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astounded me. i wrote a letter to usda, saying that it was the worst thing i'd ever seen in pennsylvania and that if they could award funding, that they do so. and they did. they did. over $15 million, grant and loan, for that project. mcmillen: and it took years to get funding. what kept this project going was the steadfastness of the community -- they knew they needed sewage, and they just kept plugging along till we got through every issue that came up. the project will consist of 44 miles of line that we're going to put in, and a treatment plant. it will permanently eliminate the problem, the health hazards. i anticipate a definite regrowth in herminie, and it will be a good thing for everybody. zdravecky: maybe it won't help me too much because i'm an old lady, but whoever comes along after me will get the benefit. schwartz: there's nothing isolated about the herminie situation. it's a very common problem. it's a town that was built before current standards. this is not backwoods rural america
astounded me. i wrote a letter to usda, saying that it was the worst thing i'd ever seen in pennsylvania and that if they could award funding, that they do so. and they did. they did. over $15 million, grant and loan, for that project. mcmillen: and it took years to get funding. what kept this project going was the steadfastness of the community -- they knew they needed sewage, and they just kept plugging along till we got through every issue that came up. the project will consist of 44 miles...
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chris: 63 it was astounding to me what he was able to do. when we come back, a special look at them kids. [ sigh ] they have no idea what it was like before u-verse high speed internet. yeah, you couldn't just stream movies to a device like that. one time, i had to wait half a day to watch a movie. you watched movies?! i was lucky if i could watch a show. show?! man, i was happy to see a sneezing panda clip! trevor, have you eaten today? you sound a little grumpy. [ laughter ] [ male announcer ] connect all your wi-fi-enabled devices with u-verse high speed internet. rethink possible. chris: welcome back. a special prediction this week from these two students of the american president i -- presidency [november we'll remark the 50th anniversary of the kennedy assassination. my question, what's your gut right now about how the country moves after the end of the obama presidency. retreverage politically, go to the conservative side or move ahead? >> probably go more moderate, a little bit more to the right. that's generally what happens in amer
chris: 63 it was astounding to me what he was able to do. when we come back, a special look at them kids. [ sigh ] they have no idea what it was like before u-verse high speed internet. yeah, you couldn't just stream movies to a device like that. one time, i had to wait half a day to watch a movie. you watched movies?! i was lucky if i could watch a show. show?! man, i was happy to see a sneezing panda clip! trevor, have you eaten today? you sound a little grumpy. [ laughter ] [ male announcer...
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chris: 63 it was astounding to me what he was able to do. when we come back, a special enough about the book, i want to hear about your date. well, he showed up in a van. [ women ] oh-awww. [ voices in background ] [ female announcer ] swapportunity. the opportunity to swap a higher calorie snack for a delicious 90 calorie yoplait light. ♪ sorry... about your date, the details of your date. [ female announcer ] just one swap a day helps keep the calories away. yoplait. it is so good. so you can make easy, no-fee reloads with cash and checks... ♪ ♪ and know you're not on your own. so you can get the reloadable card that keeps up with you. chase liquid. so you can. chris: welcome back. a special prediction this week from these two students of the american president i -- presidency [november we'll remark the 50th anniversary of the kennedy assassination. my question, what's your gut right now about how the country moves after the end of the obama presidency. retreverage politically, go to the conservative side or move ahead? >> probably go more
chris: 63 it was astounding to me what he was able to do. when we come back, a special enough about the book, i want to hear about your date. well, he showed up in a van. [ women ] oh-awww. [ voices in background ] [ female announcer ] swapportunity. the opportunity to swap a higher calorie snack for a delicious 90 calorie yoplait light. ♪ sorry... about your date, the details of your date. [ female announcer ] just one swap a day helps keep the calories away. yoplait. it is so good. so you...
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there is a reason why they have to be properly insured and inspected and metered, and it is astounding to me, and i understand that the jurisdictional issues but that we are allowing people to take their personal cars and pick up the public like a taxi cab with an app. and i am going to give you predictions here and this is not exaggeration, if this continues it will deregulate the taxi and the med dallons will go down and any lenders will not come in, what you are going to see is a major crime happen with someone who is picking up the public. you are going to see major accidents happen and this is not exaggerating it is already starting to happen. in terms of the taxi industry i have to ask you simply, if you want a deregulated market that is fine. desoto cab and other companies will work under a deregulated market. as a matter of fact if i turn myself into a sedan service under a state license, put out as many cars as i needed and not pay medallion holders and do the inspections or the insurances that i feel necessary, we will wipe the floor with these services because we have an enormous
there is a reason why they have to be properly insured and inspected and metered, and it is astounding to me, and i understand that the jurisdictional issues but that we are allowing people to take their personal cars and pick up the public like a taxi cab with an app. and i am going to give you predictions here and this is not exaggeration, if this continues it will deregulate the taxi and the med dallons will go down and any lenders will not come in, what you are going to see is a major crime...
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if you go back to 1946, this still astounds me, we were completely emasculated. after that war i realized we were tired of it, war on two continents. we were successful. had it not turned out that way, we probably would not be sitting in this room. things would have turned out dramatically different. as a nation we took the service and went completely into the basement. i look at that and i look at how quickly it turned around. even some of the great general officers. i would argue that when we went to war in korea there was a lack of for paribas and readiness that probably cost us dearly early in the war. you read that and it does not -- and it seems inescapable. for anecdotal purposes, the marine corps has not been below $107,000 since 1950. no administration, no leadership in congress has taken at some 71. i do not know that i would say that that is the reason. i look at the challenging times and after world war ii is the one that i would look at. we have different opinions about how much is enough. what we cannot afford to do is to get it exactly wrong. ok, t
if you go back to 1946, this still astounds me, we were completely emasculated. after that war i realized we were tired of it, war on two continents. we were successful. had it not turned out that way, we probably would not be sitting in this room. things would have turned out dramatically different. as a nation we took the service and went completely into the basement. i look at that and i look at how quickly it turned around. even some of the great general officers. i would argue that when we...
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there is a reason why they have to be properly insured and inspected and metered, and it is astounding to meand i understand that the jurisdictional issues but that we are allowing people to take their peon
there is a reason why they have to be properly insured and inspected and metered, and it is astounding to meand i understand that the jurisdictional issues but that we are allowing people to take their peon
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. >> reporter: it still astounds me how long your addiction lasted.reason, no doubt. i'm here for a reason because there are so many things i went through in my life that people, like you say, people had died from doing less. i'm still here. >> reporter: at 48 years old, he now lives in new jersey. not far from three of his seven children. but very far from the roar of the crowd. and that's just fine with doc gooden. you look around, you're in a what, two bedroom apartment. >> i have nor peace here than i had when i had the, you know, the 12 bedroom house at one time. >> reporter: this is a far cry from the 12 bedroom house. but you have what you want. >> i have what i want now within myself and just, you know, i feel good about who i am. it has molded me into the man i am today. i'm very happy for that. >> reporter: next. he fought for our country and their freedom. >> reporter: a happy ending 70 years in the making. ,,,,,,,,,,,, >> at long last a world war ii hero has received the honors that were always his due, and he has a young and very devoted
. >> reporter: it still astounds me how long your addiction lasted.reason, no doubt. i'm here for a reason because there are so many things i went through in my life that people, like you say, people had died from doing less. i'm still here. >> reporter: at 48 years old, he now lives in new jersey. not far from three of his seven children. but very far from the roar of the crowd. and that's just fine with doc gooden. you look around, you're in a what, two bedroom apartment. >>...
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this is what astound me about them. i've been dealing with these guys for two years with their pr firm. is how much they underplayed this thing. i can't tell you, if they were just spinning me all these years, telling me that this isn't that big of a deal. there were times where they out right misled me. i can't tell if this was spin --. melissa: really believed it. >> that insane and they believed it. i can tell you this. i think it is a combination of both. i remember when i covered john thain's inglorious exit from merrill lynch when i was at cnbc. ii was really interesting. i was reporting for weeks he was on the outs with, like when merrill lynch was being mergee with bank of america. john thain actually thought he would take over for ken lewis. i was reporting for weeks that he wasn't, he was on the outs with ken lewis. i don't think he had any idea. by the way he found out he was being fired from me on tv. there is a degree of that here at sac. that cohen, that steve cohen himself is so walled in by, this is my op
this is what astound me about them. i've been dealing with these guys for two years with their pr firm. is how much they underplayed this thing. i can't tell you, if they were just spinning me all these years, telling me that this isn't that big of a deal. there were times where they out right misled me. i can't tell if this was spin --. melissa: really believed it. >> that insane and they believed it. i can tell you this. i think it is a combination of both. i remember when i covered...
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court is even more compromised and even trickier because there's a six-person jury here which is astounding to me that from the standpoint of this man's, you know, look, we can all have this feelings about he deserves not only his day in court, he deserves a fair trial and deserves not to be judged unless and until all the evidence is in. >> here's the point. we knew the murderers were out there. running around with reckless glee celebrating the fact he killed medgar evers. sit on juries who make decisions about the future of our children. you're right. >> the screening process presumably by a competent attorney to make sure that doesn't happen. >> it does matter if this one juror of color is black or latino. because the evidence implicifies. people who latino are just as likely to have this against blacks as people who are white. it matters. >> we're doing this, of course, because what we know about the jury is simply this fact. maya wiley. josh dubin. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson. that's "all in" for this evening. "the "rachel maddow show" begins right now. >>> thank you at home f
court is even more compromised and even trickier because there's a six-person jury here which is astounding to me that from the standpoint of this man's, you know, look, we can all have this feelings about he deserves not only his day in court, he deserves a fair trial and deserves not to be judged unless and until all the evidence is in. >> here's the point. we knew the murderers were out there. running around with reckless glee celebrating the fact he killed medgar evers. sit on juries...
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it is astounding to me that the secretary of health and human services won't provide that waiver. not just for this young lady but for apparently the two other young people who are also on this list and awaiting a lung. as i understand it there were three pediatric lung transplants last year. the. so, the likelihood of a pediatric lung becoming available for these children is not great anymore. asking for thor go to the top of the list. we're asking for her to be eligible for the list. my understanding i from a clinical standpoint, her health status would dictate that under the rules of transplantation would move her to the top of the list if she were allowed to be on the list. so, a notion that the secretary of health and human services is protecting some sacrosanct thing so we keep order in the system, i just disagree with adamantly, and i think that the days -- this young girl's days are numbered with her current clinical statusment i have yet to see any rope demonstrated to me why the secretary ought not provide that waiver. >> mr. hill. >> the question for the -- [inaudible]
it is astounding to me that the secretary of health and human services won't provide that waiver. not just for this young lady but for apparently the two other young people who are also on this list and awaiting a lung. as i understand it there were three pediatric lung transplants last year. the. so, the likelihood of a pediatric lung becoming available for these children is not great anymore. asking for thor go to the top of the list. we're asking for her to be eligible for the list. my...
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antidepressants which are suicide going to especially for that age group and to me it's astounding that the government allows big pharma to make it a cash cow and so many of the soldiers are on drug cocktails with four and five and six drugs and so many of killing themselves and that's why and i think that the data shows as well as you would watch you know david i want to go back to something you said earlier because you made it so my doctors are pill dispensers now that's about it. i think yes i think peter part of the problem here is that doctors have agreed allies who are prescription only arrangements for drug. do it means that compared to a pilot for instance if you take a flight from moscow to new york the pilot has a real incentive to make sure that you get there alive because if you don't get there alive she will get there alive doctors on the other hand when they put you on pills we both think we all think that doctors are just as much in the business of keeping us safe as pilots but in fact when a doctor puts you on a pill if you don't get to where she wants you to go she does
antidepressants which are suicide going to especially for that age group and to me it's astounding that the government allows big pharma to make it a cash cow and so many of the soldiers are on drug cocktails with four and five and six drugs and so many of killing themselves and that's why and i think that the data shows as well as you would watch you know david i want to go back to something you said earlier because you made it so my doctors are pill dispensers now that's about it. i think yes...
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he identified her and -- and even quoted some survivors who had were astounded by her violence. that got me on the leave here is someone an outstanding figure. let me test out whether or not it was true. let me try to corroborate this particular testimony with other materials. and i got documentation and found in fact her marriage application and verified who she was and what her biography she was and she was in fact sent there. she was a real person. she was there with the daughter. we could see in the german documentation and continued to collect more victim testimony about her. and that's really related to primary sources in this case. and there are other cases in my book, of the thirteen biography, i identify people through memoirs, i mean, they came out and had the audacity to write the memoir and leave out some of the history. i use it as a starting point and start to dig. and make phone call and send letters and do all of that. >> where do the women go after the war? what happened to them? >> most of them went back to west germany. austria, i have women from have vienna who were secr
he identified her and -- and even quoted some survivors who had were astounded by her violence. that got me on the leave here is someone an outstanding figure. let me test out whether or not it was true. let me try to corroborate this particular testimony with other materials. and i got documentation and found in fact her marriage application and verified who she was and what her biography she was and she was in fact sent there. she was a real person. she was there with the daughter. we could...
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astounding. >> it's so interesting to me, because we have all of the focus right now on the government watchinge surveillance programs, and it's so much in the spotlight, and really what you have every single day are foreign entities and foreign server farms outside of shanghai, looking to america's biggest corporate secrets and that's something that could be damaging to the american economy. >> well, it can. i mean, we are seeing a dramatic shift of intellectual property from west to east. what people tend not to understand is that businesses and governments create store and transmit information on the same porous internet that you and i use in our personal relations. secrecy from privacy are pretty much the same thing but they are just asserted by different actors, and you and i assert a private interest, and your government and employment is secret interests, and it's somebody asserting the right and the ability to keep somebody else from knowing something. and since we are all transmitting and working on the incredibly porous networks where identities are easy to spoof, both privacy and sec
astounding. >> it's so interesting to me, because we have all of the focus right now on the government watchinge surveillance programs, and it's so much in the spotlight, and really what you have every single day are foreign entities and foreign server farms outside of shanghai, looking to america's biggest corporate secrets and that's something that could be damaging to the american economy. >> well, it can. i mean, we are seeing a dramatic shift of intellectual property from west...
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astounding. >> so interesting to me.ve all this focus on the government watching surveillance programs so much in the spotlight. really, what you have every single day are foreign entities, foreign servers outside shanghai, looking into america's biggest corporate secrets and that's something that could be quite damaging to the american economy. >> it can. we're seeing a dramatic shift of intellectual property west to ea east. what people tend not to understand is that businesses and governments create, store and transmit information on the same porous internet that you and i use in our person relations. secrecy and privacy are really pretty much the same thing. they're just asserted by different actors, you and i assert a privacy interest, your company and governor and employer assert a secrecy interest. in both case, someone asserting the right and ability to keep somebody else from knowing something. since we're all transmitting and working on all these incredibly porous networks where identities are easy to spoof, bo
astounding. >> so interesting to me.ve all this focus on the government watching surveillance programs so much in the spotlight. really, what you have every single day are foreign entities, foreign servers outside shanghai, looking into america's biggest corporate secrets and that's something that could be quite damaging to the american economy. >> it can. we're seeing a dramatic shift of intellectual property west to ea east. what people tend not to understand is that businesses...
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being used as a political pawn, it is astounding to me people would call him a hero. int: let us go to david flint, michigan. say russia andto u.s. relationships have never been that great. i do not think they ever will be. had a good job. why he did what he did come i cannot understand. i know times are bad and they need to catch these terrorists. newink we have a lot more york bombings -- i do not understand all of the citizens calling in the saying they support him giving out of this information. they hate him -- they hate obama so bad until they are trying to protect this trader. that is my opinion. think the u.s.t relationships have been good with russia. do we keep russia on their toes, do they keep us on our toes? how would you like to see the relationship be? wish it would be better so russians would not be supporting countries like syria and keeping wars going. i wish our relationship was better when we could have more peace in the world. michigan.d in a tweet -- llamar in virginia, an independent caller. caller: i think people are putting too much on snowden
being used as a political pawn, it is astounding to me people would call him a hero. int: let us go to david flint, michigan. say russia andto u.s. relationships have never been that great. i do not think they ever will be. had a good job. why he did what he did come i cannot understand. i know times are bad and they need to catch these terrorists. newink we have a lot more york bombings -- i do not understand all of the citizens calling in the saying they support him giving out of this...
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them the inability to to really manage that and the message that to me has been politically astounding for this administration republicans ready to take advantage of while republicans will try to take advantage of it but the problem with republicans is they very often overplay their hand you know they they think the joker they've got is an ace and so they've got to get a look at the facts on the ground as people perceive them and recognize how to begin a new narrative how to turn the argument in the direction that they like to so in this again another vacuum as we are going into the summer months the economy seems to be strong for some not all jobs are you know one hundred seventy thousand one month eighty thousand the next month this is in equity or imbalance in opportunity is something i think the party should speak to and spend less time with the saber rattling on on other issues going to an immigration bill well you know i i was i was very strongly in favor and thought that the idea of having an immigration bill was something that a lot of republicans wanted to have happen before t
them the inability to to really manage that and the message that to me has been politically astounding for this administration republicans ready to take advantage of while republicans will try to take advantage of it but the problem with republicans is they very often overplay their hand you know they they think the joker they've got is an ace and so they've got to get a look at the facts on the ground as people perceive them and recognize how to begin a new narrative how to turn the argument...
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there are so many instances of this it is astounding to me you do not know them personally or have not seen them. i do not know what to diligence you have done, but there is a real problem. you have 26,000 cases of on wanted sexual contact, sexual assault, rape. we do not know how many of each. --the 3300 or porting case reported cases from last year alone, only one goes to trial. once it goes, we have a good conviction rate. 100 casesonly one in resulting in conviction? it is a serious issue with a victim's willingness to report. i recently learned of a disturbing case of jessica hynes. by aeported she was raped coworker who broke into her room , the00 a.m. she said commander called me in a conference and he said he did not believe the offender acted like a gentleman but there was not a reason to prosecute. i was speechless. we have the court date set for several months and two day before, his commander stopped it and later found out the commander had no legal education or background and had only been in command four days. she was transferred to another base and he was given an award.
there are so many instances of this it is astounding to me you do not know them personally or have not seen them. i do not know what to diligence you have done, but there is a real problem. you have 26,000 cases of on wanted sexual contact, sexual assault, rape. we do not know how many of each. --the 3300 or porting case reported cases from last year alone, only one goes to trial. once it goes, we have a good conviction rate. 100 casesonly one in resulting in conviction? it is a serious issue...
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there are so many instances of this it is astounding to me you do not know them personally or have not seen them. i do not know what to diligence you have done, but there is a real problem. you have 26,000 cases of on wanted sexual contact, sexual assault, rape. we do not know how many of each. of the 3300 reported cases from last year alone, only one goes to trial. once it goes, we have a good conviction rate. why is it only one in 100 cases resulting in conviction? it is a serious issue with a victim's willingness to report. so, colonel, i recently learned of a disturbing case of jessica hynes. she reported she was raped by a coworker who broke into her room at 3:00 a.m. she said, the commander called me in a conference and he said he did not believe the offender acted like a gentleman but there was not a reason to prosecute. i was speechless. we have the court date set for several months and two day before, his commander stopped it and later found out the commander had no legal education or background and had only been in command four days. she was transferred to another base and he
there are so many instances of this it is astounding to me you do not know them personally or have not seen them. i do not know what to diligence you have done, but there is a real problem. you have 26,000 cases of on wanted sexual contact, sexual assault, rape. we do not know how many of each. of the 3300 reported cases from last year alone, only one goes to trial. once it goes, we have a good conviction rate. why is it only one in 100 cases resulting in conviction? it is a serious issue with...
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it is astounding to me that the secretary of health and human services won't provide that waiver.not just for this young lady, but for apparently the two other young people who are also on this list and awaiting a lung. as i understand there were three pediatric lung transplants last year. three. so the likelihood of a pediatric lung becoming available for these children is not great at all. we are not asking for her to go to the top of the list, it's to be eligible for the list. from a clinical standpoint her health status would dictate under the rules of organ transplantation would move her to the top of the list if she were allowed to be on the list. so the notion that the secretary of health and human services is protecting some sacrosanct thing so we keep order in the system i disagree with adamantly and i think that the days -- this young girl's days are numbered with her current clinical status. i have yet to see any reason demonstrated to me why the secretary ought not provide that waiver. > question for the doctor. it's been discussed, i believe it's been floated by congr
it is astounding to me that the secretary of health and human services won't provide that waiver.not just for this young lady, but for apparently the two other young people who are also on this list and awaiting a lung. as i understand there were three pediatric lung transplants last year. three. so the likelihood of a pediatric lung becoming available for these children is not great at all. we are not asking for her to go to the top of the list, it's to be eligible for the list. from a...
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supplies that were on board all symbolic compared to the great me that there is for these products of course wheelchairs medical supplies it's astounding that these things are prevented from entering gaza talk about the case as it stands right now because you testified it is then both four years ago one of the four israeli generals who were behind this this brutal attack ever held accountable and what they've you know the four generals that have been identified by the suit that has been brought by the survivors and families of those that were killed. the suits still going on and the testimony of over two hundred of the passengers on all of the ships has been taken by the the criminal court in istanbul the four officers have retired now one of the good things about this is that they can't really travel because their arrest warrants that are put out for them and it is important that we try to use legal means to go after people who are violating international law and particularly those that are in charge of making plans to murder and execute people and you mentioned that an american citizen had been killed turkish american citizen has the
supplies that were on board all symbolic compared to the great me that there is for these products of course wheelchairs medical supplies it's astounding that these things are prevented from entering gaza talk about the case as it stands right now because you testified it is then both four years ago one of the four israeli generals who were behind this this brutal attack ever held accountable and what they've you know the four generals that have been identified by the suit that has been brought...
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is it just me or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous? rand paul of kentucky says in part an astounding assault on the constitution. that's what he referred to it as. there was this from republican senator lindsey graham. >> i'm a verizon customer. it doesn't bother me one bit that the national security administration has my phone number. >> let us bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. obviously, pete, a lot of moving parts but at this point people greatly want to hear from the white house and how they perhaps will explain even if they can at this point the information that the guardian is reporting. >> well, they've talked around it because it is a classified program, but there doesn't seem to be much secret based on what the white house administration officials and members of congress are saying that what we have seen in this "guardian" document is a little silver into this practice that's been going on for years, authorized by congress, briefed to members of congress, and sent up in documents that all members of the house and senate were welcome to see. you see laid
is it just me or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous? rand paul of kentucky says in part an astounding assault on the constitution. that's what he referred to it as. there was this from republican senator lindsey graham. >> i'm a verizon customer. it doesn't bother me one bit that the national security administration has my phone number. >> let us bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. obviously, pete, a lot of moving parts but at this point people...
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astounding. so, other than that, it was a very slow going process. i found it an exciting process. the idea -- someone asked me the floor, was it fun? yes. a great amount of fun. what was even more fun was when i was see a picture partially completed, i get so involved in the minutia of doing buttons, would say come on a uniform and after an hour i back away from the computer, roll the chair back from a desktop a little bit . well, that looks pretty good. 10 percent down. now 90 more% to go. [laughter] >> perseverance has always been one of my things. so i did persevere. and it is very satisfying to me to have an idea like this that comes to fruition and is eight successful idea. but i have had so much help with so many people. mr. wilson, ms. green, the people at sterling. they have just been so wonderful. they saw this thing. they immediately got it. they get it before the public. again, the job that they did on printing this, on the large format, the quality of the printing is just astounding. i'm not sure i have a whole lot more to say about the book, but i would be welcome to open up for questions. >> let
astounding. so, other than that, it was a very slow going process. i found it an exciting process. the idea -- someone asked me the floor, was it fun? yes. a great amount of fun. what was even more fun was when i was see a picture partially completed, i get so involved in the minutia of doing buttons, would say come on a uniform and after an hour i back away from the computer, roll the chair back from a desktop a little bit . well, that looks pretty good. 10 percent down. now 90 more% to go....