shelia bair joins me again.lways a pleasure to see you. >> thank you, ali. >> when we talk about gdp, it's the broadest measure we use, it may not be as effective as other things, but the broadest measure we use. back at the end of 2008, the economy, the gdp contracted by 8.9%. after that, it was 6.7 and then 0.7%. then it started to grow. we got up to 3.9%. it was very strong. then into the 2s and 2011, we had sort of a dodgy year. now we've got brand-new numbers that show that the economy is growing at an annual basis of 2.2%. so it's going to be 2.2% bigger in 2012 than it was in 2011. that's not much, particularly when you compare it to a lot of other nations. so is your idea that interest rates should go up a signal that we think you're okay? you're confident in this recovery and we're not going to be set back again? >> i think it is a signal that this has gone on long enough and there's only so much you can accomplish through monetary policy. our economy is still struggling, but the way to fix that is thro

bair in jerusalem toxpiee the unique atmosphere of the holy city. -- they are in jerusalem to experience the unique atmosphere of the holy city. >> they truly want toake the thhajes lk, kw that he suffered four us. that is what impresses me the most. >> he runs a souvenir shoplo thvia dolorosa. he is muslim, but he celebrates both religions. >> there is no strike your. it is governments that use religion to cause problems. >> the blisters market is no place for peace and reflection. -- the oysters market is no -- the boisterous market is known place for peace and reflection. >> all kinds of people visit the via dolorosa. they speak all different ngge wellnoth jus walked here. >> the stations of the cross and at the church of the holy sepulchre. it will be celebrated re in the holy city as it has been for centuries. >> investors inur have welcomed a u.s. decision to ease sanctions on that country after a landmark election last weekend. >> the an ambassador to the southeast asian nation. the burma'--he burmese opposition won almost all seats in the parliamentary election. >> that has not s

bair used for all kinds of products, from computer screens and sell funds to camera lenses and solar panels. -- cell phones to camera lenses and solar panels. china accounts for 90% of rare earth production. 5% comes from the united states. an equally small amount comes from russia. china in forces tough limits on its rare earth exports. critics accuse it of deliberately driving prices. a complaint was filed with the world trade organization last month. china says it will implement what it calls a reasonable price mechanism, but also give the government more control over the sector. >> some business news now. a japanese newspaper is reporting that sony plans to sack 10,000 people worldwide, 6% of its global work force. half the cuts will be in the chemical and lcd operations. the company has experienced a loss of 2 billion euros for the last business year, marking four years of losses. the european stock markets were closed because of the easter holidays, but new york was open. the dow jones industrial average down 0.5 -- 0.75%. and the euro is trading at $1.3115. for the price of 81

bair in an expansion of course -- they remain in expansion of course. >> the maker of electrical switch boards and electrical systems -- it has to find new ways to meet its goals of expanding in the international market. >> the chief of customer operations has a look at production. the company uses 600 electrical control cabinets. not bad for wind power plants are around china. the production line began here in 2004. since then, it has increased fivefold, and it is ready for another spurt of growth. >> the mean goal of the five- year plan -- the main-goal of the five-year plan is to promote energy. we have already seen that in investments, and it is a significant business for us. >> the plans to double their chinese business over the next three years, and that it once the company's growth is beginning to cloud over. there is the possibility the real estate market there could collapse. the government has set a target growth rate of 7.5% this year. that would be a 20-year low. at the same time, china is not inexpensive. wages are rising. cities like shanghai are feeling the pressure. but

good afternoon i am steve sanders >>and i'm dina bair wgn's sports director dan roan is live now at the friendly confines >>it is good good weather for opening day we have had lots of rain and the past five years but today bright blue skies on the north side of chicago is windy and it's coming right over the top of the scoreboard ... the ballpark looks great the ivy is popping on the walls that's unheard of this time of year ... i heard in the private owners corporate party bison was served ... >>my wife growing up was a cubs fan her mother and father were big cubs fans that's a very special thing ... being in a place where you have 40,000 people behind you all the time i feel it will be lots of fun out there i wanted to go smoothly today >>it's christmas new year's and your birthday all wrapped up into one day that's opening day for me ... >>jeff baker is having a special opening day he is in the starting lineup he is one of the best utility man in baseball he will start at first base ... he was a rookie playing third base in colorado about six years ago we began at about 1230 everyone

. >> sheila bair always a pleasure to talk to you. now senior adviser with the pew charitable trust. >>> coming up on "your $$$$$," how president obama's election bid may hinge more on what happens in europe than in ohio. that's next. cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. >>> could europe's economic crisis push our refrigerator i will recovery in reverse. europe's unemployment numbers are down alarming. spain's jobless rate up 24% sparking riots there this week. its debt has just been downgraded. greece, portugal, ireland above the 10% mark in terms of unemployment. meanwhile austerity measures in france haven't won president nicolas sarkozy many friends of he's faci

>> we have, our chief technology officers here today, tom bair's done an extraordinary job in a relatively short period of time really improving the sec's governance over i.t. so we are thoughtful and careful and prioritize how we are going to spend our money and also bringing great depth of knowledge about technologies generally to the agency. i would hope that in two or three years that the edgar system, built in the 1990s, last modernized in 2001, would be a simp to use, positive user friendly experience for both public companies and for sec staff that you have to use it and investors have to use it so that there's, and that we can -- that we decrease the costs of operation and maintenance of that system rather dramatically. that sec.gov, designed in the '90s and never updated, the gateway to edgar and many other soerss of sec information, is, again, updated, has interactive capacity, works in realtimto get information out, and again, we believe we can cut the costs of operating that system by as much as 45%. we would like to have most importantly and most fundamentally and chairwoman e

and i'm dina bair. we welcome our viewers who are watching us america and on the web. wgn's jae miller is live in the newsroom with the latest. the judge set bond at 150- thousand dollars. during the bond hearing george zimmerman addressed trayvon martin's parents...with an apology. under the condition of his bond...zimmerman will be under gps monitoring and is ordered to have no contact with the vicitm's family, no possession of firearms and no use of any controlled substances. he also must contact authorites every three days. several witnesses testified on his behalf including members of his family by telephone because they feared for their safety ... >>his face was swollen quite a bigt.... there were two gashes on the back of his head. >>any evidence that conflicts are witnesses anything that conflicts with the contention that mr. trayvon martin assaultive first ... >>other than what was told to us there are no contradicting stories to the judge did allow zimmerman to leave the state but says that needs to be worked out with law enforcement officials. the driver of

and i'm dina bair. we welcome our viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web. w-g-n's julie unruh is live on the south side with details. starting next week the chicago loop could resemble a militarized zone in today's sun- times aberration red zone was laid out outfitting teams and battle gear and the city was surprised to learn of this as well ... from harrison north to adams and then from state street on the east to franklin on the west this area is where thousands of federal employees work and where government offices are located buildings like the federal courthouse and others ... officers in battle gear will be caring non lethal long guns and beanbag weapons and there will be highly visible there will not be stopping people from entering the zone but their job is to secure and protect it ... the chicago financial district is also believed to be a target of protesters the director of the summit herself could not have been more surprised to learn about this red zone

by a chicago police detective is taking legal action good afternoon i'm steve sanders and i'm dina bair we welcome our viewers were watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web ... >>lawyers for the family of rekia boyd say there was no reason for officers to fire his weapon on the corner of 15th and albany avenue ... >>it was ruled that no gun was ever found ... this is a blatant falsehood >>the police account according to montgomery is not true and the off-duty detective identified in the lawsuit fired 6-10 shots into a crowd of people nine days ago in the lawndale neighborhood ... a man in that group standing on the corner mell put off to the police officer and his car who was off-duty the man who sounded off got hit in the hand but rekia boyd was shot and the head and she was rushed to mount sinai hospital where she later died her death has sparked a firestorm of protests and community leaders lashed out at police in the use of excessive force the incident is under investigation by the independent please review authority the detective said he feared for his life a ma

and i'm dina bair. we welcome our viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web. wgn's tonya francisco is live in southwest suburban alsip with our top story. the father his mother and a third woman have been taken into custody ... another child has also been taken into protective custody porter stone is doing fine he's getting treatment at a local area hospital ... there is no explanation why the family abducted that child and traveled here to alsip three adults and two children including porter stone were taken into custody shortly after 1:00 this morning the description matched what was in the amber alert and let us to this hotel ... the child was fine and taken into protective custody and transfer for medical evaluation he was abducted from st. louis children's hospital the father jeffrey stone was faking a trip to the hospital pharmacy and instead of debt to the child and left the hospital even though he did not have legal custody he is in a bitter divorce with the bo

>>and i'm dina bair we welcome viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web >>george zimmerman was slipped into the seminole county jail in sanford florida last night ... >>he is stressed he is tired he spent to alot with the way the case is being handled today >>the only silver lining in all of this is that my brother is safe he most likely cannot be hurt or injured in the way he has spent on the run and being underground for some time special prosecutor angela corey announced the news at a press conference as the trayvon martin family watched from washington d.c. >>we have a long way to go and we have faith >>i believe they feel relieved and they now feel that with their child is get is getting recognized and that trayvon martin matters >>there are high emotions and animosity around the case for my client would want that bearing down on george zimmerman or his family we just want the case to be worked out fairly george zimmerman will appear before the judge today to press pool cameras will be able to take those proceedings from behind a glass window jur

>>and i'm dina bair that story in just a minute but first: we have a live report from tonya francisco ... >>illinois state police have been investigating human remains found here on the interstate 55 no identification has been found autopsy results are pending. a telecommunications worker in the area yesterday afternoon discovered these remains in a grassy area just south of the interest that interstate ... the illinois police is now investigating. these remains were found partially clothed no information as far as identity age or gender of these remains illinois state police are working investigation and we will stay with it and provide that information as soon as it becomes available a city council plans to drop the fine for speeding ... but the cameras will have something to do with it ... when it comes to the mayor's speech camera plan the aldermen in the city would like to slow things down >>the speed bumps are everywhere in chicago especially around schools and parks according to the transportation apartment 10,000 have been put in since 2005 and by most accounts they are effect

>>and i'm dina bair we welcome our viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the internet >>police say someone tied a t- shirt to the door at the nearby recreation center and said that on fire police still looking for the culprit ... there was no major damage to the church or the community center just to the door leading into the building father michael pfleger said twice bistrobefore hate related objects have then left at the door ... >>in the scope of things this is nothing maybe it's someone trying to send a message so they obviously must be getting our message in that is that we will not stop doing what we do >>surveillance video will be used to identify the would-be arsonists >>we have a camera you can see the person walking up at about 2:00 this morning coming across the street coming up to the door and lighting this >>the incident is coming during holy week ... >>to put it in perspective we are celebrating holy week and the burning of the door is nothing compared to the crap sacrifice made by christ >>sacrifice that was made by christ ... >> a suburb

and i'm dina bair. we welcome our viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web. wgn's robert jordan is live at city hall with today's top story. the supporters of both measures say that the city is broke and out of money and that a partnership between financial institutions the city and private interests are a good way to repair infrastructure and make capital improvements but the council says that the measure has not been an ins acted nearly enough >>we need equity and accountability ... >>summit to assess steak that community groups want to make sure that this infrastructure trust doesn't go through without checks and balances attached to the measure ... they complain that some of the deals in the past were flawed and were pushed through the council hastily >>now they're putting in speed cameras in red light cameras to supplement income that they use to get from parking meters ... the aldermen are expected to pass this measure calling for the partnership to rebuild the

three family members were killed have been released good afternoon i'm steve sanders >>and i'm dina bair wgn's amy rutledge has the latest from 26 in california a judge has now ruled that the rest of the world can hear those 911 tapes it's a call from julia hudson after returning in october 20th 082 herself side home rick turning from work she noticed a bullet hole in the front door with her mother's lifeless bloodied body lying on the floor inside her son was missing in her brother was also dead inside of the house ... >>oh my god! >>i'm sorry i can understand what you are saying you have to stop screaming >>somebody killed my mother ... please come help me ... >>what is the address ... >>oh my god ... 7019 cell yale ... >>does she need an ambulance >>i'm so scared please yes >>there was concern that these tapes released could prejudice the jury ... the judge ruled it should not affect the jury they were told not to watch media coverage of the case ... no opinion was issued in this matter from the william balfour attorney ... he allegedly left the scene with julian king who was later fo

mortgage payments may soon be targeted for for closure good afternoon i am steve sanders >>and i'm dina bair the government's mortgage settlement with big banks could unleash a flood of home seizures marcella raymond is live on the south side with details on why the foreclosure dam may burst >>people who would like to stay in their homes might be forced to work with the banks more to keep them ... many of us know this could happen to anyone you can lose your job or not get financially in a bind and all of a sudden you cannot pay your mortgage ... the $26 billion mortgage settlement between dozens of states including illinois and the top five banks, bank of america j.p. morgan chase citibank wells fargo and allied financial is expected to speed up the foreclosure process by providing spit stricter guidelines for the banks to follow when repossessing homes. millions of homeowners have had to make these tough decisions between bills and mortgage payments ... many have been able to stand their homes in spite of default ... this couple hopes they will lose their home of 47 years ... we now have t

month-old baby bair mother has led to tighten security at some offices of maryland's office of social services. >> the procedures will go into effect on monday. >> the child has been upgraded to fair condition. she is at hopkins children's center. security measures were in place, but now they have increased those security procedures. >> the events on tuesday were a terrible tragedy. >> the department of human resources secretary of first concern for the eight-month-old who was stabbed multiple times by her mother. >> our thoughts and prayers remain with the young child. she is recovering and we hope she will make a speedy recovery. >> he commands staff for intervening in the attack. -- commends staff for interfering -- intervening in the attack. but the question is how kenisha thomas got a night for security. >> the suspect did walk through the metal detector. we believe the knife was concealed in the bag. >> kenisha thomas she came to the office for a supervised visit with her daughter. she became agitated when the hour-long session was ending. she pulled the kitchen knife from her p

>>and i'm dina bair we welcome our viewers who are just tuning and around the country on wgn america and was watching on the internet randi belisomo has more on our top story: another tragedy struck in this northern suburb edward shotchutt became the third student to be struck by a train ... in february 1st student was struck by what his family believes was a suicide and in january another student walked in front of a metra train and has since been rolled suicide by the county officials within days of the second death here suicide prevention advocates began to call the school offering education tips this high school has formed a task force with parents teacher's and community leaders we have social workers we can talk to hear >>we apologize for some difficulties with the audio that was randi belisomo from lake forest a convicted murderer who finished parole for months ago has been charged with killing three people and a south side home police said curtis a. davis jr. forced open the door of an apartment and west with lawn on tuesday and shot three people inside he spent 18 years in p

>>and i'm dina bair. we welcome our viewers for watching us around the country on wgn america and on the internet. f monica schneider is live at the cook county criminal courts building with the top story this trial could potentially be one month long ... one juror was dismissed for cause already. there's a pool of 150 people and the main concern is that the celebrity of jennifer hudson will influence this jury. the judge is charles burns and he is questioning the jury today tomorrow and possibly wednesday to come up with 12 individuals and six alternates individuals to serve on this panel. prosecutors claim that william balfour killed three members of the jennifer hudson family in october 2008, angry over the failing marriage to the sister jennifer hudson ... jennifer hudson is expected to be in court on the trial begins later this month prospective jurors may see her later this week in her appearance on american idol that show that began it all for the singer ... will there be difficulty for the jurors

>>and i'm dina bair we welcome our viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web. tonya francisco is live with a report on the top story , there has been a development in this story ... the group of protesters have reorganized thinking about their next move after being dismantled by the police last night for the second time in nearly one week chicago police moved in overnight to disperse the crowd gathered outside of the woodlawn at the delta health center who are protesting closure ... the police knocked down the tent city >>i was arrested last week and then i thought no not again ... and they tried to scare us ... the city of chicago is talking about consolidating 12 mental health centers into sex ... in order to streamline services many here feel that the money needed to save them as just a drop in the bucket for the mayor ... >>if you can raise $1 billion from an african-american president you can come out with a $3 million that we need for the center ... >>the impact on the consolidation consequences have been weighed ... >>if we keep continuing to

have high school kid being expelled because they didn't like a class or coach on their or coach nine bair myspace page.e-year-old in one case sexy defendant in court on facebook and told her how to plead. in other case -- people are so used to asking their friends for advice about everythingful the woman actually posted the facts of the criminal case, asking her friends to vote up or down whether to fry this guy. so we need to decide what is important to us, and if legislators kept that in mind, they could make a big difference. >> host: this is the book we're talking about. the title "i know who you are and saw what you did." we're taking calls. >> caller: my question is kind of off the wall but i don't belong to facebook, but how does -- can i still get the information on me that is undesirable or credit unworthy or anything like that? >> host: i guess his question is, is anybody safe? or is everyone vulnerable? >> guest: well, if you use that computer at all, if you use the internet you're at risk. so if you. >> host: if you charge with a credit card. >> guest: but here's some interest

. >> joining us now robert bair and ann marie slaughter. bob, do you think the u.n. has been played? >> i think bashar al assad has bought time. he knows what he's doing. his intention is the same as it's been. that's destroy the opposition. he intends to wipe them out. he doesn't care what the u.n. wants. yes, they've been played. >> is there any reason the u.n. to believe what bashar al assad says about doing a cease fire? >> anderson, i agree with bob. i don't think he's going to stop. i don't think there's any reason any of us should think he's going to stop tomorrow. he will say whatever it takes to give him more chance to keep going. >> you say copian can be there every other day and it won't make a difference. >> not at all. they're fighting for their survival. i talked to someone in the regime and they figure about 30% of the people support bashar al assad. because they're afraid of what the opposition's going to do. he told me they will hold on until the bitter end until one side is completely won. >> and anne marie, is there a time to resolve this diplomati

bennett bair is happy, happy to be part of a team.e's one of the managers for lake braddock's varsity boy has cross team, an unassuming freshman humble about his role. >> fill water bottles, motivate the team and that's probably about it. >> reporter: but bennett's role is a lot bigger than what he will tell you. he's a teen-ager living with mild cerebral palsy. his special need prevent him from playing high school sports, but that won't keep him from the side lines. >> to see him out there getting involved with this being part of the team, getting involved in the school, it makes me feel good and i'm just proud of him he went down and took it upon himself to do that. >> reporter: part of the team is exactly what bennett is. complete with home and away jerseys, responsibilities and a relationship with his coaches and teammates who he now considers family. >> brought him out of his shell and the boys embraced him and i think it's great for other special needs kind of children to be involved like this because it gives them an example i

bob bair is with me now from berkeley, california. he's a former undercover cia operative. this place frighten you or does it seem completely apropos? >> it's got the potential to be intrusive. right now the national security agency seeks warrants when it listens to america's conversations. in a national security crisis, could this change? yes. it's amazing what the national security agency can get into now. broadband, e-mails. cell phone calls. and g and with algarisms, they can sort it all out. the security system has a lot of money and it's gone after communications across the world and it needs storage, it needs databases. enormous computers that take up a lot of space, and they need people working at it. you know, this is not much of a surprise. >> what is it likely hold, in order to justify some $3 billion price tag? >> well, let me take a communication like skype. there was a time, it's broadband. they couldn't get into it, but now they can actually get in not only to the mettadata, calls going back and forth, they can get into, for instance, what's called the payloa

including congressman barney frank, the co-sponsor of the dodd-frank banking reform bill, and sheila bair, the outspoken former chair of the federal deposit insurance corporation. all three see the need for reform but basically believe in the banking system. others, like my next guest, think it needs to be scrapped and rebuilt as part of a new vision of democracy -- one that, much like occupy wall street, calls on each of us to become an agent of political change. like paul volcker, carne ross is an economist, but he's also a trained diplomat who was on his way to the top of the british foreign service. he was the speechwriter for britain's foreign secretary, and went on to become that country's middle east expert at the un security council. he became disillusioned and distraught by the march to war in iraq and his own role in selling it. he quit -- although not before giving secret testimony to an official inquiry probing how intelligence on iraqi weapons of mass destruction was deliberately misused by american and british officials. since then, carne ross has founded independent diploma

and if i can pop a different question, your colleague, sheila bair, about her concern over being in a bond bubble. she said you should declare victory and you should do something about puncturing that bubble before it gets too out of control. can you respond to that, too? >> i'm declaring victory, i think it's still a little too premature to declare victory. i think keeping interest rates low is still appropriate for our economy. as for the bond bubble, interest rates are low for a lot of reasons, including monetary policy, of course, but also include a weak economy, low inflation expectations, and safe haven demands. of course, interest rates will arise at some point. we hope that they do because that would be an indication that the economy is strengthening and i think it's important for holders of long-term securities to manage their risks and pay attention to that. but all of that being said, again, there are both good reasons to continue monetary ease and interest rates to be low. the first part of your question was -- oh, participation. actually, we had a very good discussion of

team president larry bair has plans to develop the area south of the ballpark. the $1.6 million project would include new housing, shopping, and an 8-acre park. the team would also transform pier 48. ground breaking is not expected before 2015. >> big deal out there. >> yeah, huge. >>> delta could be looking to get into the oil business. we will explain why coming up. >>> and voters say it's more dangerous than drugs or violence. the surprising numbers behind a new survey on childhood obesity next. >>> and if you want more news, more traffic, more weather and good conversation, you know where to get it. facebot ba never in my lifetime did i think i could walk 60 miles in 3 days. 60 miles in 3 days is-- is huge. if my mom can fight and beat breast cancer, i can walk 60 miles. you just put one foot in front of the other, and you know that you're walking for such a great cause that you just keep going. (man) that you have all these people coming together for one common goal. (woman) the goal is to bring an end to breast cancer. (woman) the fund-raising was the easi

. -- shiela bair said agencies are formed by a broader understanding of other risks in financial institutions. place in consumer protection policy in a separate organization, apart from existing expertise and examination infrastructure, could ultimately result in less effective protections for the consumer. if we are not able to mandate coordination between the cfpb and financial regulators through changes in law, my hope is this some u.n. -- this semiannual hearing can at least serve as a platform for discussion of the key concern so many provincial regulators have on this issue, and which we from past experience have learned the hard way is a big problem with bifurcated regulation. >> i also want to thank mr. cordray for being here today. one of the biggest accomplishment contained in the dodd-frank act was the creation of the consumer financial protection bureau. finally we have a call on the -- cop on the beat whose sole purpose is to ensure american consumers are getting a fair shake in the marketplace. in the past four years, in has been dominated by efforts to clean up the mess created

prior to her departure, sheila bair had this to say about this problem. she said banking agencies' assessments of risks to consumers are closely linked with and informed by a broader understanding of other risks in financial institutions. placing consumer protection policy-setting activities in a separate organization apart from existing expertise and examines infrastructure could ultimately result in less effective protections for the consumer. so if we're not able to mandate coordination between the cfpb and the prudential regulators through changes in law, my hope is that this semiannual hearing before congress can at least serve for a platform, for a discussion of the key concern that so many prudential regulators have on this issue and which we by past experience have learned the hard way is a big problem with bifurcated regulation. i yield back, mr. chairman. >> thank you. mr. baca is recognized for a minute and saw 15 seconds -- and 15 seconds. >> thank you very much, mr. chair and ranking member. i also want to thank mr. cordray for being here tod

. >> host: con bair shom make no law prohibiting a religion or exercise their of or their rights the people to assemble two petition the government for redress of grievances. good morning on dead democrats line. >> congratulations. number one, is the documentary address citizens united case? second, what about the corollary the first amendment the right to hear people's speech in connection with prosecution of prisoners in guantanamo or other issues with communication emanating from the middle east on subjects that are not politically popular here so we can hear the speech to understand the point* of view. >> host: did you take on those topics leo pfeifer? >> wish i could have but i do have the eight minute time limit. freedom of the press encompasses so many things. >> host: you reference other points of view and the ability to do so? >> we and joy those freedoms -- freedoms there are limitations to what we enjoy a and there are restrictions and simply to yell fire in a crowded theater creates a public disruption. and concerns. if they feel conflict of telling the truth? >> did you

i mean, they were -- i think sheila bair, now coming to know, the chairman of the fdic, running the fdic, she was one of the early people to go to -- in sight to go to greenspan that the fed and say look, this is looking rather dangerous. there is another now that mr. mr. gramlich, who was governor of the fed, he was raising concerns by 2004. but people from wall street who started to bet against subprimal loans in 2005, but you could say unfortunately no one really raised the alarm when i might have made a difference. c-span: in this next clip mark pittman, and i know that he's died since then and i will ask you about that in a moment, and also david is it attasani, a mortgage broker. but before we show this, where did you find a mortgage broker? >> guest: david attasani was not a mortgage broker to be he worked on wall street for a number of firms and he asked us in fact not to mention the various firms where he worked, but they all would be extremely familiar to you come and, you know, as he describes in the film, some of them no longer existed by the time we went to see him. >> guest

and i think was your suggestion they are is the human rights advocates bair for greater responsibility than they consistently showed lawyer to do some of that wayne themselves. and i question his this, having sat around a variety of different tables to discuss these issues. and my mind there is a big difference between the senior staff meeting at amnesty international and the interagency meeting at the white house. at the amnesty discussion, you know, we are human rights advocate than our job is to bring human rights lands to whatever the debate may be. you know, the interagency table where you have the state department human rights bureau and you might have the pentagon and the treasury department, you know, this night different voices at the table and facilitator of that conversation has to pull it all together. human rights is only one piece. i guess my question is, do you really see it as their responsibility as the human rights advocates to do that when a nap or is rather their job to feed the human rights and let the political process and other actors balance out those equities.

sheila bair head of the fdic also part of the debate. she contributed to cnn money. watch out is the fed pushing us into another bubble. sheer here is a little bit what she said. the fed should declare victory and not intervene if the markets want to push rates up a little bit. this will help savers and small businesses to get loans. we're talking to you your personal view of the fed's low interest rates and how it affected family income. do you think this is helping or hurting. lakewood, washington. next up to holly, a republican there. >> caller: thank you for taking my call this morning. i honestly i was going to question whether or not the low interest rates have hurt my family because it is just me but, now that i look back at the past and, of the past few years, just from the crash of 2008, if i just go back to that date and look how much stuff has been stolen from me and i mean, honestly, i would be taken to court by people who, like i would rent from and i complained they weren't fixing anything when i'm paying these exorbitant rents. they won't fix windows o