badden said he was a good assistant. is he what he says he is?ourself a professor. >> yes. >> reporter: where are you a professor? >> i'm an adjunct professor at washburn university in topeka, kansas. >> reporter: but that as far as we could tell isn't accurate. we contacted washburn university, they say while he has spoken to nursing students, he's not now and never been an adjunct professor there. washburn university says it's not true. >> i have a contract that says it is true. >> reporter: can you show us that contract? >> i can >> reporter: but he never showed us that contract that said he was anned a jun ed ned ed ned . >> i would describe him as a fraud. that's the best way to describe shawn parcells to me. >> manipulator. >> very good con artist is the way i'd put it. >> reporter: in missouri deputy sheriffs say shawn parcells performed an autopsy procedure in a criminal case without a doctor present. so he introduced himself as a pathologist, as a medical doctor? >> that is correct. >> reporter: and he seemed believable. >> very well. >>

michael badden, a forensic pathologist who was hired by the family to perform one of threw autopsies on brown. the doctor who has a history of cases, including an investigation of the jfk assassination and the o.j. murder trial wouldn't say anything about his testimony here. but the family attorney who hired him did talk. >> there is evidence that shows michael brown had his hands up. yes, no doubt about that. and that is not in regards to his testimony, that is in regards to what we know based on our review of all of the opinions. >> it appears by dr. baden's appearance today, that we are probably getting to the end of the witness list. >> reporter: so far most of the evidence that has leaked out of the grand jury has favored wilson's version of events, including eyewitness testimony and wilson's own story, saying brown reached for the officer's gun through the window of his patrol vehicle. but the witness with brown that day said brown was trying to pull away. the official autopsy leaked to the st. louis post-dispatch in october said brown's right hand had gunshot residue on it. wh

so -- >> chris, i'm just happy that the grand jury did ask for badden's testimony.o come forward. it's suspect that mccullough would not present this evidence and want to hear directly from badden. but i'm very glad that he had that opportunity. and also to present that there was even more excessive force than we originally thought. i'm hoping that that means that they will look more closely into you know, because we've been hearing lately that it seems like there would be no indictment. and this seems to take a little bit of a different turn and hopefully end up with an indictment. >> mo ivory, paul callan, no matter what your disposition is about what you want to see happen, the effort here is to clarify these things. because what we all know is true is there's been a rush to judgment. whether you think it's in favor of the officer's actions or against them, there's been a rush to judgment here. and we don't even know what the grand jury is really hearing. this is one of the stories we'll be following up until the indictment. there's other news, so let's get to it

kobilinsky, you heard what he said and michael badden, and what others said, if they can't come to aroup of lay people do that? >> that is what is so bizarre about the process. from the beginning, i said it was very strange. if a prosecutor wants an indictment, they don't throw every piece of evidence in front of the grand jury that will be the evidence that is inadmissible at trial. and just say have at it. i have just never seen anything like it. if you have all of this different evidence how do you expect them to come to a joint conclusion? remember, we need nine out of the 12 to have an excitemenindi. that is the first thing that is strange to me, secondly, we're hearing they could come up with a decision on that day. how is that possible? >> they want to hear more evidence on friday. and they said a decision could come as early as friday. not that it is going to come on friday, but it could be as early as friday. why might they be just listening to more evidence because we had heard from the last witness, remember, baden testified -- >> we at least now know this grand jury is a

michael badden, the famed forensic, you know, guy that was testifying and he's part of the brown caseand hopefully they will have heard everything. >> right. michael bad en, the medical examiner who looked at so many different cases. this is just a fascinating question and you're right about the grand jury. who knows who they've heard from that we haven't heard from. >> we'll have to wait and see. thank you so much. great information. we appreciate it. >> great to see you guys. >> you, too. >>> we'll see you back here at 8:00 eastern. >> sanjay gupta md is coming up for you after a quick break. this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day starts with her minor arthritis pain, and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns. that's two more pills. the evening's event brings laughter, joy, and more pain. what's that, like six pills today? yeah. .i could take two aleve for all day relief. really? for my arthritis pain, i now choose aleve. 2 pills. all day strong. all day long. and now introducing, aleve pm for a better am. because i make the best chic

michael badden, hired by michael brown's family, walking into the missouri grand jury proceedings to testify. the meetings are private, but he argues that officer darren wilson shot and killed the unarmed 18-year-old from a distance. >> and in this instance, no gunshot residues on the skin's surface. so that the muzzle of the gun was at least one to two feet away. the muzzle at the time of discharge. could have been 30 feet away. >> reporter: that's different than the county's autopsy, suggesting it was at close range and inside the vehicle. supporting police accounts that he fought with the officer inside the suv and went for the gun. outside the courthouse, the family lawyers demanding that officer wilson be charged, but begging for peace no matter the decision. >> we want it to be clear on behalf of the brown family, we do not condone any acts of rioting, looting or violence. >> reporter: but at local gun ranges and gun stores, frightened families are preparing for the worst. gun sales up 300%. how many have you sold in the last few weeks? >> in the last few weeks, roughly 250 of

badden testifying so late into the process? >> it's unclear, the prosecutor said that we could see a decision or announcement as early as mid november to late november, but again, we have to remember that the deadline for the grand jury to come pack with a decision isn't until early john. at this point, it's still a wait and watch point of view from everybody here in ferguson. >> clearly a deliberate are a active process, as it should be. usher, thank you. >> it is cold right now, cold weather covering much of the country. >> a lot of heavy coats. for more on the national forecast, let's bring in the meteorologist. >> the cold weather core is over denver now. low record temperatures there, setting records over 130 years ago was the last record broke yesterday. looking at these cold temperatures bringing in some light snow and bitter cold wind chills, as well. 6 below in denver right now, but when you factor in the wind, makes it feel 30 or 40 below zero. cold air east of the rookies, dallas now below 30 at 29 degrees. that arct

badden is being brought in, a famous forensic pathologist.to put that autopsy before the grand jury. why do you think he's doing it, and is it a good move? >> well, i do think that the big issue in ferguson is the big issue everywhere. you have lots of people in our community that simply do not trust law enforcement. they do not trust the people who are empowered to protect them from threats. and that trust is longstanding, and you cannot understand these issues without understanding the backdrop, the context. and many people of color feel like they are targeted. harassed, they're presumed guilty, presumed dangerous and these incidents when they manifest in the way that they have so tragically feed the distrust. and unfortunately there's been too little in ferguson to kind of restore trust. even in the process of this indictment and the legal proceedings, there are doubts. and so you see the family responding with that doubt mindset. >> is this a step in the right direction, hearing that their expert is being used at the grand jury? it's unus