprise if it's operated by the city and as i mentioned, there's there's 150 throughout the country and chat anooga has over sixty thousand customers and the population is around 160 thousand and some people choose to go with the private provider but a sizable portion has gone with the municipal and they do offer 1 gig byte per second high speed access. >> can i ask you can you quantify how how fast 1 gig is? >> i think i believe you can download 25 songs in 2

o highlighted that chat anooga has been challenged legally with lawsuits along the way with certain tech industries that might not be supportive of a municipal fiber network and i know there's those contradictions as well and i appreciate you being here and working with you on ensuring that we have digital inclusion as a part of our plan and strategy for the future. >> if i can i'll say a couple more things. you know, i think that we're at a point in time with connectivity that other utilities were at some point in history and i do believe that pervasive gig a bit speeds to everywhere in this community and country and world doesn't just mean your netflix working faster when the electric grid was expanded it maybe started with powering more light light bulbs but manifested and the capacity and network was significantly increased like the electric refrigerator and i think connectivity will evolve that way and i think pervasive connectivity is going to manifest itself in life changing applications that that we can't even predict today and i think we do need to be comprehensive in our discus

keep up with and we need bigger pipe and we can't be thinking in today's terms and another like chat anooga utah has a ten-city fiber network and costs there are $65 for one gig a bit for residential we can do that and beat that. >> what city? >> in utah ten cities connected together been around for almost a decade called the utopia net. with that i just want to say there was a report in forbes magazine that china has increased by over 6000 gig abytes and that's going into terra byte range and we have to think in forward terms not today's terms i'll end here thank you very much. >> i'm going to call a couple of names. alex from monkey brains and bob was here earlier and kevin from the campaign -- that's the next item. charles barb, scott adams from comcast and eric brooks. >> next speaker? >> good afternoon supervisors and is committee members i'm the cofounder of monkey brains.net and operating in san francisco since 1998 and broadband access since 2008 my company uses a technology that expands fiberoptic connectivity by using wireless networks i have a slide here showing the the line goin