the fbi and the atf on scene. and i asked the sheriff if he asked for that help? he said it was a little bit of both; that he recognized that they would need the extra help, and that people in other agencies also recognized as soon as they heard the extent of this incident, knew that they would need help here as well. so federal agents came in from portland, state police was on the scene as well, so a massive response. we heard yesterday 70 to 75 people on the ground at the scene looking into things. and later in the evening they dissended on an apartment building in an area called winchester an unincorporated place outside of roseburg, not too far from campus, and that was where they additionally found more weapons, believe. press briefing delayed just a little bit. the building behind me just packed with county, city officials, law enforcement and people from the media from all over the world at this point. we're looking at some explanation, and so often it's so hard to find and grasp a reason at this point. we have heard from several people, and there have been

at this time, i would like to introduce atf assistant special agent in charge salinas, nunez. >> good morning. i wanted to provide information on the weapons we have in custody is to far. so far we have recovered 13 weapons. out of those 13 weapons, we currently have in custody six were recovered at the school, seven were recovered at the shooter's residence, all 14 have been traced to a federal firearms dealer, they are all at different stages currently in the tracing process. eight of the 14 have been traced to first trace purchasers. seven have been purchased by the shooter or a family member. all within the last three years. in addition to the weapons recovered, we also were able to recover a flank jacket which we recovered lying next to the rifle at the school. the jacket had steal plates along with five magazines. an additional amount of ammunition was also recovered at the apartment. i also want to thank our phoenix field division, and our north carolina field division, and our l.a. field division for working dill gently in obtaining this tracing information for us. >> did you

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this is coordinate with the atf agents who were also on the scene. they sent out another tweet of information saying they'd send out information from portland to the k-9 team to the campus of umpqua. >> thomas roberts, thank you. we're working to get the coverage of kgw television on to our air. they have switched presumably to nonstop local coverage as well. this is going to be a terrible shock to the surrounding region. we've been showing the map. its relationship to portland, oregon, really well south and the central portion of the state. but as you can imagine an entire state is coming to grips with what has happened here. kate snow? >> on the i-5 corridor. i actually know it pretty well. my sister lives in portland. north of medford, three quarters of the way down the state. it's a rural area. i was out this last summer. it is not a hugely populated area. as we said on the air, 20,000 people live in that area. just to recap, the oregon office of emergency management telling nbc news now that initial reports indicate that seven to ten people were

. >> dawn breaks on a cloudy morning in late february as the atf prepares for the raid on the branch davidian property. >> waco, texas, baby. >> what was supposed to happen was they were supposed to arrest david and any people who resisted. >> agents planned to take advantage with the element of surprise by converging on the group while the men worked outside, but they never get the chance. >> they learn that the guys probably wouldn't be outside that morning because it had rained and the shelter they were digging was all mud. there was nobody outside working. >> this is not developing the way it's supposed to develop. something's gone wrong. there are all kinds of clear signs that this was not going to happen, and they made a fatal wrong decision, which was to proceed. >> i had woken up kind of late, and david koresh came down the stairs, and there were three or four of the guys with him. and they said, now, everybody, they're coming. they're on their way. don't anybody do anything stupid. we're going to go talk to them and try to work this out. >> suddenly gunfire rips through the

at atf, we also held up law-abiding citizens right for firearms. we got calls all the time this guy shouldn't have a gun and we would say no, he's legally allowed to have it. there's nothing you can do. aps right to have a gun. we didn't take sides politically. of course, each side would accuse you of taking sides. we tried to enforce the law out of fear of favor and tried to direct it right at criminals, fugitives, whoever it was that had the guns, we could interrupt the crime, you know, moving forward. a lot can be done in that area. a lot can be done in the mental health area. mental health restraining orders, that could really help. training across the board. recognizing symptoms. so many things could be done. the president is frustrating. he's right. if we go through the next selection and congress stays the same, there will be no change. i've watch this had for four decades. the point chris matthews made talking about the history was so important. the thing that was missed -- chris didn't miss it. it was the next part of the conversation was

the fbi is there as well as atf and canine units. they have been going room to room making sure that there are no bombs or booby-traps. we're being told the threat is being investigated but the mitigation into how this happened and why this happened, wolf, is very active at this hour. >> no indication what was said yet at least we don't know on the social media postings? >> well, he apparently warned about opening fire. that he was unhappy and that this was what he was going to do. he basically said according to officials if i were you i wouldn't go to school today if you're in this area. apparently alluding to what he was going to do. unclear how many people saw this if this was really a warning that should have been heeded and that the right folks, law enforcement, the community, the school, we don't know if they saw that. it was just on a blog on a social immediate kra website online. we also, wolf, heard frtd officials who are investigating this case. they spoke at a news conference moments ago. here's what we learned at that. >>

the irony of it is, and he has been atf -- former atf agent on his staff. the irony is, he has cut back -- he and his colleagues have helped cut back funding for the atf. they have the same staff that they had 40 years ago. they have less enforcement officers within the d.c. police do, and he is telling me that we need to enforce these laws. meanwhile, he cuts funding for the atf. it is hypocrisy. it is duplicity. and frankly, he has blood on his hands. he takes money from the nra. it is the same with michael mccaul who supposed to be protecting us as the house chairman for homeland security. and i watched him last week right after the oregon shootings. i was on cnn doing an interview and i watched him after mine. the news correspondent noah was interviewing him was trying to pin him down on what can you do? do you want to close these loopholes? is or something you would do? the issue.o round their whole fallback is, it is mental health. it is not a gun problem, it is a mental health problem. sure, it is a mental health problem. we can do things in this cou

let's turn to matthew who ras at fjc security, former atf agent himself.hank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> you have experience with an investigation like this. what's happening now on the ground in oregon as atf agents pour in from around the country? >> well, you know, they're evaluating everything from the fll where the guns were legally purchased to who purchased the guns and transferred to the suspect in this case. they're also using the information to go back and go through that manifesto and check the social media and try to determine a cause or a driving factor as to why this happened. also, they're also going to go back and determine if he had purchased or people purchased more guns that may have been in his possession now or in the immediate past. >> and when we talk about six guns in one place, seven guns at home and i think i heard five magazines of ammunition, for those of us who don't know as much about guns as you do or weapons as you do, what kind of an arsenal is that? >> well, you know, it depends on a person who's pro-gun or ant

jennifer, the fbi and the atf put out this warning after that online threat surfaced. >> reporter: yeah, lucy, that's right. fbi and other federal authorities did notify local colleges of a possible threat, and that prompted this. signs notices of enhanced security procedures at several campuses throughout eastern pennsylvania, new jersey and delaware. 2:00 p.m. came and went. all was quite at the community college of philadelphia. >> i feel relieved but still scared a little bit. >> reporter: student gray simon left campus prior to the 2:00 p.m. threat time. she didn't want to take any chances. >> i have a class at 3:00 so i have to come back. >> reporter: the philadelphia police department provided coverage to the community college and others smaller campuses. police commissioner charles ramsay says every threat must be taken seriously. >> you can't ignore it because we got got a lot of idiots in the world then have guns and they'll go and do things like that. >> reporter: campuses including south jersey and delaware sent alerts to students and heightened police patrols. some students

. >> in 47 years not once has the atf the fbi, the state attorney general's office the city police the sheriff's office, not once has the missoula gun show ever been involved in any single thing where any criminal investigation has been brought noort we havfort that we have bd in it. >> reporter: you are saying no official has come to you questioning a gun sale? >> never. >> reporter: supporters say background checks will save lives. with its loose gun laws, montana has the sixth highest rate of gun deaths in the country earning the state a failed grade on the annual report card. >> i think there's a lot of the kind of cowboy mentality that is all around us and there's just a long history and an assumption that everyone has a gun, and there's a big focus on the second amendment and how important that is to daily life. >> yes i do love my family but i also love my second amendment rights which is what most of you are trying to infringe on at this point in time. >> but i don't quite see it the same way. i guess as a mom and just knowing that we can make things safer in mi missoula, with

the response from the atf? thanks, but no thanks. >> the atf agent was just saying, just let us take care of it. so we left mississippi really with nothing. >> reporter: ruvin returned to maryland, wondering if he'd hit another dead-end. he wondered for about a week. it was late june, now more than a year since eric was murdered, when an atf agent called back. >> we found these diaper boxes. we found these records, and we're faxing a receipt. so i was waiting by the fax machine. the fax came through. i looked at the name, and it was katrina ben. she was the last purchaser of that handgun. >> reporter: and you've got her. >> oh, yeah. it was pretty incredible. i was literally jumping up and down. >> reporter: now he just had to you decide. >> and if i was going to do something like this, it would be -- it wouldn't be like this. it wouldn't be stupid. >>> coming up -- was katrina ben a monday night girl? >> a girl who you do not take out, you do not show off and you do not introduce to your friends. murder? >>> e

tonight the investigation moves south as the heart of new york city, atf agents are putting together the pieces of a deadly puzzle. >> right now we're in the crime gone intelligence center. >> every day intelligence analysts track the history of weapons much like this one used kill officer randolph holder. >> right here in this room is where we receive statewide requests for firearms to be traced. >> reporter: veteran atf agent and public information officer charles mulholm cannot talk specifically about sergeant holder's case, but he can talk about how a trace is done. each weapon has a fingerprint at includes -- >> the make, the model, the serial number, the country of origin and the calibe >> reporter: the gun in holder's 2008, at lawman's safety supply in columbia, south carolina. how the gun ended up in east harlem remains unclear. a tra ce follows the chain beginning with the manufacturer, holysail holy holy wholesaler, distributor and seller. >> they can only trace how the gun got to that spot from where it originally came from. >> reporter: it not only reveals the gun's histo

. >> sunday federal officials with the fbi and atf informed schools after post that threatened violence at quote philadelphia area college or university. now, no specific school was name. but according to that post, the threat is supposed to happen on monday october 5th at 2:00 p.m. >> it makes me feel a little bit unsafe. i mean, i have class in the middle of the day. >> i don't think in this instance that this is a very specific threat. >> jj, just retired as a special agent, with the fbi for 26 years. he spent an entire career analyzing threats like this one. >> if there were a more specific threat, if there were more specific information, this wouldn't have gone out like it had. law enforcement, the fbi, atf, other agencies would have been addressing this specific threat. >> local state, federal authorities are taking this threat seriously, working together to investigate. in the meantime, campus leaders have sent out thousands of alerts to student, like this one, from temple, that reads in part: temple police are closely monitoring this situation and keeping in contact with local a

we know that atf agents are en route possibly they have already arrived on the scene of the community college there where the crime scene is being processed. alan, our correspondent is also en route to the scene and he's on the phone with us. alan, what have you learned? >> just some quick updates on the injured. we understand that mercy hospital, mercy medical center in roseburg now confirming that they have nine people that they're treating. don't have the severitity of the injuries being worked on. and they believe they have another three coming to them en route. also to the north in springfield, sacred heart's trauma team is activated immediately when they heard about this shooting and understood the extent of it. we understand that three patients have been helicoptered by life flight, that's the company in this area, to springfield. so we'll assume that springfield and eugene hospitals are ready to accept more patients at this time. just have not heard anything more in terms of how many people were killed in the shooting, continuing to hear that of course there is no longer any k

they've got the atf there.robably doing a background on that weapon now to find out exactly where that weapon came from, how it was purchased, was it a stolen weapon, was it legally purchased, was it purchased in the o orr area, we don't know. we're going to be able to find out that information also. they're going to run bullet -- shell casings through ballistics to see if it was used in a crime before. checking shell casings, how many weapons did he have? two weapons, three weapons. >> did he reload. >> exactly. we're going to be able to tell from the shell casings laying on the ground and be able to recreate the whole shooting as it occurred through the crime scene unit. >> at least ten people killed. at least more than 20 have been wounded here in the school shooting in roseburg, oregon. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me the last two hours. we're going to stay on this. more from this school shooting in oregon jake tapper and "the lead" start right now. >>> this is cnn breaking news. >>

. >> atf and fbi issued the warning. we're told the threat is the not specific accept for timing. local schools are taking proper precautions. "action news" reporter david henry is live at drexel university with much more, david? >> reporter: yeah, walter, all of the university and colleges in the delaware valley are stressing that this is a non-specific threat, but they are all taking it seriously enough to issue warnings, and, students are understandably, alarmed. >> all of the recent things that have been going on, it is like serious that could possibly happen on the campus, so i'm actually scared to leave my dorm tomorrow. >> reporter: college campuses are on edge as word spreads tonight they have been alerted by atf and fbi, all they know is a an unspecific threat was made on social media to carry out violence at a university near philadelphia. but the time mentioned in the threat is very specific. 2:00 o'clock, tomorrow have afternoon. >> it is a kind of scary because, you know, the way it is, just given its history and the fact that we don't know which school and it is very

law enforcement the fbi atf other agencys would have been addressing this specific threat. >> reportererts gone out to thousands of students similar to this message from temple saying, quote, police are closely monitoring the situation and keeping in contact with local and federal officials. temple police had have increased visibility on campus. the university will have normal operations on monday: just want to road a little bit more from the fbi statement. quote: no specific college or university was identified in the postings. we encourage students, faculty and employees at area colleges and university to follow the guidance of campus security officials. fbi will continue to work with our federal state and local law enforcement partners to investigate threats. we ask public to report suspicious act to law enforcement. in most college campuses across the region, it is business as usual. the extra act to pay a little bit more attention. reporting from the campus of temple university. steve patterson. cbs3 "eyewitness news". >>> as investigators try to figure out why christopher harper

there were more specific information, this wouldn't have gone out like it had, law enforcement, fbi, atf, other add agencies would have been addressing this specific threat, if they new one individual had made this threat, they would be investigating that person. and i'm not reading any of that in what we have seen so far. >> reporter: still, this threat is being taken very seriously. again, campus communities all across the delaware valley are being asked to stay alert, report any suspicious activities, and coming up in the next half hour, we will hear from the student body here at temple university about how they feel. so stay with us. reporting live at temple university, jan carabeo, cbs-3, "eyewitness news". >> thank you, can't be too careful. meanwhile, student who was spared by gunman during deadly rampage on oregon college campus, we're learning she received an envelope with flash drive from the shooter then forced to watch as her classmates were killed. pastor randy's daughter was in the class, says christopher sean harper mercer given develop open to another student in the class

your information earlier said that the atf was tracking those weapons as well. what can you tell us -- you've been digging into his background. what do you know about him? >> we're learning at this hour, that he apparently has ties to the area right near the community college where he opened fire. according to our producer who is on the scene, law enforcement officials, a convoy of law enforcement vehicles pulled up to an address that is associated with chris harper mercer, according to public documents we've been looking at. so apparently homeland security is there. there have been law enforcement officials as we've seen in that video in camouflage and in law enforcement jackets. investigating, going into his house, apparently his apartment, and pulling anything they can. his computers, any records, any electronics that could help them piece together what a motive is. what's not clear at this hour is what his ties were to the community college where he opened fire. that is something that investigators are trying to figure out as well as a motive. we have been l

the fbi and atf informed colleges across the region about intercepted threat of violence against quota university near philadelphia. it is supposed to happen at 2:00 p.m. today. that threat was made on social media. >> all little unsafe. i mean, i have class in the middle of the day. >> if there are more specific information, this wouldn't have gone out like it had been. law enforcement, fbi, atf, other agencies would have been addressing this threat. >> threat being taken seriously, alerts have gone out to student g colleges, schools. officials are warning everyone to be on the look-out for anything not ordinary. >> new york university student sent report he had bridge to be released, south korean officials say juan moon ju expected to be handed over to south korea at the border today. he with a detailed in april. the south korean student said he war's dollars by soldiers after crossing into north korea from chin a to make a statement. 's permanent resident. united state, been living in new jersey and studying at ncu. >>> police in delaware county, they're investigating a triple shoot

federal atf agents are joining the investigation into that kansas city fire in which two firefighters died. the the men were killed when a burning building collapsed, trapping them. investigators say there's nothing suspicious about the fire at least initially, but the atf agents will be able to provide special expertise in the investigation. >>> to the mideast now. secretary of state john kerry says the violence between israelis and palestinians must stop. but israel's prime minister says he'll take a series of aggressive steps to stop at tacks against israeli civilians. abc's alex marquardt is in jerusalem. >> reporter: out of nowhere the white car careens onto the sidewalk, ramming into pedestrians, who go flying. the attacker a palestinian man then gets out of the car and starts attacking bystanders with a meat cleaver. an israeli security guard rushes up and shoots the attacker, who collapses. but as a crowd gathers he tries to get up again and keep fighting before being taken down. in the end one victim died in what has been one of the most dramatic incidents in two weeks of rel

. >> sunday, federal officials with the fbi and atf informed schools of post that threaten violence at quote philadelphia area college, or university. now, no specific school was name. but, according to that post, the threat is supposed to happen on monday october 5th, 2:00 p.m. makes me feel un safer. i have class in the middle of the day. >> i don't think in this instance that this is a very specific threat. >> just retired as a special agent to the f.b.i. for 26 years. he spent entire career analyzing threats like this one. >> this wouldn't have gone out like it had, law enforcement, the fbi, atf, other agencies would have been addressing this specific threat. >> local state federal authority are taking this threat seriously and working together to investigate. in the meantime, campus leaders have sent out thousands of alerts to student, like this one, from temple, that reads in part: temple police are closely monitoring this situation, and keeping in contact with local and federal officials. in addition, temple police, will have increased visibility on campus monday, the university

law enforcement the fbi atf other agencys would have been addressing this specific threat. >> reporterssage from temple saying, quote, police are closely monitoring the situation and keeping in contact with local and federal officials. temple police had have increased visibility on campus. the university will have normal operations on monday: just want to road a little bit more from the fbi statement. quote: no specific college or university was identified in the postings. we encourage students, faculty and employees at area colleges and university to follow the guidance of campus security officials. fbi will continue to work with our federal state

as we say, the fbi and atf are already on scene. there is word there is a heavy presence now outside of his apartment in roseburg, oregon. some neighbors have been asked about him saying that he got mad at them, angry at them for smoking. we know very little about him except for the fact that they are now going to be looking at his cell phone. his laptop. his social media footprint. of course, we are doing the same thing. and it appears that this chris harper mercer appears to be very heavily involved in weapons. there is a picture of him on a social media site with a weapon. there are also other pictures of weapons. now there are reports that three or four weapons were found at the scene of today's shooting, including handguns and at least one long gun. one law enforcement official told "the new york times" the shooter appears to be an angry young man filled with hate. again, there is no word of his religion or motive. remember, before the shooting, someone posted a warning message online saying don't go to school tomorrow if you a

we know that atf agents have arrived on the scene with the canine unit,explosives, ammunition, anything else that could help in this investigation and fbi officials are there as well. presumably with evidence response teams, helping the locals with this investigation. right now because we know the threat is mitigated, that this gunman is dead, this 20-year-old male, investigators are going to pore through his social media, pore through anything he has on his cell phones, his laptops to see if there were any warning signs, if anything was missed, any preevent indicators missed along the way. that's what we've seen in so many other cases, erin, that the gunman posted something online prior to the event and someone either didn't call law enforcement or didn't see it in time before something tragic happens like this. >> pamela, thank you very much. pamela continuing to work her sources. we have many reporters working this story trying to understand what this motive was, what exactly happened, this horrific attack. i want to go to luke rogers now, he was there when the shooting happened. luk

increased security at colleges and university across our area, after the the fbi and atf, warns of aedia posting threatening violence. this afternoon. >>> the impact of this he can we even's storm is evident in our shore towns we will tell you where hurricane joaquin is heading right now. >>> and, now they are crushing loss for the eagles, redskins ruled supreme yesterday, and fans want to know what is chip kelly's next move? what do you got coach. >> should he move on. what people to have say about that. >> he's moving on and we're still stuck witt. >> we're still off. >> sue is off today, scotties in, good to see you. >> how are you. >> good. >> alex, you good. >> i'm good. >> let's do this. october the fifth, 2015. so, let's start with a good number of the day after this miserable weekend, the sun came out yesterday afternoon. didn't it feel good. >> it did. >> i almost forgot what the sun looked like. >> we're looking good today. we will give it an eight. bus stop buddy is prepared for the fall chill. temperatures actually in the 40's north and west. lower 50's in the city right

also from the atf.y revealed they have 13 weapons in custody, 6 of which were recovered at the school, 7 were recovered an at the gunman's residence. all are traced to a firearms dealer and specifically were purchased legally. all of them. and while nbc news confirmed the identify of the gunman is 26-year-old christopher harper mercer, the sheriff said you will never hear anyone from his department use that name. >> i continue to believe that those media and community members who publicize his name will only glorify his horrific actions. and eventually, this will only serve to inspire future shooters. >> joining me now is nbc's joe fryer. he was there at the grand center for the press briefing and it was interesting hearing from both the sheriff and the atf, joe, specifically about the weapons that have been recovered. >> reporter: yeah. that's right, thomas. that's the most information that came out of the news conference, the information on the weapons. we learned 13 weapons recovered, some at the sce

you name it, atf, fbi, douglas county police, they're all up here. at the 100-acre campus of umpqua community college where it is a very sad scene tonight. >> 13 reported dead, 20 wounded. 33 people who were shot. then you look at the number of bullets in the bodies in the victims. 18 to 34 bullets found in three victims. how many rounds could have been fired here, hundreds? it's extraordinary the amount of firepower and amount of rounds that went off here. >> reporter: it's extraordinary to hear a statistic like that, chris. it's extraordinary to hear the president of the united states from the white house talking about a place like this. to me, at least, couldn't feel further away from the national news cycle or political environment in washington. and it really does feel like when you see the logging trucks driving by or bales of hay or the shuttle buses, the eyes of the nation are descending here, obviously. but both law enforcement -- you see people driving by with american flags on the back of oregon green jeep wranglers. the hearts are going o

the atf is here to find out where he got his weapons, was it obtained legally.and of course you have the fbi to get into motive and make sure there was no connection to other conspirators or those that knew what he was going to do. >> and there is talks that the shooter may have posted some things online. i'm sure authorities are looking at that as well. >> reporter: yeah i'm sure they are. there is a whole social media aspect of this now that people have to investigate. in terms of the authenticity you are never really sure. what we do know is three different survivors have told the media or relatives that indeed this guy when he went into her he is a -- if yo there is already there are three independent sources if you will that this troops inside that classroom. >> before we let you go. we heard the the father of the shooter is on his way up there. is there any reaction in the community to that? >> reporter: you know, dave, good question. i listened to the interviews with both the stepsister as well as the father. both of them express shock. however, the perso

and atf and fbi marshals will all be helping those efforts.back, like your discussion with clint, these guys plan these things when they show up with long gun or multiple pistols or ammunition and a specific target like the community college. they didn't think of it usually that morn. they had to purchase or acquire the gun somehow, it takes time for them to build up to it. they get this plan, like clint described, they want to get a lot of victims. so there's many steps in the ways, brian, that we as a country have to look at this to stop shethese shooters. it starts with training people, when there's failures in your life, you don't go to violence. there's many great stories from all of our families in war and in life that can see when you're knocked down and you get back up. you don't go on a violent rampage. the second is mental health. what do we do when we hear about know about people and gun control is also important in 33 years in the atf i can tell you we stopped many plots and killings with gun laws. there's not any agents that could

the atf and st. louis police are investigating. they say these fires span several different denominations, but five of the fires were set at predominantly plaque churches. so the atf and police are vecking to see if this could be a hate crime. they say it's clearly the work of the same person and is also clearly the work of someone trying to send a message. they're not certain what that message is at this point. so seven fires, 13 days of churches, now they're still looking for the arsonist that is setting these in the st. louis area. chris cato, live in our breaking news centers. >>> now to update you on this breaking news we have been following for you all morning long, crews putting out hot spots at a house fire in reading, berks county. a live picture where the fire started around 3:30. the fire reached three alarmts. firefighters still on scene making sure the fire is spleet e completely out. we will keep you updated on air and our nbc 10 news app. >>> today's presidential candidate hillary clinton will be before a house commi

this comes after an alert if the atf and fbi. they say out after an abun dauns of caution, the fbi in philadelphia field office notified local colleges and universities of a son-in-law media posting which threatened violence at a philadelphia area college of oer university for monday. no specific college or university was identified, so all of them are on alert right now. >>> today counselors at umpqua community college will be helping students remember their classmates who died. the school is reopening after nine students were killed in a mass shooting last week. classes woen start until next monday. police now say the shorter christopher harper mercer killed himself after a rampage. >>> a 23-year-old facing a list of charge this morning after maryland police say he rammed a patrol car. officials say he was under the influence. he rammed into a patrol car that was trying to stop him on our side of the chesapeake beak. the trooper is okay and out of the hospital. he tried to pull over the suspect after he spotlighted the pontiac

investigators are not calling it a hate crime yet, but officials from the atf, the act is sent to send00 reward is being offered for anyone who has an information that leads to an arrest. one of the churches that sustained the worst damage is the new life missionary baptist church. the front doors were charred in again what appears to be an argon attack. the siden was completely melted. new life missionary this fire-setting activity is meant it is not yet clear what the motive is here, but joining us now is the pastor of the new life missionary baptist church in massachusetts. it's a real honor to have you with us tonight. >> thank you for having me, rachel. when you got the call that the church had been damaged by fire, what went through your mind? what did you find in terms of the extent of damage when you got there? >> it was a really disappointing site when i got on the scene. the damage is very extense i, as you read in the report, we were not able to hold service in the church. but we did want to send the message, although the building was broken, the body is still going to stand

the atf caught him while trying to cross the border, but the u.s. attorney's office twice refused to indict him. finally, atf agents working with mexico arrested him, found a lot of explosives at his home. others include a man wanted for the murder of three u.s. consulate employees, an accused rapist and the former leader of the zetas cartel. all have active warrants here in the u.s., and they will be flown to those jurisdictions later after arriving here for arraignment. bottom line, jon, i am told that u.s./mexican law enforcement relations are improving considerably with several different agencies. back to you. jon: and where will they go? they'll be scattered around the country, it sounds like? >> reporter: yeah. i mean, active warrants in georgia, washington, d.c., new york, los angeles. i believe they're going into tucson. they'll be arraigned there and then be flown out to those other jurisdictions where the warrants are. jon: sounds like good progress there. william la you necessary, thank you. jenna: benjamin netanyahu preparing to address

i'll have the details on that and what they're asking the students to do coming up. >>> the fbi and atfing universities and colleges in our area after a threat was posted online targeting a philadelphia area school. now the post was made on social media, a website on friday saying the attack would happen at 2:00 today. now there is no mention of a specific campus. the fbi says it issued the alert simply out of an abundance of caution. this threat was posted on the same site where a similar remark was made about an impending attack on a college in the northwest and the next day we had the shooting in oregon. so law enforcement are not taking this lightly. asking students and staff to report any suspicious activity. we talked with several students over the past 24 hours, most who say they're not terribly concerned but given what happened in oregon just a few days ago, it is on their minds. live in the digital operations center this morning, i'm matt delucia nbc 10 news. >>> i'm first alert report traffic reporter jessica boyington. right now we're on 422 right around route 23. watch out f

we saw the fbi and atf out here. we noticed an evidence van and we noticed some things taken out of the apartment. tonight, we are told there will be two deputies standing guard here to make sure no one enters the apartment. >> thank you, sara sidner. bring us any new developments of the shooter's background. >>> president obama responded last night. people who know him say this was as angry as they have ever seen him. this is the 15th time he has been in office that the president addressed the nation of a gun-related massacre. he challenged the nation to help toughen the nation's laws. >> this has somehow become routine. the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. the conversation in the aftermath of it. we have become routine. we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg and tucson and aurora and charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine is the response of those who

we're told that the atf right now is trying to trace back the weapons used here, trying to work out how the gunman on tand the three handguns, as well as the rifle how do they do that and why is that so important in this investigation. >> we have a system, we have a tracing system. we're the only organization in the world that has this capability. we do an urgent trace. that means we do everything we can do nail down where that gun came from, from the time it was first sold on the retail market to the time the possessor got it to today. that tells us whether the gun was purchased legally by him, someone he may have been related to, or if the gun may have come from the illegal market. >> okay, so if he obtained it legally, where do you go from there? >> if he obtained it legally, that at least tells us he didn't buy it as a result of a firearm trafficking scheme. we'll find out when he purchased it, what state he purchased it from. and that will also tell us where he came from initially. i am told that he's from the midwest. he traveled out to oregon, be uh you never know. he may have pu

the other thing we learned was recovered from the scene alongside a rifle, according to atf, was a flap jacket. it it had steel plates and five magazines. this guy came loaded with a lot of ammunition that could have been involved in a prolonged gunfight if it hadn't been for a couple police officers who responded in minutes and engaged the shooter in a shootout ultimately ending with the shooter dead. i talked with the president of this community college just a few minutes ago. she told me they do not believe this 26-year-old man was a current student at the community college. she also said they are looking into whether he had had had been a student there in the past, but there's no indication as to why he targeted their college or these specific classes where he initially opened fire was an english class. as we work to get more information and put the clues together, we're also e seeing a tremendous outpouring of unity in this community and an outpouring of love and the president spoke to that as well. >> seems to have touched so many people in the community. ashleigh banfield, tell m

and we did learn from the atf, alcohol,bacco and firearm representative that there were 13 weapons tan discovered there on the campus, and at his apartment. now, to discuss what we have just heard, we have our experts tom fuentes, former fbi director, and people watching all over the world are saying, this is a number of weapons for one individual. >> and there is no question about the number of weapons, but he has legal right to them, and so we don't have enough information about the number of weapons, and where they were purchased, and the members of the family. >> and it is amazing that he had 14 weapons an brought six of them to the campus to start killing people randomly and asking them if they were christians for example, and then executing them. but i will take it that you are not that surprised, matt, and tell me what your reaction? >> well, while it is troublesome that he had so many weapon, and he had gotten some from family member, and where do you draw the line of how many weapons a person can buy, and is he hunting or how to get them on the campus, and then just randomly

now, the atf said all these weapons were purchased legally, and there's nothing that we know of in hist would have disqualified him from buying these weapons despite his mental problems. he was never ordered by a court that would be in any way disqualifying. >> all right. pete williams, thank you. the college is closed today. behind me the road leading into the college. you heard during the news conference that they'll allow students to get their belongings and cars from the campus. they'll be bussed in for that. the sheriff noting this is still an active investigation. we do expect to hear from the president in a few hours. he will be holding a news conference. we'll be carrying that live on manufacture the nbc stations, and, of course, we'll have full details from roseburg, oregon, tonight on "nbc nightly news". for now i'm lester holt, nbc news. good day. hammaker, and this is way to be outdoors and still look good. and it is fashionable and slimming. >> and if you were camping, you could sleep in that. >> yeah arms and the hands, and let me see if i can get out of it. oh, i can see

fbi, atf, sheriff's department were here as well. they had taken some items out of the apartment here and there are still a couple of deputies stationed here tonight protecting that apartment making sure no one goes in or out. there is still crime tape there. all of the other crime tape has been taken down. right near the door, we noticed neighbors were starting to come back here because most people had left because they could not get into their apartments. starting to come back and trying to go into their rooms and go to sleep. they simply cannot believe the person responsible for the shooting of ten, maybe nine or ten people, was living next door. john. >> sara, any link at this point between the shooter and umpqua community college and victims who were there? >> reporter: you know, everyone wants to know why did he choose umpqua community college. so far, we have not heard of a link. not from law enforcement, not from the people who saw him around here, not from his family. what we can tell you is a little bit about where this all

. >> reporter: atf agent wouldn't reveal a motive saying the investigation continues. several videos posted on his facebook page rants what he claims is city construction. philadelphia's licenses and inspections said it issued him several violations for performing demolitions without a permit. first at 1701 sky ewing ga last -- cuyahoga last airplane. he was arrested for allegedly threatening an arrest. court record show he pleaded guilty for resisting arrest. >> he wants to give us a citation for what we're doing on our property. but people from baltimore and new york are buying up the city of philadelphia under mayor nutter's plan. >> reporter: he was arrested a block away from the cuyahoga property without incident. stephen pettiway remains behind bars this morning. later today he makes his official appearance in federal court. chad perdelli channel 6 "action news." >> the contractor in a case of a center city building that collapsed on the salvation army is on trial. glycerin campbell is charged with 6 counts of third degree murder. 6 people died and 13 injured in