i would like to come back to that and spend time at auschwitz. your entry into this, we talked as you were writing the book and said to me that you were quite anxious how it might be received and how people might take the book. tell us why you felt that and that might help us understand how you feel about his work at auschwitz. >> i should say when i worked in a case in the 80s i believe the common picture of mengele is some kind of mad scientist motivated by grotesque interest, sadistic interest, interested in twins and another case where he sent the head of a 12-year-old boy to the lab for fixing, having spies made or placed in formaldehyde. i didn't have a great deal of curiosity about exactly what his science was about and a caricature which came along with tremendous support from popular culture. i had seen the boys from brazil, the marathon man, read time's arrow, and a number of these films and books that portray him as a prototype of evil. i also know that we didn't know all that much about what he did at auschwitz. there are no records o

until mengele got to auschwitz. and there he had before him a nearly unlimited -- at least an extreme number of twin subjects. for him, mengele -- auschwitz was a kind of cornucopia of possibilities because it offered him the opportunity to continue his twin research, and there's twin research that was being conducted without any of the safe guards that were even present in germany for research on human beings. so for him, this was a kind of fantasy, and he mentioned to one of his colleagues that it would have been a crime against science for him not to have been able to carly on the experiments -- carry on the experiments. >> so if he would have -- i know you can't answer this, but if he would have been asked whether he was complying with the admonition to do no harm, what would he, what do you think he would have said? >> well, i talk in the book about how the medical profession was able through a kind of moral, ethical, intellectual slight of hand be consistent with their own view of the hippocratic oath and also

i know he was taken to auschwitz. my fantasy is that, you know, maybe he was the sort of person that got killed trying to escape, i, i've no idea. and so it's always been a struggle, you know-- how do you deal with that loss and my need to somehow bring my father back to life? (birds chirping) >> people that don't know will, will say, "oh, yeah, no, maurice's sculptures, they're, they're him, aren't they? they, they represent him." and, but actually it's not-- it represents his father. have you seen the photograph of his father? that is the ad of all of maurice'sculptures. because maurice does look terribly similar to that. they just think it's him, but it's... that is, you know, look at those cheekbones, look at that nose. >> i'm not one of these artists who are dying to get into the studio and make the next thing. it's always been a, a struggle, in a way, to get around my initial feelings about makg a sculpture. i mean, i have to go back to when i was in the camp a, and i had... my little sister was born there, and

i want to make sure we spend time on auschwitz. you entrÉe into this, you and i talked as you were writing the book at one point you said to me that you were quite anxious about how it might be received. you were concerned about how people might take the book. tell us about why you felt that and that might help us understand a bit about how you feel about his work at auschwitz? >> i should say that when i worked on the case back in the 80s i was, i believe the common picture is mengele is some kind of mad scientist and someone who is motivated by a grotesque interest and interest in not things. he was interested in twins and they came across another case where he had sent the head of the 12-year-old boy to the lab for having supply in formaldehyde. i did have a great curiosity for what his science was about. i accepted this as a caricature which came along with tremendous support from popular culture. i had seen the marathon man in my head bred the deputy and i had seen a number of these films and a number of books that portray him

and then to spend time in auschwitz. and you and i talked and that you are anxious how it might be received. you are concerned how people might take the book. so tell us why you felt that that might help us understand how you feel about his work at auschwitz. >> yes. working on the case back in the eighties i believe the common picture of josef mengele as a mad scientist motivated by that grotesque interest of statistic interest and in twins and came across a document in another case to have the head of the 12 -year-old boy to the lab for fixing slides made and being placed in formaldehyde. and i did have a great deal of curiosity what science was about and that character which came along from tremendous support from popular culture and i read the deputy and i had seen a number of the films that portray him with the prototype of evil that we didn't really note that much of what he did at auschwitz there are no records that illustrate the exact nature of those experiments and those goals and procedures that he used. and t

and chairman of auschwitz for this study. and the graduate students of that together and with that chosen profession. and with that work there and that moral code to breakdown and with devastating consequences. and with that principle and insight with joseph minghella and i will let david and david take it from here. >> i'm hoping people can hear me. and to have a tuxedo. we have known each other for many years and that we often finish each other's sentences. that i might skip asking a question i have in mind because i heard his answer. but that i am fascinated by the perpetrators. and then to begin by studying the perpetrators of nazi germany. and to preface the questions to david that my focus would be on mingle as a perpetrator. and then i would like to start with asking who he was. who was joseph mangalore? one - - minghella he was born with horns on his head and evil incarnate but we know that is not what your book is a. so i would like to learn a little bit more about him. what was he like as a kid? >> i don't really kn

>> and with that symbol of the holocaust of auschwitz. and the fact to become such an attractive figure for people to create popular culture. i have a google alert on my phone that gives me a message several times a day every time josef mengele is mentioned for any tv show. and some crazy film. every single day josef mengele is promoted either in a historical sense but has invoked with the coronavirus and those comparisons that trump would replace doctor fauci. and more often than not as a bad manager so as one has been separated from his person and part of what i tried to do in this book was to explain who that person really was. >> it's like a biography and a detective story with the research is to rebook it is an amazing book i encourage everyone to get a hold of it. let me just think david and david i'm so sorry david we cannot have you on screen and with that improvisation. >> you were a good guide through all of this. >> i believe it was everybody's good fortune so it worked out perfect. >> and all good conversations and and so eith

some 1100000 people most of them jews died at auschwitz alert. after arriving with their luggage most prisoners men women and children were sent straight to their deaths. i was ending crematorium gas chamber began the day shift. because and there were big crowns will not come here i tried to open one of the croutons to shower and water comes out however no came out but then we saw that this is the end people were crying shaving their latest command and then in the morning when they showed it does out out out we did not know what it happened but in death time a group of small children we came and did for digital movement they had a certain call they can kill just so many at one time german but are very mythical that they killed 1st those children they were the big rallies i hear dos cries to this day. the pictures here document what had childhood memories for peter smokey and many other survivors. peter recognizes his barack on an aerial photograph he shows his grandson when he was held. next spielberg struggles to explain to his daughter why he w

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the red brick buildings of auschwitz one the main camp. for nazi officials most prisoners were kept separate on the grounds of the local now extermination camp. today the buildings preserve howard exhibits of the large scale meticulously planned extermination of human lives. some 1100000 people most of them jews died at auschwitz alert. after arriving with their luggage most prisoners men women and children were sent straight to their deaths. i was in the crematorium gas chamber and exhaustion. because and there were big crowns will not come there and i tried to open one of the craziness to shower at other times however no other came out but then we saw that this is the end people were crying shaving their latest command and then in the morning when they showed it does out out out we did not know where it happened. but in bedtime a group of small children we came and did for the german they have a certain call they can kill just so many at one time german but a very mythical that they killed 1st those children they were the big rallies i h

. >> to make sure we spent time in auschwitz. and the entrÉe into this, you and i have talked is you are writing the book and at one point you said to me you are quite anxious how this could be received and how people could take the book. so why did you feel that? that may help us understand how you feel about his work at auschwitz. so working on the case back in the eighties and i believe the common picture of josef mengele as a mad scientist or someone that was motivated by a grotesque interest and a sadistic interest to come across a document on another case where he had the head of a 12 -year-old boy to the lab and then being placed in formaldehyde. it with that great deal of curiosity what his science was about that i accepted this caricature which came along with tremendous support from popular culture. and then the deputy and then i had seen a number of these films and then to portray as this type of prototype of evil. but i also knew that we didn't even know all that much about what he did at auschwitz. there are no recor

with us tonight to celebrate the holocaust survivor max eisen he was saved from certain death at auschwitz by a polish physician who employed him as a cleaner in the operating room. his 2016 memoir, by chance alone chronicles his liberation and continued healing and by chance alone tonight we celebrate the launch of the book and we have the privilege to hear mr. eisen in conversation with the producer of 60 minutes jerry finkelstein. and with the impeachment coverage tonight at the conclusion of tonight's program we invite you to join us for a book signing in the lobby it is available for purchase in the museum shop we are honored to be joined tonight by acting counsel general of the canadian consulate in new york, mark gordon, executive committee member of usc foundation board of counselors, the national director march of the living in canada, phyllis greenberg, president of the international march of the living also thank you to our partners implanting and presenting tonight's program the international march of the living, consulate general of canada in new york, hanover square press and

epicenter of a systematic genocide in which 6000000 jews died across europe we don't talk a lot about auschwitz. policeman is this person that has that as a gift a great gift. we desperately need the rabbi. for there is. a cheese i said it before that. might try to have a catholic bishop is among the various public figures attending this interfaith service in warsaw. the host michel she trick chief rabbi of poland the answer. is an interfaith prayer wishing that anti semitism will finally disappear. change doesn't happen overnight. it takes time but as long as you see you're going in the right direction it gives you gives you energy and it gives you. and it's that hope that sustains the work of michael shoot rick this is his office and warsaw's no chick synagogue also a home for the american born rabbi. never find what she needed. the son of a new york rabbi he 1st visited the country in the 1970 s. in search of his roots his grandparents had left europe before the 2nd world war in communist ruled poland she direct found a few jews struggling to preserve what was left of their heritage the diar

chamber 3 catch him before yes chamber 5 and this is the sauna the rabbi travels to auschwitz birkenau several times each year people many visitors from israel and the u.s. ask to meet him at the site where their relatives were murdered with he's also a senior religious advisor to the auschwitz foundation which administers the site as a museum and a memorial rabbi shooter it says keeping the memory alive is crucial it seems that in europe the shock of the holocaust of this genocide the more genocide in history . kind of silenced those people who refused to learn the lesson and it seems not 75 years later for many people do know the lesson there are those who never knew the lesson and now want to speak. in a loud voice about. denying the holocaust belittling the holocaust. so while some people are saying you know we've learnt nothing that's not true humanity has learnt a lot. it doesn't mean that all of humanity has learnt everything. and so even standing a place like this i'm hopeful because you just see the numbers of people visiting today. gives hope that they will be changed when th

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sacrifice i think of my late father and my mother those that fled the nazis one of the last time auschwitz my father basically talked his way into the army because he was affluent young man, german and convincedt the military he can be part of the propaganda to drop the pamphlets that they can never defeat the great troops my mother on the other hand to the picture that's on my wall my mother and her whack uniform. and memorial day was a special day and to come to the most open nation on earth and then to say if they were here today that was a special day to show the deep respect and gratitude those who made the ultimate sacrifice. and me will never miss a memorial day without expressing the sentiment. so this weekend thinking about how much i want to be back at eagle point in central point to celebrate memorial day. and thinking about it with those fallen servicemembers a little bit differently than before. but in the senate mr. president i think i can speak for every member of the senate commits especially important now to keep all those who died serving our country let's do right by tho

. >> i saw the word auschwitz... >> the doors opened, terror hit us immediately. >> how many people haveking at the flames and thinking, "which is my motr?" >> we are the last ones, you want to hear? here it is. >> in december, patients are trickling into hospitals in wuhan. >> narrator: why wasi't the un states more prepared? >> there was still a remarkable lack of urgency in the western world. >> and it takes 18 days to get to the president. sp correct. >> narrator: cordent martin smith investigates - >> publicly they're echoing the" president'y, we got this". privately they are concluding containment is failing. >> frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs yostation from viewers lik thank you. and by the corporation for public broadcasting. major support is provi the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundation, committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. at macfound.org. the ford foundation: working with visionaesn the frontlines of social change worldwide. at fordfoundation.org. additional support is provided by the abrams foundation, committed to e

jews were often sent to auschwitz to be killed.they were all in the little camp where people where that the germans did not care much about. the food was not a good quantity. the death rate was high. this was a camp that had special art wire around it. elie wiesel and his father were both in the little camp. wiesel was in the infirmary when the camp was liberated. i went and saw him several years ago and gave him a map of the camp which he had never seen. >> i think you have given me a pretty good summary of your service. i want to thank you for allowing me into your house to sit down and talk to you. i have a few questions i would like to ask you. do you believe it is important that we have museums such as the one i represent to further educate and enlighten future generations? >> i certainly do. it tickets two years of intense effort to gather the memoirs and put out the book. we were doing a museumlike effort and that. >> do you believe it is important that middle school and high school kids continue to learn about world war ii?

myut great uncle max is one of e last two was cast in auschwitz. my father basically talked his way into our army because he was affluent young man, in german, and he convinced our military that he could be part of our propaganda unit to drop the pamphlets on the nazis, making it clear they could never defeat our great troops. my mother, on the other hand, was a wac and you look often to the picture on my wall of my mother in her wac uniform. and for them during their lives, memorial day was a really special day, because they were so thrilled to t be able to come to the freest and most open nation on earth, to be able to serve in our military. and they in particular would say, if they were here today, ron, this is a special day for showing our deep respect and gratitude for those who made the ultimate sacrifice, and we are never going to miss a memorial day without expressing that sentiment. so, mr. president, i am going to be, this weekend, thinking about how much i want to be back to eagle point and central point to celebrate memorial day. and i'

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