baden baden podcast, i am its host, konstantin severinov. our guest today is igor pavlenko. hello, igor. and we will talk about biohacking. and igor, he is a biohacker, so he will tell us everything about it. biohacking in general is a relatively fashionable and new phenomenon that came to us from the states. well, actually, this is paramedicine, that is, all paramedicine is from the greek, it means next to medicine, around somewhere, yes, that’s why everything. finished product, with human production human hands from and to the first bolt to such a question there are more questions than actual answers, who, how, for what period, and since this biomachine is much more complex than an airplane, many different points of view appear when we talk about , that we are now living better, some founders of biohacking say that perhaps this is a survivor’s mistake, that is, now we are sitting in... this studio we have medicine, we have science, but at the same time in some undeveloped countries, islands papua guinea has people who still live in a natural way, a subsistence economy, and if our descendants find them, excavate them in the third millennium, in the fourth, they may mistakenly conclude that undeveloped people lived at that time in 2023, and there are also points of view that say , that the people who lived there before us for tens of thousands of years, they also had their own tricks to prolong longevity and health, so how should we look at this? do you want to live to be 150 years old? you see, we have quantity and we have quality, so i i would probably like to live a fulfilling life, resourceful, of high quality, filled with memories, health, to leave something behind, and maybe it won’t be until 150 years old, but it will be of a higher quality than, for example, 100 years there, but somehow in despondency in this case there is no conflict. with doctors, that’s right, everyone wants it to be like this, but this doesn’t happen, that is, you know something that others don’t know, you think so, you see, the conflict is still present, probably because of this conflict i embarked on these studies because i come from a deeply traditional medical family, this is not passed down, academics say that academics have sons, but more often it’s the same thing, this is a different story, i wanted to say that in the family you know who, heaven knows, that’s why. i became a certified economist , an entrepreneur, but i began to have health issues at a fairly early age, i was looking for answers, why am i a healthy person, thank god, with good genetics, thanks to my dad and mom, well, i have very serious questions, i don’t could find them in traditional alopathic medicine, and we are approaching a conflict, the conflict was that medicine and the hospital in general, and from the word pain, it makes sure that you don’t get sick, that is... it works with symptoms, that is, doctors treat diseases, but for some reason it does not exist some kind of direction that would not deal with sick people, but that would work relatively with relatively healthy people and allow them to become about prevention, but well, he’s deaf, he probably heard, all the doctors talk about prevention, that is, you mean preventive medicine , this is huge direction, it makes economic sense, because when a person is already completely... ill, then treating him is expensive, long and most likely useless. in this sense, evidence-based medicine, of course, is aimed, in particular, at preventing the reversal of future effects. in this sense, zosh - it was biohackers who invented it, it seems to me that no, zosh existed even before the formal appearance of the term biohacking, yes, of course, well, if we dig into the history of the russian empire, yes, when zalmanov’s baths were invented there, ours the outstanding physiologist alexander abramovich zalmanov, the same ivan palov, that is, it existed for a long time, confirmation of the words is my father, he is an abdominal surgeon, he says that you need to be treated while you are healthy, we need to define the terms, so you can say: yes, which will concern only him and his body, because many things are individual. you see, this is an idea, to become better than nature, to rise, as it were, to the level of god, that is, my body, it is not efficient enough, it seems to me, therefore, as in states, for example, in the sixties, let's remove vermiform appendices, appendixes or tonsils from babies, because this is a rudiment, there are always consequences for this, and often goes in the direction of i... not in the direction of delusions, so we are rather looking for, well, then we still come to the conclusion that biohacking, in your understanding or the one you practice, is just a healthy lifestyle, something like that, but measured, i don’t know nutrition, i turn to nature, so look at the tree, for the new year, something like yes, for example, and how do you get the answer from there, for example , i noticed that animals, when they feel bad, they refuse food and take a short food break, and i began to wonder: why do they tell me that i have to eat on a schedule 1 2 3 4 5 , and here it’s like a conscious 180° movement, that is, that is - this is intermittent fasting, as it ’s called, in my opinion, this is one of the intermittent fastings, this is a biohacking technique, the first one to talk about it, well , if i may say so, the father of the american biohacking, this is dave aspriy, well, you do it, of course, but still, suddenly i believed, saw the light and want to become a biohacker, and you will be my example of how i need to starve. so that it is correct in a biohacker way, in ours , in a biohacker way, one of the postulates is like, tell me, i’ll just write it down right away , i’ll go and eat no more today, for example, try the 16x8 system, when you eat food and raise glucose only for 8 hours, the rest of the time it either falls or stagnates, so what? will? it means that there are regular insulin spikes, but you’ve probably heard about insulin. resistance is such a scourge of the third millennium of a well-fed society, and if you control surges in sugar and in particular insulin, this leads to a strict health-improving therapeutic effect. i eat for 8 hours, don’t eat for 16, and then what will i do, how long, how long should i do this? well , in order for some kind of habit to form and neuroconnections to become stronger, about the number, tell me - weeks, 3 weeks, 3 weeks, after that you will be able to get at least some, and what it will be effect, you say efficiency, but what? will happen to me, well, for starters , you’ll just spend less time on food, to begin with, you’ll just have a mathematical hour or two of time freed up, i’ll save money, then you’ll have less, you know, this is such a trick that the gastrointestinal tract is in it has 10 times more nerve endings than in the brain, that is, this is a story where a mass of microbiota is synthesized, well, i don’t have to tell you, and people are very focused on this story, and often even depend. food, and if you clean this is the usual average dependence on food, then you release energy, well, it would seem that food is needed in order to receive energy, okay, so, we will eat for 8 hours, not eat for 16 hours and we will do this for 3 weeks and a lot of time will appear after consulting with your doctor, if you have any chronic diseases, perhaps you are not talking about... these experiments should be done after consultation with a therapist, definitely, definitely, we are talking about relatively healthy people who do not have any something heavy or chronic diseases, for example , with gastritis, short-term, that is, long pauses between meals, this is a contraindication , well, with thermotherapy and color therapy, this should be done together, instead of, as you can do this in courses, for example, our physiologist was , zalmanov 100 years. covers, improves blood microcirculation and the main substance of conifers on the skin accelerates the blood in the capillary network, so it’s just that when you take a bath, you need to pour spruce infusion there, but well, the main thing is not overdo it, because you can get burns , you also need to be smart, and what will happen from this, but how to get smarts, smarts from somewhere, someone has to say, someone should, tell me, how do you know how much is needed add, you can simply buy approved turpentine emulsion at any pharmacy. health care , read the instructions there and there will be written instructions about the dosage and you need to follow it very clearly, that is, we are all biohackers, in fact, yes, didn’t you really breathe over potatoes at one time, did you really breathe sand in socks didn’t warm the gaymer’s sinuses and heaps and heaps, but vishnevsky’s ointments, and you have this asterisk, you can start listing in every soviet resident it will be what kind of bi everyone was and biohackers, that’s when 8 hours is 16 hours, i understood. you have to suffer, and for 8 hours you need to eat something special? well, there are general recommendations that , let’s say, for the most part, people won’t mind , tell me, well, for example, here’s a simple rule, it doesn’t matter how you eat, we’re not talking about any concepts, there’s ketogenic nutrition, vegetarianism, and so on further, we will let everyone choose, but if we increase the content of raw plant fiber, say, half of the contents in your plate will be occupied by some herbs, crispy, fresh vegetables, then this improves both digestion and bioavailability of products. regarding any other recommendations, well, breathing, breathing is that connecting brain, you breathe differently than me, like others, and i don’t know how you breathe, but if you want, i’ll teach you, tell me how you breathe, well, according to my observations, nine out of 10 people breathe from the chest, especially for women, yes, who want to look good. cool there, tighten up the tummy and so on, here they reduce the amplitude, and breathing occurs in the chest, and if you connect the diaphragm, yes, our large dome muscle, which is attached to eight organs, start breathing precisely by giving amplitude in the stomach, then - our blood will be enriched with oxygen and nitrogen, more effective too, again, you do this yourself, you teach yourself, you forced yourself to breathe with a diaphragm, well, this a habit, this is a habit, and we also write about this a lot, breathing exercises by buteyka, by strelnikov, that is, our domestic physiologists, now in the west they are gaining the concept of the vimakhov school, you know, this is a snowy, this is an ice man, who holds the record for swimming under ice 125 m, and you breathe accordingly with some such recommendations, you did some kind of breathing exercises and came to a special type of breathing that suits you, how long do you just breathe gymnastics, you and i are sitting here or are somewhere in a traffic jam, in a store, we can hold our breath there, well, like for any duration, 15-20 seconds, when we hold our breath, carbon dioxide begins to accumulate in our blood, this story forces our body to activate buffer compensation mechanisms, that is, we ourselves have homeostasis in the body and 7.45 ph. when a critical level of carbon dioxide begins to accumulate in our blood, the body is forced to alkalize this history so as not to cause mingas stay, well, it helps you , after all, you say efficiency, you are going to a meeting with a business, with a business partner, you held your breath, now i’ll come and just tear it up, but well, for example, today i was very worried before our meeting, because meeting with you, i was watching your lectures, konstantin viktorovich, here i have to communicate with such a person, i... my breath was stolen, my breath was stolen into my memory everywhere in all places, so i took a few breathing breaths cycles, breathing square, this is from pranayama from hindu culture, and i felt a little better, but i somehow got used to it, tuned in to the upcoming broadcast, and also coped with my excitement, but this really, you know, it was in the classics, breathe deeply, you are excited, that is, this is not biohacking then, but still it seemed to me that biohacking was something completely new. we have now talked a little about environmentally friendly biohacking, that is, those things that are available to every person, you and me, without special knowledge, but we can go into technological biohacking, for example, implantation, yes, what is it? and there is google ideologue ray kurzwell, he is a famous futurologist, and he predicts that in 1928-1935 the market for implants in our world will become very effective, and people will use implants more willingly than there, and in your country there are implants, like... some kind of implants , well, excuse me, if they’re like that, like po for biohacking, so you know, jump further, run faster, or something like that. depending on what is meant by an implant, well, for example, a wristwatch, swatch, yes, they also perform a certain function as implants, because they can monitor blood saturation, sugar levels, and pulse, it’s just monitoring something like cholesterol, yes, that is, this is actually the same and a story that is not implanted into our body, but is in close contact and gives us information, well, that is, you were not chipped in any way, no, i have not been chipped yet, i am watching with interest, why and why? yes, with interest, because it’s important for me to look not at the dynamics in the moment, after a while, that is, i’m not the kind of person who will probably try some methods on himself, i want to see the people who were chipped, how they are doing, whether they live up to 150 years, i don’t know, but i have 120 years left to observe behind this story, a little less for you, but in general we have, i think that as you wrote me off early on, maybe, you know, maybe evidence-based medicine? will somehow support me, i will walk there with a stick, that’s why i was interested in meeting you, because what if you’re something you will find out there, and i will be one of the first, and i will be one of the first to whom you tell, in 10 days i should be at a meeting with brezhnev in perfect shape, silicone oil is not excreted from the body on its own, it will be lethal if it gets into the bloodstream, i checked the tests, they are from two different people , “here is a search warrant, we need to interrogate comrade dronov, doctor preobrazhensky, new episodes, tomorrow after the program time, i am committing theft of socialist property, ready, yes, i think the movie is showing only love stories in war films are about a guy's love for weapons." in gangster films, about the guys' love for thefts, the stuff is really rubbish, but the new wave brought love for cinema, without love there are no films, he is a child of the cinema, he himself says, that he grew up in a film museum in paris, he knows the role of watching old films, films are not good enough for the audience, but the audience is often not good enough for films, they say that people don’t understand my films. so what, i don’t understand them myself , matador, jean luc gadar, two or three things i don't know about him on friday first. closed screening with alexander gardon , you like the film so much, an absolutely original and powerful film language, the genre is breaking down, suddenly they go crazy and go into such a monologue, you understand what you’re talking about now at the level of the script, but of course, the viewer must see what happens to these characters from beginning to end, they are real and alive all the way. i’m its host, konstantin severinov, we have such an unusual new year’s atmosphere and we ’re talking about the future, about biohakin. with igor pavlenko, well, after all, it means chips are the future, that is, the way you sound, this is the 20th year, once upon a time, but not now, well , here are elementary chips, i was recently at a conference on artificial intelligence, the most simple - it’s an earphone, a mini earphone that automatically translates information when you communicate with a native speaker of another language, you don’t need to use it for this, but this is not biohacking, it’s just a translator, yes, it’s some other thing, well, let’s put it this way , it is powered by heat. there are all sorts of various gadgets that seem to give a certain touch of biohacking, but by and large artificial intelligence, yes, he got into the car, she also talks to you, turn right, turn left, and it can drive, and can drive for you, and so it turns out all biohacking , i think that here we come to you, probably, to another ideological component, but what is biohacking, that is, bio is biology, yes, i wanted to know from the very beginning, yeah. uh, that we can hack biology, hack without, isn’t it too much is this presumptuous? someone is trying it in environmentally friendly ways, as you say, there’s food, hardening, nutrition, there... gymnastics, breathing, well, all these things, well, it’s old-fashioned, it all goes further, for example, taking dietary supplements, yes, our program is called badendeveloped the story of the redox potential of water, have you heard anything, no when we have there is. of which there is an excess, that is, donors, you are talking about antioxidants, we are talking about antioxidants and radicals, then there is a secret, this is what you need to do, what antioxidants you need to drink and why? well, firstly, the antioxidants themselves are returning to raw plant fibers, some of them have an unstable structure, they are destroyed under the influence of stable heat treatment, let’s say raw fiber is the presence of fresh foods, it increases further consumption. various gadgets, for example, water ionizers or activators water that charges, for example, water miles with electricity, well, let's say -400, -150 mw, and thus we increase the concentration of antioxidants, that is, you need to charge the water and then drink it, or you need soup on it or on it with electricity, it you can wash your face, well, for example, the water in moscow apartments has a