in washington acting atf director and assistant u.s.ttorney general brewer are believed to have approved the program. at the attorney general holder and president obama claimed they knew nothing. some investigators believe otherwise. acting atf director melson took a demotion at the department of justice. dennis burke resigned. the person accountable for day-to-day operations assistant u.s. attorney hurley was reassigned to a lesser job. >> sean: we dive into the issue who knew what, when and would -- could the scandal affect holder's career at the justice department? every baby plays by his own rules. and they need a diaper that lets them do it. adapt at theaist, legs and bottom ♪ for all the freedom to play their way. pampers. it's time to play. diabetes testing? it's all the same. nothing changes. then try this. freestyle lite® blood glucose test strip. sure, but it's not gonna-- [beep] wow. yep, that's the patented freestyle zipwik™ design. did it just-- [both] target the blood? yeah, drew it right in. the test starts fast. you need

in washington acting atf director and assistant u.s.ral brewer are believed to have approved the program. at the attorney general holder and president obama claimed they knew nothing. some investigators believe otherwise. acting atf director melson took a demotion at the department of justice. dennis burke resigned. the person accountable for day-to-day operations assistant u.s. attorney hurley was reassigned to a lesser job. >> sean: we dive into the issue who knew what, when and would -- could ♪ or wrong way. every baby plays by his own rules. and they need a diaper that lets them do it. adapt at theaist, legs and bottom ♪ for all the freedom to play their way. pampers. it's time to play. [ thunder rumbles ] what is the sign of a good decision? in the world of personal finance, it's massmutual. find strength and stability in a company that's owned by its policyholders. ask your advisor, or visit massmutual.com. i ow what works differently than many other allergy medications. nas. omnaris, to the nose. did you know nasal symptoms like

here's what the atf agents did. they sat outside gun shops in the southwest where they knew these straw buyers were buying 10, 15 ak-47s at a time and going across the border into mexico. they're sitting out there doing surveillance, knowing these guys are bad guys. they were literally calling their superiors, let me arrest them now, let me take them down now. their orders were, no, let's let them walk across the border with the guns. that's where they lost track of the guns because there was no way once they went across the border to know where those guns were. now, the information from yet another letter, right? this one written to a gun shop owner is informing the gun shop the atf is going to send in an agent to buy four pistols for official duties. we now know these too were purchased as part of fast and furious. not only were they tracking the guns purchased legally, they were also buying guns with taxpayer dollars and allowing those to go across the border as well. >> so again, clarify why the atf would purcha

here's what the atf agents did. they sat outside gun shops in the southwest where they knew these straw buyers were buying 10, 15, ak-47s at a time and going across the border into mexico. they're sitting out there doing surveillance, knowing these guys are bad guys. they were literally calling their superiors, let me arrest them now, let me take them down now. their orders were, no, let's let them walk across the border with the guns. that's where they lost track of the guns because there was no way once they went across the border to know where those guns were. now, the information from yet another letter, this written to a gun shop owner is informing the gun shop the atf is going to send in an agent to buy four pistols for official duties. we now know these too were purchased as part of fast and furious. not only were they tracking the guns purchased legally, they were also buying guns with taxpayer dollars and allowing those to go across the border as well. >> so again, clarify why the atf would purchase these w

. >> greta: coming up, blistering new problems for the atf tonight.until you hear who paid for the illegal guns atf send to the hands of the murdering mexican cartels. senator chuck grassley goes on the record. >>> a woman decapitated and her body dumped on the side of the road, a chilling note found next to her body meant to scare everyone, and it does. we'll tell you who she is and give you the story ahea to be more environmentally aware, we are now printing on the back sides of used paper. and we switched to fedex 'cause a lot of their packaging contains recycled materials. tell them what else fedex does. well we're now using more electric trucks and lower emission planes. we even offer a reusable envelope. now, can't we at least print on the back sides of used paper? what's the executive compensation list...? [ male announcer ] sustainable solutions. fedex. solutions that matter. montrose, california. ♪ in here, anarchy meets order. working with at&t, doctors set up a broadband solution to handle data and a mobility app to stay connected with thei

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atf personnel based in mexico have testified before the committee. >> the atf agents were following knownrs away and letting them go. that is insane. >> atf officials based in mexico during the after the and furious program last year have said they were never told about it at the time. and a mexican official familiar with the case tells us the mexican attorney general's office says it was not informed of the program while it was going on. we could get no response from the justice department to that. wolf? >> brian todd, thanks very much. that's all the time we have. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer. join us weekdays in "the situation room" from 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. eastern, every saturday at 6:00 p.m. eastern and at this time every weekend on cnn international. on cnn international. the news continues next on cnn. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ what are you looking at? don't look up there. why are you looking up? ♪ get outta the car. get outta the car. ♪ are you ok? the... get in the car. get in the car! [ male announcer ] the epa estimated 42 mpg highway chevy cruze

>> i would be surprised in our experience at the atf, they require authorities outside of atf. up considering the violence in mexico and the violence on the border? but the project itself was well within the rights of the director to essentially approve or to reject. kelly: by something went horribly wrong, we have the death of a border patrol agent to prove that. as a former atf director how do you clean up this mess? >> what happened yesterday, a new directive. atf needs a fresh start in terms of its leadership. by all accounting jones is the right tern at this point in time. the folks are hard working, conscientious, take their obligations extremely seriously. they have been pummeled by decisions made above their level. to the credit of the atf agents, many of them spoke up and said this is horribly wrong. and i think for years to come folks are going to be holding their breath as firearms are recovered at crime scenes as part of this fast and furious debacle. kelly: i spoke with the former mexico's president have i sent fox and he said he was angry. he said this is somethin

they said it was the atf to blame her.hey conducted a sting -rpbgs thesting, they tracked this guy, they gave him parts he was supposed to take to mexico. atf lost the guy and that's where all the trouble started. it's like the two agencies of the federal government doing this to each other. >> megyn this is one of these things where the facts matter. atf wanted to arrest him before he crossed the border. doj wanted him to be able to cross the border. he was lost on the mexican side of the border which is outside of the atf's jurisdiction. he should never have been allowed to traffic across the united states border into mexico. it shouldn't have happened. that's what was wrong with this operation, the doj let explosives walk. megyn: it's incredible when you get a behind the scenes view of what is going on particularly on the southern border sometimes. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you megyn. megyn: employees at an ohio minimart winning $99 million after pooling their money for lottery tickets. whoo-hoo. see ho

cheer bill knew. -- atf chief bill knew. >> he those was helping the good guys. idea those guns were going to crime scenes in the u.s. and mexico. >> reporter: the lead atf agent implicates the fbi in fast and furious. what he is alluding to is that the fbi had a confidential informant providing money to purchase these guns. it's something they knew, but refused to admit. we asked them, they won't talk about it. say it's under investigation. as for the three guns, two guns. the fbi says there was confusion at the scene. one of their agents mixed up one type of weapon with another. others believe there are documents as well as the testimony or at least the conversation of this agent that say there are three guns there, not two. it's a big deal because if they are concealing evidence, that's something the congressman is trying to get at and the fbi has not revealed it to them. that's where we are on that. later day we are expecting information coming out of washington regarding these tapes that were given to the targets of the investigation and that may be complica

now the atf says it was a car bomb.ecifics of it we do not know anything yet. we'll look at wires to see if anything new came in. as we get more developments we'll tell you but a car bomb caused this blast in michigan early this morning. jon: two to america's election headquarters. republican presidential candidates are all in florida for tomorrow night's fox news google political debate or heading in that direction. florida a critical state. president obama took it in 2008. how are florida voters leaning right now? shannon bream live in orlando with a look at that. shannon? >> reporter: jon, we're looking at independent voters. it is no secret they're key to winning presidential elections and that is especially true here in florida. in 2008, exit polls showed 52%. independent voters went with president obama helping him to win big. new numbers show us they're feeling bit sketch think how he is doing his job these days. 33% of independent voters here in florida approve the job the president is currently doing but 61% sa

atf personnel based in mexico testified before the committee. >> atf agents were following known guns based in mexico during that fast and furious program last year have said they were never told about it at the time, and a mexican official familiar with the case now tells us the mexican attorney general's office says it was not informed of the program while it was going on. we could get no response from justice department to that. wolf? >> brian, you're also getting some new details that investigators have dug up on one of the alleged buyers of these weapons. >> reporter: that's right. sources on the house oversight and government reform committee tell us one of the so-called straw buyers bought more than 700 guns just on his own, most automatic weapons. they tell us atf tracked these weapons and let them go. the sources tell us the buyer had no source of income, was on food stamps but able to purchase more than 700 guns. >> that's pretty incredible. all right. brian, i know you'll keep digging for us. >>> two american hikers have finally been freed from an iranian prison. lisa sylv

the operation began in the atf's phoenix field division in the fall of '09. now the atf says it cannot account for nearly three-quters of the firearms sold to snugglers through the program. -- smugglers through the program. check out our web site, foxnews.com, there you can find the documents that detail the role the atf played in buying and selling these weapons as part of this program. >>> well, on capitol hill lawmakers have narrowly dodged a government shutdown for now. congress reaching a deal on a stopgap spending bill before this friday's deadline. but with it set to expire in about six weeks, the next governmentunding crisis could be just around the corner. just when we were about to heave a sigh of relief. fox business network's peter barnes joins us live now from washington. hey, peter. >> reporter: hey, megyn. this whole fight over avoiding a government shutdown focused on emergency disaster funding for fema which was supposed to run out of relief money by today, as you'll recall. but yesterday fema basically bailed itself out and wailed politician

agent in the fast & furious case, they secretly taped hope mccallister after being convinced the atf lying to him about stopping the guns he sold before they reached members of the mexican cartels. >> he was acting under the direct supervision of the department of justice and atf. he thought he was making the difference, and that these people were being arrested and that there were going to be indictments, and that there were going to be prosecutions. >> larry gatos is howard's lawyer, saying lone wolf sold more than 1000 weapons to buyers, including those used to kill border agent brian terry. >> agent terry terry's death jut brought just a tremendous amount of i guess regret and sorrow and disappointment, disgust. >> whistleblower agent larry alt is speaking out for the first time after mccallister disparaged his family in one of the recordings. here he says the fbi found three guns at terry's murder scene, not two as the agency claims. >> there are three weapons. >> three weapons, i know that. >> three weapons. >> and all three. >> that's correct. >> two came from the store. >> th

however new records show atf actually bought weapons using taxpayer money, sold them to cartel buyersthe guns disappeared into mexico. >> made no sense to us either. it was what we wered do to do. >> reporter: considered according to the atf letter they gave the agent $250 in petty cash to buy two handguns from the lone wolf trading company in phoenix. he received another 1700 to by four more at a second store. he instructed dodson to sell the guns but instead of moving in and busting the buyer, the atf watched him drive away. sources say mexican police have never recovered the guns. after dodson went public another supervisor tried to discredit him disclosing he sold guns to the cartels. >> remember you guns you gave them? that was dodson. >> oh i know. >> he purchased firearms as a straw purchaser and gave them to the bad guy. >> reporter: 60 street irregularses, the examiner and were among the first to report the scandal allowing current atf agent to go public without revealing their identities. >> it is a testament to the power of the internet and the ability to network. >> report

. >> there is not a lot of information but we are working closely with atf establishing the trail of the weapons, where they came from and how they ultimately arrived in our suspect's hands. >> reporter: police recovered a pistol and some version of an ak-47 which the sheriff said was the primary weapon. his family is claiming, it is not clear those made it to medical records. everybody is shocked because they didn't have a murder suspect last year. edwardo sencion lives in carson city but has a business in south lake tahoe and were commuting to that business from carson city. his parents had been in mexico on vacation and the sheriff said they returned home last night. kraig debro ktvu channel 2 news. >> we will be following this story throughout the morning and throughout the day and you can get any information by going to www.ktvu.com. >>> a test in san mateo county, in pacifica, we will find out why this test will be different than ones in the past, alex? >> reporter: this will be a full volume test to make sure tsunami sirens can be heard across a broad area here on the san mate

the atf is now investigating. >> what i heard was explosions all of a sudden, several different sounds all the same time. >> reporter: for the people suddenly thrust into crisis, their second-guessing, too. >> as soon as i called 911, i grabbed my pistol. i wish i shot the guy when he was going into ihop. >> reporter: the rampage has shaken people's nerves here. >> we're a resilient society. >> reporter: but the sheriff says he's confident the community will eventually recover. >> we rebuild. but we don't forget. >> reporter: i'm david wright for "nightline" in carson city, nevada. >> too many questions and too few answers. >>> just ahead, a startling twist in the case of an american woman who disappeared last month in aruba. what her companion did to renew the suspicion of authorities. i love this time of year but my nose doesn't. it gets stuffed up and that means i stay up all night. good mornings? not likely! i've tried the pills, the sprays even some home remedies. then i tried something new. [ male announcer ] drug-free breathe righthtasal strips. [ woman ] you just put it on and.

secondly, investigators say the atf could have arrested the straw buyer, before he bought the weaponled brian terry. but, they chose not to. according to a letter from congressman darrell issa and senator charles grassley, they say assistant u.s. attorney tried to conceal the fact that apparently engaged in communications in the hours after agent terry's death that both contemplated the connection and sought to prevent the connection from being disclosed and there are allegations the u.s. attorney's office tried to stop atf agents from stopping the guns going to mexico and they retaliated against the whistleblowers and finally, even after the operation was apparently shut down, the atf in phoenix was trying to buy a 50 caliber weapon that they would have then represented and sold to the cartel representatives. martha? martha: this gets deeper and deeper, all the time. william, thank you. you laid it out really well for us and we appreciate the update on the new developments on fast and furious, senator chuck grassley, also at the center of the investigation, he will join us, less tha

sro*t then instructed dodd kohn to sell the guns but instead of moving in and busting the buyer the atfatched him drive by. saves -- sources say mexican police never recovered the gun. >> remember the guns, that was dodson. >> oh i know. >> he purchased firearms as a straw purchaser and gave them to the bad guy. that was john dodson. >> the examiner and cleanup atf.org were among the first to report this scandal, allowing current atf agents to go public without revealing their identities. >> it's a testment really to the power of the internet and the ability to network. >> reporter: this case involved the same agents, the same store and same supervisors but a different defendant than the 20 indicted in fast & fuous, agent dodson claims he watched this location where the guns were stashed for a week. finally when a car showed up to retrieve them his boss refuse to give him backup and the guns disappeared. jenna: more on this story as we get it, some shocking developments there, william, thank you very much. jon: politics now, rick perry's campaign is trying to paint mitt romney as a flip

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that's specifically what the atf is work on.oth of those rifles were apparently modified assault rifles which usually means there's some kind of automatic capability in them. so what is he doing with three weapons, why only using one? what was he doing in the first place? what was the motive? they don't know. >> joe vazquez in carson city, thanks. >>> president obama delivers a major speech on thursday before a joint session of congress about how he hopes to put americans back to work. his republican rivals are unveiling their own jobs plane ahead of the speech. mitt romney said today that mr. obama isn't a bad guy but his economic ideas have failed. danielle nottingham has details of romney's solutions. >>> reporter: republican presidential hopeful mitt romney announced his new job plan in nevada. a state with almost 13% unemployment. >> america should be a job machine. jobs being created all the time. >> reporter: he said relying on government to create jobs is not the solution. >> it is instead to create the conditions that a

do you think the atf have been accomplices to murder?tely. >> you're saying what they were doing is criminal? >> absolutely. not just these individual agents, but people up the chain of command who have made the decision, the u.s. attorney for arizona just resigned. and this is a big deal. now it is one step away from eric holder. this is his department of justice, and there are people who have lost their lives. >> we'll have more ahead. and how this ill conceived operation was more poorly executed and may have caused that border patrol agent his life. also tonight, michael jackson's personal doctor on trial for involuntary manslaughter. we're going to hear from dr. sanjay gupta, inside information on the defense strategy and mark geragos and marcia clark. those stories and tonight's ridiculous at the top of the hour. back to you, john. >> see you in a few minutes. thank you. we woke up today thinking the presidential campaign voting kicked off 130 days from now. the iowa caucuses. but now a bold and controversial manufacture move by flo

atf memo says any person who uses or addicted to marijuana is unlawful user of or addicted to controlled substance and prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition. >> more about responsibility than anything owning a weapon i mean. >> new directive flies in the face of promise by the obama administration 2 creditors agatha the feds would in the target medical marijuana users and providers who abide by state law. it looks to me like this is beginning of coordinated campaign. i can't imagine why obama administration would want patients who are legally entitled to have cannabis to go out to criminals and bite on the street. >>reporter: some people don't question the wisdom:00 a allowing patients who smoke pot to have gun. >> if you treat it like medication to impair you that's what it is. probably shouldn't be shooting a handgun. >>reporter: gun rights suppor supporters walter stanley who legally carries his weapon in the open is on the side of medical marijuana users. >> further example of how the war on drugs is being used to marginalize and violent our individual righ

but instead of moving in and busting the buyer, the atf watched him drive away.doddson went public, another supervisor tried to discredit him by disclosing he sold guns to the cartels. >> where were the guns you gave him? he purchased firearms as a straw purchaser. that was doddson. >> some web sites were among the first to report the scandal, allowing current atf agents to go public without revealing their identities. >> it's a test to the power of the internet and the ability to network. >> this case involved the same agents, the same store, the same methods, but a different defendant than the 20 of those indicted in fast and furious. agent doddson said he watched this storage facility for a week, when a car showed up to take the guns to mexico, he called for surveillance and back up and it was refused and the guns disappeared south. gretchen. >> gretchen: all right. william lajeunesse, great reporting. thanks so much for keeping us up to date on that story. >>> guess what? there is an elephant in our living room! parents, stick around. the elephant teaming up

atf memo says any person who uses or addicted to marijuana is unlawful user of or addicted to controlled substance and prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition. >> more about responsibility than anything owning a weapon i mean. >> new directive flies in the face of promise by the obama administration 2 creditors agatha the feds would in the target medical marijuana users and providers who abide by state law. it looks to me like this is beginning of coordinated campaign. i can't imagine why obama administration would want patients who are legally entitled to have cannabis to go out to criminals and bite on the street. >>reporter: some people don't question the wisdom:00 a allowing patients who smoke pot to have gun. >> if you treat it like medication to impair you that's what it is. probably shouldn't be shooting a handgun. >>reporter: gun rights support >>reporter: gun rights supporters walter stanley who legally carries his weapon in the open is on the side of medical marijuana users. >> further example of how the war on drugs is being used to marginalize and vio

the house to talk about it and he did not respond to our requests for a jail house interview, but the atf agents who handled the case told us he was not acting out of disperration. >> why do you think somebody like this was willing to commit this cream. >> it was just greed. >> now, he -- it has a new name and new management, who showed us two recently renovated floors. >> fixtures, light figures thursday. >> but downstairs where it's attached to a restaurant, people are still talking about what could have happened if it wasn't for the informant wearing this hidden camera. [ audio difficulty ] >> to prevent that type of violence where people's lives are saved is very satisfying for our organization. >>> new video tonight as oakland police investigate another homicide on a city street. it happened about 7:20 tonight. someone shot a man who was sitting in his car. details are sketchy but it appears the shots were fired from outside the vehicle. there is no word on the victim's identity or the motive for the shooting. >>> the father of the man expected of killing a councilman last weekend th

i personally believe this atf program, which i understand they're trying to get to higher levels, not well thought out program, but i have asked all the state attorney generals and the federal attorneys general where they think legalization of marijuana or even other drugs would bring a significant and it to the violence raging -- a significant end to the violence in mexico when the drug market dries up, they kidnap people. when they have a level of corruption, until we get meaningful changes in the mexican criminal justice system, it is a non-fire down there. they are in charge of the country and they will do whatever they needed it to make money. >> people oftentimes say that if you legalize drugs, the gangsters will go to other businesses. but the fact of the matter is, they go to other businesses anyway. the number one thing you need to go into other businesses is capital. the number one source of capital in mexican cannes is the illegal drug business. -- and mexican -- in mexican cartels is the illegal drug business. the former president has said the legalization is the only way

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there is an agreement with atf to work together more closely to do something about the problem.ve than an idea how bad it is, there are 3,000 seized weapons at oakland police department and many of them will be used as evidence in trials. live in oakland, terry mcsweeney "abc 7 news." >> san jose police officer arrested for molesting underaged boys is due to face charges in court today. gilroy police arrested officer patrick durego when he arrived to work on wednesday. they say he molested 15 and 17-year-old victims during parties at his home in gilroy and he also served alcohol to the boys. he may have molested other teens. he worked as campus officer at san jose's leland high school for 11 years. >> a dangerous start to the school year for students at u.c. berkeley, a string of crimes have been reported on or near campus including several sexual assaults. they say they often see a spike in crime around the start of the school year due to the sudden influx of returning students. arrests have been made in each of the sexual assault incidents. classes resumed last week zbleek ano

the house to talk about it and he did not respond to our requests for a jail house interview, but the atf agents who handled the case told us he was not acting out of disperration. >> why do you think somebody like this was willing to commit this cream. >> it was just greed. >> now, he -- it has a new name and new management, who showed us two recently renovated floors. >> fixtures, light figures thursday. >> but downstairs where it's attached to a restaurant, people are still talking about what could have happened if it wasn't for the informant wearing this hidden camera. [ audio difficulty ] >> to prevent that type of violence where people's lives are saved is very satisfying for our organization. >>> new video tonight as oakland police investigate another homicide on a city street. it happened about 7:20 tonight. someone shot a man who was sitting in his car. details are sketchy but it appears the shots were fired from outside the vehicle. there is no word on the victim's identity or the motive for the shooting. >>> the father of the man expected of killing a councilman last weekend th

this is american citizen, the atf not saying much about the case except they're looking into it.hat we do know the mexican attorney general's office says 40-year-old. jean baptist kingery, that is the american citizen held on charges that he was buying weapons and grenade parts here in the u.s. and then smuggling them into mexico and then selling them to these big-time drug cartels there. he was apparently buying the stuff in stores and online. the cartels used the grenades apparently all the time including a week and a half ago when they carried out an attack at a popular casino that killed over 50 people trapped inside. the drug dealers also used them to go after the police in mexico and to intimidate locals. kingery was detained in arizona in june of 2010 and then released. there are some reports, jenna, that authorities were using him as part of a sting operation. we can not confirm that right now. still a lot of questions about this guy. as we get more details biel pass them along to you. jenna: wow, that would be another twist in a story already a strange one. rick, thank y

and in the words of the atf outgoing director there was concern that they were doing things to coverolitical appoint i^s were are doing. you are talking about thousands of guns that were allowed to walk, get into the hands of criminals. two dead ats. people worried about their own careers rather than making sure that we have the full information in the united states congress and i though that chairman isa and i and trey gold and others are totally making sure that we pursue this to all sends to make sure that that never ever happens again and that the truth is allowed to surface. and thank goodness for the whistle blowers who stepped up to allow us to do this. >> thanks so much for joining us. the house gets back into session this week. almost like going back to school, isn't it? >> pretty serious, yes. thanks, uma. >> take care. >>> libyan rebels surrounded one of qaddafi's last strongholds. will' tay akron o they attack r surrender? is live report coming to you from tripoli. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is the network. a network of possibilities. excuse me? my grandfather

his atf people didn't foe it. his dea people didn't know it. they were kept in the dark so they wouldn't tell the -- they were kept in the dark so they wouldn't tell the ambassador. >> greta: tell me about the tape? tell me what it is who got taped? >> the agent in charge was taped by the licensed gun dealer who was concerned that he was being set-up. that was delivered to the inspector general in june. specifically, as part of cooperation. within virtually minutes, without the inspector general ever listening to the tape, it was forwarded to the justice department. who then forwarded it to the object of the investigation, the actual agent in charge. meaning, it became an obstruction of our investigation by the people we were looking to help us with our investigation. greta: justice knew about it in june. when did you learn about this tape that tracks this episode of selling guns? >> we knew about it. we had copies of it. >> greta: how soon? >> we had it before june. part of what we were doing. i know you have a strong history as an attorney. w

could you imagine the outrage at the atf scandal, fast and furious, solyndra half a billion dollars?ection between the government changed the mandates of the legislation so that the investors were treated more favorly than the taxpayer if bankruptcy took place. the investors who are also part of the obama campaign team, got in front of the taxpayers when it came to this bankruptcy. somebody must have almost anticipated a bankruptcy. if you naught in the could have of the deal. -- finish if you put that in the coven nance of the deal. >> sean: imagine if it was discovered that scrub had invested in enron. it would be a massive scandal. here's what we learned in 2005, then senator obama invested 100 tkpwrapbld the company changed its name to lightsquared. trying to get a four star general to change his testimony. >> and we've learned that the chair of the fcc which gave the fast track to the same company you're talking about was a great campaign donor and bundler and bunk for barack obama. let me channel sarah palin in this regard. how is that hope and change working for you? we have a

. >> what does atf stand for. >> at the booth. >> food fight. >> i cannot remember what that stands forlcohol tobacco and firearms. >> i just feel a little funny. >> you can name for me the jersey shore cath members. >> jayy wow ron in. >> i i i am impressed with you. >> you can name obama's cabinet? >> what's a cabinet? >> i'm an embarrassment. >> this is quite a speck tack kepple. what is this for again. >> drinking, partying and getting themselves in trouble. >> some the girls get crazy in the hot tub is that how it is it jersey shore. >> i am from here i never do that. >> you don't pass out drunk and get arrested. >> i never get arrested. >> just pass out drunk. >> sometimes. >> do you think their behavior sends the wrong message to kids? >> the show is on at 10:00 so i will say no. >> you have to teach your kids morals and values. >> were you upset when you see them behave so disrespectfully on the show. >> hell no, i'm just as crazy as they are. [bleep] >> not exactly role models for the children. >> snooki is not your role model? >> no. >> once i get the spotlight, it's going to

this administration is now under investigation for not only solyndra, fast and furious, the botched atfepartment gun running scandal. >> bill: operation, sure. >> light squared, the deal in which we are talking about billions of dollars as you and geraldo were talking about but my god that is absolutely political interference with a four star general testifying before the congress. >> bill: that's the agencies from the general. the four star general we believe. not a good week for the obama administration. >> we can put. >> bill: this has not been a good five days. where is the president? do we know where he is? i think is he back at march that's vineyard. >> he should be. what i find interesting, bill, we can't find the jobs bill credit to congressman -- >> bill: maybe they can find it in one of their aids. i'm being a wise guy. sorry. while everyone else is suffering. our pal al gore he is doing real good. >> he is. he is having a great time generational management. his. >> generational investment management. it invests in green companies. >> bill: companies getting loans from the fed

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this atf agent on lawson's felony record. >> in this particular case, was the defendant found guilty. convicted of rape 18 years before. it was for some members of the jury deeply troubling. now the idea that bethany may have been killed during a sexual assault seemed obvious in a way it hadn't before. when we stood up to walk out, the deliberations. i had tears in my eyes, i was so angry, very angry. i was very distraught about the fact that we didn't know, but i feel wouldn't have gotten a fair trial if he had known if we did. >> this time it was just five minutes to a verdict, guilty. and the correiras were back in the courtroom six months later to find out what mike lawson's future would hold. >> mr. lawson, i sentence you i to 99 years. >> the maximum allowed for second-degree murder, which just happened to be the same as the maximum for first degree. and thus, the correiras, seemingly endless prospect of appeals finally finished. he's an unusual man. hiez billy correira. he long since decided to take seriously his deeply felt religious belief and says he has forgiven the man who

>> it is atf which was the principal agencies involved. if you are asking about who beyond atf and agents on the ground and others in the supervisory line that is being investigated by the inspector general's office and i am not privy to their findings today. >> we leave it all to the inspector general has to their conclusions. u.s. director don't have any role? >> we do not have a role in that particular aspect of the investigation. we have a very important role in bringing to justice those persons responsible for the death of the agent. >> but you are awaiting an inspector general's report. >> not on that. we are pursuing the investigation who is responsible and what weapons were used in the killing of the border patrol agent. >> what conclusions have you arrived at? >> there are submissions made in court in support of -- i would have to get back to you where it is in terms of charging somebody. >> it would be nice if you get back to me but we have a dead border patrol agent. we have a situation which at least for a perk of time was out

we have the atf involved, trying to determine how the 32-year-old came to have two assault rifles and a pistol with him and why he walked into this pancake house and fired at a table of five uniformed members of nevada's national guard. >> this is a tragic event. the word targeting suggests we have a motive. we don't have a motive yet. >> reporter: residents of nevada's capital city are struggling to understand why anyone would turn an assault weapon on their hometown. they held a candlelight vigil last night and flags around the state have been lowered. his family not saying much, but according to federal sources relatives say he did have a long history of merntal illness. that will certainly be a factor as this investigation unfold. sheriff's officials saying as far as they can tell he did not have any links to terrorist groups, no known connection to the international house of pancakes and he did not appear to know his victims. bill: could the death toll go higher? >> reporter: one of the other victims, a woman shot outside the restaurant is in very serious condition. she was shot

>> the change was made with the best in -- best interest of atf at heart. a leadership change was appropriate to allow the men and women at atf to focus on their critical mission and to make sure we had the leadership in place that would be helpful in that regard. todd jones is a great assistant united states attorney. he will bring wonderful leadership to the atf. i spoke to ken about the need for the change. he agreed with me. ken has served his department well over the course of three decades. he has a particular expertise in the forensic area. we can take advantage of that expertise. >> who else at the justice department approved the botched operation? >> we have an inspector general operation and we will see exactly who was involved, who made the decisions in what was a lot enforcement effort. the notion that this reaches into the upper levels of the justice department is something that i do not think is supported by the facts. as the facts are real, we will see that is not the case. we are cooperating with the investigation. we have made people availa

that's according to the atf, the bureau of alcohol, bureau of and specifically last week forbidding themons to anyone that says that they are a regular marijuana user. gun rights groups and pro marijuana groups both claim that policy goes against the second amendment. marijuana used under a doctor's supervision is legal in 16 states as well as washington, d.c. >>> we've heard politicians and pundits debating warren buffett's take on taxing the rich. but we will hear from the billionaire himself right here next. >>> billionaire warren buffett has the president's ear and now he's talking to krmplt nn. our alison kosik went one on one with the buffett enthe trading floor. what does he have to say about the buffett rule? >> he wanted to clarify what he meant and saying that it's going only to affect a small portion of the population. president obama came out wanting to behoove the rich in paying more and millionaires, crying foul about this, don't lump them in with buffet who is clearly a billionaire and in a class above everybody else but said that it will affect only a small portion of mil