what it's like to live as black people. we don't really see that. >> were you ever intimidated, trying to get more out of their character than they were given. >> we -- not with the rest of the actors, the actors are the actors. oprah had not acted in quite awhile, and she had become oprah since then. and we got to woshlging and she was as a rule herbal nesvulnera nervous. >> everything you have is because of that butler. >> outside of the movie, what inspires you and gets you to a point where you want to create a project? >> i can't articulate it. it is very out of body and i know that i have to do it. it's like giving birth. i know when it's time to do it. and like with precious, i knew that -- i knew that it was important, it was an important story to tell. and i knew there would be enormous controversy around it. >> is it something that you get criticism from outside of the community, like fans. >> you made a comment a few days ago about aids, you said you were at an aids clinic, and you saw so many black women there yo

us as black people, we had our own national anthem, and then wanted south africa to reconcile as a nation, he pleaded for the conclusion for the national anthem of white minority regime anthem that stemmed from south africa. so this where to send singularly africa, at the end of the event nelson mandela said, i had you singing the national anthem, but you didn't sing it right. as i was moving from the hotel room where i been stayed overnight and coming this way, i saw another poster, university of san francisco with the words change the world from here. i immediately thought that with your contributions, the movement was very strong from here and by so doing you changed our own world in south africa. it was from this area that the came very strong and with the you name it that forced, you agitated for the release not only of the former president and the late nelson mandela, but for all the political prisoners in south africa and from there, south africa, with your help to liberate, then we had this man, nelson mandela, whose life changed the world. you recognized the nelson mandela man de

>>el with, as you brilliantly articulated ed, what they are saying is that black people and gay people bottom line. they don't figure in our calculations about what we think is offensive. and as a result of the cracker barrel crowd, that crowd that said, look, we are disgusted with you for removing the items of phil robertson and "duck dynasty." we are moreover disgusted with the fact african-american and latino and other ethnic minorities, along with gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual people have come together to say this is an outrage. and as a result of that, they have turned this into a matter of free speech. the irony, of course, they don't want more speech to counteract their negative, vicious, offensive and vitt tree olic speech. so they're mad at the fact we are challenging what they are saying and we don't have the right to free speech. a & e has made the calculation that african-american people and gay people don't matter, not only to their bottom line, but won't raise as hard a ruckus as the right wing will, and those who are very supportive of the "duck dynasty" are the

at the time you know, as black people we couldn't go to white areas. my memory of growing up was there was a lot of kaz pers, the military trucks that brought in the young white soldiers, so we grew up around that and a lot of tear gas because the police would often have these run ins with young people. >> there must have been a time when you realised the world was looking at south africa saying, "what is going on there is wrong?" what did that mine to you and your friends? >> it meant we had to make choices. we'd feel anger about the system but we didn't really know what it meant. we tried to find way to challenge that anger. some of us joined the apartheid struggle >> can't you explain the anger? >> i'll give you an example. when i was a small child my uncle would drive around johannesburg. we drove past a park and i said, "i'd like to go and play in the maj." my uncle said, "the park is closed." we could see it was open. years later my uncle said, "the reason you couldn't go into that park is you were black and it was a white park." imagine being a

black people don't have the same connections as jewish people. black people don't have the same connections as oil people. >> well said, sir. finally we get back to blaming the jews. we asked kanye west's cat to comment. >> and we know who caused the cat to fall. the jews. the jews. there was a cushion down there and the jews took the cushion and then the jews drugged the cat. the cat started moving and the cat falls on the floor. finally, finally somebody has the guts to get to the of somebody's problem. it is the jews or the lack of jews. >> first of all, if the jews are so well connected, what happened to me? i missed that boat. second of all if that is the case, then i think it is proven when we look at how much more all of our jewish presidents accomplished rather than barack obama. and thirdly, i am so glad that the president is looking to the guy who knocked up a reality star. >> actually president obama does not communicate with kanye west. he called him a jackass. they are not friends anymore. i created a ripple throughout the world, a wo

controversy with hunger games about one character being portrayed as a black actress, she's in the book described as a black person, and people weren't able to feel the same level of sympathy for the character because she was black the root of that is problematic. >> let me ask you think. we didn't get to debate the position, we need to think about changing image of santa but that, too, brought a lot of feelings out saying look. you know? those pieces showed a black santa. some people are taking issue with her suggestion the mere color of his skin in these portrayals as whooilt is somehow alienating to black children. >> it is alienating. >> why is white skin alienate something >> i grew up in all white town the only black student until high school my mom prioritized having symbols traditional symbols in the house that looked like me. so i could grow up as a young girl be proud of who i am. that is important as you're developing your identity growing up. and so it's not about whiteness problematic for me, it's about being proud of who you are and seeing things and understanding your history and hert yivenlth i have black barb

the hunger games" about one of the characters being portrayed as a black actress though in the book she's described as a black person. people didn't feel the same level of sympathy for her because she was black. the root of that is a problem. we should tap into why that is. >> let me ask you this. we didn't get to debate ms. harris's position which was we need to think about changing the image of santa. >> mm-hmm. >> that, too, has brought a lot of feelings out by viewers saying, look, historically, all the pieces i referenced, all the pieces ms. harris referenced showed a black santa the. people are taking issue with her suggestion that the mere color of his skin in these portrayals as white is somehow alienating to black children or, as she put it, causes shame in them. >> it is alienating. >> why is it alienating and why is that not racist? >> i grew up in an all white town. i was the only black student until high school. my mom prioritized having symbols, traditional, cultural symbolses in the house that looked like me so i could grow up as a young girl and be proud of who i am. that's important as you develop your iden

there were some people who felt that we should, as you put it, do our own black thing. t those were in the minority. most people. most people who i came in contact with felt we should talk together. when the negotiations happened, the proposed talks of national government unity, there was a great sense that we could pull our nation together. many people struggled and suffered for many years believing that we can come together as a nation and move forward. >> we'll take a short break and when we return we'll talk more with david ottaway about the last days of apartheid in south africa, and our nelson mandela's influence shaped the post liberation state. stay with us. it's "inside story." al jazeera america brings you more us and global news than any other american news channel. >> tell us exactly what is behind this story. >> from more sources around the world. >> the situation has intensified here at the border. >> start every morning, every day 5am to 9 eastern. >> with al jazeera america. power of the people until we restore >> welcome back. i'm ray suarez, and this is

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there were some people who felt that we should , as you put it, do our own black thing. t those were in the minority. most people . most people who i came in contact with felt we should talk together. when the negotiations happened , the proposed talks of national government unity, there was a great sense that we could pull our nation together. many people struggled and suffered for many years believing that we can come together as a nation and move forward. >> we'll take a short break and when we return we'll talk more with david ottaway about the last days of apartheid in south africa, and our nelson mandela's influence shaped the post liberation state. stay with us. it's "inside story." >> i'm phil torres coming up this week on techknow... for some soldiersknow... the war never ends. watch as a battle once fought in a warzone, comes to life on a video screen. >> he was doused in deisel fuel and he was just in a lot of pain. >> can re-living trauma lead to a cure for ptsd? technow on al jazeera america sense of security but today again it reminds us that >> welcome back

there were some people who felt that we should , as you put it, do our own black thing. those were in the minority. most people . most people who i came in contact with felt we should talk together. when the negotiations happened , the proposed talks of national government unity, there was a great sense that we could pull our nation together. many people struggled and suffered for many years believing that we can come together as a nation and move forward. >> we'll take a short break and when we return we'll talk more with david ottaway about the last days of apartheid in south africa, and our nelson mandela's influence shaped the post liberation state. stay with us. it's "inside story." >> an al jazeera america exclusive... former president jimmy carter reflects on the life and legacy of nelson mandela. >> that spirit of nelson mandela is embedded deeply in the heart and soul of the south africans... >> they worked side by side for freedom, now president carter talks about mandela's global impact. a revealing interview you won't see anywhere else. >> i've never heard him

the hunger games" about one of the characters being portrayed as a black actress though in the book she's described as a black person. people weren't able to feel the same level of sympathy for her because she was black. the root of that is a problem. we should tap into why that is. >> let me ask you this. ms. harris' position, which was we need to think about changing the image of santa. >> mm-hmm. >> that, too, has brought a lot of feelings out by viewers saying, look, historically, all the pieces i referenced, all the pieces ms. harris referenced showed a black santa. some people are taking issue with her suggestion that the mere color of his skin in these portrayals as white is somehow alienating to black children or, as she put it, causes shame in them. >> it is alienating to black children. >> why is it alienating and why is that not racist? >> i grew up in an all-white town. i was the only black student until high school. my mom prioritized having symbols, traditional, cultural symbols, in the house that looked like me, so i could grow up as a young girl and be proud of who i am. that's important as you develop your

people who were educated at harvard. that is also of two centuries later as we begin to take young black men in black women to prepare the of for these various roles. so as it becomes a radical experience not necessarily civilize but the benefactors. but the capacity of people of color to use their education to pursue their own project of liberating their people. i am sure they should not be ignored or swept under the rug. i am careful much to make the argument educationally succeeded but to say that we could use it strategically is one thing. but in fact, native americans will find loads of examples of people who took the education turning it into radical purposes within their own community. >> host: what is your research covered 10 years years, when you first started with the concept that turned into a "ebony and ivy" and dr. craig steven wilder fascinating reid, i am just curious if this is required reading for your students at m.i.t.? >> guest: i never ask my students to buy any book that i have written. [laughter] i could tell them what is in the. >> host: anything as a historian and the thing that just surprised yo

people against black -- mostly black people against black people, prairnl the zulu party and mandela's party. it wasn't seen as an ethnic divide, you were either hated or ignored. so i went 52 into sowto. they were pig up and they were trying to force their way into one of the these dormitory buildings. it was like this very terrible silence from inside. terrifying. the people outside had knives trying to get in. this man burst in, made eye contact as he went past. all these guys took after him and i followed him and he went down. and they started killing him you know at very close range, you know, touching range. and i kept photographing which was astonishing to me. first time i'd ever seen someone killed. and i wasn't psychologically prepared for it. i was absolutely horrified. and i was also horrified that i didn't try and stop his death in any way, you know. you know, journalists are not meant to interfere supposedly. but you know i'm a citizen first and a human being first and i wasn't even a professional journalist then. anyway i took the pictures processed them and that was the start of my career. the b

white people as well as black people and put the country on a better path. understood the game was up and he had to find a way to work to change the whole situation. it was my privilege to know mr. mandela and go to his inauguration in 1994 and be there for that moment when he took the oath of office and escorted up on stage by the four generals of the south african defense forces. as a soldier what i saw was the remarkable moment in the transfer of power. not only that, but the transfer of trust and respect to a new president who happened to be black. >> you also talked about the fact and as we speak of how gracious he was and what a large man he was and how he was the opposite of the petty unwielding politicians we have. you were sitting at the inauguration and you noticed he had his jailers on the front row. when you asked him did you think about getting even, what did he tell you? >> what he said to a number of people who asked him this question. how can you come out of jail without a desire to exact retribution? he said if i were to do that, i would men

here was a g who sat in prison and began the negotiations between the white rulers as well as the black peopleoppressed and was able to negotiate an agreement, a settlement between those two parties. and yet even upon his death and in his tribute, we had a world stage that began with president obama, the leader of i would argue the finest democracy on the face of the earth, and was finished by raul castro, the president of cuba. clearly leaders who represent completely different ideologies. leaders from countries that don't agree on a whole lot but who agree on one thing. that is that nelson mandela is someone worthy of their praise and someone who inspired each one of these political figures from across the spectrum. >> it may not surprise you to know while you were caught up in this very ving event of international significance, there was a the love politics going on in washington, d.c. some reaction already to president obama shaking hands today with cuban president raul castro. one of your colleagues, senator marco rubio, republican from colorado blasted the shake sayi if the president was

the movie not black people as butlers not to say they are bad at it.o here we do go about #why do i keep hitting send? chawdz. >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight actor the lead vocalist of 30 seconds to mars his latest film is "dallas buyers club." >> the whole purpose of study is to determine if it's helping people. >> you know there ain't no helping. >> doesn't mean we have to stop trying. >> why are you so good to me? bless your little heart. >> promise me you show up for the rest -- >> i promise you that i'll try my very best. >> i want you to mean it. >> jon: very good in this. please welcome jared leto. [cheers and applause] >> jon: soak it in boys. soak it in. enjoy the feeling. [ laughter ] >> why did you sit down? >> jon: i feel like your narc older brother right now trying to convince to you go back to school. sit. my friend -- >> yes. >> jon: what a performance you give in this film and a beautiful film. >> thank you. >> jon: it's out. they can see it. >> you can see it. >> you can walk to a theater and see it. >> jon: you won an award t

my grandfather said, "nelson mandela, i will fail you in my class if you look at people as black and ite." they were talking about this in the "30s and "40s, so he was bred in the spirit of nonracialism and was angry in the sense of seeing his people butchered. deep down he was a man of peace. >> he had friends of all colours from an early age. the fact that he had the strength, you're talking about what he said to your grandfather, and your grandfather said to him, but the reality is he was criticised to being too close to whites, and not taking action by some of the more radical elements of congress. president clinton said that nelson mandela chose the politics of inclusion, instead of the politics of resentment, and that had to be a difficult choice given some of the pressures he was under. >> i'm glad you are using the term inclusion. apartheid meant exclusion. he felt the best way to defeat the whole exclusion that apartheid represented was to be as inclusive as possible. yes, there were some among the liberation movements, not just the anc who questioned the logic behind reconci

tended to perpetual the wealthier people in their previous wealthier positions. >> for white south africans leaving does not make sense. they are as south african as black south africans. >> that's exactly right. i hope in the long term with andersoned education for everyone and with benevolent programs to boost people up that have practically nothing in their life, to give them distribution of wealthy in south africa, it is still a country that has enormous natural resources and enormous human resources in productive labor and that sort of thing and enormous potential. and my home is and my dream is and my prayer is that the ambitions of nelson mandela will be realized in the future. >> when you talked about rowe of rodesia into zimbabwe, that was something that a lot of white south south africans became afraid of, the property that you acquired wasn't yours and we'll redistribute it, that was something they felt they weren't getting a fair shake. that worried a lot of people in south africa. could it go that way? when you are talking about human rights these are dicey issues. >> i was very active in make it possible for mugabe to be elected. and when

here was a guy who sat in prison and began the negotiations between the white rulers as well as the black peopleca who were being oppressed and was able to negotiate an agreement, a settlement between those two parties. and yet even upon his death and in his tribute, we had a world stage that began with president obama, the leader of i would argue the finest democracy on the face of the earth, and was finished by raul castro, the president of cuba. clearly leaders who represent completely different ideologies. leaders from countries that don't agree on a whole lot but who agree on one thing. that is that nelson mandela is someone worthy of their praise and someone who inspired each one of these political figures from across the spectrum. >> it may not surprise you to know while you were caught up in this very moving event of international significance, there was a the love politics going on in washington, d.c. some reaction already to president obama shaking hands today with cuban president raul castro. one of your colleagues, senator marco rubio, republican from colorado blasted the shake sayin

blacks? >> there's a perception that blags are criminals. so the racial disparity in there is looking at it as inherent to black people so each of these people creating crimes individually. >> are you saying the judges do that? >> and public opinion. if we look at why are there differences racially in sentencing, we can say that people think that crack is more addictive or black yuths are likely to sell it. the biggest problem is the fear that there'll be an attack on the large ecommunity. the better that we can deal with this, politicians come after the kids and say we'll be tough on crimes. it's a way for them to say you're going a good job. blacks and whites - the studies show used drugs at the same right. are they not caught committing the crimes. do they have better lawyers. >> we have to rethink what is the face of crack america. is it a person that we see on tv all the time smoking in a ghetto place. is it the mayor of toronto. i think that is the way we need to think of it. the majority of crack co-cane people are white people. 51% of those people are white. the others are black and brown. >> so many people are in prison today. >> it

there were some people who felt that we should , as you put it, do our own black thing. t those were in the minority. most people . most people who i came in contact with felt we should talk together. when the negotiations happened , the proposed talks of national government unity, there was a great sense that we could pull our nation together. many people struggled and suffered for many years believing that we can come together as a nation and move forward. >> we'll take a short break and when we return we'll talk more with david ottaway about the last days of apartheid in south africa, and our nelson mandela's influence shaped the post liberation state. stay with us. it's "inside story." most of the students are black or latino, some with an undocumented parent. ericbringsu controversial... >> both parties are owned by the corporations. >> ..entertaining >> it's fun to play with ideas. >> ...thought provoking >> get your damn education. >> ...surprising >> oh, absolutely! >> ...exclusive one-on-one interviews with the most interesting people of our time. >> you're liste

understand he's an old guy from down in that part of the country where that was looked upon as blacks were happy peoplere all happy with them. it's a terribly racist description of people. >> i'm not sure that's fair to call phil robertson racist. >> jesse jackson is late to the game. >> maybe he wanted to wait for his opportunity. he knows pr and timing. if there was one way to make this story more ridiculous, it was having jesse jackson come out on this. i think people were ready to move on from this story. on that point, i think bob, when we first talked about this controversy, i thought that's where most the the anger would be. that was late and coming. >> you said you were a crazy excited host. more than your wife in an elf suit? okay. >> it's predictable he would assert himself in this conversation. this has gone so ridiculous i think. he said what he said, apologized sincerely. let's move on. i think it makes it worse for jesse jackson to jump in. people go oh, let's move on. >> i've got to clarify something. i did not say he was a racist. i said it was a racist stereo type. >>> here's be making

understand he's an old guy from down in that part of the country where that was looked upon as blacks were happy people all happy with them. it's a terribly racist description of people. >> i'm not sure that's fair to call phil robertson racist. >> jesse jackson is late to the game. >> maybe he wanted to wait for his opportunity. he knows pr and timing. if there was one way to make this story more ridiculous, it was having jesse jackson come out on this. i think people were ready to move on from this story. on that point, i think bob, when we first talked about this controversy, i thought that's where most the the anger would be. that was late and coming. >> you said you were a crazy excited host. more than your wife in an elf suit? okay. >> it's predictable he would assert himself in this conversation. this has gone so ridiculous i think. he said what he said, apologized sincerely. let's move on. i think it makes it worse for jesse jackson to jump in. people go oh, let's move on. >> i've got to clarify something. i did not say he was a racist. i said it was a racist stereo type. >>> here's be making a

the wealth gap has grown here, as it has elsewhere. more black people have joined the middle class and are enjoying a better lifestyle, but they are still among the select few. for equality, rights have not translated to equality in the standard of living. the poverty rate stands at more than 50%. one in four is unemployed. the crime rate is still high. and there have been some social unrest. security forces opened fire striking miners, mining workers, in august of last year. 34 died and 84 were wounded. i spoke with some yesterday, i spoke yesterday with some miners, and they said the shootings made them feel as though they were back in the apartheid era. >> how do south africans view their current roster of leaders? >> many see some as corrupt and incompetent, as well. the current president zouma also has not been freed from allegations of scandals. the recent one involves an allegation that he used public funding to expand his private mansion. many showed how unhappy they were with president zouma at mandela's memorial ceremony. they booed instead of

. >> we're so happy because he made south africa to be a rainbow nation as you can see black people andhite people are sitting together. >> reporter: today, people were undaunted by the weather. the harder it rained, the harder they celebrated. africans believe if it rains on the day of a person's funeral, it's a sign that person lived a blessed life. amid the singing and celebrating people made clear to us, nelson mandela wasn't perfect, and major problems still exist. but when mandela became president in 1994, anything became possible. >> we say long live the spirit of mandela. >> reporter: one man told us, mandela spent 27 years in prison. a little rain won't stop us from celebrating his life. and diane, he added, celebrating it loudly. >> tens of thousands strong. thank you so much byron pitts and also terry moran. >>> back here at home there is hope tonight that another round of paralyzing gridlock in washington could be averted. congressman paul ryan, senator patty murray announced a bipartisan agreement, no new taxing, more cuts to the debt and if this deal is approved it could s

people, that's also a sin, as well. so i mean, he is not without sin, and people who judge christians, so-called christians who judge gay people or black even sinners, they are not without sin, as well. because the bible tells you and jesus says you're not supposed to judge anybody. >> we're the very ones saying we're not without somebody. the strip tour says we're all sinners. i think that was part of robertson's point. all of us are sinners. we all fall short of god's mark and our only hope is through redemption through jesus chris -- >> unfortunately, i have to end it there. brian, i wanted to get you in but your new colleague don lemon wouldn't let me do that, so you'll have to blame him in the cafeteria. great conversation, thanks all of you. russell, glad we were able to get you back. >>> major changes coming to the capital. we'll tell you about them coming up next. thanks for inspiring me. thanks for showing me my potential. for teaching me not to take life so seriously. thanks for loving me and being my best friend. don't forget to thank those who helped you take charge of your future and got you where you are today. the boss o

people who were fighting against that system. as a journalist, i had to be even handed and fair if not objective. and so i talked to the people in -- who were fighting the blackeople trying to keep them from becoming citizens. and they talked as our people did. that they were god's chosen people and that black people just weren't made to be first class citizens. so that was the fight that i covered throughout those years. >> so here we are where you have citizens that are black, who the majority of the country would no writes, anything could be done to them, no right to vote, no right to redress and out of this builds over decades the african national congress, there were other movements to the left of them. others that were to the right of them. but the tenacity of this movement led by nelson mandela who did 27 years in jail and transformed it into a democracy. i was there as an election observer in '94, and to see those people lined up as you did, having the first time in their life the right to vote. people were standing for miles. and of course the result was he became the president of the ruling party which became the president of the nation. but i don't

the well not be disturbed cause as a shield against social change and a weapon and the looming battle over a black civil-rights. republican efforts to give a free people measure of equality and opportunity and protection were met by confederate protests as such a radical agenda was a betrayal of the appomattox terms, that the prospect of black citizenship as one virginia newspaper put it, morales and disturbs us. in short, confederates believed that lee had drawn a line in the sand. the north carolina power put it most succinctly, urging seveners to model the behavior on that of lee, she wrote in the summer 1860's six that lee had not stooped his grandly, proud head one hairsbreadth since he surrendered to grant. confederates would observe the terms, but more than this, she insisted, and hon. enemy should not desire. it is idle to attempt to force the confederates to say and feel that they were wrong. from the start this view of things was resoundingly rejected by u.s. grant and his inner circles in the vast majority of union soldiers and civilians. it was precisely an admission of wrongdoing and a change of heart that grant saw from his defeated foes

black people. on campus. and enslaved people but not as students. but they had a long history with native americans. and that's a very -- at black students were excluded. native american students were on campus for 200 years. >> host: doing what? as students? >> guest: students for almost 200 years. >> host: how were they able to be on campuses. you write about that. >> guest: that's the beginning of the book. if you think about it, you know, the first attempt to build a college for native american students is about 210 years before the first attempt build a black college. the first native american graduate from a college is 200 years. the first may -- native minister 150. it sounds like native americans are privileged inspect fact, part of the story telling the book is precisely the role of the university in conquest. it's precisely the role of the university in colonialism. that explains the early presence of native students on campus and precisely that role that explains how universities turn to the slave trade to fund their enterprise. >> host: now. when you say the conquest. from what i was read

think what people are saying is white as a default in this country when the demographics of our current are changing that's the issue. >> he is half white and -- >> i think the president is black when most people see him. >> his mother was white. >> the world sees him as a black man. >> you don't say your mom must have been white. my grandmother is white. they don't see me and go, don, you are one quarter white. it's not that way. >> i'm an irishman. i don't identify as white. >> rezza go ahead. >> how do you know that? >> another issue is megan kelly's assertion that jesus is white. >> do not be give my next segment away. thanks to you guys, stand by we'll talk more if you think -- >> i'll come back to you. if you think this is controversial what about jesus? >> i want you to listen to is this song. this is from my childhood. we heard this every year. teddy van and his daughter singing santa claus is a black man from back in 1973. ♪ santa claus is a black man i found out that's what i'm telling you ♪ ♪ mama must have met santa claus before -- maryland get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they

flag-draped coffins in the same amphitheater were nelson mandela was sworn in as the first black president. they expect as many 2000 peopleour to file past the casket. mr. mandela's body will be transported saturday may village where he spent part of his childhood. the funeral will take place on sunday. opposition leaders in the the offer oft did talks. they will not sit down with him until he fires his government and releases all arrested demonstrators. this rejects -- shows their nameng confidence and for thes showing hope removal of support for the government. pope francis has been named time magazine's person of the year. they credited the pope with healing the mission of the church. he beat out edward snowden for the distinction. the newsmagazine has been giving 1927.ear since that's a look at the top stories down the news at this hour. now let's look at the top stories in asia. a pilot nervous about making manual landing unintentionally disabled the system that on the flight that crashed in san francisco in july. three people were killed in that accident. mia saini joins me from hong kong with more on the investigat

community for any white woman, a any facty turning of the black community on the white community taking a category of people and putting them as a type and dismissing them. of course, what had happened to black people for centuries, so it's a term for white women, and miss anne was the notion of the women i write about were up against. they faced opposition to what they were doing from every possible direction. these were women who were not going up to black harlem just to go slumming. they were not going up to black harlem just as tourists. they really wanted to put the black culture explosion that was the harlem renaissance at the center of their lives and sent ire their lives in black harlem, and it was an up likely idea at the time, and to be tried to be taken seriously in harlem as participants and even as voluntary negroes. one of the obstacles was the idea that women were mississippi anne. don't listen to her, she works for miss anne or worked. they say rightful skepticism from the black community, skepticism the black community had to have given the race relations in the country and face violent opposition from the whi

. >> for some reason people say black institutions as segregation, but not historically white institutions that way. that's american racism for you, right. so what i typically tell people is they are absolutely relevant, and i can give you a great example. if you were to get rid of historically black colleges tomorrow you immediately have a huge drop in the number of scientists, black scientists, doctors, nurses, teachers, pharmacists, lawyers, judges - because hbcu prepare students in those areas. >> gasman argues hbcu seek out students that would otherwise get left behind. >> many are taking val dick torians and students that are highly sought after. in many other cases hbcu are taking students from areas of the country that we forget. detroit is a good examples. students that others think it's too hard to educate them, that society gives up on. >> cel. >> a soto could have slipped through the cracks. she was among the growing number of lat een joes attending hbcu. she moved from dallas to tony leung chiu-wai. she worked at a fast-food restaurant before graduating high school. but paul q

it's a fact that under apartheid, millions of black people or black people as you have been known tointo labor camps and a fact that obama care ensures access to health care for millions of americans who actually frees them from oppressive fear about the devastating consequences of having health care and while apartheid divided people, the affordable care act unites them. joining me now is representative of california karen bass and white house correspondent for american urban radio networks april ryan. thanks to you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> congresswoman, nelson mandela, the communist. i mean, these guys just don't even know their his. >> ri no, they don't. they -- it's ignorance is embarrassing. it's a reason why the image on the continent had to be repaired after what our role was in the apartheid regime. and why we had to have a mass movement to pressure the u.s. government to break ties with the south african regime. so it's an ignorant statement and it's not surprising coming out of bill o'reilly. >> it is not. april, interestingly enough, i just did

much less enough to understand what is unhappy happening to us as african people there's been permeated malice and for thought to remove blackeople from the city. and to speak about cultural institutions whether they were the soul food restaurants or chicago barbara shop and the marcus book store and we can go on and on but those of us who have been in place to stop the hemorrhageing. the jazz heritage center in particular has a dear plays in my heart. former supervisor mark said there were 3 cultural institutions open fillmore street it's the marcus book store and the jazz and the john culture church. the rest is a feeding trove and gym joints which we understand begin joint gave birth to this music. my grandson was able to take advantage of the drum lessons that trudy i didn't gave and other things that have happened that are crumbling e krushl important. there's a great picture here we need to 250k. this of the destined to revitalize and grandparent the african-american community. i'm so glad to see so many of people of color on this board >> (calling names). >> here's the problem you guys want to make it your stuff and t

leaders in south africa today where mandela was sworn in as south africa's first black president. people waited in line for hours to get a glimpse glimpse of the world's peacemaker. the rights of the leard was remembered across the bay area as well. both san francisco and oakland held their own ceremonies. oakland shared after special bond with mandela. >> the tales of song and celebration rank rang in the halls of oakland city hall today. a day of tribute devoted to the memory of human rights leader nelson mandela. they made a fitting setting for the memorial. helped spark a nationwide movement that helped lead to an end to apartheid. >> the u.s. consulate general, the south african said his country is moved by the mandela tributes from around the globe. . >> also for the values he stood for. >> mandela visited oakland coliseum following his release from prison. >> he has gone on. we must carry the torch on. the oakland mayor said mandela even the east bay share a strong bond. >> the i talked to people who were there in the 1990s, he said we recharged him so we can go back and become pr

take over the country, but to get the white minority regime to listen to the demands of black people, but even as late, early in '64, martin luther king was calling for nelson mandela's release. in 1965, he spoke in london, and called for internal sanctions. he echoed that in the '80s and, of course you know, the free south african movement in which president obama spoke of being a part of as a young student was very much a part of the ultimate number of things that brought a man to apartheid in south africa. i was u here in '85, and as you said, it was a gruesome, gruesome period, and i went to a hilltop so that i could overlook the prison where they said nelson mandela had a garden that he used to tend, and i was so hoping, if i couldn't see him, i could see the garden, but, of course, i was followed by state security people an d had to leae in a hurry. >> well, there you are. pictures of you, the young woman, sitting down with nelson mandela. >> that was at the council on foreign relations when he made his first visit to new york. >> we're going to listen in here. this is cyril ramaposa number

people can come together and lay down the burden of hate, that's what counts. >> simon: 1993, mandela's greatest milestone. south africa passed a new constitution, guaranteeing blacks full rights as would have once seemed implausible, mandela and de klerk were both awarded the nobel prize for peace. >> there are very few people that deserve a nobel prize as much as mandela. >> simon: national elections were held. the man who had spent 27 years in prison was now a presidential candidate. >> we are one country. we are one people. i cherish the idea of a new south africa. >> simon: april 26, 1994. it's difficult for anyone born in a democracy to so much as imagine the thrill of putting a ballot in a box. >> i slept with my i.d. under my pillow so that i musn't forget it. how long have we been waiting! >> i'm going to vote, for the first time, as a black man. >> it was amazing. to see hundreds and thousands of people who had never cast a vote before waiting in long lines, people shouting for joy. that sense of happiness, that sense of freedom, that sense of liberation. >> for the people of south africa, this is indeed a joyous night for the human spirit. >> simon: there was no suspen