please don't install antennas. president chiu: are there any other members of the public that wish to speak on behalf of the appellant? why don't we go to a presentation from the planning department. >> i am planning department staff and as you know, the item is the appeal of a conditional use authorization for a wireless a antenna at 14th avenue. you're being asked to reconsider the decision that was made by the commission. the presentation was going to cover a thorough review of the project and the primary points raised by the appellant, but after listening to public comment today, i would like to go back my presentation and focus on two key issues. the questions of the loophole and the guidelines, and an issue that i was not planning on addressing at all today, the issue of compliance with fcc guidelines and radiation frequency. it would be a public service to get some of the science behind the approval into the discussion. i have and none of that was sent to the director of public health. they discussed the the

from the antenna installation to the building. it is exactly inside this 150 feet, and we proved, and at&t admitted that it does not comply with the fcc rule for the hebrew academy, -- president chiu: thank you very much. next speaker, please. police stepped up. -- please step up. >> my name is -- and i have lived on 14th avenue for the past 22 years, and i recently, queens -- with my neighbors, both the academy and the church. what i have come to understand is whether these risks are concerns over health are real or perceived. psychologically, it is a very real concern for them, and what we know is that this situation is politically a real concern citywide, and i would like to bring the concern that not only do we need to address our city corner and our neighborhood but that the siding -- citing -- sighting guidelines need to be addressed citywide, and i think you need to address this with constituents and that there needs to be a moratorium put in place until the guidelines are revised and the planning code is revised, and i fee

the perceived risk of the antenna to the church as a major threat. you have also heard there is a risk that people being afraid of this radiation or will simply stop coming, and we don't want that to happen. the church is a really vital part of the san francisco city. people have come to this country seeking religious freedom. they want to worship freely, so we ask that you reconsider the conditional use permit. we hope you'll give it careful consideration and allow the yen has -- antennas to be placed somewhere else. president chiu: next speaker. >> my name is dylan, i live on 14th avenue. my backyard is where i play almost every single day with my cats and chickens. i am worried about what might happen in the long run. i am a kid, i am going to be playing in the backyard for years to come. will this really affect me? in the uno for sure? you can't tell me or guarantee me for sure that these won't harm us years from now. nobody can know for sure. it might be another 10 years before the scientific studies are proven to us. it will be too late for a k

we have another antenna, and i am saddened about the fact but they build an antenna near the school without informing the parents, and at the playground, where a lot of kids go, and i think it is like an open area, so it is very hard to protest something like this, but i think you want to say something more? >> if you would address the board, because we have trouble understanding view. >> that is what i want to save. -- to say. >> i hope it was clear. if it was not, i guess you will ask questions. >> you are requesting data, specific information you were not provided, and on that basis, you are requesting a continuance. is that correct? >> i do not know what that means. >> you would like figuring after you have the opportunity to receive and review the data? >> yes, i think the data is required to continue, or you can revoke the permit right now. that would be fine with me. >> mainly you are seeking an opportunity to get the data, review it, and have my hearing following that opportunity now? >> yes, you have to do that, because i do not think you are willing to revoke the permit. i would r

but what happens to an antenna were you have two sets of the rights being violated now?>> currently they are allowed now to be authorized. when an area is underground, the associated street lights would fall under the jurisdiction of the bureau of light, heat, and power. there are currently no joint agreements. either individuals who want to install these antennas would need to get in an agreement for the contract and installation. if they cannot, there cannot be these antennas set need to be removed. >> i am curious. it seems it brings into question how reasonable if would be if someone were to expand the money to put it on a cold, and you wonder what happens to the investment made in this case. >> typically undergrounding districts takes years. there are the established underground districts, and the property owners would have to identify the properties or stereo -- the properties. there is a schedule for cold removal, so it does take several years. >> thank you. >> is there public comment on this item? c. non, we will move into rebuttal. you have three minutes for reb

we have another antenna, and i am saddened about the fact but they build an antenna near the school withoutinforming the parents, and at the playground, where a lot of kids go, and i think it is like an open area, so it is very hard to protest something like this, but i think you want to say something more? >> if you would address the board, because we have trouble understanding view. >> that is what i want to save. -- to say. >> i hope it was clear. if it was not, i guess you will ask questions. >> you are requesting data

i wanted to comment that there has been that the antenna on our building since 1997. since that time, we have received no complaints from anyone in the neighborhood. after we began discussions with at&t, they sent notices to the entire neighborhood inviting people to come to an informational session. a few people showed up, but everyone in the neighborhood received that notice. after we made our agreement with at&t, who had an informational session. in october, we invited the neighborhood, and i don't think anyone from the church came. i never received complaints from anyone at the church and i would have been happy to meet with them to try to allay their concerns. we went out of our way to remove the antenna in close proximity because the school complained to us. [chime] we saw evidence that this was not -- president chiu: thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name is bill hammet, i am a registered engineer in the state of california. i am a recognized expert in the spill -- in this field. my firm of 20 works for carriers, cities, landlords, our role is simple. wh

all of a sudden i started a false track thinking, we had an antenna problem, glitch in the antenna.imilar to one we experienced earlier in the shift. and that shortly we'd resolve the problem and be back on track to the moon. in the meantime, however, most of the problems have been resolved. those that remain focus on a singer controller by the name of cy. cy has the system you need to stay alive in space. he has power, he's got pressure, he's got electrical, he's got heat, he's got water. basically everything you need to stay alive. none of the data cy is seeing from his standpoint is believable. very quickly it looks like we've lost one of our fuel cells and possibly a second one. cryo tank two, oxygen tank two is reading zero. quantity where previously had been reading 100% quantity, the temperatures instead of being minus 300-so degrees fahrenheit, they're now at a plu plus-17 degrees. i mean, that data doesn't make sense. another tank is starting to decrease in pressure. he's trying to put all these pieces together in the back room. in the meantime a new problem is occurring be

magic antenna. oh, yeah. you sanctimonious-- ( thunder rumbles, car alarm blares ) stupid tossers with their bloody stupid car alarms that only go off--! that's ours, isn't it! ( growls ) ( door opens ) ben: brilliant! how come he gets to go out and play in it? ben, go to sleep. ( car alarm chirps ) ( wood creaking ) ( shouting continues ) mm. ( shouting intensifies ) aw, i don't believe it! it's 20 past 3:00! i haven't slept a wink. well, neither have i. hey, it's not a competition. i didn't say it was. it's just that i've got that important meeting with the head in the morning. i have important things to do, too! well, you haven't got any work to go to. oh, that is-- martin: bitch, shut up! ( thud, shattering ) bloody hell, what was that? i don't know. we can't just do nothing. what if they're asleep? asleep? after all that? do you know, it really would be better if it was you-- yeah, but what if he comes to the door? then it'd be better if it was you, because then you can talk to him man to man. oh, right.

another point is whether the antennas or are desirable or necessary, and i think the appellants lay out a number of strong reasons why we should consider that they are not desirable and not necessary for the neighborhood. a third thing is an issue that we struggle with as a board over health and radiation concerns, but i would just say the depaul's layout important arguments -- let me just say this, the study that was completed by at&t, an engineer, and associates is contested by the appellant, and they raise other issues put forth by a physicist that says that the radiation levels are much higher than that proposed in the report from december 7, 2011, acela as you did a close look at the health concerns raised by the residents, and they say that the fcc pressed roles -- thresholds are exceeded. the last point i will make is that my office has done my best to look at the concerns that parents have, but we have also had meetings with the bureau of jewish -- jewish education, and i hope that you look at the validity of the arguments made by the appellants, and that is for this hearing. th

>> residents are upset about antennas right next to their home. >> they are also concerned about the radiation coming from the poll. greta kreuz life with the story. >> this is not a cell phone tower we are talking about, it is antennas mounted on top of that huge pole. it is just 3 feet from the property line of that house. the homeowners were not able to talk to us. others give us an earful. >> she shows us how the radiation levels jumped as she walks toward the poll. she says the recommended radiation limit is three. >> you have seen it actually go all the way to the end? >> more than 100 she says. neighbors say they replaced a small pole with a 50 foot pole in december. a new at&t antenna design to upgrade self-service. >> the problem is they put it right in somebody's front yard. >> it sticks out like a sore thumb, but it is more than aesthetics. >> i have been getting headaches for about one month. i am waiting for my doctor to see me. >> people fearing -- people fear radiation exposure will make them sick. now, the federal government is in charge. >> we are not about to make a

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under its voter contact -- under a 12 year contract, we will have to pay a lease on the antenna. the cost that i am not aware of is the cost of equipment. really, just no sense on the cost for the monthly description fees. we invested a small amount of money in it this year and that wednesday's budget committee mirror -- meeting, i ask why the san jose and san -- are not opting into the system. they can do it later, but they will have to pay the costs because they are not meeting the deadline. i am sure that they will motte opt in now. after doing some research, i found out that they had very articulated reasons, and in just -- disappointed that there was no public position they had taken and a local reporter here in san francisco stated exactly why the reasons those other cities were not involved. i have a hard time understanding and believing that a number of those bodies could not tell us a budget on wednesday. i am upset about that. and there is or facial time on this issue. someone who will help as a doctor in an emergency. and it will make us consistent with other public sa

under its voter contact -- under a 12 year contract, we will have to pay a lease on the antenna. the cost that i am not aware of is the cost of equipment. really, just no sense on the cost for the monthly description fees. we invested a small amount of money in it this year and that wednesday's budget committee mirror -- meeting, i ask why the san jose and san -- are not opting into the system. they can do it later, but they will have to pay the costs because they are not meeting the

atop his office building, ugly conventional cell phone antennas are disguised as flag poles. >> thater all of this area. >> he's developing so-called smart antennas that can cut through all the competing noise in the radio environment to get your call through. >> we use an array of antennas and some really smart computers, and what they do is, when we transmit, we send the information only to your phone. >> you mean there is-- we will reach the day when each cell phone will be perfect, or as perfect as a landline. >> that's exactly right. [ticking] >> coming up, where is cell phone technology going? >> the optimum telephone is one that i think some day is gonna be embedded behind your ear. it's gonna have an extraordinarily powerful computer running the cell phone. >> that's next, when 60 minutes on cnbc returns. [ticking] [raucous orchestral music] >> what hath marty cooper wrought? let us go for a moment back to the future. >> new york, calling all cars for a preview of tomorrow. >> the cell's precursor, the car telephone, came in right after world war ii. >> a tiny radio transmitt

that is because in our emergency system, there are more antennas are around the city said that you can talk in buildings and that is something that is necessary with the library. as i mentioned last week, we had been approved through the process last year to refresh our 800 mhz system. the system is currently a dinosaur that has been in operation 13 years. the contract was placed 50 years ago. this is an analog system, this is proprietary technology. vendors are not supporting it anymore. you cannot get parts for it. it is time that you replace it. i would dare to say that there would be public safety issues and we would not want our police and firefighters at risk so i believe now go imperative that we replace that system. the new system will be a digital and system. the life of the system would be 2028. i know that this gets very confusing. why do we need two systems? the system is a digital data system at this point. you can shared text and photos, video, graphics over this system. this is for regional communications. we have on nine counties who formed a joint agreement. we have be

the places we can place those antennas, but i want to assure people i do not ever feel unsafe.viously serving a purpose for people who need to that purpose. i do not see people queuing on the sidewalk. the problem is, whether it is a have operated respectfully, and not everybody is happy to hear çthat, but i want to reassure people in really is about providing access and the way the guidelines are written for seven francisco. this is the way we have to do it. various not anything extraordinary today, and i recognize this seems who -- there is not anything extraordinary today, but this is the way it is written. >> this commission house to determine whether or not this application creates an extraordinary circumstance, and given the rules we are considering, the 1,000 foot radius and education facilities not being within that radius, and it does not include kindergarten or day care. there is nothing extraordinary about what we are hearing. i am comfortable with the framework, and with a personal testimony living near five dispensarigsq support, a given asset -- given that what h

later in the hearing, thereççs an opinion for the wireless antenna at 401 14th ave.lavic baptist church of san francisco. the concerns were about radiofrequency radiation, the siding on educational facility and a lack of independent analysis on capacity and coverage as provided by at&t. department staff it now requires independent analysis as part of the applications of metal. while we ask the project sponsor to pursue the analysis, they were unable to do that and pursue the hearing. the department explained this location isç one location -- ad we were finally joined by the department of public health and describe to the publicç how the site would be safe according to science. two supervisors requested the process and the way we review çthese antennas be updated in e future. thecu was up held and supervisor març cast the dissenting vote. ççthere were three introductii wanted to share with you this week. there was a resolution establishing the community advisory committee. this was an update that provides specificity about the various departments roles. an ordin