blaine coleman is a bds activist and campaigner who joins us. blain komen, welcome to economic divide. um, in the occupied territories, in particular obviously i'm talking about the west bank here, uh, there's a lot of israel control that it exerts um over the palestinian economic activity, things like imports, workforce participation, for example, or the availability of palestinian products on the market. we're trying to get an idea from you if we can, the type of control. and how much of it is exercised on the palestinians, which makes life very hard for them? well, it's extremely extraordinarily severe and cruel this control that israel exercises over the west bank. for example, israel has split the west bank into hundreds of gettos, sealed off from each other by hundreds of military checkpoints and road blocks supplemented by armed and dangerous. roaming the main roads and so in the best of times before this horrible assault on gaza life was like that in the west bank now now you've got these israeli settlers driving palestinians physically

the anti-racist non-violent bds movement, presents tens of millions worldwide. eds has called for ending international state, corporate and institutional complicity in israel's regime of oppression so that the palestinians can enjoy un stipulated rights. the movement can now play a more active role in putting pressure on israel. furthermore, calls are growing to impose sanctions on israel. iran's prime minister hossain amir abdullahyan has called on the organization of islamic cooperation, oic member states, to impose political and economic sanctions and an embargo on israel. the constant policy of userping the palestinian lands, continuation of settlement construction, destruction of farm land and residential houses, torturing women, children and men and controlling the water resources and electricity. they are nothing but crimes against humanity. islamic countries must coordinate efforts to immediately put an end to the war crimes of the israeli regime committed against civilians, especially women and children. hello and welcome to the quick take section. i'm

welcome so uh it seems like bds is indeed rebooted and it looks like. when you look at the record of the growth and influence and strength of the international bds movement, boycot, divestment and sc it doesn't grow in a sort of regular curve, it grows by leaps, the massacre of the turkish um solidarity people on the mavi marmora a 2008, nine massaker operation castled 2014, each of these um atrocious israeli crimes, the bds movement grows by a big leap, nothing is going to be bigger than this one, because it's important to know and for you viewers to understand that israel in terms of western public opinion, i don't mean what governments say, is a polecat state and has always been a polecat state since since this since since 2000, every measure of public opinion shows that israel is in a deep crisis because it's widely despised and reviled in terms of public opinion and support for israel by the way, in terms of what european public opinion is vanishingly small. and this is so extreme, there such an extreme dissonance between public opinion and our rul

yousuffte, what role can bds movement play at this critical juncture? the the boy, the bds plays a very critical role in that, it's a broad umbrella group, and it's covers several terrains, sports, academics, culture, arts, economics and and and a whole range of mechanisms whereby people become isolated, ordinary israelis become isolated, if there is something like an ordinary israeli, because they subjected to propaganda, they live in a bubble, and they often must be seen or must be shown the mirror that what they doing is wrong and an isolation like this, a boycot like this does send the message to ordinary from civil society outside of israel, these send a strong message that what you're doing is wrong and it's not acceptable, it's untenable and we will stop it, so that is one way in in which this can be done, but it is one instrument, the political boycot is also important, but the biggest one is the um... breaking off of diplomatic and relationship with - apartted israel, so we here in south africa, we are embarked a road, we want to we want to exp

there is no doubt. about the success of bds and the boycott. it is so successful that in germany, in france, in europe, in the uk, they must introduce legislation to quell the rising popularity and the increasing demands from amongst the population that israel needs to be sanctioned with boycot, divestment and sanctions. the people have. have tried to negotiate with the israeli regime and even attempted peaceful means to resolve the conflict with the regime. however, the zionist regime only understands the language of violence. during a west asia tour in 1999, mandela visited the palestinian territories. while in gaza, he said he felt at home amongst compatriots. he also said that if peace efforts fail, armed resistance is the only way to attain freedom. choose peace. rather than confrontation, except in cases where we cannot get, where we cannot proceed, when where we cannot move forward, then if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence. south africa's apart regime eventually reached a point where it could not maintain racial seg

you know they can they can obviously do that and uh you know this has the air and the uh feel of the bds movements uh in a sense but a much larger scale that requires obviously the um realization and then the action uh of uh countries regionally in terms of the oil perhaps and then internationally in terms of not buying goods made in israel do you think that the will... is there? it it is not there unfortunately, and the thing is that you, we cannot just uh leave all of the responsibility and shoulder the responsibility on people coming out in london, it is the arab countries uh, especially those with gas and oil, that should be shouldering the main responsibility, not only as arabs, but also as muslims, they needs to be solidarity, there needs to be respect for other human beings, the you know, there was a time when these countries were one arab country and they do have a common tongue and a common history and a common religion and a common culture, but where is the respect for that? egypt could close and shut the swez canal right now and stop this war. saudi arabia could shut down oil

the bds movement encourages. the continued pressure on those who support israel's genocidal war against palestinians in gaza. it's time to boycot starbucks, disney plus, coca-cola, mcdonald's, walmart and instacar and many other brands. i am deleting all the apps, i am no longer supporting those brands ever again, because they think that what they're doing to palestinians is okay, and it's not. hello and welcome to the quick take section. i'm mattiapolisan. when it comes to boycotting israel, it doesn't only include products. there are different boycots from trade to the military, diplomatic ones. all have come into effect in this genocidal war that israel is waging against the gaza strip. one of the starting points can be action from muslim. countries, especially regional ones, and that would involve boycotting trade with israel. the following shows the respective countries and the amount of trade that they are doing with israel. obviously, a stop to this would definitely hurt israel, especially at this juncture. the other boycott option would be in the arms and military sector, that i

regime they can they can obviously do that and uh you know this has the air and the uh feel of the bds movements. uh in a sense but a much larger scale that requires obviously the um realization and then the action uh of uh countries regionally in terms of the oil perhaps and then internationally in terms of not buying goods made in israel, do you think that the will is there? it it is not there unfortunately and the thing is that you know we cannot just uh leave all of the responsibility uh and shoulder the responsibility on people coming out in london, it is the arab country uh, especially those with gas and oil, that should be shouldering the main responsibility, not only as arabs, but also as muslims, there needs to be solidarity, there needs to be respect for other human beings, the you know, there was a time when these arab countries were one arab country, and they do have a common tongue and a common history and a common religion and a common culture, but where is the respect for that? egypt could close and shut the swez canal right now and stop this war, saudi arabia could shut

the ongoings from her part and we also have uh roshan dadu who's a coordinator of the south african bdsen any changes in terms of the military aspect of things or even on the political side? well, generally speaking, it seems that hazballah is keeping to the rules of engagement in general, there are boundaries that they have put forth, of course, and with these speech of hazball secretary general, we see that once he mentioned the issue of civilians for civilians, we noticed that there was direct retaliation after there were three civilians that were targeted um in the the village of itarun and between and inata and as you know of course uh three young girls were killed along with their grandmother, their mother is also severely injured, she's still in hospital, and so that led to a direct retaliation from, it was the first time that they actually useusia rockets towards deep in the heart of the ekiputs that are in the areas of the galilei region, so we did see that slight difference, we also have the fact that hezballah has been using more intense and heavier weaponry uh like uh the is

this boycot is considered to be part of a wider movement called the boycott divers. and sanctions bds movement, which was formerly launched in 2005, a coalition of about 170 palestinian grassroots and civil society groups. calls to boycot israel have grown in recent years and it concern about its treatment of palestinians. the movement targets international companies that they say are engaged in violations of palestinian human rights, drawing inspiration from the boycots of south africa during aparthide, the bds movement encourages the continued pressure on those who support israel's genocidal war against palestinians in gaza. it's time to boycott starbucks, disney plus, coca-cola, mcdonald's, walmart and instacar and many other brands, i am deleting all the apps, i am no longer supporting those brands ever again, because they think that what they're doing to palestinians is okay, and it's not. hello and welcome to the quick take section. i'm mattiapolis. when it comes to boycotting israel, it doesn't only include products. there are different boycots from trade to the military, diplo

the bds movement encourages the continued pressure on those who support israel's genocidal war against palestinians in gaza. it's time to boycot starbucks, disney plus, coca-cola, mcdonald's, walmart and instacar and many other brands, i am deleting all the apps, i am no longer supporting those brands ever again, because they think that what they're doing to palestinians is okay, and it's not. hello. hello and welcome to the quick take section, i'm mattiapolisan. when it comes to boycotting israel, it doesn't only include products, there are different boycots from trade to the military, diplomatic ones. all have come into effect in this genocidal war that israel is waging against the gaza strip. one of the starting points can be action from muslim countries, especially regional ones and that would involve boycotting trade with israel. the following shows the respective countries and the amount of trade that they are doing with israel. obviously, a stop to this would definitely hurt israel, especially at this juncture. the other boycott option would be in the... arms and military sector

they've been organizing in promoting the bds campaign, which right now is targeting uh, has targeted campaigns calling out those uh fast food chains such as starbucks. mcdonald's, burger king and subway among many others, they also have targeted campaigns that uh connect uh companies such as airbnb to those illegal settlements on occupied territory and so lot of people right now are going back to the bds and they're looking at those uh different brands, all of which brands and companies, all of which are active and present in canada and completely divesting from them, and that includes a whole long list. uh of companies which uh which people are are taking direct action against by uh stopping, giving business to them and all sorts of other things. thank you for that. camillanto, we appreciated the live from toronto. thank you camilla. palestinians have filed the formal complaint with the international atomic energy agency against the israeli regime over his ministers a threat to nuke the gaza strip. the palestinian foreign minister riad al-malaki an official letter to the ia chief ha

and the bds is one form. i've many disagreements with the tactics of the bds movement.is is not antisemitism. we -- buy defining this as antisemitism, we are losing sight of real danger of antisemitism. >> yes, and that's why want to have this conversation. the brushing of broad strokes of criticism and discussion is difficult conversations that need to be have as simply being antisemitic. professor eddie glaude, we've seen attempts in the past of stifling conversations the press whether it's a discrediting crt, black history, or banning books. we see that manifest and different form. what is at stake here if we cannot have open and honest conversations no matter how difficult they are about israel 's aggressions on gaza or it's broader treatment of palestinians in this precise moment? >> some reflection of the contraction of the space for everyday ordinary people to engage in the kinds of debates that are necessary for the country to move forward. if democracy doesn't have vibrant spaces where people with different views, ayman, can come and have disagreements without

stuart: real fast, can you reverse the boycott divestment sanctions, bds move, can you get rid of it?n cornell university in the spring of 2019 we had a large bds campaign come to campus and we defeated it on the student assembly by one vote. now the majority of the student assembly never been to israel, not jewish, not a personal connectivity to israel but what we did is connected them with israeli executives to teach many members about israel as opposed to screaming and yelling 19-year-olds who don't know about israel telling them that israel isn't apartheid state. i think the solution is more of an education and less screaming. stuart: i'm with you on that one. adam shapiro, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: tesla highly anticipated cyber truck set to begin deliver atat the end of this month but f you want to resale it will cost you 50,000, and we will tell you why. hillary vaughn has the full story of our troubled finances, next. ♪ ♪ ♪ stuart: moodies lowered u.s. credit outlook from negative to stable. that's a downgrade. hillary vaughn, what is th

israeli goods and any sports and cultural ties with this regime are also among the other demands of the bdsement, state systems, puma cutter pillar industries . sangin, hyundai, volvo, barclay bank and motorola are examples of companies that were included in the list of the israel boycott movement. the number of american companies that have joined the movement to boycott israel is not small. internet company airbn has announced that 20 houses in ghettos it has removed the west bank from the list of rental houses due to the encroachment and occupation of palestinian lands. the white house is looking for ways to impose sanctions on boycotting companies. republicans are all in favor of imposing heavy penalties on these companies, but the differences of opinion among the democratic representatives are deep. the boycotters asked all the elites of the world to add the boycott of science to the list of boycotting israel. institute of technology. technion haifa 2011. the israel institute of technology , technion, is a university located in haifa on the shores of the mediterranean sea. technical uni

israeli ambassador who deliberately and openly and seasonly peddles apart it, we are campaigning for bds, boycot ivestment and sanctions in israel, we must isolated like we've isolated south africa during the apart years, we must isolate israel now, now let's bring in mr. shakirukin in nigeria, now the message is quite clear there, the israeli regimes's ambassador is unwanted in south africa. what's your take on this stand by the people? i must say i'm very glad to have my opinion uh taking regarding the uh genocide going on in uh palestine c of uh israeli atrocities uh subsidized in full by the western countries led by united states of america uh with regard to uh the feelings in south africa uh, which clearly shows that uh, the country doesn't want to have anything to do with the apart regime in israel, i think it it it is very appropriate with what uh south africans have experienced uh in their own country as a as as a formal uh settler colonia appartite state, if you remember that uh when apartite was at the peak in south africa, one of the last nations despite a global outcry agains

time there was more violent resistance that was condemned, then there was peaceful resistance, the bds movement, the march, great march of return a few years ago, peaceful, that wasn't acceptable to the world community, so the world community doesn't want uh palestine to resist violently, which under international law has a right to do, or peacefully, it simply wants the palestinian peoples to roll over and die uh so that israel can take uh the whole of palestine, however the palestinian people never. allow this to happen, the resistance is strong, continues to be strong, and should israel uh succeed in destroying hamas, another resistance group will take its place, the answer. to this is not war, the answer to this is following international law, ending uh war crimes and crimes against humanity, holding those guilty of them responsible and letting the people of palestine uh have the country that they were were promised and that they have every right to, israel and united states are not allowing that to happen. all right, thank you robert stay safe. robert fan, tina althor and journali

take some sort of action and lead. way they did not, not even starting, as you say, something like the bds on gaza and palestine, yeah, and he made some interesting comments of the power of the... provisoral lobby in the united states, which is of apec for example, the likes of apech, can i get another squeeze one last question in here, israel has revelled in in victimhood was one of the pillars of its foreign policy, where is that now? well, the um image which have is opposite is some rapist who is raping in victim and he's saying, i'm defending myself against you, the victim, no, the victim is the person is being raped, and the victims here are the two million of inhabitants of ghaza with deprived of food, water, life, in many cases and medical facilities. the victims are the palestinians, the perpetrary oppressors are the israeli army and so on, so it's quite clear where we are now, the situation is inversed, israelis are not the victims, they are the... who are perpetrating the crimes against the real victim the palestinians and with those comments we come to the end of the show, let m

of gravity is, and i think israel is provide going to provide that pretext, and you're going to see bds, i think return with a real vigore, right now uh, exactly, do you also see eye to eye with patrick, because what israel is doing in this genocide that's going on, the more. more it goes on the you know the more awakened people around the world will be and the more they will be pushing their governments to uh look at the the facts and what's happening and not to turn a diff ear to the cris you know the voice of opposition and protest against these really brutalities against palestinians and uh do you see light at the end of tunnel for palestinians? i absolutely do see light at the tunnels i agree with my uh. solution to an extent where you know you can definitely use, the kind of turn the tables on design this occupation uh through refusing to refusing to deal with the occupation, kind of like what happened in south africa, but i do firmly believe that it will be up to the national uh resistance of the palestinians in order to truly get justice to truly reach that light at the end of t

even uh the boycot of israel is being banned in the united states, we've had a law uh which boycots bds stops public authorities from boycotting israel, so you can't even express, you can't even make ethical decision uh to divest from uh you know israel or for a university to stop having links with the state of israel, this is really you know the last all oppressive states in their last stages uh they try to uh ban everything and stop people from uh expressing themselves marching protesting and that leads to unfortunately it leads to greater activity and violence sometimes uh and uh, these are usually the signs of a, of an end game, uh, we saw it in south africa, towards the end, we saw it in ireland where you adams from shin fein, you could broadcast his face, but you couldn't broadcast anything that came out of his mouth on tv at one stage, so uh, so so these and we've seen it in colonial india, in all kinds of colonial states in the past, where those who were leading liberation movements were imprisoned for speaking out, um, laws were passed, criminalizing them. for activities, it's

the massacring and murdering of palestinians, that is something that both divesment and sanction um bds going to see this happening in a in a much maybe higher speed instead of what it was before? yes, now now the country brought. oil producing countries have to take role in this, but pds of course - boycotting, digesting, it's hurting them, now they are being hurt before october 7, they lost lots of investments from high tech companies, more than 500 high tech companies just left our country, left palestine because of this... situation, the internal conflict that they have with the legal legal procedures and all this, it's something minor, but the main thing in in this conflict, internal conflict is between what the zionist movement was thinking, which country they want to live in, what country they want to live in, and by the way they live they don't have any constitution, they only have basic laws and what the ultra orthodox religious fashius groups want, and this struggle between both camps started in the 30s, it didn't start today, but it intensified within the past 30 years and af

quran come to the ear of the people of palestine, and be that through sanctions and be that through bds, and be that through, bringing as much pressure to bur on egypt more than anyone open the rather crossing, israel will not bomb or go into a military conflict with egypt, it doesn't need. to cc is there man, cc is america's man, he is there as a jaaler, he is there as the person who is helping to imprison the people in gaza while they are being murdered a a a almost minute by minute, r by r, the destruction is something comparable to the second world war, and in fact, i just read some of that america has given israel 120. for billion dollars since the end of the second world war, and when you consider that they are willing to give them another 14.8 billion uh shortly in order to prop up their military uh capabilities and their economy which is going into a downward spiral, we we we must put pressure on where it has the most effect and where leverage can be forced upon the egyptians and the jordanians, the jordanian government is responsible for the alaxa mosk from 1967, they have done

the hashtag #bds movement calls on states and institutions to divest from israel and all companies, complicit in the crimes. what are you waiting for, it asks? next up a website says risk of a wider. middle east war threatens a fragile world economy, after shocks from the pandemic and russia's invasion of ukraine, there's little cushion if the fighting between hamas and israel becomes a regional conflict. then top israely economist says the recession is almost certain as leaders warn of a long war. a recession is almost guaranteed. this according to top israeli economists and its prediction, the israeli prime minister benjabin netanyahu warned of a long war with hamas, space. it on that, it appears, then israel's war could lead to economic chaos for countries like egypt, lebanon and jordan and even caused governments to collapse, based on experts warning, each of the three countries is up against differing economic pressures that led the international monetary fund to warn in a september report that they could lose their socio-political stability. now that warning came shortly before the oper

it's a positive act for people who want to do something peaceful and productive, which is what the bds movement is all about, but what we really need are the major hedge funds and the pension funds that are uh investing in israel, we need them today. we need governments like turkey that allows oil and gas and food and other uh necessities to flow to israel uh to uh sanction israel, so we need a complete foreign policy within the region for all the regional governmental actors to come together, but of course it won't happen, blincan is there at this moment in time, he met with the egyptian foreign minister and the jordanian foreign minister and others with the... intention of trying to convince yet again egypt and jordan to check in the palestinians from the west bank and from gaza, he met president abbas, i think that's today. president abbas is the unelected dictator of the palestinian authority. uh, he has no authority, the pa, which has up to 150,000 employed uh employees in the west bank is doing nothing to prevent the settler onslot. idf reads in jeneen and in alcuds and in uh ram

zionist, i want to. you to know how you can support israel in these crazy times: number one: fight the bds boycott by buying things made in israel, like sabah hummus, soda stream or american foreign policy. number two, fight them back. boycot things made in palestine, like olive oil, handicrafts or jesus. number three, pay extra taxes. since 1948, america has given $317 billion. to israel, that's your tax money, so when you pay the irs, throw another 20% top just for israel. i mean, just look at this child, for the cost of cup of coffee a day, you can kill him. number four, pray for israel. there are 1.8 billion muslims in the world, all praying for palestine, so it would make sense that god is biased, but every time you pray for israel, one of their prayers gets cancelled out. even better, pray the muslim prayers backwards, and even the score. number five: christians, while you're in church, please leave out the parts of the bible that are critical of israel, like the old and new testament. number six: palestinians are known for anti-semitic genocidal slogans, like from the river to the s

pile the pressure on israel to try and put an end to the occupation one was as we discussed before the bds movement the boy sanctions of devestment, devestment movement, um, more of that happening on online as well, absolutely, and um, actually something that's come out of uh, you know, going back to the uh communities of palestinians there, that it is not just jews, it is also christians who are there talking about um, the injustices that occur, you, we're going to have look at a tweet in a moment, really something that i want to remind our viewers that this is um... "this is a love um of the land, this is something that comes from being indigenous to to palestine, you know that no matter what religion you are, no matter you know what your your place is in your own personal practice, you know we are all there palestinians together and we will stand side by side, so um when i saw this, my heart really melted, i i thought, yes, you know, um, gone are the days where they can try and divide us, you know, based on what, how we feel about sayid salam or sayid na musa or you know how we pray and

want to call it that i think that there is an impetus now to really take forward initiatives such as bds boys sanctions campaign to to really uh you know israel is now beyond the pale and i think that obviously. not the case with the political class in somewhere like the uk, but i think there's a disconnect now and you're seeing it with with this kind of pro-genocide consensus in the labor and toury party and you think i think labor even though they've been well ahead in the... poles are going to suffer a lot, and so there might be movements in the british political system as a result of this that could that could at least um help uh or pave the way to a more progressive future, and and ultimately, i think the british people know that a political class that supports aids and abets or genocide is not a political class that that is needed for britain, in the vanabon, first of all, i understand perfectly. well appreciate that that this is may not be very easy situation for you uh you're here on your own volition speaking your mind and your your position for the first time so feel free to sa

غزه قاطع عشان غزه absolutely that do donate and support israel mean boycott diversement and sanctions bdsork, it does work with raising awareness, promoting discussion, debates about the conflict, and also exert pressure on internationalization, i feel personally, having fallen foul of some of these, either knowingly or unknowingly, fallen into the oh, i had no idea these guys were supporting, it's it's a pr disaster for them, with enough of their customer'. or formal customer saying, i can't support you and your company whilst you are actively involved, because they care about the money, they're not particularly, bothered about which side, you know, if it's green it's fine, yeah, it's making a difference definitely on certain companies and you know we do need to sort of promote this even more and keep up the pressure, absolutely, okay, uh, your second story, we particular resinance here, yes, absolutely, we have yara eed who's a war journalist, human rights advocate, reports daily in her tweet um honestly it speaks for itself with regards to reporting the daily events of their lives and

and work out how best to target the palestine solidarity movement throughout the world and to target bds and you you can look back at the records of these meetings there, many of them are still online, if not they're on the web archive, and they this is where they came up with the plan to blur together anti-semitism and antizionism, to call antizionism the new anti-semitism as as if it had anything to do with racism against the jews, and that they've determinedly done that, of course that was the process which led to the creation of the ihra, the international remember alliance working definition of anti-semitism, which has been used as cudule to battern and uh batter the palestine solidarity movement in the uk and the us and every other place where it has been adopted. this is the conscious strategy which they have used and and we you can tell that by looking back at their decisions, the decisions are in many cases public in their working groups and the they've been doing this for very very many years and i like to welcome if you could stand by david let me welcome mr micnape here from

counter that which you know we saw and a glaring example of people power came in the... form of the bds uh movement, but while people are, as we saw, as you say at the weekend coming out under the streets, turning up in huge numbers, what are the leaders doing? yes, um, excellent point that you're making there, and i think this next image will will definitely give us kind of a feel of where there are the millions who are out there boycotting and are putting themselves in um, in uncomfortable positions where they are, you know... taking days off work and depriving themselves of their you know bread and butter for the day and protesting, you see the arab nations or the arab leaders um are just sitting around and and enjoy, i don't know if it's enjoying but at least just watching on, we're paying lip service to it all, yeah for sure, we we do have some arabic leaders who are um who do the big talk, but actually so far haven't done much in terms of expelling ambassadors from there. from their countries um shutting down um businesses that that do promote the zionist entity that support the z