babin. you are recognized for five minutes, if you have more questions. rep. babin: yes. can you hear me? thank you. i do have some more questions. i wanted to address this to all the witnesses, if possible. how many intrusion attempts per month did nasa identify last year? how does that compare to the intrusion attempts per month this year during covid? if this information is sensitive, please provide a response to the staff after the hearing concludes. mr. seaton: if i could take the specifics of the question for the record, but i can speak in more general terms. as i mentioned before, i think that the measurement of intrusion continues to fluctuate based on our insight into the network, and that has increased. so, in some cases, where we see an increase in intrusions, it is because we are seeing more of what is happening, and we are to the point now where we have got a pretty solid visibility into our network today. but then a comparison of -- a comparison of specific ones by month, we will have to take that and get back to you. rep. babin: ok. all right, thank you. i

yield back. >> thank you very much, ranking member babin. mr. perlmutter, you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair. i think one of the biggest problems with this remote stuff is when somebody like doctor babineaux is walking around with his phone and i feel like we're in the blair witch project, that's a whole other problem. my questions are for you, dr. burley. mr. seaton mentioned the most vulnerable spot for hacking and cybersecurity is the individual, the person. when you are testifying, you talked about novice users nothing they with equipment or security protocol, employees under duress, worried about the basic needs and not the more refined things like cybersecurity. you know, that folks are having trouble because they are distracted, frightened and fatigue, i think were your terms. it almost feels not, the cao should be involved but the personnel department is really one of the keys here. so what do you see, whether it's nasa or generally across the agency being done to help the individuals kind of get through this

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babin: thank you. madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent to call up h.r. 8265 to extend the payroll protection program to keep millions of employees on the payroll of america's small businesses. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands that the gentlewoman from pennsylvania has not yielded for that purpose. therefore the unanimous consent request cannot be entertained. the gentlewoman from arizona is recognized. mrs. lesko: thank you, madam speaker. i yield to the gentleman from north carolina, mr. walker for the purpose of unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. walker: thank you. madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent to call up h.r. 8265, to extend the paycheck protection program to keep millions of employees on the payroll of america's small businesses. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands that the gentlewoman from pennsylvania has not yielded for that purpose. therefore the unanimous consent request cannot be entertained. the gentlewoman