we're now joined by ari denique us a research fellow at blue print for free speech and a fellow whistleblower. ari, we will get to your story in the 2nd half of the show. but 1st, what's your take on the lawsuit that this man and his former colleagues are claiming or victims of forced labor, human trafficking and union busting. this is soaking off, but you have to see the big picture in south africa. you know, i am, we have an even distribution of wealth and you have nearly 50000000 off africans living in south africa. and you have a few millions of non africans. and sir, however you have a like i said, uneven distribution of wealth. so 90 percent of a wealth goes towards whites and on africans. that's a recipe for disaster. now in recent years, whistleblowers politicians and critics have accused facebook of a slew of things from facilitating drug in human trafficking, allowing extremist groups to coordinate on line fueling conspiracy theories and misinformation and promoting even eating disorders. now facebook denies many of these allegations are they say they're issues that are more complic

now we're rejoined by our guest, ari denique. his. he's a research fellow at blue print for free speech r e. tell us about your case. what did you do that made you blow the whistle? saint john? well in 2001. ah, it was invited to join 3rd reserve police force. now to me that was a great opportunity since i come from a family of 4 use officers. i mean, my brother was a police officer. my uncle might be causing so everybody was of will yourself. so now i was the geek of the family. i was think there was a computers, but in south africa that the what you and your eyes and i joined the force now. it 2004. i was, i witnessed a, the 1st torture of the unit and it was horrific. it was terrible. i mean, i grew up in greece, up until 17, in the democratic country. and you know, docile to well be brought up so. so when a soul in an african suspect, he was a suspect of stunning laptops being stripped naked bass into a chair, and then police officers putting a bag over his head and suffocate him. you know, that was at any point for me. so what i

now we're rejoined by our guest, ari denique. his. he's a research fellow at blue print for free speech, r e. tell us about your case. what did you do that made you blow the whistle? saint john? well, in 2001. ah, it was invited to join 3rd reserve police force. now to me that was a great opportunity. since i come from a family of 4 use officers. i mean, my brother was a police officer, my uncle, my causing so everybody was a will use officer. now i was the giggles of family. i was think there was a computers. but in south africa that, that what you and your ice and i joined the force now in 2004 i was, i witnessed a, the 1st torture of the units and it was horrific. it was terrible. i mean, i grew up in greece, up until 17, in the democratic country, and you know, docile to well be brought up some. so when a, so a and african suspect he was a suspect of stone and laptops, been stripped naked bass into a chair, and then police officers putting a bug over his head and suffocate him. you know, that was at any point for me. so what i did

we are now joined by our e. denique us search cello at blue print for free speech and a fellow whistleblower. ari, we will get to your story in the 2nd half of this show. but 1st, what's your take on the lawsuit that this man and his former colleagues are claiming or victims of forced labor, human trafficking and union busting. this is soaking off, but you have to see the big picture in south africa. you know, we haven't even distribution of wealth and you have nearly 50000000 of africans living in south africa. and you have a few millions of non africans. and sir, however you have a like i said, the uneven distribution of wealth. so 90 percent of the wealth goes towards whites and, and africans. that's a recipe for disaster. now in recent years, whistleblowers politicians and critics have accused facebook of a slew of things from facilitating drug and human trafficking, allowing extremist groups to coordinate on line fueling conspiracy theories and misinformation and promoting even eating disorders. now facebook denies many of these allegations are they say they're issues that are more complicat