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john kerry and the arab league meet on syria and say that bashar al-assad has passed a global red linethe opposition leader is contesting the results of the male oral election in moscow. and mazda takes a step closer to its fourth formula one title. >> syrian president bashar al- assad has told the american media there is no evidence he used chemical weapons against his own people. this comes as u.s. secretary of state john kerry continues a whirlwind tour to drum up international some work for military intervention in syria. international leaders are not the only ones who need convincing. many americans are skeptical as well. >> antiwar protesters demand the u.s. stay out of the conflict in syria. demonstrations like this one are meant to send a clear message to the obama administration and the world that there is broad opposition to military intervention. >> i have family living there. they worry about what is going to happen in syria. >> most protests only to a few hundred people but opinion polls show that they represent a majority of americans. shortly before the decisive vote in

secretary of state john kerry arab league agree that syria crossed the red line. >> healthcare is moving from hospitals into homes. >> good to have you with us. the obama administration is pushing ahead with an attack against syria. meanwhile a media war is well under way at home and abroad. hitting in his first interview, assad said u.s. will take responsibility for the attack. he expressed concern that any attack would degrade his military and tip the balance for the conflict. but secretary of state john kerry who is trying to rally supports among allies in europe say it is a moral imperative. >> it is clear that if we don't take action the message to hezbollah, iran, no one will care that they broke a 100-year-old standard and used weapons that were banned by 199 nations. >> let's go to washington. >> we'll see what plays out over the next few days. making the rounds of the morning shows and this will continue in a series of media appearances, briefing, all aimed at turning the tied of congress and winning american public opinion for the strike against syria. we need to stop now and w

secretary of state john kerry arab league agree that syria crossed the red line. >> healthcare is moving from hospitals into homes. >> good to have you with us. the obama administration is

arab leaders. >> assad's deplorable use of chemical weapons, which we know killed hundreds of innocent people including 426 children on this occasion, this one occasion, this crosses an international, global red line. >> kerry was referring to last month's chemical weapons attack in the suburb of damascus. he earlier met with arab league foreign ministers. kerry said no reaction would be like sending a signal permitting the government of syrian president bashar al assad, the iranians, north koreans, and all terrorists to use chemical weapons. >>> arab league members are divided over military action against syria. khalid al atia attended the conference. he said that arab nations will soon issue their own statements on the situation in syria. earlier, kerry met with his counterparts from europe. eu foreign ministers are urging caution. they say attacks should not take place before u.n. inspectors release their report on the use of chemical weapons in syria. some eu officials are supporting kerry's push for a military strike in retaliation. >> the international community cannot remain idle. a clear and strong response is crucial to make clear that such crimes are unacceptable and that there can be no

secretary of state john kerry and arab foreign ministers agree that syria has used chemical weapons crossing a global red lines> from hospitals to homes. >>> from prime ministers to mayors voters around the world have been going to the polls. >> good to have you with us. the obama administration is on a

arab world. but having set a red line the word of the president of the united states has to mean something. we have to show the syrians and iranians that actions have consequences. bill: i want to stay on the comments the president made about the evidence. it's about as much as he has said so far publicly. intercepts, chain of command he believes they have. talk about public sourcing. the testing of sarin gas. he said rockets went from areas where assad controlled. in area where rebels controlled. is that enough to condense those on the fence in congress? >> it's enough for me. i red jim clapper's 4-page white paper. it's a remarkable document. it leans forward in essentially exposing some intelligence sources and method. when you put the word in there that we intercepted communications people with my background begin to hyperventilate. this is a very powerful case. if people come out of these closed hearings today saying the intelligence is inconclusive, they are just trying to avoid the decision. this is a a jack nicholson moment. the truth, you can't stand the truth. the truth is he used

red line - it crosses it. >> u.s. secretary kerry looks for arab support to bomb syria. president bashar al-assad warns u.s.-led strikes will change the course of the war. >> hello, i'm in london with the main stories from europe - including the current mayor in the lead to win another term. the opposition cries foul. >> germany's chancellor angela merkel starts her fight to be elected for a third time. >> i'm andy richardson with the sport. wrestling takes down rivals to win back olympic status for the 2020 games. >> as john kerry has been looking for support from the arab world for military action on syria, bashar al-assad has defended himself to an american television network. he told cbs an attack on his country by international forces will degrade his military and tip the balance of the conflict and denied involvement in an apparent chemical attack on civilians, he said it was inconclusive that an attack happened. >> america's top diplomat came to paris to strengthen french support for a strike on syria. he came to seek help from members of the arab league. >> there's no solution. united states is seek

secretary of state john kerry and arab foreign ministers agree that syria has used chemical weapons crossing a global red lines. >>> from hospitals to homes. >>> from prime ministers to mayors voters around the world have been going to the polls. >> good to have you with us. the obama administration is on a media offense itch making the case for a military strike against syria. but if and how such an attack will take shape is still unclear. syrian president bashar al-assad is speaking out. in his first interview with a u.s. network in over two years, he told charlie rose his country wasn't responsible for the chemical attack on august 21st and he expressed concern that any attack would degrade his military and tip the balance of the conflict. paul beban has more on the white house campaign to hold syria accountable and please be aware that some may consider the images disturbing. >> these graphic videos were exhibit a as white house chief of staph dennis mcdunough made the round of talk shows. confirmed by the u.s. intelligence community are further evidence of syria's use of chemical weapons. mcdunough made t

arab spring in 2009. he went off prompter and issued his red line statement that did nothing to build an international coalitionmestic political support base for action. real leaders are supposed to ask, what if, and if then? but he was too busy campaigning and covering up for the ben gazi terror attack. and this time last week was handing out lists for tomahawk strikes and talking about a quick, limited no boots on the ground, to back up the red line comment. then friday, the brits bowed out and the french couldn't deliver anything bye croissants so our lead from behind leader had a panic attack. his announcement on saturday and i was here at the bureau when that happened. it was a blatant example of a total failure, a cop-out, if you will, and throws the onus out of a committee of 535 people in congress to come up with not just approval, but a strategy because he doesn't have one yet, that's the problem. stuart: as of now it doesn't look like he's got the votes in congress to go ahead and do this strike. if that were the case, if it were no strike, what happens to us militarily? presumably assad does somethin

red line? it wasn't a red line? i think we need clarity. i want to know where the 188 countries are that signed the agreement, the u.n., the arab league and nato demanding that we come to the table on one side and mr. assad on the other side. i implore you guys, and the administration to find a diplomatic solution, because all i've heard is military intervention. i know you guys have talked about diplomatic solutions, but the clout of the united states and we supply the majority of the foreign aid around the world, that we need to bring people and demand people come to the table. this is a moment in time in the history where we, america, can lead a new direction, in a new direction, a direction where we can bring together a coalition of countries that the other 188 that signed the agreement and negotiate a diplomatic solution, it's a time for a new direction in our foreign policy, especially in the middle east, and we can do if with diplomacy and not guns and bombs. senator kerry, you said yesterday you could not guarantee that u.s. troops would not be on the ground. >> no, i did guarantee they wouldn't be, and -- >> i've got the transcripts h

red line ready to burst. our red line resolve is not to sacrifice israel for arab support.ion in place of america's. in the end americans will stand for america, whatever decision is made. the errors of iraq prove that. but we can only hope that a president who knows americans will sacrifice their lives to preserve his reputation decides to sacrifice just a little bit of his reputation to preserve the lives of americans to fight another day. if necessary, avenge the real red lines of a perilous middle east. let's think hard whether the president's first mistake will be solved by the president's second and who will pay most dearly for it. brian? >> brian: thanks. well done, peter. ten minutes before the bottom of the hour. senator mccain facing serious backlash about his stance on syria. >> i just said at the beginning of my remarks, sir, that we will respect everyone's view. >> brian: wow. we'll bring you inside his firey town hall in arizona. >>> he has never told anyone before, if you promise to keep it a secret, we will tell you our secret. i told you the promise. >> i w

arab, that would be publicly supportive of this action. it's important that this be viewed not as just an american effort to keep a red line which the world has drawn against chemical weapons intact, r. but that in fact it is an international effort and not every country may join us. but provided there are a number of countries that do, it will send the same signal. >> back to the army rebels we have had this conversation before. in fact last time we talked about red lines i think the president said he would do it. if it hasn't happened, why not? and what certainty do you have it will happen this time? >> because i heard some things this morning that reassured me that it's going to happen, that they now have a greater comfort level with certain parts of the opposition, and so that we can make sure to the extent that is humanly possible that the weapons do not fall into the wrong hands, because there are parts of the opposition to assad that are not people that we want to provide weapons to because they could use them for the wrong purpose. a very complex situation. the free syrian army is led by a person who we know is a moderate, that we

red line, where is the world on this? we know where france is. we now know where england is. where is the rest of the arab world?> the arab league made an incredibly strong statement staying that assad had to be punished for using chemical weapons. for the arab league, that was an extraordinary statement. >> in terms of actual cooperation. >> i think we're going to get a lot of cooperation from saudi arabia, turkey, jordan. some will be public, some will be under the table. but i don't think this is about the president's red line. this is a weapon of mass destruction, like nuclear weapons. we have iran there. we're telling iran they can't have weapons of mass destruction. this is the ability of a government to wipe out tens of thousands of people. >> so you think if the united states does not act on this use of a weapon of mass destruction, it makes israel feel like, are you going to have israel's back? it's not just obama's credibility, it's the united states' credibility? >> absolutely. >> i accept the point, but it may be about all those red lines. but it's also about the president's red line. he is the one t

red line. he has the plan and he should provide the funding. it is embarrassing for america to go around with a tin cup to area rab states and -- to arab states ands? it started in the gulf where we went around looking for help. we do a war, we should pay for it. >> i will tell you how it does get costly. that's if these pin prick strikes like drawing in turkey and saudi arabia and that's the nightmare scenario. i don't think a few billion dollars to carry this out is very costly. we don't know how other parties will react to this. if it escalates and oil prices go up, then we have a global economy that is fragile four years after a financial crisis and it could become a problem. >> stay tuned to see how this potential action is a potential problem for cable stations. >>> finally tonight, president obama is obviously having trouble gathering support from republicans, democrats and international allies when it comes to attacking syria. it is a tough sales job. and if it is as limited as talked about, one host says it could also be it up for cable stations as well. >> instead our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope. our cap

arab league, the european union. i cannot understand how we can assume because the president has drawn a red line, that we have to commitand i never, in fact ever heard of a limited war, whatever that means, but to chastise and to let an evil man know that we're dissatisfied, i don't really think war-like message is the way to go. this is international. bring together international people. those in the community. and let's try to work out something. they're not going to be fighting themselves. no one in their family will be fighting and we have been allowing president after president to put us in these situations, and i i thank president obama for following through on his commitment as a senator, you just don't go to war without congressional consent. >> thank you very much, congressman charlie rangle and representative randy forbes of virginia. thank you both. >> thank you. >> as the white house waits for word from congress, secretary john kerry presents new evidence the united states says that it now has proof that syria used sarin gas on its people, making the case for a striker stronger by the day. catherine herridg

but all of the arab leaders here today did condemn assad's use of chemical weapons, universally, they said that it was assad and they condemned it as crossing an international red line, kerry picked up a lot of friends here in france by doing an entire speech about assad, condemning assad in french to the french people. and in flawless french, at that. david? >> andrea mitchell, thank you very much in paris traveling with the secretary of state. our roundtable is here. jane harman, chuck todd, newt gingrich, david axelrod, welcome to all of you. the question for all of you, the president's got it all cut out for him now, tuesday night. he's got to try to change the trajectory of this, chuck todd, and convince the public and congress to act. how does he do it? >> it was amazing that you have a northeastern moderate republican, peter king, a southern conservative republican just now in mccaul, a liberal to moderate centrist democrat from orange county, california, and all in some ways beating up the president, even the yes vote for him wasn't exactly a show of confidence on that. it looks -- what's interesting here is the white house is doing this full-court press eve

arab league have described it? >> yes. what's absolutely terrible is that we realize that declaring the use of chemical weapons was a red linectually extremely risky and we've been discussing, actually -- we've been debating this around for almost two years now and we have come to the point when the russians are still contesting the use of chemical weapons in syria. also because themselves, they're stereotypically against it. the old powers now seem to be completely incapable of controlling the way the stakeholders in syria are wagging war. and this means that in the end of the diplomatic horizon is not very clear and the final solution would involve russia and iran. the american discourse and stance, presently the american leadership says that during this intervention will be a very important way to also deter iran from going further in their own nuclear program, but i'm very much unsure that they will manage to scare the iranians away from trying to play their leadership in the middle east in the next decade. >> thanks for that. dorothee schmid. we're in beirut gathering the latest sentiment from the middle east. ayman. >>

red line about friendship in a kind of way. you have a situation going to strategy in which every american ally in the region turkey, jordan, united arabmirates, saushg and israel, they don't know what the bashar al assad is doing precisely. they don't know how friendly they are. they don't know if they have their backing. a great deal of confusion and so i think one of the things that the obama administration has to do is reassure its friends. it doesn't mean we've abandoned you. >> we tend to focus because we're in america and this is an american show man we do but my own feeling is much are important is what they do, okay. and that, you know, we didn't have a problem worrying about the transition of south africa because there was a nelson mandela there. about 30,000 young arabs and must lips have come from all over the arab world all over the muslim world to fight with the jihadists. we know that. how many have come to fight for a multisectarian, multi-party that empowers women and has education. the middle east only puts a smile on your face when it starts with them. we can emly fie that but if the underlying thing is completely fr

arab league members and he says he's picking up momentum. he got them to unanimously endorse a condemnation of assad for using chemical weapons, as being deplorable crossing of an internationally recognized red line. but they refuse to endorse military use of force. the u.s. air strikes that have been proposed. and kerry says that the saudis are supporting air strikes, but the saudis have not said that publicly. the only public endorsement for military action has come pr the french. now the french say they want to go back to the u.n. security council. although they know full well the russians will veto it. there's a lot of public opinion against the use of force as there is back in the states. kerry is now on to london. we know that the british will not be part of a military coalition. that has already been defeated in parliament. he's cutting short his trip heading back to the united states to lobby congress. the white house believes kerry's very effective, especially with the senate where he served for almost three decades. perhaps also he can try to use his persuasion with the house. craig? >> andrea mitchell there for us in paris. andrea, thank you so much. let's get straight to the sunday br

arab people. it's not the russians. it's not the chinese. but the world has to stand up to them. that means obama has to save face because he drew a red line. >> do you think if he did not make the red line statement we would even be debating this today? >> that's quite possible. politicians are naive. they thick they don't follow through -- they're very insecure people, and i think lack of security in making a decision is the biggest problem with politicians, and right now those in the middle don't have the sense of security and understanding of why they're on the right side. they believe that you have to listen to the propaganda, then they weigh it, what it something happens and i'll be blamed for and it they're insecures and obama was insecure, made that statement sounding like a tough guy, and then republicans made it partisan and said you drew a line, and the mccainites and slipped graham love this stuff. they have been screaming for war for two years. >> what got them thinking it would not be an in and out, nonregime change move. this would do something to incapacitate the regime. i'm paraphrase. that's a little further than the pres

importantly he said that all of the arab league members here, melissa, all of them condemned the use of chemical weapons as deplorable and crossing an international and global red lineve endorsed airstrikes. he said that but the saudis do not. they did not appear on camera. he's had no public pledges of support, privately several have been arming the opposition. the only country that has probably endorsed military strikes by the united states are, of course, the french. they are facing, though they negative public opinion just as the public opinion has been negative back in the states. now the president in the last 48 hours said he wants a u.n. report from the u.n. inspectors on the chemical weapons before the u.s. acts. now they want a security council resolution or at least for u.s. to go back to the security council, russia has vetoed anything and push for another action by the security council. this would be presumably to show the last best effort similar to what happened a decade ago with iraq. this is what they will not countenance, kerry said i'll listen to you, i'll relay to obama, not clear whether they will go back to the u.n. >> i'm wondering in that push

paris kerry said all the arab ministers that met with him here today all condemned assad's deplorable use of chemical weapons and all said it cross aid international and global red line. that said, he didn't get any public endorsements from military action, although the gunneries have been arming the opposition and kerry said that privately, the saudis have endorsed military air stroox. they have not said that publicly. the only public public endorsement he's had for uls air strikes is from the french. until, the french have gone soft on this. not on air strikes but on the timing. french president has said that he believes that they should wait for the u.n. weapons' inspector to come back with their report on the chemical attack but now the french indicate they want the u.s. to wait and go back to the u.n. and try again to seek a u.n. security council resolution even though they know it's few until because russia will veto it again but that will cause more delay. kerry, being a diplomat, said he'll take the message back to president obama but it's unlikely unless they lose in congress they would want to entertain that kind of lengthy delay. kerry will meet briefly in

red lines. and how to we do that in a sense at this stage of the game, given what clearly seems to me has been an impact in the arab world, not a positive impact of what has happened. i came back two weeks ago and i was astonished at how completely upset they were about the attitude of the united states and the behavior of the united states. but can the united states do in terms of public opinion here and in terms of what we can do militarily? i would in some way or another give enough credibility to the fact that we will act or react to what we come to the conclusion is going on in iran, that persuades them to come to a different conclusion that it seems to me that they are going to now. >> first, i accept that we are where we are in terms of perceptions, but i would, as someone who is doing a new book that also involves a fair amount of looking at america's historical posture in the middle east, i am struck by the fact that this moment is not unique. it is interesting at one point after the coup in libya in 1969, kissinger in his memoirs remarked at one point that every single one of our friends in the middle eas

arab league. there is nobody but us. and people would say that the president has drawn a red line.to war is going to war. in this particular case, ever since world war ii, since we have been going to war, we have been going to war with other people's kids. i think it's an easy decision for us to sit back and in the congress and say, support the president. we don't want to embarrass him. but not embarrass him may save lives. it hasn't been that long ago that going into iraq was to just keep the world peace from gases and weapons of mass destruction. 20,000 americans were either killed or wounded after ten years and they are still in afghanistan. >> but you mentioned a moral responsibility. do you believe that the united states has a responsibility to protect on humanitarian grounds? we have those terrible pictures that came out from that chemical attack a few weeks ago and whether or not we have allies in that effort, do you believe we have that responsibility? >> i guess i'm a little different from most congressmen. i see misery, pain, gunshot, kil killings, starvation and people j

red lines. and how to we do that in a sense at this stage of the game, given what clearly seems to me has been an impact in the araborld, not a positive impact of what has happened. i came back two weeks ago and i was astonished at how completely upset they were about the attitude of the united states and the behavior of the united states. but can the united states do in terms of public opinion here and in terms of what we can do militarily? i would in some way or another give enough credibility to the fact that we will act or react to what we come to the onclusion is going on in iran, that persuades them to come to a different conclusion that it seems to me that they are going to now. >> first, i accept that we are where we are in terms of perceptions, but i would, as omeone who is doing a new book that also involves a fair amount of looking at america's historical posture in the middle east, i am struck by the fact that this moment is not unique. it is interesting at one point after the coup in libya in 1969, kissinger in his memoirs remarked at one point that every single one of our friends in the middle east, a

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