other feature so i believe from quickly looking at it the planning department wouldn't have any issue with changing the windows to doors. >> so from a process prospective your looking at it for the first time and off-the-cuff giving us our opinion to formalize that you'll have to have it goatee our department. >> again, just changing the windows to doors this is a permit that was not involved with an appeal so long as it's in the code that change itself wouldn't change any process. >> okay. thank you. then we can hear from the gentleman >> thank you. good evening president and members of the board. i do have copies of this the alternatives that would effect the egress from all the members i can submit to victor to be attached to the record >> yes. have i provided a copy to the - >> if you leave me one more. >> to the palate and the department? no, no, no >> this is the egress. >> oh, the egress. is that something that the departments have received copies of >> yes. i also want to briefly mention the additional alternatives those changes have been provided to the appellants is so

any discussion? none. so, colleagues, unless there's any further comment, let's take a roll call vote on supervisor breed's motion. >> supervisor brao*ed? >> aye. >> breed, aye, supervisor campos, aye f, supervisor chiu, chiu, aye. supervisor cohen, aye. supervisor farrell? >> no. >> farrell, no. supervisor kim, aye, supervisor mar, aye. supervisor tang, aye. supervisor wiener, no, supervisor yee, aye, supervisor avalos, aye. there are 9 ayes and two no's. >> the motion is denying both of the appeals are passed and the only thing i will just say colleague, i'm hoping we're not going to see additional appeals of this until supervisor breed's legislation moves forward but of course folks are free to file what they wish. with that, why don't we now go to roll call for introductions, madam clerk. >> yes, mr. president, supervisor breed is first to introduce new items. >> thank you, today i'm introducing an amendment to the tic bypass legislation that the board passed earlier this year and the in the past couple o

so i wanted to bring that here >> interesting. >> any other commissioner comments. so we note on the record the arrival of commissioner lee. >> any public comment on the director's report seeing none, public comment is closed. we don't have to take any action which the next one is police department actions and comments so officer and anyone else please. hello commissioners i'm steve is from central station we spoke about the leads training and i got more formation information so the next abc leads training this is a free training that absence absent will imperative out you only have to sign up. it's on december 10th. and in the future you only have to go to the abc website. i try to encourage the establishments to do the training. it's really helpful. a lot of times we'll have a gut feeling so far as something not being right on thursday someone fired a gun on 440 brood and the shell casing away was found outside the club. part of the conditions is they maintain the surveillance system for at least fourteen days and that night it was not operating. i look at how many

so, any objection, then the motion passes to continue this. let's see. madam clerk, can you call item number 5. >> hear ring to consider appointing one member term ending november 19, 2014 to the bias cal advisory committee, there is one seat and one applicant. >> mr. allen unfortunately, i don't think he's here, was not able to attend today but has reached out to our office to express interest, maybe he reached out to my staff, i'm not too sure if he reached out to me, supervisor cohen, would you like to share? >> sure, i just wanted to thank you, i just wanted to say this is an applicant that i am putting forward and also i just want to highlight a native san franciscan, he's a basketball coach and they have teem pictures this afternoon so we can do one of two things, we could vote the matter and continue it to go forward because i think we should fill the seat as soon as possible, but if not, we can continue the item and mr. allen has agreed to come to our next committee meeting to present on his behalf, but this is again a vacant seat number 10 appoi

him get to where he's at and i know he's going to do big and her better things so please consider him, thanks. >> thank you, any other public comments? seeing none, public comment is now closed. mr. penn, you know, i just met him today and i feel really good about this nomination. he's got so much energy and, you know, his experience on all the different levels he brings in makes him a perfect candidate for the community development slot, so supervisor breed? >> thank you. i just wanted to say a few words. i didn't know mr. penn personally, but i know of the work that he's done at mission hiring hall, oftentimes over the years, it's the go-to place in the western addition in terms of job training and job opportunities and they've been an incredible partner in helping us to get folks employed and also keep them employed and i know mr. penn had a lot to do with that work so i really appreciate and value someone who has that sort of experience on a committee of this nature because of the importance of making sure that the members understand just really the kind of communities that they're working with as well as u

so for the person the one person that we try to make contact with and there was no response we'll not support her at this point for any of the seats not knowing whether she's interested. and so there's not much interest on her part. i want to take a crack at this and my colleagues can rack. so for board number one i would recommend - let me >> i i'm sorry mr. chair. i just wanted to ask a few questions about mervan to the appeal board staff. it helps us to move the process along quicker. you'll all bag logged and need such a help as possible. i was wonder is this someone you've be able to rely on. and help you to get the job done and that this person is reliable >> yes. mr. collin is reliable. we've not had any problems as far as not appearing awhile he's scheduled. he's ggd at lettuce know he's made himself available as needed when we can at last minute notice to cover for other members >> i only ask because i was concerned the fact he doesn't remember how long he's been on the committee. those are really on paper he looks great presentation wise he looks great but that was an alarm for me only because i know the det

so, is there any public comment on item number 9, 11 and 12? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, is there a motion to convene a closed session? >> yes, so moved. a motion to convene a closed session. >> second? with no objection, the motion is moved. members of the public, we will now be convening closed session, if we would ask you to klaoez leave the >> madam clerk, is there anything else on the agenda? >> no, sir. >> if there's nothing else f*ufrt, this meeting is adjourned. thank you very much, colleagues. >> the committee voted to forward items 9, 11 (calling roll). >> mr. chairman, you have a quorum. item 3, prohibition of sound producing items during the meeting. sound producing items are prohibited during the meeting. any person responsible for one going off in the room may be removed from the meeting. please be advised that cell phones set on vibrate do cause microphone interference so the board respectfully requests they be turned off. item 4, approval of the minutes of november 5, 2013 regular meeting. >> all in favor say aye. thank you. >> item 5, communica

any questions? seeing none. thank you very much. next speaker >> hello supervisors and good afternoon. i'm maggie. thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to present to you this afternoon in consideration of having me on this committee. i'm you currently an employee i work in the film office. any time folks come to town to get permits thaim i'm their person. i'm enrolled here in class and people are always talking about you in class. i worked in the mayor's office as a schedule and worked in the outreach program. i did environmental outreach throughout san francisco in our diverse community. prior to working in the film office i volunteered for the harvey milk foundation. i was a lead so i've put on some events in san francisco including our candle light project. i worked with lgbt organizations in san francisco and their leaders in the discussion of renaming san francisco airport. i feel passionate my mom what harvey milk's campaign manager and legislative aid over 35 years. i want to help contribute towards bringing about some awareness of harvey's legacy. i know that still his message is not clear a

. >> i've got one question so the plans you handed to us is there any changes as minute as from anything they've had prior. >> no, because they've previously had copies 80 that shows the changes of the windows. >> so increase no changes. >> don't those plans reflect the changes in the egress. >> well, it removes the need for the second needs of egress. >> the plan is changed. >> i'll let the architect speak to that are. >> the change is a change before we met in october the plans that were submitted to you and the people appealing it's the same plan showing the sliding glass doors it only has a dash line here the numbers indicate that we're less than 2 hundred and 50 feet from the further corner of the top deck. it distributes in the description of the work the removal of window and door when i met with the gentleman i shimmed the windows changes and i understood today joe duffey said he didn't care. that's the only change otherwise we'll leave the door at the top of the landing. it would meet the egress requirements and we'll go for a revision permit to put the doors on which the planni

so, unless there's any discussion? okay, madam clerk has reminded me, we have three appeals today, one was continued from last week which is what we have called and then i started talking about the procedure for the remainder of the appeals. why don't we take that first appeal first related to 273a-29th street, i know we had city staff talking to the appellant talking if they were able to resolve this matter. can we maer from city staff on this matter. one of you please speak. >> john nalan from the city attorney's office. at the conclusion of last week's hearing, the department of public works contacted the appellant and offered to her the deferral process. there is -- and dpw has been in contact with her. there is a check that dpw has to refund the fee at this point and then i'll collect it until the map is ready to be reported. she's not picked up the check yet. >> so, we're waiting for her to make arrangements with dpw to pick up the check. >> okay, so my understanding is that this has been resolved in a way that t

any chemical materials. they're only allowed to use paint. the volunteers must be 15 years of age. so, if they violate any of those criteria, then it's the volunteer organization that's basically not complied with our requirements. so, they have no issue basically with us. in terms of liability just to ensure that we don't have any problems with property owners in terms of painting, we ensure that we get $2 million of liability insurance. that blanketly coffers all of our volunteer program. that is a range to cover my program. iest mate how many volunteers i'm going to have per year and basically buy an insurance policy to cover that as well. in terms of safety i think martin can speak more to the issue of, you know, going into areas where there could be problems. edmonton overall is pretty safe community. we haven't really had any experience with people sort of being there present when we're painting over it. so, i can't really speak to that in terms of issues. but the liability issue is pretty well covered. i have a guide that's available on my website that outlines all of our forms

>> this is an area that can actually make any problem so much worse. there is the dispute that causes you to pull out the books or records to see what they look like about the numbers. whether it's income expenses, contributions would never prurient and then if you look at those books and records and they are a mess and they don't answer the problem, then that they can just make the matter so much worse because not only does it not give you an answer but to get into this other dispute about what should have happened with the money. what should be going on with a profit losses. whenever it happens to be. yes to get those cleaned up and in shape and maintain them on a regular basis. try to reconstruct after the fact is trouble. >> lack of money put a lot of stress on the relationship. tell me a little bit more. >> for example we had won a multimillion-dollar dispute with the partners didn't have a great books and records and the dispute was the partnership needed more money at one of the partners was putting up the shortfall and they got into a huge disp

so thank you. >> thank you. >> and any police comments on this? >> all right. and is there any public comment about this? >> seeing none, i have the public comment closed and the matter is now with the commission. >> commissioner campagnoli? >> what we have heard from southern? >> you should have the police conditions in your folders. at the very end, southern station, and sent these today and they were unable to attend this evening. >> okay. >> and do you see it, and commissioner campagnoli? >> yeah. >> and i need these back, though. >> right there. and all right. >> all right, so, i am happy to take a motion. >> i move to approve, is there a second? >> with the police conditions. >> sorry. move to approve with the police conditions. >> aye. >> seconded by commissioner akers. >> any discussion? do we want at all to limit the hours, i mean that they said three to one is really just three to 6 is when they are setting up. and then, i don't know if anyone has any feelings about after midnight or... >> so 6:00 to 1:00 are the hours. >> yeah. and i think that they

the designation hadn't been heard yet so there are a lot more opportunity for dialog. there's no contract with any service provider. so it's sort of late we received the grant 2012 and we keep getting extensions but recognizing it was a rocky start to the community process we in the office of hope are certainly welcome and feel it's necessary to continue the dialog should this resolution move forward. >> supervisor cowen. >> i wanted to also just to acknowledge this is a face timeframe this is not a cause. it's unfair to say there was no public process because of the face timeline. that's disingenuous. you mentioned my office has been in touch since late of last year that's correct but i have e-mail transitions saying quote we're interested and all the documentation that charley mentioned in order to sponsor in and to introduce this. i'm asking for supporting documents and this is dated in november 6th of 2012. there's very little conversation. the last time i heard about this was when the mayor speak about in january of 2013. i wanted to acknowledge that you yourself invited a site at mother brow

so much. commissioner mendoza and we'll open up for public comment if there are any. >> thank you. so just a couple of thing with regards to the presentation. thank you commissioner murase for sharing that with us. code.org recently did a launch to do an hour of code and it's going to be the week of december 9th. they asked for participation from all of our schools so we are engaging our school district to be part of that and our state superintendant was present and was thinking about how do we bring computer science back in the curriculum as part of a-g and not as part of an elective. the challenge on that is that we don't have teachers that are graduating with their computer science credential because computer science isn't a core subject any longer. so there is a shortage of teachers being able to teach that. this morning, we spent quite a bit of time with sf to talk about what are some of the connections that we can make with tech companies. there is an organization called black girls code who we are going to be engaging in the middle school initiative and they want to start wit

in the record by commissioner tom (calling names) the vicinity is 3 to one for them to impose any actions so absent to any motion this permit is up told me e held as is. >> i don't think anybody wants that. i would make another motion to continue it for one week and in the interest of efficiency and justice and getting a proper permit here that everyone can agree on. >> so we have a motion to continue this matter one week to november 20th. and no additional briefing is allowed nothing? on that motion (calling names) thank you. the vote is 4 to zero this matter is continued one week to november 20th >> thank you. thank you >> commissioners then i will call 7 a, b, c, and d. all four of them are filed by a group against tang and they're related to four alteration permits. this is for the property on montgomery street on the partners llc to an alteration repair around doors and windowsills. this is for the property at 6568 joebz street protesting the issuance on september 12th to la violinists llc. to the bedroom replacement and install new forced air at a level down with a minimum of the heigh

>>his will help them bause they don't hav food, water, shelter, anying so. hopefully everhing we can give them canelp them out. >> the relief drive starts at 11:00 andill contie through thursday t foo and supplies will be sent to the philippine red crs. >> they need all the help they can get. unbelievable watching t family and children lk for clean water. >> 4:38. much sunnier andicer forecast. good morng. >> goo morning t you at home. happy tuesday. some people have an abbreviat work week f. you are one of those people we're loong pretty goo in the uer 50s. north bay in san francisco. you can see the sth bay, peninsula a east bay mostly cloudy forhe timing soake it to the radar, show you what we're working with. you can see n a little bit of light activity nearpetaluma. this is going to tensify. u want to keep that in mind for the morng driv we're not going to see a l of this activity to the south of e golden gate bridge. all ofhis moisture is lifting to theorth and will contue to be the case as we head throughout the mning hours, then by aut lch time we're

so any other comments. okay. so staff thank you, very much. you've weighed the six on what qualified >> commissioners that places you on item 8 the prejudice report and informational presentation. >> good afternoon. commissioners just a couple of introductory remarks. i wanted to let you know over the past couple of years the department has provided technical help on the prestige program and we really appreciated being part of the discussions. as a result of those discussions which i'm sure sarah will tell you about the countless meetings they you published a report this july which you all had access to and requested a formal hearing to discuss this and we're here to listen and hopefully, we'll move some of them forward and report back to you in the future how we've been to do the proposals. so with that, i'll let my colleagues lead you throw their recommendations in the spur report >> good afternoon. commissioners it's a real pleasure to see you here today. i've got several copies of the report for you in case you don't have you're with you.

so we'll resume item l thank you for your patience. you read us the recommendation there are no speakers signed up for the appointments. any board members wish to speak >> yes. one the criteria was a standard so i asked if anyone was a parent and her kids a are uc graduates and her grandchildren are in that program. thank you. any other questions >> i'm pleased to see patrick with city build on this committee and i usually cut might have off. i'm glad your building this advisory board. so thank you >> any other comments. seeing none. all right. roll call, please >> (calling names) 9 i's. >> thank you, we're going to move right long to item m. we have two presentations this evening. the first is update on behavorial response to inteejs. >> take it away mr. grave in. mr., true it will be starting excuse me. >> good evening president norton and superintendent and exceptionally aging less than and cooper logan. i want to direct your attention to this process report. as we begin i have a few introduce comments i'm the superintendent from the department. thank you for the opportunity for sharing this progress report. i said to s

is foreign ministry mr lee always great to have you with us today so you did not believe netanyahu wants peace with the palestinians any peace even with concessions so basically all speculations regarding talks and solutions involving this government is just hot air is that right. well i think that the neo would like to have peace but he's terms. so i think early acceptable to the palestinians so there would be nice moves its meaning over the years everybody wants peace the question is will tell you ready to sacrifice in order to achieve peace and very little people many people in israel and maybe also in palestine are ready to sacrifice enough in order to achieve. it so you personally you don't expect anything to happen any steps further while netanyahu is in charge. i don't accept to have a final solution what we used to call peace i don't accept these do it but i think everybody's busy know in what is called plan b. how can we arrange the talks to fail in an agreement many look to fail in a way that will bring violence or a lot of palestinians a kit international activity especially in the un but to fail in an aggri

and so it is my understanding that while the owners have issued another round of eviction notices i am not aware that there will be any formal action following up on that. certainly before we have the permit appeals board meeting in the middle of december. so, essentially we remain open to the owners coming in to meet with us and we keep putting that message out, but, at least, in recent weeks, none of us has heard anything from the owners. >> sorry, bill, on the december dates and the board of permit appeals and the representation from the department will be from who do you think on that? >> i don't know, is it joe? >> one of our senior inspecters is usually at the board of permit and appeals. i am sure that we will be represented there. >> yeah. and so he will be up to speed or she will be up to speed? >> of course. >> so they are appealing the suspension of the permit? >> yes. >> okay. >> next item? >> is there any public comment on item 5? >> seeing none, item 6? discussion and possible action regarding proposed revisions to administrative bulletins ab-032, site permit processing and ab-084, guidelines for the str

i don't see any. >> same house, same call? . yep >> so our last couple of agenda item commissioners, comments or questions commissioner hyde. >> so i just wanted to say that today audrey and i did our follow-up at club malibu and they're definitely working on things and we'll see results with that. i think we're aisle problems and mr. dick is really good for them and it will be much better. saturday night because we've been depreciating complaints from neighborhood from 1015 over the halloween that weekend i went by at the 11, 12 and 2 and watched how they dispersed the crowd. they do a really good job and the problems were purely halloween. i just wanted to say i did that on saturday night. and i think a that's it. >> great commissioner joseph. >> processed for submissions for the main stage pride is now open. you know a great local band or someone that might want to submit and possibly be chosen to perform at the san francisco provide the date is sunday, saturday june 28th and sunday june 29th. great any other comments or questions from

listin ian's any piece even with concessions so basically all speculations regarding talks and solutions involving this government is just hot air is that right. good i think that the neo would like to have peace but all he's terms and he's terms i think early acceptable to the palestinians so they would be nice most its meaning over the years everybody wants peace the question is would tell you ready to sacrifice in order to achieve peace and very little people look many people in israel and maybe also in palestine are ready to sacrifice enough in order to achieve. it so you personally you don't expect anything to happen any steps further while netanyahu aides in charge. i don't accept to have a final solution what we used to call peace i don't accept this do it but i think everybody's busy know what is called plan b. how can we arrange the talks to fail in an agreement many look to fail in a way that will bring violence or a lot of palestinian international activity especially the un but to fail in an aggrieved way that the palestinians will get some think. everybody will be able to sa

all right, so let's... >> any other comments? >> so we are speaking with a motion to continue until we get an opinion from the city attorney? >> which we hope will be november 5th. >> it will be definitely november 5th. >> okay. >> so commissioner akers? >> aye. >> to continue? >> aye. >> commissioner hyde. >> aye. >> commissioner joseph. >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> no. >> commissioner campagnoli? >> aye. >> president tan? >> aye. >> and all right, so the motion passes, it will be continued. and our staff will notify you continuing means that we will have to wait until we get this opinion until we can actually vote on the actual permit. >> okay, let's move on. >> okay. >> so the next item on the agenda, is sean manchester doing business as project one gallery at 251 rhode island looking for a place of entertainment. permit. >> as you said, this project one gallery has been operating at this location since 2008. and he is going to feature in-house bookings. and also to pursue, corporate events. and southern station, has met wit

jimmy was in any kind of spying activities is taking place on its own people. so all of these is trying what we going to see over the coming few of our lives is at peace being discussed in parliament even though only in a speech i get to the balsam and questions the cost of just how involved germany was thinking more about what's fine with going on. counties piece of one of the line from a burning piece of thank you very much and the finance. hyundai is probing to then ditched a topping of uncle michael's fine dining is seeking assistance of atlas nodded and joan gets such an investigative journalist and human alston last month pass his campaign chairman and pee there's one other thing that's being discussed is the question of how to get input from the person who actually knows the most about the documents right now. all of the doctors are being kind of red in and reported on by journalists who of course you know are doing their best to do in the best job they can but these are complicated things and that he would make sense to get expertise the main from the pres

yes, ma'am. >>> (inaudible). >> so how small can a fence be? a fence can be any height. there is no required fence. so these fences in our backyard are not required by the city so there is no minimum requirement. let's move on. we have retaining walls and that is a big interesting topic. here is another, once again, gates or doors. gates have to meet the door requirements. it's interesting because the building code chapter 10 says even if the door is not a required door, if you're putting it in for your own convenience, nonrequired doors shall meet the door requirements. but you don't have to have a fence between your property. you don't. >> there are a few blocks in the city i where there is no open park. people like to preserve their property and their asset and they don't like other people's dogs on their property for many reasons. the people who do it, there are few that are very nice and workout fine. let's go along to retaining balls. -- walls. this is down here where the thick bakery is that's going to be closing. what is it, wonder, hostess? potrero hill. the city

and so that also is to us that we want to be as efficient as possible with this and you know, at any point in time, anybody could make a complaint and we are going to give it the good faith effort because not even one does not ask all of these questions and so the thing there is that i am also getting a lot of 311 cases and relays to us and we have to take the information that they have gotten and put that in the system and it is not a live feed, and again, this would, and that would limit that so that we could give the 311 people the better information as well as to the type of complaint that we are taking in. >> so the 311 will take the complaint and no, like call back and then you just have to follow up on it without them getting anything. >> unfortunately the information that they have needs to be updated and that was kind of the policy of the previous director. where right now, what we would need to do is meet with them again and give them more updated information and it is only as good as what we tell them and so from that standpoint what is happening right now, as you get furth