so i do think bannon is right. i don't agree that he we're gonna see a hundred seat turn over, you know, but i do believe that we're on the verge of a groundswell, and i just tweeted out. oh walls other that's my twitter walls other. it's a play on my movie other walls to fall walls others. so look me up on on at wall's other and i tweeted an article this afternoon about this groundswell, and it's not just here folks. it's going on across the world people are rising and look what happened in hungry or bond one with 90 percent. i mean, these are saddam hussein level numbers right where the ballot says saddam hussein kill me in torture my family, you know, these are the 90% like santa who's saying numbers and and but this is occurring everywhere across the world. the people are i know it's a catch phrase, but they are rising up and isn't this fabulous the international rise of all of these people is turning marks on its head because they are rising up for free markets and freedom against the communist overseers. it's

ask steve bannon. is steve bannon here? i do not see steve bannon? i did not see steve bannon? steve bannon. [laughter] frederick douglass isn't here, and that is because he is dead. someone please tell the president. [applause] mike pence wanted to be here tonight, but his wife would not let him because one of you ladies is ovulating, so good job . without you we could've hung out with mike pence. [laughter] now yvonne can trump is not -- ivanka trump is not here either. if she was, i know the question we are all thinking, why, why do you support this man? because i get it, we all love our parents, but we would not endorse him for president. it's like, hey, it is fun. should your dad be president of the united states? i would be like, my dad would -- [laughter] the guy who tries to return his underwear to costco? [laughter] no. [laughter] jeff sessions is going to be here tonight, but he was busy doing a pre-civil war reenactment. [laughter] on his rsvp he wrote, no, just know, which is his second favorite n-word. even hillary clinton couldn't be here tonight. somebody told he

i was at trump tower to meet with bannon about this book. and, trump had just left maybe 30 minutes before. the next time, was in 2017 it just before bannon retired, and i said, is the boss here today? he goes, no, he just had it off for new jersey. so, i missed him twice, and i missed shaking hands with ronald reagan with his distance. i was doing an event for ronald reagan at the western white house, but it was over the hill. have any we've been to the ranch? who's been to the ranch? okay. small, really, really, the whole house is about the size of this room. it's a really small house. you can't hold public events there because they just don't have the facilities for it. so, they were holding an event at another guys ranch over the hill. it's called in concert at the white house. it would have beverley sills of the metropolitan opera. she was the hostess. she would host, once a month, a different musical or entertainment act, and he would have the beach boys, and you have the debris rubric quartet. this, time it was merle haggard and the o

they kind of got the worst of both world, bannon and meadows in that they're now -- in bannon's caseuch more easily by cooperating. any other senior trump administration officials or allies who had been on the fence about playing ball with the committee, now there's no question that cooperation by far is the path of least resistance. >> we're airing footage of donald trump jr. and this is a random thought but the 20-pound lighter twin of jd vance. i want to ask you about the campaign politically being waged about the 1/6 committee by the likes of jd vance. i mean, it feels like it's narrative destroying for kimberly guilfoyle, donald trump jr., ivanka trump and jared kushner to go before the committee and not sensibly tell the truth, betsy. i wonder how much of this group of witnesses that includes the family is about the pence leg of the investigation and if you go back to congressman jamie raskin's public comments last week that some of the most chilling words were i will not get in the car referring to mike pence after the evacuation which was captured on film of the against famil

folks like steve bannon are calling this race maga versus ultra-maga. "politico" reports the gop is launches an operation to stop barnette, worried she can't win in the general election. trump says she would lose to the democrat. folks like sean hannity are freaking out. >> and now we are uncovering many troubling comments and tweets that would very likely cause her to lose badly in a general election. this is a very important state. there are so many questions she has never answered and many tweets that likely render her unelectable in pennsylvania. >> the gop is reaping what it sowed as more and more extremist candidates not only run but win races, like j.r.majewski who supported qanon, in d.c. on january 6th. he won a gop house primary in ohio. mitch mcconnell warned republicans they could hurt themselves this year with extreme candidates. we may be seeing that happen right now. joining me now tim miller, msnbc political analyst and writer for "the bull wash." his new book "why we did it" a travel log to the republican road to hell comes out soon. ti

. >> we have all of the options that would be available to us for someone like steve bannon, or mark meadows, and then additional options because there are members of congress. >> of course, bannon and meadows were held in contempt, bannon now facing criminal charges for stonewalling the investigation. as the committee waits to hear from the gop house members. politico issued this report, another subpoena has gone out to a former aide to mark meadows. cassidy hutchinson, worked with meadows during trump's final days in the white house. she has already had two conversations with the committee. and the panel now wants a third. >> there is no question that hutchinson from her position dealing with legislative affairs has information, and visibility regarding a relationship between the white house, and capitol hill, that are a key focus for the select committee investigators in these final weeks. >> the 1-6 committee has also been looking to efforts to pressure mike pence to overturn the 2020 election. today, we learned the former vice president will be campaigning with governor brian ke

of course, the meadows case is different than bannon. bannon completely stiffed the committee.n. all those things are complicating it. still, perhaps the justice department does come in for a little more justifiable criticism that they haven't moved fast on this one. >> the counterargument is this is about things meadows was doing outside of the presidency. the election still and the pressure on georgia. >> that don't relate to executive privilege. they weren't things that the president could do. that's right. they weren't official business. that makes it different. that's another layer of complexity here. >> phil, what are we learning about whether or not they would call the former president to testify about his role? >> they have not done that yet. it's unclear if they will. the hearings, of course, are coming up in june. the committee is hard at work trying to put together sort of a blockbuster presentation that they hope can sway public opinion. it all centers around trump. my colleagues are reporting that congresswoman liz cheney, the republican from wyoming, has been the

i'm not talking about the steve bannons or mark meadows.king about the people they rely on, the aides, the assistants, the people who got directives. we all know that people like mark meadows and steve bannon and anyone in the upper echelon rely on minions to get things done. that's who they trust. that's who's been talking to the committee. this committee has been able to construct a minute by minute accounting because they got it from those people. they don't neat steve bannon. they don't need mark meadows per se. at this time most effective way to convey to the american people what happened is chronologically and take them minute by minute. use footage, emails, testimony. use all the tools you have at your disposal to tell that story. >> so, i'm also thinking, and we talk about in all the time. i see your tweets, everybody else tweeting about this. there's a terrible moment with the republicans and our immediate reaction is like, that should be an ad. that's the only one you're going to need. should they have a rapid response team right

steve bannon _ eight months. that's an interesting point. steve bannon is _ eight months.d. is that worry you? no, they will not get _ said. is that worry you? no, they will not get back into _ said. is that worry you? no, they will not get back into power. - said. is that worry you? no, they will not get back into power. i. will not get back into power. i honoured my oath to the constitution and i serve my country and i stand by that more today than i ever did. thank you for answering our questions. another 36 monkeypox cases have been detected in the uk, taking the total here to 56. all the new infections are in england. another 85 cases have been identified in eight eu countries. dr david heymann, who chairs an expert group at the who, described the outbreak in europe as "a random event" and of low risk to the wider public. it's thought the virus that might have been spread by sexual transmission among gay and bisexual men, at two raves in spain and belgium. thank you forjoining us. 57 cases here in the uk, given that there is an incubation period of two weeks for monke

to date they only proceeded with the subpoena enforcement with steve bannon.try a civil enforcement proceeding in the courts, and that also takes time. they set a strict timeline to get the hearings done by the end of june. and the possibility that you raise, they keep it within the legislative branch and they try to find something they can take away from the members or a sanction that could convince them to testify, and will that really persuade these members to testify? i think there's a big question mark there. >> i have one idea that could persuade them to testify, carol? that would be this. do they want their subpoenas complied with if they are in the majority? >> that comes to the unprecedented nature of this. you know, chuck, i think that when you are looking at this picture as a -- as is the committee going to, quote, win, by getting the subpoenas complied with, or are the representatives going to win by playing out the clock, i think that's assuming that the members of the committee really think they will comply with the subpoena. i know statements ha

steve bannon was easy, mark meadows a little bit more complicated.ink that rudy giuliani is in his own category. he is in the rear space as trump's lawyer for a long time, in a informal role. he was not subpoenaed. he said at one point. it is really difficult to figure out how quickly that could go forward with a criminal referral coming out of this, how quickly the doj could move forward the prosecution. >> right, he was an attorney but not on retainer, he was being paid by someone else water president trump, very out situation. switching gears a little bit, ryan. the committee also wants to speak with the number of republican, what do they want to do this? >> yeah, there are numbers are very key tillis. they were involved in some of these talks, there is a lot of lengths and one degrees of separation between some of these more extremist groups that actually did engage in violence and some of these members of congress. they want to get a hold on how involved a were and how much of wednesday had and some of the potential for violence that day. there

[ laughter ] after he pulled out, rudy went on steve bannon's podcast to explain his decision and didhimself any favors. >> are you saying your concern is they would doctor the tape and hold it back [ laughter ] >> you want -- >> come on would they - >> this is not your first rodeo? it's not your first rodeo? >> you got a bunch of people on that committee that tried to frame a sitting president of the united states. and i'm gonna trust them do i look like a fool? >> seth: do you look like a fool [ laughter ] well - ♪ ♪ [ laughter ] ♪ we've used that last photo so often, i've started keeping one on my wallet now for emergencies. there they go. [ laughter ] it's fun when i say, "you want to see a picture of my son?" [ laughter ] "aah!" anyway, the important point is, now that rudy is refusing to testify, the committee is threatening to hold him in contempt >> giuliani's decision to stonewall the committee now puts him on the very same path as other trump allies, like mark meadows, dan scavino, and steve bannon the panel today dangling the prospect of holding giuliani in contempt, saying

they've just blew us off the same way that steve bannon did. so, we were hoping that they will move quickly on it. >> congressman jamie raskin, thank you so much are making some time for us this evening. tonight, will marjorie taylor greene be on the ballot for her own reelection, what the judge ruled in the closely watched lawsuit that was trying to prove the congresswoman's comments about january the 6th actually disqualified her from running for office. that decision and what it means for the other cases that are like it coming up next. what it mean for the other cases that are like it coming up next like it coming up next ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day a

bad news for steve bannon and peter navarro's legal claims. they look more isolated with trump jr. facing this committee and thus facing it as a valid investigative process. and that's not all. it follows ivanka trump and jared kushner who also decided to testify voluntarily given they both worked in the white house for four years. ivanka trump's testimony reportedly helping the committee fill in a lot of gaps according to some reporting. nick, more than one legal story in the news. i'm speaking to you in front of the supreme court because of that leaked opinion. and we have more coverage on later tonight. but of course it's also the institution that ruled overwhelmingly against related secrecy claims by the former president, by the idea these trump allies could just avoid or defy this committee outright. what's your reaction to don jr. joining other family member here? >> my reaction is this. i mean, they are cooperating supposedly, but i think really cooperating. are they telling the truth about what happened that day and that afternoon where we've got a 7-hour gap of phone recor

this is getting tougher on bannon and navarro. if the calls from the doj to do more were coming as it was already doing more william edo know a federal grand jury was in place and subpoenaed some people in trump's orbit. "the washington post" reported on that in march. why is this specific news coming out now? sometimes you get a scoop, a new development, you wonder, why are we hearing this? what are the sources? with the grand jury, you may remember from the mueller probe, the sources are confidential because the process is supposed to be. i can tell you exactly why this is happening tonight. it's because of navarro who's filed his own new separate civil lawsuit today tackling some of these issues and in it, he discloses this new subpoena while arguing he believes he should have executive privilege. he also likens cooperation with the government to betrayal. what about the majority of trump witnesses who did testify, including trump's children? he actually says that was cowardly of them. now, let me tell you, navarro has right to

people like dance could be no, peter navarro, mark meadows, steve bannon. the justice department has been slow to act on the majority of those. i believe it is only see fan in the justice department has formally charged with criminal charges. so it begs the question, how quickly would the eternal attorney general be willing to intervene in potential criminal charges for sitting lawmakers. so the committee is really faced with a difficult decision here. not many options as we move forward with this, symone. it sounds like it, ali. i know there's a difference between what lawmakers can do and what they are willing to do. so i know that you will be watching that. before you go, ali, i am wondering what happens next? we have the subpoenas, but aren't there hearings coming up very soon? >> yeah, and the first of those, that series of hearings is expected to begin on tonight. so there are a lot of boxes left to check for the committee before this weekend. we know right now, there are several. i believe three different dates that all five of these lawmakers have.

bannon was visibly shaken by the situation repeating instances of one of the victims that stopped at the store to buy a birthday cake for his 3-year-old son and would never return home. >>> earlier today the president and first lady visited the scene of the shooting . the present in his speech told families he knew a bit of what they were going through. the president lost three children and his first wife. he's no stranger to that kind of anguish. it's not the first mass shooting to occur during his presidency. they were two more since the shooting in buffalo. with lauren marquez at the church in southern california. >>> the suspect in the church shooting is expected to make his first court appearance today. he faces one murder charge, five counts of attempted murder and four counts of of unlawful possession of explosives. he's being held on a million- dollar bone. notes of the car show hatred towards taiwanese people. >>> elementary school children one step closer to a covid booster. >> the fda authorized a third shot. take a look at the vaccination rates for 5 to 11-year-old age gr

and work to dismantle the administrative state a cost that steve bannon has embraced with relish steve brannon's literally been open in canada about the fact that his goal is to dismantle the administrative state. so in many ways one of the things that the the revanchist wright has done is say the government which again granted rights to all is the enemy itself hauling into question legitimacy of all their decisions. so that's number one and that's been a big factor. i think number two has been the normalization of extremism now again, the john birch society the kkk, i mean these anti these sort of call them pro white. um, these pro white militia types of always been out there, but they gain even greater legitimacy after the return of veterans from vietnam the vietnam war and then the first gulf war as some, you know writers like katherine balloon from chicago have written about where you had this veteran class who came back and didn't get all of the you know, i think society did not embrace them. it didn't give them all the respect that they deserved. so you have this this kind of ang

this will be this will be a complete import bannon. all russian was seaborne and pipeline crude and refined. we will make sure that we phase out russian oil in an orderly fashion. so in a way that allows us and our partners to secure alternative supply routes. and at the same time, be very careful that we minimize the impact on the global market. and this is why we will phase outs, russian supply of crude oil within 6 months. and we find product by the end of the year. and we'll have more on the new a u sanctions in our next bulletins and out to the fighting on the ground in ukraine. russian air strikes have hitler, viv, cutting power and water supply. 2 parts of the western ukrainian city close to the polish board up russian forces also struck transportations in the center and west of the country. according to a railway official, plumes of smoke could be seen rising above levine. the cities may i said, the strike hit 2 power substations. the veil has been sped, the worst of the fighting so far with only a handful of strikes, hitting c

this will be this will be a complete import. bannon. all ration will seaborne and pipeline crude and refined . but in order for this to happen, it will need the support of all e u member states, and some a strongly resistant to all act embargoes by sally back. give you. russell anxious package would destroy the security of hungry energy supply. while you're like this package in this form cannot responsibly be supported on one at ne, journeyed the sanctions proposed in strasburg will also target several large russian banks and other financial institutions. the notable absentee from the list is russian natural gas. in a sense, it's the elephant to the european living room. too big to be ignored, but also too big, unilaterally to be done away with, without seriously damaging economies across this continent. bottom line, as you will probably not be able to replace rocky gas any time soon. we're talking about a $150000000.00 billing cubic meters of gas that russia says west that's coming down at the moment. but we're still gonna face a short

the spokesperson was a combination of rudy giuliani and steve bannon, who are not credible individuals in the topper of that was the wall street journal had reviewed the same substance and declined it. people in the states think that the wall street journal is reliable. they said, we cannot posted. -- post it. fox news said they cannot publish this. it doesn't meet our editorial standards. same outlet that has no trouble lying past on the story. it ended up at the post. the way you treat gossett. that is where it ran. the issue there is they did not provide any talk -- editorial guidance or standards. the post is not credible enough to stand on its own authority and it violated its story. it is not like it is suppressed. no one stopping to engage in discussion. the only thing twitter did in don't write sees it as a conspiracy, the one story as it existed, we will not allow it to be attributed because it violates our leaks center. there were claims in there, conveniently, that had been dropped. it was not like the story itself. it is not like the original story did not hold all the way

are independent and no matter what the rules are thinking if you are outside the house, like steve bannonwhy did they not do it earlier if they are so important to the investigation? >> they wanted to wait until they had more information and to understand more of what is going on. it becomes incumbent to go after these people to see what they know and what they can say. leader mccarthy was very much involved and we know he talked to the president in the middle of the insurrection. we know that he says the president has some responsibility. the committee wants to get it from him. same with brooks who participated and jim jordan. these people are important and the committee believes they need to get it from their lips, so to speak. >> what do you see happening next? how does this in unfold? >> they have conducted about 1000 interviews and they start at the bottom and they talk to people who are tangentially related. you build a case which is what you do with a major case and then with the guy at the top, they wrap this up with eight televised sessions next month and then we will see that if

that it was something he had passed on, i have some reporting that it was a steve bannon plan.ior is a limited witness. there are others like kushner and ivanka trump who worked in the white house at that time. >> we have remarkable discussion talking about invoking the 25th amendment. >> i think what have been cited by the democrats so far are the 25th amendment which are not exactly an elegant solution here. >> that takes too long here. >> yeah, correct. if the president were to submit a letter overruling the cabinet and vice press, two-thirds. impeachment has been discussed and i think they want him to redesign which i don't see happening either. >> when talking about the 25th amendment. his response isn't that he wants to evoke it but that it takes too long. what is your reaction to that? >> i think he was looking and we knew some of this at the time. we were reporting whether he should call on president trump to resign and on the options. i'm not sure he was endorsing that but saying, yes, this was a terrible thing and this doesn't apply here. he was entertaining all of hi

it's no wonder steve bannon called viktor orban, trump before trump.nd as my therapist, will tell you, i've been to a ton of trump rallies. so i brought along a trusty translator to see just how similar an orban rally is to a maga rally. first up, the merch table. do you have any orban pictures specifically with him shirtless, writing a velociraptor? tyrannosaurus rex? - just the flags that basically hungarian reference. - that have any profanity on it whatsoever. - no, it's just a-- - just a straight flag? - just a straightforward flag. - good luck with the sales today. you don't need to say that one. - merch, check. lock her up. i thought i heard lock her up. okay, maybe some things are a little lost in translation, but still, chants, check. are there going to be any let's go, brandon chants here? do you know, let's go, brandon? i see signs. do you know let's go, brandon? okay, so people are chanting. it was at a nascar. do you know, nascar? - nascar. - nascar, it's like formula one. it's in a circle, it's more boring. they might shout different slog

now he has taken a different route than other people close to the president like steve bannon. they are face ing a contempt of congress charge. what does the committee do with the information giuliani presented to them? they have a series of high-stakes public hearings that will take place in the month of june. and we'll have to see if what giuliani toad ld them this week will be part of that report. >>> and we're learning that ginny thomas urged lawmakers to overturn biden's win. she asked two states to unilaterally choose the electors. critics have questioned justice clarence thomas' involvement earlier this year. thomas was the only justice to publicly dissent from the decision. >>> officials in pennsylvania are still counting ballots in the state's republican senate primary, and trump-endorsed tv personality dr. oz is still holding a slim edge over david mccormick. the race is likely headed to an automatic recount. whoever wins the republican primary will face democrat john fetterman this fall in the general election. >>> it's a heartbreaking time in buffalo, new york after

bannon does very well.ing of something president obama did well, a visit from charleston, south carolina where man murdered nine churchgoers. it goes down in the annals of not just great presidential speeches but speeches entirely. back in modern-day history, the white house with the first black white house press secretary taking the podium. also the first openly gay press secretary and the first immigrant press secretary in american history as well. moments ago the white house said the leaders of sweden and finland had been invited to the white try into nato. finland parliament just voted in favor with the request tomorrow. a big day politically there are primary elections in idaho, oregon, kentucky, north carolina and pennsylvania. a governors race and race for the senate as well. this is the one where dr. oz is and it. eyes has the endorsement of trump for the republican nominee running for senate. he has gotten real competition from fellow republican kathy burnett. springing up out of nowhere in the las

and apparently steve bannon wasn't far from him at the time. it's unfortunate, but it's not surprising. >> also, at the same time, don, it's unfortunate she said that, that it's the worst state she's lived in. there are worse things to go after stacey abrams on, her issues of georgia. those should be the focus of any spot the way per do you was goi going at it earlier. this is the best state. that's why i'm running for governor. this was not the way to do t. alice, can i talk to you about this other key pras we're watching. that's the alabama-and the president asked him to be part of the 2022 election. is this a race a referendum on the big lie? >> it appears that brooks is really making up some ground. what this boils down to, again, not focusing on the past, focusing on the future and in this case on the issues important to the people of alabama. mel brooks was a dead man walking not too long ago, but really worked in terms of meeting with the people, grassroots campaign getting good seizure and the moving forward of republicans is in novembe

we have one indictment by the department of justice against steve bannon and three others pending. it's been a number of months. we're already at may 12th. i think the leikelihood of that being done is low. they're trying to present is fullest picture they can to the american people. >> do do you think it will be more subpoenas? >> i actually think it will be. a member of the committee said she would not rule that out. i know from multiple sources they are still collecting evidence. i will tell you a lot of people today said they were not surprised by these subpoenas. i've been talking to members of t the committee now. i was not surprised i did not know or think they would necessarily go here because of the political ramifications. i think between now and when the hearing start, we'll see more of this. >> all right. thank you. appreciate it. make sure you check out dana's interview with nancy pelosi. that's sunday morning at 9:00. >>> supreme court justice meeting today behind closed doors for the first time of the bombshell leak of the draft opinion that would over turn roe v wad

and they're of course excluding people like steve bannon and mark meadows, and ska veno and navarro. >> i thought it was interesting what mo brooks talked about, that the president, former president of the united states, has contacted him several times to, i don't know, do what, overturn the election and rescind the ratification? i don't know what he is asking mo brooks to do. i'm in the quite sure what mo brooks is capable of doing. but mo brooks has asserted that they want to hold, or there was scheming h involved to try to hd a special election for the presidency. have you uncovered whatever that plot is? >> well, mo brooks makes an attempt to a point, ali, because this is really a continuing effort to overthrow our system of government. donald trump has never conceded defeat to joe biden. and his c supporters, like pro brooks are out there saying that donald trump is the rightful winner, andna we're very curiou about what mo brooks is referring to when heur talks abt continuing efforts to get congress to rescindut the election. there of course is no provision inth the u.s. consti

steve bannon, racist. sebastian gorka, racist. you know who is most racist of all?ublicans who criticized ralph northam for wearing black face and a kkk outfit. you are racist if you notice racism as long as a racist is a democrat. [laughs] it's so awesome. give that girl a big job. you may be rolling your eyes because you have heard all of this a million times with ice cream and shakespeare racist, but think about it for a second, this is the person, the biden administration hired to tell the rest of us what joe biden really means when he says for example he is going to kill vladimir putin. how long until this person calls him a racist? she probably artie has. how was i going to turn out in the middle of a war? we don't have to wait long to find out. here's an incredibly racist thing according to america's new press secretary. voter identification laws, you will find those laws in every country on the planet including africa, but that does not make them any less racist. >> in order to get these voter suppression laws besides gutting the voting rights act, you also

giuliani has taken a different route than other souts of the former president, including steve bannons who have defied the committee's request to appear. they're facing a criminal contempt charge. what does the committee do with the information giuliani provided to them? they have a series of high-stakes public hearings that will take place in the month of june. we'll have to see if what giuliani told them this week will be any part of that report. ryan nobles, cnn, washington. >>> coming up, actress ellen bar kin taking the stand in johnny depp's defamation case against amber heard. >> he's just a jealous man, controlling. where are you going? who are you going with? what did you do last night? yeah, you'llll get used to it. this mom's depositing money with tools on-handnd. cha ching. and this mom, , well, she's setting an appointment here, so her son can get set up there and start his own financial journey. that's because these moms all have chase. smart bankers. convenient tools. one bank with the power of both. chase. make more of what's yours. what do you think healthier looks li

now, we've seen that with steve bannon. steve bannon was not cooperative with the committee. the justice department decided to prosecute him. same thing happened with mark meadows dove the doj has not prosecuted him so if you don't hold them in contempt on the house floor, what is your remedy here? members of congress, if they decide not to cooperate with the committee in this instance which is pretty rare, that's rather extraordinary and they don't do this very often. i don't want to say that this is unprecedented necessarily, but it is exceptional, because you have that internal process, but here's the bottom line. this is what this is all about. the one-six committee, neil, is going to begin its hearings in early june, around june 9 and so what they need to do between now and early june is start to curate a narrative, what did these members know? how involved were these members? of course moe brooks was speaking down at the ellipse telling people to go to the united states capitol and it was time to take names and kick some blank. that was the line that he used speaking at

now puts him on the very same path as other trump allies like mark meadows, dan scavino and steve bannonangling holding giuliani in contempt. mr. giuliani is an important witness to the conspiracy to overthrow the government and he remains under subpoena. if he refuses to comply the committee will enforce all options. the committee faces two challenges, holding giuliani accountable if he continues to refuse to testify and continuing their probe in which giuliani is a central figure. his fingerprints are on every single aspect of the failed trump coup plot from the dozens of court cases challenging the election results, every single one of them except one failed, to the scheme to set up those fake slates of trump electors and to push pence to stop the electoral college count from being certified to the various plans to get government agencies, national security agencies at that to seize voting machines, to peddling the big lie that millions upon millions of americans still to this day believes. the same big lie that encited the attack on the capitol. it is facing off with the ex-president

and the night before the invasion, steve bannon, who is a big orban booster, on his podcast he was sayingwas rooting for putin too because he ain't woke. they like orban because he's authoritarian, autocratic, and he opposes equal rights for lbgtq community. he banned same-sex marriages. he is restricting muslim immigration. in the culture wars, that's what he is doing there. it's not about policy. it's about here is an ally and a soul mate. he is their soul mate not just running but winning a lot of the culture wars they want to have here in the united states. >> right. and i know that -- you use the word winning loosely. win anything a society where one person controls the rules and the outcome, which is what he is doing or putin is doing, is attractive to people who don't believe in fair rules to begin with. but it's certainly not a way to self-govern. the tucker/orban thing is interesting. people might have missed it because it seemed initially random. there are plenty of places you can go abroad just talking to foreign leaders. here's a little bit of their exchange. >> so in 2015, hu

department of justice asking them to indict mark meadows, former chief of staff, to indict steve bannonhey've done, they have not moved on mark meadows. they've gone to great pains to not just share information back and forth without any cooperation or coordination or without a specific request. and the fact they made a specific request and the committee turned them down, shows they're not coordinated in any way, shape or form. >> yeah, this is potentially a significant development we are watching. ryan nobles on capitol hill. thank you very, very much. >>> up next, john king is getting ready to preview a very busy an important night of primary races here in the united states. stay with us. we'll update you when we come back. good thing adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of bacteria that d detergents can't. clean is g good, sanitized is better. ♪ at adp, we use data-driven insights to design solutions to help you manage payroll, benefits, and hr today, so you can have more success tomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another, yeah, yeah ♪ we need to reduce plastic waste in the environ

>> yeah, but i think steve bannon was charged criminally. on ultimately he will go to trial. he will be convicted. but it's a slow process, it's not the best process. what you really want is a testimony, i think there are better ways to get it. and mark meadows, i don't think he had skated by any means whatsoever. one reason he hasn't been charged with defying the subpoena, is because they have bigger plans for him. >> figure plans? i will be here for that! barbara mcquade, you always make a smarter. every time you are here. former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, and professor of the university of michigan school of law. thank you. when we come back, the response to the january 6th attack, and the investigation into it that has the guided our country like so many other things! even the shootings that left 19 children and two teachers dead in texas, again, dividing our nation. when we come back, historian ruth benji ask, talks about the divide in america and divisions across the world! he world the deadly shooting in uvalde texas is calling action once agai

giuliani has taken different routes than other associates of the former president including steve bannonadows who have both defied the fitty's request to appear before them. they're now facing a criminal contempt of congress charge. so the question is what does the committee do with this information giuliani provided to them? of course they do a series of high stakes public hearings that will take place in the month of june, and we'll have to see if giuliani told them this week will be a part of that report. ryan nobles, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to ryan nobles for that. and one of the most restrictive abortion bills in the country awaits the oklahoma governor's signature. and if he signs it, that law would allow private citizens to sue providers who knowingly offer women an abortion. we'll have that full story next. stay with us. get more with neutrogena® retinol pro plus. a powerful .5% retinolol that's also gentle on skin. for wrinkle results in one week. neutrogena®. for people with skin. this is roundup for lawns. this stuff works. this stuff kills weeds down to the root withou