horrible to communicate with because if you look, you know, if you look at mandela, himself, you look attis, you see terrorists as they were called by some faxes become statesmen or peace makers. you know, tutu, himself, says no one is beyond redemption. and so we just have to say, actually, you know, people are extraordinarily complicated, often terrible but miraculous and wonderful things and we have to trust in basic humanity at some level. so a lot of situations, you know, they won't be able to help, but there will be some situations at a tipping point, a crucial moment where they can come in and really make a difference person to person. for instance, i think hundreds of thousands of young girls around the world turned into brides before they became adults, as kids, and they managed to get this on the united nation's platform. it's changed laws in various countries and my dream is that when applied for citizen power, which can connect at the cross borders globally on some campaigns. if something bad happens, we can map it. we have tools to visualize it in extraordinary ways to make it