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including head coach bill belichick.rson of great integrity and is a great ambassador of the game both on and off the field, yet for reasons that i cannot comprehend, there are those in the league office who are more determined to prove that they were right rather than admit any cullpableility of their own or the initiation of a process and ensuing investigation that was flawed. i've come to the conclusion that this was never about doing what was fair and just. back in may, i had to make a difficult decision that i now regret. i tried to do what i thought was right. i chose not to take legal action. i wanted to return the focus to football. i have been negotiating agreements on a global basis my entire life. i know there are times when you have to give up important points of principle to achieve a greater good. i acted in good faith and was optimistic that by taking the actions i took the league would have what they wanted. i was willing to accept the harshest penalty in the history of the nfl for an alleged ball violati
including head coach bill belichick.rson of great integrity and is a great ambassador of the game both on and off the field, yet for reasons that i cannot comprehend, there are those in the league office who are more determined to prove that they were right rather than admit any cullpableility of their own or the initiation of a process and ensuing investigation that was flawed. i've come to the conclusion that this was never about doing what was fair and just. back in may, i had to make a...
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>> vintage bill belichick. he says he's not going to talk about it.out it. still wearing that sweatshirt. robert kraft, passionate remarks. rachel nichols, he is angry. >> he is. i want to note bill belichick doesn't even have the sleeves cut off that sweatshirt that's dedication. you have to point that out. robert kraft -- make no mistake, he's been roger goodell's biggest supporter for years and he is one of the most powerful owners in the nfl. the level of the shot that he just walked out on that podium and took at roger goodell and the nfl is enormous and could have serious reverberations. he basically is saying that he was duped. he said he agreed -- when he kept referring to the decision he made in may, what he's talking about is his decision after the initial round of punishments came out to as a team quote, accept the nfl's decision. now, the entire time they did it kicking and screaming. they published that whole website saying how the ted wells report was wrong but they said despite, they felt that they were being railroaded they would be th
>> vintage bill belichick. he says he's not going to talk about it.out it. still wearing that sweatshirt. robert kraft, passionate remarks. rachel nichols, he is angry. >> he is. i want to note bill belichick doesn't even have the sleeves cut off that sweatshirt that's dedication. you have to point that out. robert kraft -- make no mistake, he's been roger goodell's biggest supporter for years and he is one of the most powerful owners in the nfl. the level of the shot that he just...
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but that's belichick.ove what everyone's saying, and i think the key thing here is that the players did agree by the collective bargaining agreement, they could have made a point to remove that power from goodell, and time and time again, goodell throws the hammer down on these players and the agents and the union, they cry foul. but you know what? these guys signed that deal, and it's good for ten years. and as long as he wants to be, goodell can be judge, juror and the executioner which in this case he very well is. trish: we have learned that the nfl is upholding that four-game suspension for tom brady. we have also learned that, apparently, tom brady destroyed his cell phone so as to not have to provide any kind of evidence to the nfl as they conducted that investigation, the wells report, of course, which revealed some text exchanges that went back and forth between the ballboys that were handling tom brady's footballs there. geraldo on set with me along with judge napolitano, and what does this guy d
but that's belichick.ove what everyone's saying, and i think the key thing here is that the players did agree by the collective bargaining agreement, they could have made a point to remove that power from goodell, and time and time again, goodell throws the hammer down on these players and the agents and the union, they cry foul. but you know what? these guys signed that deal, and it's good for ten years. and as long as he wants to be, goodell can be judge, juror and the executioner which in...
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> you got to love the vintage belichick. tom brady assaulted the integrity of the game at its second most critical juncture, the league championship. trish: you are right, judge. always good to see you. adam shapiro thanks. we'll be back, talking about twitter, right after this. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. joy is coming from a senate hearing where lawmakers agree ling irs commissioner john ko i koskin koskinen. president obama had been trying to downplay this. >> congress passed a crummy law that didn't give people guidance. >> today new evidence has been released from the irs itself that reveals the agency was actively trying to prevent non profits from complaining about their poor treatment years ago. gerri willis has been listening to these hearings. tell us about this smoking gun evidence. >> every scandal has a smoking gun and this one does too. this is from an irs cincinnati official who writes to less lerner i instructed one of my managers to get an addi
> you got to love the vintage belichick. tom brady assaulted the integrity of the game at its second most critical juncture, the league championship. trish: you are right, judge. always good to see you. adam shapiro thanks. we'll be back, talking about twitter, right after this. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. joy is coming from a senate hearing where lawmakers agree ling irs commissioner john ko i koskin koskinen. president obama...
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i have a lot of respect for bill belichick. he's a great coast. you have to commend him for what he's done. the history is showing that they will break the rules to win, because it takes precedence over everything. liz: i wish he cheated when he was with the browns. that's my team. [ laughter ] >> you know what? the thing is, here's the thing, liz, in every sport somebody cheats in some kind of way. i'm not saying every player does. but there is some bending of the rules or manipulation of the rules. when you're on top like the patriots have been on top for so many years, there are other teams saying well, how are they doing that? they're doing it this way, and all of a sudden you see it in college football all the time. you don't care about the teams that go 3-8 about their recruiting violations. you don't look at them and they don't get on probation when they go 3-8. when they start winning championships and conference championships every single year, that's when other coaches look into the program, and with the patriots on top for the last 15 y
i have a lot of respect for bill belichick. he's a great coast. you have to commend him for what he's done. the history is showing that they will break the rules to win, because it takes precedence over everything. liz: i wish he cheated when he was with the browns. that's my team. [ laughter ] >> you know what? the thing is, here's the thing, liz, in every sport somebody cheats in some kind of way. i'm not saying every player does. but there is some bending of the rules or manipulation...
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when we come back, bill belichick is set to hold a news conference this morning. there's a shot.ere live and see if he fields any questions regarding tom brady and the nfl decision yesterday. we'll get to stop trading with jim in just a moment too. dow is down 17. don't go away. trading. >> when this year is over this quarter the companies that will have have been the best is the defense stocks. a lot of it is because of iran and general dynamics were amazing. an additional short squeeze in general dynamics. gold stream backlog is fabulous. these are amazing companies. this is the area to be in because we are not going to defend what used to be our allies. it's all pretty clear. we're pulling back everywhere. japan, nato pulling back. middle east pulling back. these countries have no choice but to write giant checks to general dynamics and that's why those stocks are up and it has to do with geo politics. >> backlog up. er a. >> then from north rop, these guys are buying back stock, taking money in. a lot of big short base in it. it's the world spending on defense and these guys
when we come back, bill belichick is set to hold a news conference this morning. there's a shot.ere live and see if he fields any questions regarding tom brady and the nfl decision yesterday. we'll get to stop trading with jim in just a moment too. dow is down 17. don't go away. trading. >> when this year is over this quarter the companies that will have have been the best is the defense stocks. a lot of it is because of iran and general dynamics were amazing. an additional short squeeze...
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there was patriots coach bill belichick. clearly not enjoying that press conference. both he and patriots owner bob kraft have been speaking today about the four-game suspension for star cornerback tom brady that has been upheld. matt: bill belichick kicked off the press conference saying, it's great to see you all back here. clearly, not meaning that. you cannot believe anything he says after that point. it is interesting that the patriots owner is really angry at the nfl about this and talking about the fact that he should not have put his faith in the nfl. should not have put his faith elite and should not have put his faith in roger goodell. i think roger goodell council on that support when he has issues -- counts on that support when he has issues or any other kinds of issues. olivia: good dell leads the team owner support. matt: he is a very influential owner. interesting to watch what is going on there. tom brady apparently destroyed his phone. he said he did not do that to stop information from getting to the nfl. olivia: he actually posted on his facebook pa
there was patriots coach bill belichick. clearly not enjoying that press conference. both he and patriots owner bob kraft have been speaking today about the four-game suspension for star cornerback tom brady that has been upheld. matt: bill belichick kicked off the press conference saying, it's great to see you all back here. clearly, not meaning that. you cannot believe anything he says after that point. it is interesting that the patriots owner is really angry at the nfl about this and...
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bill belichick with a human face. >> and actually who says something too. >> as opposed to belichicko his underground lair where he just -- i don't know what he does down there. >> these two guys are winners, belichick and ledger. >> absolutely. they are big winners. up this morning. almost 2.5 plus%. >> that's a great quarter. >> facebook was a great quarter. i expect people to sell on that. you want to distinguish yourself as being a moron. you should sell it right here. some people say put a 35 and more of a reason to sell. i am being facetious. >> finally, we shut hit procter & gamble. we talked about it of course, yesterday, after the announced change in leadership which will take place november 1st. david tailor taking over as ceo. a.j. lafley will remain as executive chairman. the stock down over 3% as they reported numbers on the call. lafley saying they had a challenging year due to unprecedented effects impact. stronger dollar. changing in grooming fashions and habits. i guess that also has to do with beards. growth of online competitors. >> i mentioned twitter. a mistake.
bill belichick with a human face. >> and actually who says something too. >> as opposed to belichicko his underground lair where he just -- i don't know what he does down there. >> these two guys are winners, belichick and ledger. >> absolutely. they are big winners. up this morning. almost 2.5 plus%. >> that's a great quarter. >> facebook was a great quarter. i expect people to sell on that. you want to distinguish yourself as being a moron. you should sell...
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now we're waiting to hear from patriots coach bill belichick. patriots quarterback tom brady will sit out the game's first four games of the season. the investigation found that he was, quote, at least generally aware of several underinflated footballs during the patriots afc championship win earlier this year. in a ruling goodell also found that brady destroyed his cell phone before meeting with investigators. >>> angie goff will have a building collapse killing several people. >>> taking a look outside, on a hot day it's very hot and humid out there. 75 degrees. feels hotter than that. aaron? >> yes. >> okay. >>> i'm angie goff at the live desk. we've got a frantic scene out of india we're following. take a look at this. debrises and crumbled concrete after a two-story building collapses. they're looking for anyone still strapped in this rubble. we know ten people are confirmed dead. many others being treated in the hospital for their injuries. the building had been in bad shape for years and is believed to have finally given in following a st
now we're waiting to hear from patriots coach bill belichick. patriots quarterback tom brady will sit out the game's first four games of the season. the investigation found that he was, quote, at least generally aware of several underinflated footballs during the patriots afc championship win earlier this year. in a ruling goodell also found that brady destroyed his cell phone before meeting with investigators. >>> angie goff will have a building collapse killing several people....
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we're expecting to hear from bill belichick in about an hour. now to a developing story in the southeast, disappointing morning for the families of two missing florida teens. reports of a floating object near tybee island came up short. it's day five of the search for 14-year-olds austin stef nos and perry cohen who disappeared on friday. the coast guard carried out 39 separate missions and covered 30,000 square miles searching for the two boys whose boat turned up 180 miles north of their starting point in florida. kerry sanders joins me from jupiter, florida with the very latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. when somebody onshore looked out and thought they saw something floating. they immediately called authorities. coast guard launched two helicopters as well as boats to search the area through the night into the daylight hours but it does turn out it is a false lead. meantime as you look at the live picture here of the sea state, you can see right now we have about 1 to 2 foot seas but in the next 24 hours, the weather is
we're expecting to hear from bill belichick in about an hour. now to a developing story in the southeast, disappointing morning for the families of two missing florida teens. reports of a floating object near tybee island came up short. it's day five of the search for 14-year-olds austin stef nos and perry cohen who disappeared on friday. the coast guard carried out 39 separate missions and covered 30,000 square miles searching for the two boys whose boat turned up 180 miles north of their...
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nice try, belichick. we have a fun show tonight.usic from extremely talented tyler the creator is here. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: the enchanting christina applegate is with us. [ cheers and applause ] and rick springfield is here too. [ cheers and applause ] rick is promoting his new movie with meryl streep "ricky and the flash." he's best known for his many hits, in particular the song "sister jesse's girl." do you know this song,by yare mow? >> guillermo: no idea. ♪ jesse is a friend a good friend of mine ♪ >> jimmy: no? >> guillermo: no. >> jimmy: it must have been before you came here here, i guess. >> guillermo: long time ago. >> jimmy: it came out in 1981, it's a great song, it's a classic. i've always wondered what specifically it's about. turns out they shot a film of the recording session. they have footage of the first time rick and his wand ever played it. and it's fascinating to watch. for the first time ever now i present to you the exclusive -- this is never before seen origin story of "jesse's girl." >> all ri
nice try, belichick. we have a fun show tonight.usic from extremely talented tyler the creator is here. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: the enchanting christina applegate is with us. [ cheers and applause ] and rick springfield is here too. [ cheers and applause ] rick is promoting his new movie with meryl streep "ricky and the flash." he's best known for his many hits, in particular the song "sister jesse's girl." do you know this song,by yare mow? >>...
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patriots coach bill belichick gave a terse answer when asked about the controversy. >> i'm worried about today's practice and how our team performs. i don't have any control over all the other questions that have been asked here about the weather and a bunch of other stuff, so you're asking the wrong person. >> a plane hired by rival jet fans flew over the field with banner that said, "cheaters, look up." >>> they were two away from a victory when the skies opened up. juston upton put san diego ahead with a two of run. another delay with nearly three hours long. the padres finish off the comeback, 8-7. >>> winter is coming and so is the end of "game of thrones." lombardo hinted a prequel series a possibility. brace yourself, john snow fans. they say the popular character is dead. dead is dead. >>> coming up after your local news on "cbs this morning," classes for adults learning how to ride a bicycle for the first time. i'm alison harmelin. this is the "cbs morning news." exactly. try some... mmm, it is real milk. lactaid . 100% real milk. no discomfort. i hate cleaning the gutters. have
patriots coach bill belichick gave a terse answer when asked about the controversy. >> i'm worried about today's practice and how our team performs. i don't have any control over all the other questions that have been asked here about the weather and a bunch of other stuff, so you're asking the wrong person. >> a plane hired by rival jet fans flew over the field with banner that said, "cheaters, look up." >>> they were two away from a victory when the skies opened...
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because a lot of people are sick of tom brady and bill belichick and this entire image they have of being shoes in the forefront but behind the scenes being much less than that. >> let's talk legacy. is he going to be remembered as one of the all-time greats or one of the all trooim great cheaters. >> more so the latter. because here is the other thing. we got this going on here. deflategate. you have spygate back there. and the other thing, remember last year the nfl had to change its rule book because of the substitution patterns of brady and belichick. and you also have them spending the decades out there fooling around with the scouting report or injury report. so god knows what else is out there lying in the weeds. put this together and as time goes on people are going to be talking about this as much as what he did on the field and legaciwise that is not a good thing. >> terrence moore with us here tonight. appreciate your time. thanks so much. still to come on the "ed show," why trump is beating every republican to the polls. stay with us. we're right back. >>> i'm courtney reagan
because a lot of people are sick of tom brady and bill belichick and this entire image they have of being shoes in the forefront but behind the scenes being much less than that. >> let's talk legacy. is he going to be remembered as one of the all-time greats or one of the all trooim great cheaters. >> more so the latter. because here is the other thing. we got this going on here. deflategate. you have spygate back there. and the other thing, remember last year the nfl had to change...
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now, we'll wait to hear what coach belichick had had to say. patriots quarterback tom brady is now out for officially the first four games of the season. an investigation found he was, quote, at least generally aware of underinflated footballs last season. in goodell's ruling yesterday, the nfl also revealed brady destroyed his cell phone before meeting with investigators this year. >>> new developments in the search for two florida teens who vanished in the middle of a fishing trip. why friends and family are now starting to lose hope. >>> and a live look outside this morning, a lot of our morning team says that they ran into some fog into the way in this morning? but will you? tom's back with the walk to work forecast. >>> and the time may life's the food that brings us together. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. life's the food that brings us together. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. >>> a community now effectively mourning two teenagers who are lost at sea. take a look. this is a
now, we'll wait to hear what coach belichick had had to say. patriots quarterback tom brady is now out for officially the first four games of the season. an investigation found he was, quote, at least generally aware of underinflated footballs last season. in goodell's ruling yesterday, the nfl also revealed brady destroyed his cell phone before meeting with investigators this year. >>> new developments in the search for two florida teens who vanished in the middle of a fishing trip....
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coach bill belichick did not answer questions about the scandal during a news conference this morningmagic moment at last night's giants game at at&t park. take a look. [ applause and cheers ] >> you can guess, giants fan proposed and his girlfriend said yes. roberta was right there when it happened. i believe she took the video, too. unfortunately, though, the giants did lose to the brewers. >>> the giants hope to redeem themselves today and you may see some familiar faces on the will on the field. paul deanno and frank mallicoat will be ball dudes. thinks frank's third time and paul's first. frank is on third, paul is on first base. the giants are playing today. >> i think it's amazing that his baseball uniform from the third grade still fits him. [ laughter ] >>> time to look at our weather watchers around the microclimates so we can see the difference in temperatures around the bay area at this time. let's look at the numbers. 97 in san ramon. dana wrote me an observation from novato saying, you know, it's 97 degrees, bring on the fog! and so dana, i got to tell ya, your wish is m
coach bill belichick did not answer questions about the scandal during a news conference this morningmagic moment at last night's giants game at at&t park. take a look. [ applause and cheers ] >> you can guess, giants fan proposed and his girlfriend said yes. roberta was right there when it happened. i believe she took the video, too. unfortunately, though, the giants did lose to the brewers. >>> the giants hope to redeem themselves today and you may see some familiar faces...
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patriot' head coach bill belichick is also expected to speak at a news conference this morning. alison? >>> a strong earthquake rattled south central alaska but no damage was recorded. it was centered about 145 miles southwest of anchorage near the volcano. our anchorage affiliate ktva was on the air when the quake hit. anchorage res debltss say they felt a slow rolling that last several seconds and then a jolt. operations at a third well were reduced. wastewater and oil and gas drill has been linked to earthquakes in that state. the quake on monday and tuesday did not cause serious damage or injury. >>> and coming up on the "morning news" a hunter becomes the hunted. he faces a historic legal trouble for killing a lion in the african safari. this is the "cbs morning news." or obsess about security. for them, every screen is meant to be touched. and web pages are meant to be scribbled on, and shared. they'll expect their devices to listen to them. and talk. and sing. and tell a funny joke. and as they grow, and get better at things their technology will too. they'll do things th
patriot' head coach bill belichick is also expected to speak at a news conference this morning. alison? >>> a strong earthquake rattled south central alaska but no damage was recorded. it was centered about 145 miles southwest of anchorage near the volcano. our anchorage affiliate ktva was on the air when the quake hit. anchorage res debltss say they felt a slow rolling that last several seconds and then a jolt. operations at a third well were reduced. wastewater and oil and gas drill...
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. >> head coach bill belichick who followed kraft deflected question. the situation in facebook defending himself against the nfl that claimed he intentionally destroyed his cell phone during last season's situation. >> is that painful story over yet? >> not yet. >>> i want to get to highlights. >> all right. from toronto, troy's spectacular debut after being traded tuesday. homered and hit a pair of doubles, good for three rbis. great start for him. >>> now to minnesota. pirates against the twins in the sixth with two men on. >> hit toward right field. that's down for a hit. it gets past. decker is waved home. mccutchen toward third base. two more runs come in. the ball gets away. mccutchen collided with nunez. mccutchen will score. three runs come in. the pirates lead 8-3. >> that's just some sloppy -- i don't play baseball and think i could done better than weather. >> let's not get carried away. >> this allowed mccutchen to circle the bases for a home run. >> you could have been a captain of the bad news bears. >> never know. >>> flores receiving a
. >> head coach bill belichick who followed kraft deflected question. the situation in facebook defending himself against the nfl that claimed he intentionally destroyed his cell phone during last season's situation. >> is that painful story over yet? >> not yet. >>> i want to get to highlights. >> all right. from toronto, troy's spectacular debut after being traded tuesday. homered and hit a pair of doubles, good for three rbis. great start for him....
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. >>> head coach of the new england patriots bill belichick will get questions on the nfl's decision to uphold tom brady's four-game suspension. vai sikahema is here with more on that. >> we learned about the tom brady deflategate decision yesterday. the nfl players union is vowing to take brady's suspension to court. league investigators say brady destroyed his cell phone and nearly 10,000 text messages which could have been evidence in the case. the nfl says the patriots intentionally deflated footballs in lastier's afc championship game. >>> the phillies traded papelbon to the national washingtons for a minor league pitcher. papelbon is the phillies all-time leader in saves. he lobbied the team for the trade. >>> the clock is ticking on trade talks for phillies ace cole hamels. the major league trading deadline is friday afternoon at 4:00. reports say the rangers and the dodgers are among the teams who want him. it's likely hamilton enhanced his trade value by pitching the no-hitter against the cubs last week. >>> in horse racing american pharaoh will arrive in new jersey for the
. >>> head coach of the new england patriots bill belichick will get questions on the nfl's decision to uphold tom brady's four-game suspension. vai sikahema is here with more on that. >> we learned about the tom brady deflategate decision yesterday. the nfl players union is vowing to take brady's suspension to court. league investigators say brady destroyed his cell phone and nearly 10,000 text messages which could have been evidence in the case. the nfl says the patriots...
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request, the nfl says brady destroyed his cell phone before he was to meet with investigators, bill belichick scheduled to speak tomorrow at patriots training camp. i don't think he's going to say much. >>> i'm john clark, we're right back. >>> what we're all waiting for "the tonight show with jimmy fallon". >> let's check in with jimmy and see what's in store. >> danny devito is here. music from george ezra. it's a great show, do not change the channel. >> we're going to learn that soon, aren't we? >> we all know flip cup, i think. the heat is the main thing we're concerned about as we go through the next several days. stay hydrated try to stay in the air conditioning it's going to be humid too, by thursday some areas could see 100 degrees. it's going to stay hot as we go through the weekend. look at the next 7 days, we don't have any temperatures below 90 degrees for our high this is going to be a prolonged heat wave today is the first day of the heat wave hitting 934 degrees, it's going to stay hot. the only relief we're going to see is thursday with any thunderstorms, it's still going to
request, the nfl says brady destroyed his cell phone before he was to meet with investigators, bill belichick scheduled to speak tomorrow at patriots training camp. i don't think he's going to say much. >>> i'm john clark, we're right back. >>> what we're all waiting for "the tonight show with jimmy fallon". >> let's check in with jimmy and see what's in store. >> danny devito is here. music from george ezra. it's a great show, do not change the channel....
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. >> reporter: patriots coach bill belichick had little to say on the issue, deflecting reporter questions. >> we're going to take it day to day. we start training camp. it's already been addressed. >> reporter: no home field advantage for one boston sports columnist, calling brady and the team cheaters. >> i think that common sense tells you they were up to something here and their continued insistence that they didn't do anything wrong i think is one of the reasons they're in the predicament they're in. >> reporter: deflategate rages on, now moving from the court of public opinion to federal court. ron mott, nbc news, boston. >>> after six days of searching the coast guard says it is not giving up on the desperate race to find two teens missing off the florida coast. they vanished on friday. their boat was found sunday without a trace of either of them. their families are holding out hope of finding them alive. they describe the boys as experienced on the water. >>> still ahead tonight, an american dentist now in hiding amid intense outrage over the killing of that beloved lion in africa
. >> reporter: patriots coach bill belichick had little to say on the issue, deflecting reporter questions. >> we're going to take it day to day. we start training camp. it's already been addressed. >> reporter: no home field advantage for one boston sports columnist, calling brady and the team cheaters. >> i think that common sense tells you they were up to something here and their continued insistence that they didn't do anything wrong i think is one of the reasons...
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their head coach bill belichick will have a news conference tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. we'll see what, if anything he has to say tomorrow. >>> next at 11:00, a 911 dispatcher hangs up on a teenager, her friend dying in her arms. >> okay you know what, ma'am? you can deal with this yourself. i'm not going to deal with this, okay? >> the victim's mother responds after hearing it pour the first time. >>> an american hunter responding to outrage over the killing of a revered african lion. why he says killing cecil was legal. >>> and a local police station could sit empty for a year. >> we're going implement the budget that they gave us. >> county leaders respond to a our story and allegations about political motive. >>> strong reaction tonight to a story you saw first on 4, from prince georges county executive. he says the delayed opening of a $14 million police station is no surprise. baker says he has worked for the past five years to make sure the district 7 station in fort washington was built. he says he warned the county council that the budget they passed wouldn't pr
their head coach bill belichick will have a news conference tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. we'll see what, if anything he has to say tomorrow. >>> next at 11:00, a 911 dispatcher hangs up on a teenager, her friend dying in her arms. >> okay you know what, ma'am? you can deal with this yourself. i'm not going to deal with this, okay? >> the victim's mother responds after hearing it pour the first time. >>> an american hunter responding to outrage over the killing of a...
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si.com puts eagles head coach a spot ahead of four time super bowl champion coach bill belichick. top two most influential have not been announced bird open up training camp. >> third is in the bad. >> that is pretty good. >> the first two haven't been announced. >> yes, in good company. >> still ahead on "eyewitness news", discount grocery chain is opening up new stores in the area. >> but first here's is what coming up on cbs-3. >> jordan spieth. >> say that again three times. >> jordan spieth. alti is expanding opening hup new informs today. >> one of those stories here in the 2100 block of route 38 in cherry hill. that used to be a bottom dollar food store there are other stores opening in lumberton, coatsville and willow grove. aldi says it will open up 24 new stores in our area by the end of the year. >>> shoppers, listen up, center city philadelphia scores another major retailer. blooming dale's announced it will open up a a outlet store at the shops of the liberty place. the it will be the first blooming dale's outlet in the philadelphia region. 23,000 square foot stories
si.com puts eagles head coach a spot ahead of four time super bowl champion coach bill belichick. top two most influential have not been announced bird open up training camp. >> third is in the bad. >> that is pretty good. >> the first two haven't been announced. >> yes, in good company. >> still ahead on "eyewitness news", discount grocery chain is opening up new stores in the area. >> but first here's is what coming up on cbs-3. >> jordan...
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. >> rose: what about bill belichick. weighs there with robert kraft. >> bill belichick pulled what he normally does which si don't want to talk about it. appropriate skouls. it was notable that he was wearing a hoodie on a day when it was approaching a hundred degrees. but no he held his ground and just said look it's been talked about by other people. i think he's exhausted by it. and obviously when your best player is being sidelined it's got to be troublesome for him. but i think he's leafing it the ownership now and the lawyers. >> rose: what is likely to happen in the courts. >> the first thing is they have to decide where to try this, you have jurisdictional issues. in sther ree you could have both courts making parallel decisions. even if minnesota judge takes it on there and agrees to hear the case, then you have a question of can the union get an injunction to stop the suspension while the league while all the legal elements play out. because in a couple of weeks brady will be suspended for the first game of the
. >> rose: what about bill belichick. weighs there with robert kraft. >> bill belichick pulled what he normally does which si don't want to talk about it. appropriate skouls. it was notable that he was wearing a hoodie on a day when it was approaching a hundred degrees. but no he held his ground and just said look it's been talked about by other people. i think he's exhausted by it. and obviously when your best player is being sidelined it's got to be troublesome for him. but i...
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maria: breaking news on the bill belichick addressing the media at 10:00 a.m. >> john, you go from theoger goodell and then the public corporate tom brady is on facebook right now. what is the next court this gets resolved in? >> i don't know. they may end up in the united states district court. they've got to base it on lack of due process and fundamental fairness. i think was in the commissioner handed him one because it was simply no notice. be disciplined for failing to turn over his telephone. he otherwise cooperated and wells never gave him the notice. now the commissioner says i'm going to hang you because you didn't turn over the phone. the other question is what are they looking for? what is supposedly in a cell phone? i don't get it. they don't say anywhere. to me, we are covering our backsides here because i'll tell you, the scientific wells report is so flawed in its been demolished by all kinds of independent experts. maria: we hear from a number of austin journalist, dan shaughnessy has said grady should give up the fight and at some point he was going to get frustrated.
maria: breaking news on the bill belichick addressing the media at 10:00 a.m. >> john, you go from theoger goodell and then the public corporate tom brady is on facebook right now. what is the next court this gets resolved in? >> i don't know. they may end up in the united states district court. they've got to base it on lack of due process and fundamental fairness. i think was in the commissioner handed him one because it was simply no notice. be disciplined for failing to turn...
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you do not have your from bill belichick on physics.om brady's credibility has been undercut severely, which will bolster roger goodell's case. by destroying his cell phone, he has essentially admitted the findings are correct. charlie: by acknowledging he destroyed his cell phone, he has admitted the findings of the wells commission are correct? ken: that is how the nfl will see it. charlie: you cannot necessarily assume that is true. but if you looked at it in the most likely scenario, that is the argument they will make. ken: then we get into a martha stewart scenario where it is not the crime itself, it is the cover-up. now it is going to end up in court. we will hear it through most of the season unless there is a stay. charlie: what are the options for tom brady? ken: his legacy is at issue when a hall of famer vote comes up. he is already wealthy and has a super bowl ring, so maybe it will not matter. charlie: he seems like a man that reputation means everything. rachel: you have the name cheater attached to your name. it will be
you do not have your from bill belichick on physics.om brady's credibility has been undercut severely, which will bolster roger goodell's case. by destroying his cell phone, he has essentially admitted the findings are correct. charlie: by acknowledging he destroyed his cell phone, he has admitted the findings of the wells commission are correct? ken: that is how the nfl will see it. charlie: you cannot necessarily assume that is true. but if you looked at it in the most likely scenario, that...
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because that had been preceded by a news conference from his coach, bill belichick and he said i have. you have to ask tom. everyone went and asked tom. there were some holes in the press conference. he came back later over the ensuing week or two and made stronger statements. so it may be in that news conference he was a little nervous or didn't know quite what to say or maybe he had been prepped in the interim time. in that moment there were a lot of people questioning what he said and i'm sure we'll replay it here in the next hour. >> yes. yes. >> we will be replaying it over and over again. >> yes, we will. >> over the coming weeks because now, again, it's in question. tom brady could likely very welcome out and say, hey, i always destroy my cell phones every few months after i get a new cell phone. i can tell you for a fact a lot of nfl players, nba players change phones with more regularity than you would imagine. >> really? >> all of us normal people we get our telephone, have a two-year contract we break it desperately try to fex it or peer for through the shattered glass. it'
because that had been preceded by a news conference from his coach, bill belichick and he said i have. you have to ask tom. everyone went and asked tom. there were some holes in the press conference. he came back later over the ensuing week or two and made stronger statements. so it may be in that news conference he was a little nervous or didn't know quite what to say or maybe he had been prepped in the interim time. in that moment there were a lot of people questioning what he said and i'm...
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. >> who sglbts new england patriots bill belichick dodged questions about his suspensions. >> he wouldn't talk no matter how hard reporters rz pushed. >> sorry it's been addressed. >> no. >> why not? >> it's already been addres addressed. >> people have a lot of questions you know public demand? >> you heard what robert just said, it's already been addressed. you have to go back and look at your notes. >> it's already been addresse addressed. >> we're going to continue top get the team ready for 2015 season and that's what we'll d do. >> how difficult is getting ready when you may not know who the quarterback will be for the first four games. >> all the players out there will practice. just like they always do. >> i'm just here so i won't get find. >> basically. >> in other words be. >> why wow ask a cheater about another cheater. >> it has been addressed. >> on this thursday? >> yes, it is thursday. look at that. >> people lined up to sing. >> yeah. >> all right. cole hamels headed to texas. so, who are we getting in return? >> six players. >> more on the trade with we come back. >> and
. >> who sglbts new england patriots bill belichick dodged questions about his suspensions. >> he wouldn't talk no matter how hard reporters rz pushed. >> sorry it's been addressed. >> no. >> why not? >> it's already been addres addressed. >> people have a lot of questions you know public demand? >> you heard what robert just said, it's already been addressed. you have to go back and look at your notes. >> it's already been addresse...
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we'll hear also from bill belichick, the first news conference from training camp. a new investigation found that brady quote, at least was generally aware of the deflated footballs earlier this year in an afc championship. also the report says that brady destroyed his cell phone before the investigation. bob costas will talk to matt lauer with what's neckxt at 7:00 a.m. >>> a few things to know before you go out the door. a rave is under way in northeast washington. people are wrapping up yoga. the dance party starts after that. this is an alternative to the overnight raves for us morning folks. >>> a hearing for high-ranking state department employee starts in a couple hours. d.c. police say daniel rosen stalked women and secretly recorded them in the hughes street adams morgan neighborhoods. >>> police say a 54-year-old richard cusick lost control of his car and died in clarksburg. >>> another issue right now, inbound 66 at 123, very slow. a four-mile backup because of a crash there. bradley boulevard and bethesda still shut down all day. take river, old georgeto
we'll hear also from bill belichick, the first news conference from training camp. a new investigation found that brady quote, at least was generally aware of the deflated footballs earlier this year in an afc championship. also the report says that brady destroyed his cell phone before the investigation. bob costas will talk to matt lauer with what's neckxt at 7:00 a.m. >>> a few things to know before you go out the door. a rave is under way in northeast washington. people are...
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tom brady who, after all, if it's not for tom brady, they don't have four championships and coach belichick is not considered the greatest coach ever and bob kraft doesn't have a two or three billion dollar franchise. tom brady is the reason why the engine runs. tough day for the patriots. tough day for the nfl league office and tom brady is going fight back. >> you know, you come to this with a lot of varying experiences and knowledge bases. but i want to turn first to just as you look at sports, what kind of idiots would go after the top producer in your league, one of them, a brand that is as recognizable as the shield itself, and inextricable from what i said in the commentary. this looks like management gone mad in any other business. >> the one tragic flaw that roger goodell has is to investigate everything and prosecute everything which is odd, he didn't go to law school. the only one of the four big commissioners who isn't. lou: that may be changed soon. looks like they need a full-time lawyer in that seat. >> he's put a lot of the credibility of his office into a very narrow basket
tom brady who, after all, if it's not for tom brady, they don't have four championships and coach belichick is not considered the greatest coach ever and bob kraft doesn't have a two or three billion dollar franchise. tom brady is the reason why the engine runs. tough day for the patriots. tough day for the nfl league office and tom brady is going fight back. >> you know, you come to this with a lot of varying experiences and knowledge bases. but i want to turn first to just as you look...
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belichick most of the area should be dry on sunday with a high of 86 in sunshine.ere was the line is we have through saturday night for the majority of fireworks displays. we are continuing to hope that this may be kind of cloudy at times. we think the rain should be over by 6:00 or 7:00. anytime before the fireworks started 9:00. kimberly: the humidity makes the clouds and the smoke from the fireworks linger. leon: abc 7 stormwatch team will keep you updated throughout the holiday weekend. you can walk -- log on to wjla.com for weather in text alerts on your phone. kimberly: you have probably been asked if you want fries with that? why the postal service might be asking if you want a cd with that? leon: whole lot of pineapple? by win virginia storm is particularly proud of this display/ kimberly: a change is coming a sweet briar college struggles to open. reporter: traffic cameras are just about everywhere in the district get coming up, whether contracts for some of them are now under review. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ leon: watchdog investigator chris is live in double track seven
belichick most of the area should be dry on sunday with a high of 86 in sunshine.ere was the line is we have through saturday night for the majority of fireworks displays. we are continuing to hope that this may be kind of cloudy at times. we think the rain should be over by 6:00 or 7:00. anytime before the fireworks started 9:00. kimberly: the humidity makes the clouds and the smoke from the fireworks linger. leon: abc 7 stormwatch team will keep you updated throughout the holiday weekend. you...
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brady's comments about the nfl commissioner's decision and hear what new england patriots coach bill belichick just said about his star quarterback. >>> excessive heat warnings in effect right now and also tracking our chance of showers and storms. >>> weir back with breaking news happening right now. this is the u.s. district attorney. he just announced a 29-count indictment against u.s. congressman of philadelphia chaka fatah and four other people on charges including racketeering and many other counts. let's listen in for a moment. >> finally, bonnie browser, district chief of staff in congressman fatah's philadelphia office and the treasurer of fatah for mayor and fatah for congress campaign organization. the racketeering in count one outlines five schemes in which congressman fatah and co-conspirators sought to enrich themselves financially and politically. the schemes can be briefly described as follows. scheme one, the 2007 mayoral campaign. the indictment alleges that in connection with this failed 2007 campaign to serve as mayor of philadelphia congressman fatah and several associates
brady's comments about the nfl commissioner's decision and hear what new england patriots coach bill belichick just said about his star quarterback. >>> excessive heat warnings in effect right now and also tracking our chance of showers and storms. >>> weir back with breaking news happening right now. this is the u.s. district attorney. he just announced a 29-count indictment against u.s. congressman of philadelphia chaka fatah and four other people on charges including...
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because belichick, i don't know. the commissioner says brady new about the phone.allagher has more. he knew they wanted the phone, his assistant destroyed the phone that sounds like enough. >> roger goodell served as the sole arbitrator for the hearing in june. the independent investigator who initially found that tom brady likely knew the footballs were being deflated. brady's lawyers says wells did not offer proof that brady had any knowledge of the air being let out of the balls. now you have the bombshell, the commissioner saying look in fact the reason we're upholding the punishment is that instead of turning over the cell phone, brady ordered the phone be destroyed. he says his deliberate destruction of relevant evidence went beyond a failure to cooperate. instead inthe commissioner believes brady was trying to hide evidence. the evidence being lost messages including alleged messages to the equipment guys accused of actually deflating those footballs. >> is an appeal possible trace, here? >> well the nfl players' association has already attacked the credibil
because belichick, i don't know. the commissioner says brady new about the phone.allagher has more. he knew they wanted the phone, his assistant destroyed the phone that sounds like enough. >> roger goodell served as the sole arbitrator for the hearing in june. the independent investigator who initially found that tom brady likely knew the footballs were being deflated. brady's lawyers says wells did not offer proof that brady had any knowledge of the air being let out of the balls. now...
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bill belichick came up while he was coaching at oregon two or three times to pick his brain. >> right. the one word play calls and the no huddle and the speed game. >> how does this happen to him, he's had such a mediocre rise in the business. two years ago he was making $60,000 -- >> it's like that old cliche it takes 20 years. he turned down an offer from coughlin to go to new york giants and coach there because he would have just been one of those video study guys not coaching players. so he stayed as an assistant. he was never even a head coach at any level until he went out to oregon. but he had been an assistant for 20 years, working out everything getting all these theories down then he's ready, boom. >> the guy is all about football. i've gone down -- i've met him in social settings when the eagles have had alumni situations -- things events. they got one this tuesday for us. i'll be there and probably spend some time with him there. but he never wants to talk about anything other than football. i don't think he knows, you know, what's going on politically or anything else tha
bill belichick came up while he was coaching at oregon two or three times to pick his brain. >> right. the one word play calls and the no huddle and the speed game. >> how does this happen to him, he's had such a mediocre rise in the business. two years ago he was making $60,000 -- >> it's like that old cliche it takes 20 years. he turned down an offer from coughlin to go to new york giants and coach there because he would have just been one of those video study guys not...
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. >> patriots head coach bill belichick wouldn't bite on the brady controversy. >> it's already beenressed. >> it's already been addressed. >> it's already been addressed. >> but the "new york post" sums it up with one word, cover-up, with a recent pick of brady's wife wearing a burka. >> steve, thanks for joining us. what do you think. to me, it's like johnny most in the old days. they always say the home team is right. sorry, it doesn't surprise me the hub of the universe still thinks it's the hub of the universe and can do no wrong. your thoughts? >> to bring a political analogy into this too, i'm thinking today of rosemary woods, those 18 minutes of dead space on the watergate tapes and she claimed it was an accident. i think that's how the rest of the country looks at this claim from tom brady. that it just so happens i switched out my cell phone and destroyed the old one on the day that i was going to meet with the nfl investigator looking into deflategate. from the standpoint of the court of public opinion out of new england, tom brady was convicted a long time ago. nothing co
. >> patriots head coach bill belichick wouldn't bite on the brady controversy. >> it's already beenressed. >> it's already been addressed. >> it's already been addressed. >> but the "new york post" sums it up with one word, cover-up, with a recent pick of brady's wife wearing a burka. >> steve, thanks for joining us. what do you think. to me, it's like johnny most in the old days. they always say the home team is right. sorry, it doesn't surprise...
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jonathan: you know bill belichick was the most hated coach and he wins all the time. kimberly: now he is adored. jonathan: anybody talking about tom brady after deflategate? he is posting record sales numbers. jerseys, hats posters, anything with brady's name on it flying off the shelves. people are buying more brady gear than any other player in the nfl. remember what i said about winning? even the deflategate ball itself sold last month for $44,000. it's a regular football with a couple of pounds out of it. really? coming up at "abc7 news at 4:00" -- forget the middle of the night trip wal-marts and why they are closing some 24-hour supercenters. rebecca: i'm rebecca cooper. he is loud outspoken, he likes attention, he has crazy hair and now he has been fired for racist comments. we will tell you who is in kimberly: you hear when hulk hogan came to the newsroom a month ago. jonathan: big fellow. kimberly: but he is experiencing trouble off the mat. jonathan: a smidge. world wrestling entertain cut ties with hogan over the use of a racial slur on a sex tape. there is
jonathan: you know bill belichick was the most hated coach and he wins all the time. kimberly: now he is adored. jonathan: anybody talking about tom brady after deflategate? he is posting record sales numbers. jerseys, hats posters, anything with brady's name on it flying off the shelves. people are buying more brady gear than any other player in the nfl. remember what i said about winning? even the deflategate ball itself sold last month for $44,000. it's a regular football with a couple of...
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i think jimmy garoppolo will go out and be the quarterback and this is a chance for bill belichick toeat a football coach he is. in tom's case he'll come back and be very upset and have a lot to prove but remember the new england patriots are going to be without more than tom brady. the division has gotten better. everyone's sort of come up to them. it will be interesting to see how the first four weeks play out and the remaining 12 after that. >> what about morale? >> i think everybody expected this. i don't think anybody sat back and said the commissioner -- they were expecting two games, maybe a reduction in the penalty. i don't think they felt like it was going go away completely. now the reality is they'll go forward wchl this situation the wait is i don't know if it's in tom's best interest to fight it. it's almost like mr. kraft. i think in tom's case i don't know -- i don't think it would get overturned anyway. >> as i recall bob kraft said pay the penalty, like a million bucks, which is like chump change to him. this is tom brady's career and reputation everything he's worked
i think jimmy garoppolo will go out and be the quarterback and this is a chance for bill belichick toeat a football coach he is. in tom's case he'll come back and be very upset and have a lot to prove but remember the new england patriots are going to be without more than tom brady. the division has gotten better. everyone's sort of come up to them. it will be interesting to see how the first four weeks play out and the remaining 12 after that. >> what about morale? >> i think...
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and as you might expect, head coach bill belichick had nothing to add. >> there's something flawed aboutization that you keep ending up in these cheating controversies? >> that's already been addressed. >> can you elaborate a little? >> no. >> why not? >> because it's already been addressed. >> people have a lot of questions, you know, public, fans. >> you heard what robert just said. it's already been addressed. you have to go back to look at your notes. it's already been addressed. >> thank you for that insight. >>> tiger woods struggles have been addressed plenty over the last year. he is going to tee up this week at the quicken loans national. it's his own tournament but while his game is a work in progress, tiger has been winning in another sport. >> tiger on the range you say you will you do nowadays is play soccer with the kids. can they beat their dad? >> never will beat me never. no. but they will wear me out. >> good night, that is a huge fish! >> and there it is. that is huge. they say everything is bigger in texas! and they weren't lying! >> what is that? >> this is oakland's
and as you might expect, head coach bill belichick had nothing to add. >> there's something flawed aboutization that you keep ending up in these cheating controversies? >> that's already been addressed. >> can you elaborate a little? >> no. >> why not? >> because it's already been addressed. >> people have a lot of questions, you know, public, fans. >> you heard what robert just said. it's already been addressed. you have to go back to look at...
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. >> patriots's owner robert craft and bill belichick held a press conference later today.s, evidence and laws of science that underscore this entire situation, it is completely incomprehensible to me that the league continues to take steps to disparage one of its all time great players. >> right now we're in a long step by step process as we head into the beginning of the 2015 season. so we're just going to take it one day at a time: >> tom brady responded to the decision. saying i'm i did nothing wrong in the patriots's organization did either. here with reaction former nfl quarterback joe theseman and bill tillman. i thought they'd hit a compromise, two game suspension done. the breaking of the phone seems to be the tipping point. bad move by brady? -- there being this outcome. it had this possibility. it was not and will not be until tom brady apologized for what he did. ultimately that's what separated sh the situation. the nfl was not in a situation to what do anything about this. i said at the time on your show it would be upheld. i think a roger goodell did the righ
. >> patriots's owner robert craft and bill belichick held a press conference later today.s, evidence and laws of science that underscore this entire situation, it is completely incomprehensible to me that the league continues to take steps to disparage one of its all time great players. >> right now we're in a long step by step process as we head into the beginning of the 2015 season. so we're just going to take it one day at a time: >> tom brady responded to the decision....
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frank loves the patriots, loves belichick and he's a giant but he loves -- and he didn't see why it was such -- i said frank, it's against the nfl rules. they're trying to uphold the integrity of the game. you start chipping away at something all of a sudden you have a rugby game instead of the football game. it's a different thing. >> well, i think they're saying he got a four-game suspension, some guys who are arrested for domestic violence get the same penalty. >> he's also the biggest face in football today and he's a role model for so many quds. that was the thing -- i don't like people -- to be disappointed to people. none of us are perfect. but it's a long way down for being the most admired adored -- it's like a bill cosby thing in the comedy world. to go from being beloved to belittled because it's something that is self- -- you brought it on yourself. what's that called? self-inflicted. >> but[ levels of infractions. >> what do you think would have been fair? >> probably a couple games for sure. >> but we don't know the details yet, either hoda, that roger knows. >> right. but
frank loves the patriots, loves belichick and he's a giant but he loves -- and he didn't see why it was such -- i said frank, it's against the nfl rules. they're trying to uphold the integrity of the game. you start chipping away at something all of a sudden you have a rugby game instead of the football game. it's a different thing. >> well, i think they're saying he got a four-game suspension, some guys who are arrested for domestic violence get the same penalty. >> he's also the...
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head coach bill belichick is refusing to say anything. but brady himself is speaking out. he posted on facebook that he did nothing wrong and no one in the patriots' organization did either. >> deflategate took a stunning turn yesterday when nfl commissioner roger goodell accused brady of actively trying to hide evidence of his participation in a scheme to alter the inflation levels of football. goodell says brady had his assistant destroy his cell phone and sim card. but brady addresses that accusation directly saying this in his facebook post -- most importantly, i have never written, texted, e-mailed to anybody at any time anything related to football air pressure before this issue was raised at the afc championship game in january. to suggest that i destroyed a phone and to avoid giving the nfl information it requested is completely wrong. let's bring in cnn sports anchor, rachel nichols. i feel again like we need a flowchart to understand exactly how we got to where we are. but it is amazing that when bob kraft came out slammed the league and saying he unequivocally s
head coach bill belichick is refusing to say anything. but brady himself is speaking out. he posted on facebook that he did nothing wrong and no one in the patriots' organization did either. >> deflategate took a stunning turn yesterday when nfl commissioner roger goodell accused brady of actively trying to hide evidence of his participation in a scheme to alter the inflation levels of football. goodell says brady had his assistant destroy his cell phone and sim card. but brady addresses...
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we don't have to hear from bill belichick on physics and tom brady's integrity has been affected. by destroying the cell phone he's admitted the findings are incorrect. >> rose: let me make sure we understand. by acknowledging he destroyed the cell phone he acknowledged the commission's findings are correct? >> that's the way commission will see it? you can't assume that's true, although if you looked at it in the terms of the most likely scenario, that would be the argument the commission would make. >> and then the martha stewart scenario, it's often not the crime but the coverup. >> rose: or the richard nixon -- (laughter) >> and now, of course, it's going to end up in court so now the season we're going to hear it through most of the season unless there's a stay and it's not suspended. >> rose: so what are the ramifications of tom brady? >> well, his legacy is at issue. i don't know whether sports writers will hold it against him when the hall of fame vote comes up. he's already wealthy and has four super bowl rings so maybe it won't mean much in the end. >> rose: he seems lik
we don't have to hear from bill belichick on physics and tom brady's integrity has been affected. by destroying the cell phone he's admitted the findings are incorrect. >> rose: let me make sure we understand. by acknowledging he destroyed the cell phone he acknowledged the commission's findings are correct? >> that's the way commission will see it? you can't assume that's true, although if you looked at it in the terms of the most likely scenario, that would be the argument the...