well, to discuss that i'm now joined by assad. dirani, former director general of pakistan's inter services intelligence. mr. jeremy, thank you very much for your time. it's a great honor for me to talk to you then come welcome. now you were in charge of pakistan's intelligence services in the early 1991, the soviet union collapsed and a few years before that, i'm sure you're witness that followed the so we pull out from afghanistan when he now hear weston analyst compared the current operation to current russian operation, ukraine to you know, the previous one in afghanistan and some of them, i think, predicting the consequences will be the same. that threshold will be buried as a state in the ukraine. what are your thoughts? do you think those are accurate predictions that many bedrooms between brilliancy since but i have found a son and he who crane? i can think of a couple anyone coming to find his son, whether the service or the americans, our neighborhood. we used to call it strategic, tipped leg, straightforward, one score ukraine, the strictly depth of russia. you called it the near