ammano -- amato is the last person. >> my name is barbara. i feel i am a representative of a dog owner with one dog to obeys the rules and maintains the park. i agree with chris that it is so small that we really should limit to five dogs per dog walker. i was one of the original writters of the park and rec dog parks rules. it was very helpful to us, but we never envisioned people coming in with six or seven dogs. it is not something we were conscious of, so we ask you a minute to the small dog parks that the limit is odd, and also, i respectfully ask that you include in the legislation four. as requirements for the dog walkers. one is that they do have their permit visibly so that you can read it from 20 feet away or 10 feet away at least, and so that the permit is on their vehicles so we can see that they are registered and that every dog that is what has a city license. it should be a requirement, and then the dog walkers, because they are working, they should not be on their cell phones, socializing. they should be watching the dogs and

cathy, demetrius, chris, and barbara ammano. >> hi, i am cabin from the recreation center.we walk dogs in san francisco. thank you again for hearing all of oz. i am still in favor of eight dogs for the dog walking. we have talked about the economics last time. i am here to ask a few more questions about the fees regarding this licensing and was wondering what it meant for a business to be licensed as opposed to a walker who would be an employee. supervisor wiener: i will answer that question. every business has to have a business license. if you are a hair salon, you have to limit business license, but you also have to have certain licensing to do that, so basically currently, without this legislation, anyone conducting a dog walking business is required to have a business license, period, and this would require a permit specifically for dog walking. >> so for myself or for the judgment misspoke earlier, who has seven employees, would each employee have to file to get a dog walking license? supervisor wiener: everyone would have to have a permit, but only the business itsel