that is steve bannon. that is the effect of steve bannon saying, "you, mr.re going to keep your eye on the ball. you're going to keep saying these things. you're not going to be swayed by these establishment people in washington who don't have your own interests at heart." >> so let me state this as clearly as i possibly can: we are going to keep radical islamic terrorists the hell out of our country. >> u.s.a.! u.s.a.! >> narrator: it was a steve bannon production. that night, as they returned to washington on marine one, steve bannon was seated right next to the president. and bannon was by his side in the weeks that followed, as the white house was gripped by one crisis after another. >> two words: shock and surprise. >> breaking news tonight: president trump has fired fbi director james comey. >> narrator: the administration faced its biggest challees so far. >> fired fbi director james comey wrote a memo... >> just department appointed a special counsel to... >> narrator: they responded with the combative strategy that had brought them to power. fightin

they need to dump steve bannon. bannon must go and go now. unclear where he wants bannon to go. he's not in government anymore. >> donald trump sees a kindred spirit in steve bannon, a guy that charges the barricades and everybody rights off and says he doesn't know what he's talking about but he's really right. donald trump will continue to listen to steve bannon, and as long as that happens and takes his phone call, he's not going away. >> if bannonism can't win in alabama, you have a fundamental problem. >> and they're a core constituency in the republican party that is a bannon and moore constituency. >> we will play with this with congressman king when he's on the show. debb debbie dingell was on with alisyn. me too matters. decency towards minority and women matters, and my wallet matters well. flint, michigan, they are still hit hard. take bannon out of it and that's a raw populism that matters and that's why the vote margin that just got narrowed in the senate just got narrower. >> and then marginalized by identity politics. that demo

bannon. equally bracing to hear peter king, long island republican say the guy looks like a drunk on stage. someone else last week said it looks like he sleeps in his car. is steve bannon capable of any humility after defeat? >> for the record, steve bannon does not drink. so just clear that up as a matter of fact. >> we should. good point. thank you. >> no problem, brian. i do think this morning i spent some time with bannon, i listened to him take calls on his radio show, and i did sense for the first time an uncertainty about him. he quizzed his callers with questions like is the energy among the conservative grass roots still there. he wanted to know if moore was the right candidate or not. and, you know, he knows the answers to these questions. he's asking them because he is himself having doubts, i think. publicly, however, he is going to remain defiant. he sees absolutely nothing to gain politically from cozying up to mitch mcconnell and the republican establishment because his own rep

that's just steve bannon style. seeing now if you follow the consequences of the steve bannon model, it's a losing model. huge influence with the president, on the cover of "time "magazine. and look what happened. look how long it took for this white house have a quote-unquote accomplishment. it took bannon the better part of the first year, and at this point president trump is far weaker. he is the most unpopular first term president in recent memory perhaps in history and it's because he went down the bannon model for so long. >> is certainly appears in instincttually trump is bannon. >> absolutely. i don't think it's correct to deposit donald trump is this good naturered fellow and he's been led to the dark side by steve bannon. the reason why the bannon-trump partnership worked in the first place is they were largely simp pat co. they're both at the core i think essentially white nationalists and who have this xenophobic and i think largely racist agenda they're pursuing. bannon is somewhat more consist in pursu

bannon, this is a huge defeat for you. >> now we don't have ready to go all that video of steve bannon standing up with the microphone, doing his stand-up routine in alabama, having more to say about this than he knew. but maria theresa, there he is tonight getting into the escalade and doesn't have a word to say. >> well, because he lost famously. he went to alabama more times than president trump. he thought this was a slam dunk. again, president trump won alabama a year ago by 28 points, and this was literally the alabama voters saying that not only did they not like the brand of steve bannon, but they did not actually like the brand of donald trump. and let's not look at this in the vacuum. the fact that the president also lost in a bigly way in virginia and new jersey, there is a wave coming. and the person who's going to wake up with heartburn while mitch mcconnell today said, you know, i told you so, tomorrow he's going to wake up with heartburn, because now the senate is definitely in play. look at nevada, look at arizona where you have a large group of latino voters coming the

bannon was involved in that. >> per help that help draw bannon and trump back together again. >> similarpersonalities, do it now, sayed, sometimes trump might move too quickly but definitely a similar personali personality. >> host: chapter six talks about generation zero, can you explain that? what caused you to name it that? >> guest: generation zero was the name of a movie bannon did. it talked about the 2000 and crash. the idea was that the future was being robbed, americans given all of the wealth loss in the dead those being accumulated, the generation that exists now which is sort of the millennial's in younger people when you look at the deficit we will have nothing left. >> so where was he working in 2008 when the crash happened? >> when the crash happened he was still out in california doing his own business he left goldman sachs long time ago. he went out to california and was first out there to drum up business but then he formed his own firm. increasingly he got into documentaries and making his own filmmaking. initially made one about reagan in 2004. in 2008 he made other d

there's a neediness there that donald trump knows that he needs bannon's advice. >> but why would bannon tell that story? >> that specific quote is in the context of donald trump wavering on supporting roy moore. steve bannon thought that roy moore's election was a litmus test on whether the allegations against donald trump and his history of alleged sexual harassment and assault would become a live political issue. and for ivanka trump to go out there and criticize roy moore, bannon's political -- >> which was the sane thing to do. >> yes, but bannon's political strategy was like you're now opening up your father to the say allegations and it's stupid to even go there. that's really his cold political calculus on that one. >> we know he doesn't like jared and ivanka, but he goes on to say jared kushner is a railhead of all bad decisions. he goes on to talk about a shouting match between himself and ivanka. why build this kind of narrative when his relationship with the president does matter so much? and president trump doesn't want to read the story? talking bad about ivanka and jared?

bannon, this is a huge defeat for you. >> now we don't have ready to go all that video of steve bannong up with the microphone, doing his stand-up routine in alabama, having more to say about this than he knew. but maria theresa, there he is tonight getting into the escalade and doesn't have a word to say. >> well, because he loest famously. he went to alabama more times than president trump. he thought this was a slam dunk. again, president trump won alabama a year ago by 28 points, and this was literally the alabama voters saying that not only did they not like the brand of steve bannon, but they did not actually like the brand of donald trump. and let's not look at this in the vacuum. the fact that the president also loews lost in a bigly way in virginia and new jersey, there is a wave coming. and the person who's going to wake up with heartburn while mitch mcconnell today said, you know, i told you so, tomorrow he's going to wake up with heartburn, because now the senate is definitely in play. look at nevada, look at arizona where you have a large group of latino voters coming thei

what happens to bannon now? what does bannon argue?laming mitch mcconnell. >> well, it's a huge embarrassment for bannon. i mean, he went out and jumped in four square behind roy moore. and, in a sense, steve bannon is the guy who nationalized this election because he came in and he said, look, this is going to be a proxy battle in this war between the hard right nationalists that i represent and the gop establishment that mitch mcconnell represents. and you know, the floor got wiped with his candidate last night. mcconnell was the clear victor in that showdown. and i think it does a lot to kind of puncture this aura that bannon has worked very hard to build up that he has some kind of psychic connection with trump voters, with the republican base that he can transfer to other candidates in other republican primaries and potentially knock off gop incumbents and eventually mcconnell himself. >> someone last night on one of the panels, i can't remember who it was, maybe it was someone here, who said that when you get early into politics

anyway, anyway, bannon-- [cheers and applause] bannon..., but there were times where you could tell that charlie rose was getting under his skin. just look at his face when he's asked questions that he doesn't like. - you know that this white house leaks like nobody's ever seen a white house leak, and that's where the reporters are getting the story, and they're getting a story about conflict between you and h. r. mcmaster. they're getting stories about conflict between you and jared kushner. - what the hell is that? like, just, like, what is that? i almost felt like if this interview had gone on any longer, i would have been seriously worried for the safety of charlie rose. - and that's where the reporters are getting the story, and they're getting a story about conflict between you and h. r. mcmaster. they're getting all these stories... - [screams] - we'll be right back. derefreshing. pepsi. ah. my wish was a clubhouse, but we call it "the wish house." people visit national parks from all over the world. food tastes better when you don't

he blames steve bannon. believes steve bannon sold him a bill of goods and he needed to support moore and moore would win and he quite correctly blames moore for being an abysmal candidate and then there's also some talk about -- and i don't know this is the president himself but about -- i would call it a shake-up but a rejiggering or overhaul of the political operation which they've been discussing before but last night's election result simply accelerate that conversation. >> and ann gerren, the president has everything on the line. for republicans running in 2018, it's control. right now they control the senate, they control the house and that's far preferable to being in the minority. for donald trump who is under one investigation for potential collusion and with the growing drum beat that feels like the beginning of something that could be much bigger on sexual harassment and past claims of sexual harassment against this president, he could be facing a two-pronged attack at his presidency at the very

author of bannon always the rebel. this is really a book, i thoroughly enjoyed it this weekend and totally commend it. but i was looking up about you and since most conservative writers, people that are conservatives in general life and having a wikipedia page that makes them look somewhat crazy, i was pleased, i guess, to see you don't have a wikipedia page, most conservatives like me, you can go through, read the wikipedia page and if you really know them well, you say this is a bunch of garbage, this makes them look crazy. i'm thrilled to have you on. i was going to ask you about some of the things that made you look crazy on wikipedia that were not accurate. not there. that's fantastic. but we do want to have you above the radar as you talk bannon and your work on white house dossier exposing things that have been going on in the last several years in the white house and on through today and continues to be a passion of yours, isn't it? >> it is very much. white house dossier is something that i started in 2010. i

why doesn't bannon think trump will finish -- >> bannon spent time giving speeches and exstoling theof nationalism that trump ran on and won, and it's bannon's vision more than trump's, and bannon is behaving like a presidential candidate and has a connection with the trump base of the republican party. bannon said publicly he's doing this on trump's behalf, that he is trying to keep trump loyal to the ideas he ran on and won on, and you can see in the piece bannon is frustrated that trump doesn't believe in most of the stuff, and so bannon has talked about well maybe i could step in, these are my ideas, after all, i'm the guy that got president trump elected, bannon believes, so why not step into that role if trump were to vacate it. >> with the two men harbor contempt with each other, but they can't quit each other. that's a line in there. >>> we're following a lot of news this morning, so let's get right to it. >> i hardly know the man and i am not going to say i want you to pledge allegiance. >> mccabe says former james comey discussed what he talked about with trump. >> when it

i'm not sticking up for steve bannon. i thought everything he said was wrong, reprehensible and hypocritical. the trifecta of offensiveness. but nonetheless, he is -- he is in the ascendency in that race -- >> moore is. >> moore is and bannon is. he picked the right -- the winning candidate in the primary there and he may be riding that horse to the senate. >> ryan, i'm sorry to be cynical here but it looks like they are all track touts -- or at the race track or it looks like moore will win and i'm going to endorse him now and that includes mcconnell and the president and that includes bannon. all of them. they are jumping on a winning horse. >> it looks like he's going to win. it puts senator mcconnell in a difficult position. he called for him to get out. if he gets to the senate there is an ethic investigation right away. but look, the team isn't on the same page. the republicans wanted to get moore out tv and trump came around and said i'm going to endorse humanitari endorse him and the rnc is not thrilled about this

the same true with bannon. he knows with both of those that they can speak to his base and they can understand his base and in some ways better than he can. it is dependent on what he sees in front of him. and that matters. >> got to take a break. our panel is next. the "usa today" editorial board saying that is editorial board of the "usa today." we'll hear from a member of that board ahead. are are doan's doan's you. only at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. ancestrydna can pinpoint where your ancestors are from... and the paths they took to a new home. could their journey inspire yours? order your kit at ancestrydna.com thhit the road with.ather... no one i'd rather have dinner and a movie with. no one i'd rather lean on. being in love is an amazing thing. being in love with your best friend... is everything. ever us. one diamond for your best friend... one for your true love. for the one woman in your life who's both. ever us. available at kay, jared and zales. >>> for the first time i

but roy moore was steve bannon's candidate. it's hard to say whether bannon still has as much influence as he did before, but i think the president definitely still listens to him. i think roy moore is a key testament to that. despite getting blowback from his own daughter, mitch mcconnell, members of his own party, the president still endorsed roy moore in the election despite the sexual assault allegations against him. i think the president still definitely listens. >> yes, well, kevin, the president left for mar-a-lago for the holiday. it marks the president's 106th visit to one of his properties in 2017, according to some reports. but he didn't hold a traditional end of year news conference. >> i was surprise td at that. we were at the white house yesterday right before the helicopter took off. he shouted merry christmas after he signed that tax bill. i was surprised simply because i thought he would want to talk about the tax bill and whatnot. i'm told by folks there that they just wanted to stay on message and keep it all

i think there will be an audience for bannonism.look, he's the outsider that this part of the base wanted. but it's not working in other places and not working in many of the senate seats and if you lose a lot of those seats, it's the person who they support. i'm not sure that that actually works. you may end up with bannon-type wins in primaries that do end up torpedoing other senate races. it's a real risk. >> stewart, this was a very close race. but had roy moore won, even just by a little bit, i'm wondering if people would be saying steve bannon was sticking by him and this is the next wave of bannon candidates. >> listen, anderson, you and i know, everybody knows if roy moore had won, steve bannon would have been up on that stage last night instead of hiding back in the back room. but listen, i just want to say one thing. those of us who weren't for roy moore who are republicans, i don't think we should be patting ourselves on the back too much because this was a race that was won by african-americans in alabama and i think it'

do you keep running with steve bannon? more and listen to him or ivanka trump? what do you do? >> i think with t surprise of the trump election, there were those that said all the political rules we've lived by are thrown out the window. that characteristics like likability and decency and kindness and graciousness, which are the hallmarks of the regan presidency, the first bush presidency, those are of us who are drawn to the party because of those qualities that they're no longer needed, no longer valued at the ballot box, i don't think that's the case. and when you look at candidates doing well these are very likable, decent people who are about bringing people together and not dividing. say what you will, my friend lost in virginia. but he lost to someone who was very likable. and jones is just a likable, decent guy that you could be for even if you didn't agree with him on every issue. i think that's where the political part of america still beats and to look at trump and say this is all thrown out the window would be

i have a very good relationship as you know with steve bannon. steve's been a friend of mine for a long time. i like steve a lot. steve is doing what steve thinks is the right thing. >> remember what he said about steve bannon who happens to be fresh off a big defeat in alabama. he's unleashed about his time at the white house. startling revelations as they say, published today, in a new interview in article by vanity fair. donald trump serving out his presidential term, and sharing details about a strained relationship with various trump family members. the article suggests that what started out as camaraderie forged through an unlikely friendship, has devolved over time. he went on to describe trump this way. he's much more moderate, he's an accommodationist. back in october, you might recall vanity fair reported bannon believed trump had a 30% chance of finishing his full term. he went even further this time. trump has lost a step and is like an 11-year-old child. the article also shedding light on the controversy surrounding bannon and trump'

, steve bannon who's always ready to attack republicans like mitch mcconnell, steve bannon who always tries to pretend to the small cult of followers that he is the toughest guy in the room, that steve bannon was slapped in to a stunned silence last night by the voters of alabama. this is the way steve bannon's adventure in alabama will always now be remembered. >> mr. bannon, this is a huge defeat for you. >> a stunned silence by the man who alabama voters ignored or hated just as much as washington republicans hate him. steve bannon was immediately attacked by mitch mcconnell last night in a statement of mcconnell's super pac blaming bannon for what happened in alabama. donald trump's marching orders to alabama were ignored just as much as steve bannon's. >> get out and vote for roy moore. do it. do it. do it. >> do it. do it. they didn't do it. here is the robocall that donald trump made to republican voters in alabama. >> hi, this is president donald trump and i need alabama to go vote for roy moore. it is so important. we're already making america great again. i'm going to make a

where else might bannon try to wage this war against the establishment?ll, arizona's another big target. you have kelly ward who was supported previously by the mercer family, who are a family of donors close to bannon, close to president trump. she is probably going to be facing a more establishment candidate in arizona. those are the two key races where the question now for republicans, including president trump, is what can you do to ensure one of those candidates that maybe isn't going to be as strong in a general election setting doesn't advance, how can you insert yourself into those contests? >> thanks so much. >>> coming up, questions about the robert mueller russia investigation after some eyebrow raising texts from an fbi special agent about president trump are made public by the justice department. we're going to talk to the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee next. ♪ for every hour that you're idling in your car, you're sending about half a gallon of gasoline up in the air. that amounts, over the course of the week, to about 10

is it bannon? >> i think bannon will be one of the people.onnell. i think this is not going to help his relationship with jeff sessions whose seat this was. and the president has had a very difficult relationship with his attorney general this year because of the reaccusal in the rush is that-related probes. i think it is too soon to say where it's going to go. people in the white house will urge him to stop listening to steve bannon. he remained very influential figure in the west wing. >> he took a shot at trump's daughter. >> he shared that view for having gone out and said the special place in hell line. she is seen for speaking for him and having his proxy in ways aides are not. however, there is some sense that bannon had two rallies for moore himself. the one on monday night became about even else. incident was mitt romney, ivanka trump. it was all over the place. it was less focus what the issues were at hand for vote issers in alabama. that gives people a hook. but, again, the president doesn't like closing the door on a lot of peopl

bannon won. leader of what bannon sees as his transnational populous nationalist movement. whatever that means. i still think that this is what bannon does. he likes to stir things up and knows he can create controversy and get himself in the headlines and create more chaos. that's ultimately his agenda. >> perhaps the anti-bannon forces and the republican party in washington can see this as an opportunity to exploit the trump-bannon decisions. this is what mitch mcconnell said. the political genius on display throwing a seenate seat in the reddest seat in america is hard to ignore. that is referring to alabama. trying to send a message to the president, don't listen to this guy when it comes to senate races. >> let's listen. that's an interesting point. you are at the end of this year. you lost this red state. if you are mitch mcconnell, you are saying mr. president, please listen to us or people we like, but he still listens to him sometimes. >> do you blame steve bannon for doug jones being el

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more hours to fight steve bannon.r image, political progressive channel. i'm not kidding when i say my number one priority in my show is defeat steve bannon and the republicans he supports and the ones donald trump supports. to me that's the most effective way to drive steve bannons and those mind sets out of the town square. republicans will not saddle up to someone who helps them lose all the time. i'm hoping -- i get people think steve bannon is disgusting. i've written articles. despicable, vile, turned proprietary bart into the number one anti-muslim in the nation. ant muslim activist, he -- >> do you believe he should have a voice on sirius xm? >> i believe the speech you don't like is more speech. i believe that in my core. i think in america today we're quickly to silence those. i'll defend klan, anti-muslim bigots right to demonize me in my community because this is america to. me i say respectfully to those outraged, i get it. i don't like it either. don't leave us. join us on the progress channel where we a

we're told the president is unlikely to blame bannon, but austin, whether or not bannon gets some ofme, how damaging is this for him, because he was hoping he had a whole host of new republican candidates. >> given the margins in congress, i think there's a lot of internal talk about what seats and what races do we want to play in, because the repercussion and the damage could be long-term. i would be curious to hear again what the trump whisperer has to say on it. my thought is that alabama basically said listen, we don't want the establishment to pick our candidate. turned out to be a kook. so i think you've got a really big problem that is brewing. >> so the civil war, to his point, where is the civil war now between the bannon side and the rest? >> any other republican would have won this race by double digits. it was steve bannon that got behind roy moore. steve bannon that convinced the president to get behind roy moore, and steve bannon caused them to lose this race. now, if you're a republican donor, if you're someone that gives lots of money to groups that go out and run as

steve bannon, yes, steve bannon, obviously, a big loser. you also, though, i am sorry, you got to look to mitch mcconnell, who was too clever by half. he didn't want mo brooks in there so he tried to undercut mo broovenlths he tried to under cut roy moore. he ended up within a hair of getting roy moore in there. and so, you know, mitch mcconnell owes a part of this, too. he can point at steve bannon, steve bannon can point at him. you know, if they'd gone with mo brooks, a guy who is a hard right conservative, that that's guy, though that would have won this state easily for republicans. we wouldn't be talking about a democrat winning in the state of alabama. >> so i think, willie, and joe, that, definitely elise, that president trump helped doug jones win. i believe his tweet for anybody that was on the fend about president trump, for anybody, any woman on the fence about roy moore, i think his disgutting tweet about for kirsten gillibrand helped doug jones win. >> it may have helped in the last mont t. people in that restaurant in mound t

bubba nt bannon is not just ral for moore. he is accusing incendiary attacks. >>> plus, the trump abuser who wants to take the president to court. glory allred is here to join us. frank, there's so much turmoil. i want to start with you. so much turmoil in our politics. it feels like wheels are coming off the bus. what is going on? what's your take on all of this? >> in terms of the wheel coming off the bus, i talk to my colleagues about this all the time. i'm sure you do. it's existing. exhausting, we have a president that tweets. we have to turn the page to crowd the stage with more action opinion an i don't think americans know how to make sense of it. one of my greatest worries about this president and the presidency, is the provocations, the acts of indecency, the acts of bad judgment, come at us so quickly. they all blur and no one stands out the way it should. and he's flattening americans. he is numbing them that we can't see as clearly as we should. what an offense. >> do you think that's strate c strategic? or his mi

bannon's been on stage for 20 minutes. he was going to bring fire and furry tonight. >> it is fire and fury inside the bar in southern baefl. he started off by saying there's nothing like spending a rainy with deplorables. that was the sweetest thing he said. he lit into people. democrats not surprised, the news media who he calls the opposition party. not surprising. then he's gone after people he calls establishment republicans, mitch mcconnell, jeff flake, arizona u.s. senator. but he reserved his most harsh treatment for mitt romney who ran for president of the united states eight years ago. mitt romney yesterday tweeted roy moore and the u.s. senate would be a stain on the gop and the nation. here's what bannon said about mitt romney. >> talk about another confusion, mitt romney. it was willlard mitt romney's, his tweet, whatever it was, that the only reason i'm going there a minute is you started it. all the insults you made about the president, all that backwards, everything's fine. you've got to jump in here. what

but let's look, steve bannon has lost, steve bannon brought roy moore in, pushed roy moore and roy moore stumbled. he managed to lose alabama. another big loser are people who like the second amendment, people who don't like abortion, people who don't like amnesty. conservative voters have lost an important voice. this is not a good night. we got another one coming up in a year! >> shannon: [laughs]no it's never over. as you all know andea as the president tweeted tonight, it never ends because there is always another election.s richard, walk us through your winners and losers with jones being the winner tonight. >> with jones the winner, i will add to my list. i think black voters were a big winner because they once again showed up for the democratic party in a major way. the other one is "the washington post," who was the first publication to rollout a story about roy moore and ito think they are big winner tonight. the third big winner is the establishment. to go off of what bret was saying a couple of moments ago is they normally have to worry about the guy sleeping downstairs, but n

. >> former trump chief strategist steve bannon on the attack in alabama as president trump doubles down on his endorsement of roy moore. >> president trump hours away from making a significant announcement naming jerusalem as israel's capital despite several warnings of potential violence. >> and fire emergency in california. authorities say these fires are out of control. low humidity, high winds, a two television productions have been put on hold here and a whole lot of people are on the move right now. >> jump on the freeway there. >> welcome to early start this morning. i'm christine romans. >> it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. 1: we start in alabama where roy moore starts the home stretch of his campaign today, the final six days with a boost from steve bannon, the former white house chief strategist headlining a campaign event just a day after the president himself endorsed moore. moore has been accused of sexual assault and impropriety involving teenage girls. >> bannon slammed several quote establish republicans including mitch mcconnell and jeff flake who earlier tweeted out this. a

and bannon was involved in that. >> perhaps that help job bannon and president trump together. >> they had a similar personality, to it now, sometimes trump may be moves a little too quickly, but there is definitely a similar personali personality. >> chapter six is generation zero. can you explain that? what caused you to name that chapter generation zero? >> guest: generation zero was the name of a movie that bannon did. it talked about the 2000 and crash. the idea was that the future was being robbed. americans, given all the wealth that was lost in the debt that was being accumulated, the generation that exists now which is really the millennial's in younger people. when you look at the size of the deficit, we will have nothing left. >> where was he working in 2008 when the crash happened? >> guest: when the crash happened he was in california doing his own business. he left goldman sachs a long time ago. he went out to california was first out there to drum up business. then he formed his own for was doing business. but increasingly got into documentaries and into the his own cons

steve bannon. here is what he said. >> back in 2010 and 2012, the person you mentioned and his allies succeeded in nominating five candidates who all lost. we succeeded in 2014 and 2016 in defeating sure losers. >> shannon: let's welcome the political panel tonight. senior columnist from townhall.com, and radio host and fox news contributor, great to see both of you tonight. gentleman. >> great to be here. >> shannon: on one hand, mitch mcconnell is not a happy camper tonight, he has lost a seat, but on the other hand, he might be doing a victory dance because he wouldn't even say bannon's name and he wanted to say this guy keeps picking losers.. i'm doing the right thing. he's not. >> i think that sounds about right.t. one of the big winners is the quote unquote donald trump likes to call the swamp but establishment republicans. remember, at the beginning, they wanted luther strange, they lost that race, and then you saw establishment republicans, including richard shelby, saying, hey, listen, don

wasn't bannon.this has been an ongoing point of contention which mika and i actually saw one day early in the white house. when somebody mistakenly talked about steve bannon's strategy to union voters in front of donald trump. and donald trump snapped their head off and said it wasn't steve bannon. he came on at the very end. steve bannon is masterful at painting himself as the architect of donald trump's victim. and for some reason, the press always playing along. >> and every time he gets himself on the cover of time magazine or any other magazine and makes it look like he's the greatest political strategist in history ever. that's going to anow the president. it's also not true. listening to the steve bannon rally last night. number of things he said that seemed to just come from his gut, but which were strategically stupid things to say in the context of where he was was astonishing. the condy rice going off to the university of alabama. pointing out harvard and georgetown. supposed to be elitis

i guess if you're steve bannon, you do.e bannon was saying there isn't really true. the reason the establishment doesn't like roy moore isn't because of the reasons he said. it's because of the obvious problems with him. he says a lot of -- separate from the fact that he has accusations against him with the girls, he also is a pretty -- says a lot of very troubling/kooky things that make him not fit for the senate. >> considering how he handled himself as a judge and was removed -- >> exactly. he's been removed from office two times. >> molly, bannon has a unique position, that most don't get. he served the highest levels of the white house. when he left the white house he said he was going to war for trump against his opponents. talk to us about the bannon effect. how dangerous is it? >> i think credit goes the other way if roy moore ends up winning this race. it's roy moore who reinvigorated steve bannon's political brand, not the other way around. steve bannon jumped on this band wagon when he started gaining speed. roy

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and the bannon movement, and bannon recognized that.tism has been lingering for some time because of the self-professed links to the alt-right that bannon has made in the past, the anti-defamation league called breitbart and bannon the curator of the alt-right, and the alt-right obviously has some links to anti-semi-ites and oth extremist groups. this guy had no chance to win but he had every chance to become a huge embarrassment to bannon and an impediment in his political program. he was thrown overboard. >> do we have a sense, rebecca, what the state of the president trump-steve bannon relationship is at this time? >> well, it's complicated. let's put it that way. the president listens to steve bannon still. they talk semi-regularly or regularly depending on who you're talking to, who you're getting the information from. and of course the president did endorse roy moore in the alabama senate race, which is something that bannon wanted, and of course he was engaged in that race as well. but a source told us here at cnn that a few week

all aimed at steve bannon. know, when you set yourself up as the sort of messianic leader of a historic, revolutionary movement and you fall on your butt, there are a lot of people who have knives out for you and steve bannon is a big target today. >> but he clearly had an impact and an influence on the president's decision to support roy moore. >> i think that's true. and i think the president sort of -- you come into favor and you fall out of favor. i think he was very angry at mcconnell for talking him into being for luther strange against roy moore. now he may be angry with bannon for persuading him. we should say one small thing, i do think the president had some impact on this race in favor of moore, in the sense that you saw the late-breaking vote going for moore. >> right. >> i think in places close to where he campaigned, he probably had some influence. it's just that, much as in virginia where there was a heightened turnout in some of these republican areas, it was dwarfed by the turnout in these demo

bannon tells him to do because steve bannon's going to flatter him, he's going to do it and then in congress people like mitch mcconnell are going to act like they're against steve bannon because he's crazy and then they're going to get freaked out about losing primaries so they will end up being with steve bannon anyone. everybody in the picture except congress will be swept out of washington except steve bannon and you will have democratic coming in beginning of 2019 that's when something will finally get done for the american people. >> why do you say the president trump will follow whoever talks to last. >> that's how it works whoever is in his ear that's who he goes with. particularly if they said something nice. i did the dishes tonight he's probably watching if i give him credit for it maybe he will never hate tweet me i don't know. that's how he works. they create briefing documents with his name in it so he will pay attention to what's going on in north korea so they had complete control of the government then the ire year and all they have done is pass a tax bill that the

the reason so many people showed up was to hear steve bannon introduce it sand steve bannon went into attack mode. he attacked democrats, members of the news media but then he really went off on people he called establishment republicans. mitch mcconnell, arizona senator jeff flake but he reserved his ire for mitt romney. he had tweeted the other day, roy moore in the u.s. senate would be a stain on the gop and the nation. and listen to what bannon said. >> you ran for commander in chief. you had five sons. not one day of service in afghanistan and iraq. we have 7,000 dead and 52,000 casualties and where were the romneys during those wars? judge roy moore has more honor and integrity in a pinky finger than your entire family has in his whole dna. >> reporter: many people in the state have said this election should be left up to alabamaians. and that's true. it was only alabamaians that would be voting. he also got a tweet from doug jones, the democrat running against roy moore. he said we don't need an outside agitator like steve bannon carpet bagging in alabama. >> all right. six mor

bannon, this is a huge defeat for you. >> steve bannon gets tonight's last word which for him is the complete silence of utter humiliation. that's tonight's last word. "hardball" starts now. >> roy moore is no midnight cowboy. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington with major breaking news. the man who rode to the polls on horseback ends tonight dismounted and defeated. the next senator from the state of alabama will be a democrat. according to nbc news, doug jones is the apparent winner in the state. in the end it seems judge roy moore proved to be a step too far even for alabama. the victory means a major shift in one of the reddest of the red states. the implications felt here in washington here as well. president trump endorsed moore even as most republicans deemed him toxic. the president tweeted congratulations to doug jones on a hard fought victory. the write in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. the people of alabama are great and the republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. it never ends.

if moore were to win how important this would be for bannon. i think bannon and trump right now are virtually are indistinguishable. i think it's the same thing. i think trump is -- donald trump, president trump is playing out of the bannon playbook, and if roy moore wins, i think steve bannon is going to have a lot to say about nevada and arizona. and i think the president is going to listen to him much more than he would ever listen to mitch mcconnell. >> i think the president will have a lot toc say to mitch mcconnell. he's going to feel em bold understaboldened to push back. >> the fact is there's a huge cultural divide in this country and there are a lot in alabama who feel estranged from the establishment from the the elites. what moore's message was, much like trump's, they disdain me because i'm like you, i'm your champion, i'm going to fight for you. and the more he got pounded on the evening news and on cable television and in the newspapers, it strengthened him. ev >> i grew up in the south and fairly religious, to me as i would watc