yeah, ben franklin is the historical figure we most need back today. he's the person who helped try to unite. the colonies to dissipate the passions and the hatreds and the ideologies. he was a person who most connected science to statecraft believed as that thing as eclipse showed about the importance of saying let's not jump to conclusions. let's have the experiments be made whether it was about lightning or whether it was about taxation or he tied us together with the postal system. so he did so much but the main thing is the arc of his moral life. i think represents the ark of our nation's moral life a quest for self-improvement, but deep flaws that needed to be faced later in his life so that he could help rectify them the most obvious was that he enslaved two people when he owned his print shop in philadelphia and then he becomes appalled at that concept and you talked about public education both in your book and on the panel earlier. he starts two things. he educate the academy for the education of youth in philadelphia, which becomes pan and th

i love ben franklin but ben franklin is tactical and gets it but sometimes you know deep philosophers in madison and jefferson are amongst them and yet the deeper philosopher whose reading john locke and writing all these treatises, they still can't have the common sense of an average printer and shopkeeper likeben franklin on market street . as a deeply reflective person who had all the great philosophers, jefferson should have gotten it a little bit better . >> so interesting that and i a think your narrating through american history metaphorically through franklin and really when people ask the question today why are these guys relevant i think it's a powerful articulation of why we need history, all of our history o and why understanding these men is so important to understanding today . i think walter among the things you've been able to do and throughout your career is look back and look forward. like franklin to john. >> that was a had snacker. >> walter, why did you? >> if you want to know what ben franklin really was you say i was an inventor. lightning rods to clean burning

chris: now over to axios energy reporter ben geman. ben: i'm ben geman, energy reporter for axios. our final guest, matt, is joining us from dallas, texas. hey, matt, how are you. matt: hey. ben: thanks for being with us today. as the white house came out with this historically, i think it is safe to say, ambitious climate agenda, can you give us the pulse of where they are, what they have, and what they have not accomplished? matt: sure. i think it is a good time, the second earth day of the administration, and it is also a year on from the president's announcement of the new 2030 target, so it is a good time to take stock. i think the administration went really fast out of the gate. last year, the president did so many things on day one, really making clear the climate was going to be a priority for his administration, the way it had been a priority for the campaign. they built all of these key top spots for the administration with real climate champions. you had the first 100-day race to the summit that president biden held, where he announced the contribution, the target of cut

ben: and you saw for yourself some of that suffering today.t to some towns north of here where there are alleged war crimes. you looked like you were pretty shocked. >> the international criminal court is investigating. and i fully support the authority of the international criminal court and i crossed them -- and i trust them. i appealed to theussian federation to cooperate with the international criminal court. it is absolutely essential ever there is a violation of international law, violation of human rights law, a war crime, it is absolutely essential that the truce is completely clarified, and that those responsible will be punished, that accountability works. ben: wt were your impressions when he went around those towns today, where there has been so much killing of innocent civilians? >> when i was there, when we feel the emotion of being in a place where people have suffered so much, i felt as if i was imagining my family there, and how terrible it would be. i think when one works like i do in international organizations, sometimes, w

leonardo da vinci and ben franklin. and that is what i wanted to do biographies of both.ecause what they see is a connection between the arts and the humanities he said at the end of your talk. steve jobs once said you go right to your story about poetry that basically the reason bill gates created the zune which was the most god-awful product ever to be done and microsoft word is almost unusable was because he studied only coding and science and computer science where he studied calligraphy, dance, poetry and art when he went to college. and so that notion steve did whenever he did a product lots he showed the last slide was the intersection of arts in technology. that is what we do but that is what you are saying to is the key to creativity. quick speaking of creativity during franklin's time was the cradle of creativity in this country. and why was that? >> that is deeply important to understand why some places and some times become cradles of creativity. if we go through history you can start in 1570, with florence becomes the hub of the renaissance. you go to 1778 wh

at ben roy's.y fear is that ben roy's took civil rights money and invested it in a period piece designed to evoke nostalgia for racially promiscuous front stoop saturday nights that never happened. here it's important to remember that the very first businesses in the delta to be boycotted during the civil rights movement where white owned service stations. as early as 1951, before lunch counters, bus stations or swimming pools became a thing, gas stations were the first lightning rods of black inequality and it is difficult for me to imagine that front porch jukebox could overcome the racial charge attached to them. so don't be fooled by the nostalgia of ben roy's. i don't know if it ever actually attracted integrated socialize or, but i do know that the jim quote signage that once marked the bathrooms was never restored. in all honesty, that was probably a wise choice, but without these signs, the service station contains not a single gesture to emmett till, racial violence, or the civil rights mo

with ben roy's service station one more slide here on ben roy's. this is a tweet. from the journalist jehan jones i don't know if you know jahan jones in 2019 when he posted this tweet, he covered the race beat for the huffington post. he now works. for the readout blog on msnbc. here's what you need to know about jahan. he's really smart and his specialty is black history. in 2019 jahan and i traveled to mississippi together. he got there a day before i did. on that day. he visited brian's grocery and he posted this tweet look at it. he says powerful first day in mississippi here is brian's grocery. and then he posted a picture of the wrong building. he showed up. and he saw one building in ruin and one building beautifully restored. any thought well if this is ground zero the movement, obviously it must be the restored building, but he was wrong. now to his credit this sign that you see on the left hand side of this tweet that tells the story of bryant's grocery. the sign is 33 and a half feet from each building like it is precisely. in the middle, and you know,

ben: it could. how to insulate these forces and the calm is what if it hikes too much and the economy slows too much from the forces you mentioned and you have a big problem. jack: that is often the case. it leads to a recession. let me pivot to big tech. there's an outsized role in the global economy in the us market. one stock in particular, apple, is really dominant. apple has held up well recently and that pushed the market higher. >> the stock market's largest stock had a winning streak that ended wednesday. a stock like apple going up that much, it helps the markets make everything else looks better. jack: the inflation question, carleton, no bigger reminder of inflation than the prices at the pump. the president tried to take a step to push those prices down this past week. carleton: we have president biden allowing the release of 1 million barrels of oil from the special return -- reserves for period of 6 months, expecting to lower gas prices by $0.05 to $0.35 a gallon but still looking at h

so don't be fooled by the nostalgia of ben roy's. i don't know if it actually attracted integrated socializers, but i do know the jim crow signage that once marked the bathrooms was never restored. in all honesty, that was probably a wise choice, but without the signs the service station never retains the emmett till. it's a beautiful building, but its beauty was funded by unacknowledged racial violence. my next sentence is one that i have had editors cut, but i don't see my editors here tonight so you get it. i can't even look at ben roy's without fearing that it might not be the perfect model of what red cap trump supporters might see when they look backwards to a once great america. they see gas stations and more broadly an entire american infrastructure made possible by economy's of race but unmarked by the legacies of violence because leaving the violence unmarked like ben roy's leaves it unmarked is the only possible way to hold up mid century america as a bastion of greatness. and it was paid for literally by till's murder, bu

that's why the renaissance happens there but then when ben franklin runs away from boston with all due respect to boston was a very puritan culture and if you deviated in any way like the wrong side you had to leave and go found rhode island or something so he runs away and comes to a philadelphia with the at this couples and anglicans and that is the cities name that diversity that allows birth of america. >> he did not have amenities of patrons quick. >> not exactly so what he does is create a community of civic leaders because it wasn't for the wealthiest but for the middle class the shopkeepers on market street and the leather aprons and then they were there. and that club decided to figure out how to do civic improvements and every month they come up with a free library and the militia, the academy. and that was a secret you can see it inro great cities where is not just a patron handing down things but the civic life. >> it'sti interesting when contrasted with so many of the other founding fathers who were elite. s >> if you want to rag on jefferson's they both start academies in

ben stokes is the obvious _ england do for this?land do for this? ben stokes is the obvious choice, he _ england do for this? ben stokes is the obvious choice, he would - england do for this? ben stokes is the obvious choice, he would be . england do for this? ben stokes is i the obvious choice, he would be the person england would look towards in the first thing i would do is give him a call, go and see him, have a cup of coffee and ask him, where are you mentally and physically, are you ready to take this captaincy? if you can, we want to give it to you. they will also look at stuart broad or jimmy anderson as well, both of them are great paired together, stuart broad has obviously captained the team before, jimmy anderson ever has done and he will be someone who england may look as well on a short—term basis. it's certainly the day for long reigns ending — in football, after almost a decade in charge, sean dyche has been sacked by burnley. the longest—serving manager in the premier league lost his job with his side four points ad

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ben wallace. glen grant.ces must be pushed out of the whole of ukraine. including presumably she means crimea. were you surprised by that particular phrase? you surprised by that particular hrase? ., ., ., ,, , , ., phrase? not at all. surprised that actually most _ phrase? not at all. surprised that actually most of _ phrase? not at all. surprised that actually most of the _ phrase? not at all. surprised that actually most of the western i phrase? not at all. surprised that i actually most of the western leaders still have not grasped how serious this is. this is notjust about ukraine, this is about the whole of the west. we simply can't afford to lose this. if you lose for ukraine, there will be someone —— somewhere else afterwards. 0ne shouldn't be worried about this. do else afterwards. one shouldn't be worried about this.— worried about this. do you think many western _ worried about this. do you think many western leaders - worried about this. do you think many western leaders haven't l worried about th

and ben stiller. this is the "daily show" with trevor noah. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] traoufplt hey, what's going on everybody. welcome to the daily show, i'm trevor noah, and you may have noticed that we are back in our studio with a live audience. back with a live audience. thank you, thank you. take a seat. wow. take a seat. we're back, sit down, sit down. thank you so much. wow. this is fun. i have missed you guys. i have missed you. [cheers and applause] >> trevor: you know. i'm so sorry we were separated for two years. in hindsight, i shouldn't have left that tupperware open in wuhan. my bad. the important part is, we're all here together again, and the reunion sex is gonna be amazing. it's been awhile. it's comedy. don't worry. no sex, nothing has changed. we've got a great show tonight. ben stiller is here to talk about his -- and we are celebrating ketanji brown jackson. but first let's jump to the read headlines. let's kick things off in washington tv. the most famous statue of a guy watching tv. also it's the home

ben stokes. he was sports personality of the year. too, too much? well, here's a man who led england in 32 test matches. originally i would have said that ben is so important to the team just as a figure, as a presence in that dressing room. i think now there are two things. one, he is more mature, and i know he's had problems in the last couple of years and hopefully, we all hope he's through those completely. he's done thejob in bits and pieces. he's done it temporarily before. he's captained the one—day side. and he's looked good doing it. so i think and hope he's ready for it. each cricket generation produces a charismatic all—rounder. ian botham was captain briefly — didn't work. the same goes for andrew flintoff. free spirits can be restrained by responsibility. england need ben stokes at his very best. he's got the respect of the dressing room. he has been a leader in that for the last however long he's been in it, almost coming in as a young man he was someone that people follow. he's not one of these great players who just go

thank you very much, ben, ben brown there.has found the norfolk and suffolk nhs foundation trust to be inadequate, making it england's worst—performing mental health trust. in a damning report, the care quality commission said there were more than 100 unexpected deaths which were potentially avoidable during a two—year period at the trust. 0ur health correspondent sophie hutchinson has been talking to the families of some of those who've been failed. abigail henry loves performing — in the privacy of her own bedroom. but she struggles with her mental health and has attempted suicide many times. it's got to be about 15 times that her life has seriously been in danger. her mum says things got worse when the mental health trust stopped the support she was getting in the community. then, last year, abigail was rushed to hospital after an overdose, but rather than being treated in a psychiatric unit she ended up being sedated in intensive care. there wasn't any beds available locally, and so they kept her under sedation for six day

and that's what ben stokes will do. and that's what ben stokes will do.me champion ronnie o'sullivan taking on four—time winner john higgins in the evening session. despite trailing 3—1 at the mid session interval the rocket turned it around after the break finishing with a century break for the packed crucible crowd, and the players will now resume tomorrow afternoon all level at four frames each. earlier, the 2019 championjudd trump made a fantastic start against the three time winner mark williams — and leads 7 frames to 1 after the first session. they'll return tomorrow morning with seventeen frames the target. huddersfield giants bounced back from successive super league defeats to win14—12 away to wakefield trinity. it took until late in the game but theo fages kicked through for ricky leutele to pounce on it and hand ian watson's side victory which lifts them up to fourth. for more on that and everything else she could head to the bbc sport website. and that's all the sport for now. hello. much of the uk's been stuck under cloud today, and especial

tonight -- ben stiller. star of "starstruck" actress and comedian rose matafeo.l-new "closer look. featuring the 8g band with brooke colucci ♪ [ cheers and applause and now seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is late night we hope you are all doing well tonight. and now we are going to get to the news president biden spoke yesterday with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky for nearly an hour zelensky secured $500 million in aid and biden somehow ended up with a reverse mortgage. [ laughter ] intelligence officials reportedly believe that russian president vladimir putin has only recently learned how poorly the invasion of ukraine has been going and is angry with his military advisers. and you can tell he's upset because now the table is even longer [ laughter ] house minority leader kevin mccarthy said yesterday that republican congressman madison cawthorn admitted that claims that his fellow lawmakers had done cocaine and invited him to orgies were exaggerated and added that cawthorn told him he, "doesn't know what cocaine is. guys [ lau

it's a winning mentality that ben stokes _ root.ntality that ben stokes has, _ root. it's a winning mentality that ben stokes has, he _ root. it's a winning mentality that ben stokes has, he has _ root. it's a winning mentality that ben stokes has, he has a - root. it's a winning mentality that ben stokes has, he has a belief i root. it's a winning mentality that | ben stokes has, he has a belief you can win from any position, that was epitomised in the way he pulled back that incredible headingley ashes test match if 2019. now in terms of the way stokes will captain, i think we have had a collapse of his acumen, even times where he has stood in forjoe root, taking charge on the test field, that he does have a tremendous cricket brain, and i think maybe we willjust see him more adventurous captaincy on the field, but he has that talismanic aura about him in terms of leadership, by dint of the way he plays, and everything he has achieved. think he will be a good people person, a good manager manager which is another skill, because of

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you always think of ben stiller the comedian. >> right.e as moody. you know it's been fun to direct and not act. i love, i have always wanted to direct since i was a kid. like i was ten years old. i have done it over the years and act also. this has been fun the last now years. i loved this piece of material. the script that dan erickson wrote. he had nothing produced up until this point. >> trevor: i find that hard to believe. >> s he's a brilliant writer working to get his work seen. someone in the company saw it i read it, it was amazing. that was five years ago. it took a little while. it has been fun. we made it totally in a bubble in the pandemic. we were about to shoot six weeks, we were six weeks from shooting when the pandemic hit. we stopped for a sefpblgtd it has been so, now in the world, to have people interact with it, it's satisfying. it felt like we were doing it for ourselves. >> trevor: i felt everything was like that during the pandemic. you felt it was just you. you wake up and do your thing and do it again. you're in a

ben stokes has been named as the new captain of the england men's cricket team.nder said it was an honour to be given the chance to lead the team. so, can he maintain his often explosive talents with the pressures of being a captain? here's our sports editor dan roan. he is the talismanic figure that england cricket has come to rely on, but as well as being expected to star with both bat and ball ben stokes has now been tasked with leading the ailing test team's revival. the man who appointed him telling me today why the all—rounder was the obvious choice as captain. i know there's a lot being said about, well, he's the only one. if you had lots and lots of leaders in that dressing room, ben stokes would still be the best person to do it because he's got a great cricket brain, in my opinion. he's got the respect of the dressing room. he has been a leader in that for the last however long he's been in it. stokes, who will always be remembered for heroic innings in both the ashes and the world cup final of 2019, said he was honoured to succeed his friend joe root.

isa guha on ben stokes.orting their family. they are urgently seeking further information. we will bring you more, of course, as soon as we get it on that. the chief executive of sainsbury�*s says he expects profits to be lower this year, as the company tries to stay competitive on price and support customers through the cost of living crisis. despite that, the uk's second biggest supermarket reported good figures this morning — with £85a million in pre—tax profit in the year to march 5th, compared with a loss of £16a million the previous 12 months. simon roberts was speaking to our business correspondent emma simpson. well, everyone, of course, is feeling real pressure in their household finances. we are very close to what our customers are seeing, what they're feeling, and ourjob is to keep our prices as competitive as they can possibly be. customers are watching every penny and every pound right now, and that's why we're really focused on making sure the products that customers are buying week in, week ou

ben wedeman, be safe. you've been doing such a terrific job putting yourself in the middle of the danger. we want you to be safe and we appreciate your reporting. ben wedeman reporting from kramatorsk in ukraine this morning, 5:08 in the morning there. i want to turn to simon schuster in kyiv tonight. thank you for joining us. we appreciate that. you're in touch with one of the ukrainian soldiers fighting back the russians at that massive iron and steel plant in mariupol. it is a foursquare-mile area. what's the soldier telling you and how long can they hold out do you think? >> the soldier is telling me -- we've been texting back and forth for a week now. sometimes he gets a signal down there, so he tends to respond at night. his main message is they're still down there. they're still holding out. and they feel that their mission has already been accomplished because they've drawn so much russian fire power on themselves that it's given other cities in ukraine a chance to prepare, to survive. it's given u

ben. yeah, you're here not in your head because this is, you are the and the 0 that was my one is is your thesis. so defendant go ahead. right. i was gonna say that was my point. i never said that they would say sorry, right. i, i heard that were being used rather fair enough. there never say, sorry. what they have to say is we one and they also have to lift those sanctions that some point because of the costs associated. we talk a lot about gas in the cost of gasoline, but there's so much more the, the biggest cost is going to be passed on to the american consumer. in the next couple of months is going to be the cost of fertilizer. the most of the urea fertilizer that comes from russia that was supposed to go to american farmers is not reaching them. that means the cost of fertilizer, which has to happen $2.00 to $3.00 times a year on, on commercial farms has tripled, quadrupled and price. that cost is being passed on to restaurants as being passed on to consumers in a couple of months wh

. >> whatever you call it, it has apparently been building since ben weiderman filed that report with widespread shelling across the area according to ukrainian military officials and from the liberated suburbs of kyiv, just staggering images. this was an apartment complex in bordyanka, town subject first to russian bombardment, then occupation, then brutality as russian troops retreated . not far from there in bucha, international criminal courts chief prosecutor surveyed the destruction and summed it up this way -- ukraine, he said, is a crime scene. we have to pierce the fog of war to get to the truth. doing that for us tonight, cnn's chief international correspondent clarissa ward just back from the front lines as cnn's ben wiederman as well, cnn's kaitlan collins at the white house and matthew chance with more on the sinking of the moscova. first, this from clarissa ward. >> reporter: the town of abdivka is no stranger to war. eight years, this has been the frontline of ukraine's battle with russian-backed separatists. people here are used to shelling. they have have never experi

ben: the fed. investors are spooked about rising interest rates and how fast the fed will have to go. everyone knows we will gotta half a point rate hike. it could be more, quantitative typing as well. that will tell us a lot whether the market can find bottom. jack: been referred to lousy tech earnings, what is the headline? carleton: we are definitely past the covid narrative, what worked for tech companies is no longer the case. amazon at a quarterly loss. a lot of that had to do with the stake in a lecture call vehiclemaker ivien but rapid expansion during the covid decline, looking past that. on the flipside we got good news from apple on the court, beat earnings, the iphone, ipad, all of that, it expect in the next quarter to be heard by supply chain issues and last sales in china due to covid lockdowns to the tune of $8 billion. jack: bike opportunities, google was down. is that a place to go? carleton: businesses are doing well. am i an investor? management told you the next few months will

praying, as hell rains down. >> ben wedeman joins us. also in the east of ukraine, clarissa ward in dnipro, and at the white house, kaitlan collins. ben, talk a little more about what it was like in that shelter. i mean, is there any hope of them leaving anytime soon? >> that's a good question. you know, it was so dangerous in that area that as i said in that report, it's becoming increasingly difficult to deliver food. in fact, we brought them a few bags of food and some water. and they're running low. and going into that shelter, i mean, it's not a shelter. it's a basement of this theater. it was dank and dirty and the people were unwashed. and i can tell you, some of them looked like they were literally losing their minds. one of the women i spoke to was partially deaf. and she had just sort of a tic, and she said every time i hear -- i can't hear the bomb, i feel the bombs above, and we were there only 36 minutes. i timed it. and in that time, about eight bombs fell very nearby. one of our people was in the car outside. the car shook

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our political correspondent ben wright is here. high, ben wright is here. men.ven this interview high, men. he hasjust given this interview and confirmed for the first time that he will resign. what is that he say? fix, first time that he will resign. what is that he say?— first time that he will resign. what is that he say? a dramatic change of heart from yesterday _ is that he say? a dramatic change of heart from yesterday afternoon - is that he say? a dramatic change of| heart from yesterday afternoon when heart from yesterday afternoon when he emerged as the person who had been watching this pornography and he has hope that the investigation that would have started might exonerate him and salvage a career that was obviously in deep trouble, but since then, he has reflected and realised that it cannot possibly carry on. he says in the interview that he could see the damage he had caused, clearly after conversations with his family and i imagine with his constituency party and with his bossesin his constituency party and with his bosses in westminster, he reali

ben domenech of the editor of the transom.com and host of the ben dom 9/11.. it's been a while since we have been in the studio. we are getting the kinks out. ben, let me talk to you about this interview and what you took away from it. >> well, there were a couple of things. one, it really stood out to me the question that you asked pointedly about the china relationship here and zelenskyy lacking really an answer other than to say that the united states needed to be part of that confirmation being, enabling that conversation to happen. they are the elephant in the room. we saw lavrov go and meet with his counterpart in china this week, along with his counter part in india. the truth is that russia, it would not be doing what they were doing without that backing and permission coming from their biggest factors in china. zelenskyy didn't really have an answer for that he also though was pressing the case as he has been doing repeatedly for heavier weaponry. they want to add steel to the pines of the porcupine here. they know that is something that they need in

ben: president putin is saying to the west, back off.have sent time -- said time and again that nato is fighting a proxy war in ukraine, that is the accusation. they warn nothing is off the table in terms of military retaliation and not in the wind the west could -- and that in the end the west could provoke a third world war. that is the rhetoric. the british foreign secretary said she thinks the ukrainians should push back against the russians in all of ukraine, in other words regain the territory they lost in the east, in the don bus -- donbass, and regain crimea. the west is arming ukraine, flooding this country with weapons, and increasingly so. heavy weapons now being sent by germany. and all that money that joe biden is planning to send here, $33 billion, i talked to a few ukrainian politicians here today, they are immensely grateful for the money and weapons. host: and the fighting in the donbass region, how is that going? what are you hearing from e ukrainians? ben: we know the russians withdrew from areas around kyiv, the capit

do you think bens right, ramsey go ahead? now, i think is lilian just so? yeah, but i think these are changing time. so i think even for the americans themselves, this is an uncharted territory because this, remember american, the u. s. either instigates all i directly or indirectly conflicts. so the always prepare for the narrative that goes with these concepts, legal, this in academia, super structured, meaning that they create the language, the create, the move, the thinking to bring the coffee has to articulate american agenda and the whole world has response that respond to that but this is different because because for the 1st time it was another country that was actually taking action and not just that coming with them on superstructures. coming with the ordinance in the meeting between lab row and why he that was a very important meeting, much 30th i, you know, based simple discourse analysis of the kind of terminology used by these 2 leaders . the folk of a multi polar world do crack world a world of corporation striving piece, holding the security

ben: thank you for having me.put it in perspective, let's say shanghai does about 600,000 cars per year, they are shut down for three weeks, rounded up to 50,000 cars, the streets predicting $1.4 billion -- 1.4 billion deliveries this year so i do not want to say it is a drop in the bucket but i have seen competitors out there saying slashing numbers. two different places are coming online. q2 numbers should go down a bit going into it but i do not think in the grand a things, it will be that big of a deal. kriti: i'm so glad you mentioned the austin factory coming online because i thing one of the takeaways when it comes to the shanghai factory is simply they both better margins, better supply chains, they also have -- it is more localized and easier to get equipment i believe or ed ludlow told me earlier one of the major benefits of getting materials in shanghai is the factory to get them is a few miles away from the tesla factory. talk to us about margins and impact in terms of bringing that supply in the austi

but i do think it's really important what ben just said. the idea of punishing because there is this sense from several people, world leaders who have spoken to putin, you know, in the early days of the war. particularly, the finnish president told me he felt there was -- and these were his words, a hatred growing inside putin for ukraine and for everything they stand for and everything that they have resisted. and an historian said even putin denying the legitimacy, the existence of ukraine as an independent nation and people could be adjudicated a genocidal thought, a genocidal ideology. anderson. >> and in terms of kharkiv, what have you been seeing there? >> yeah. well, yeah. this is the second city of -- of ukraine that russians tried to take in a two-pronged attack in the early days of the war. they were pushed back by the ukrainians but there has been constant -- ask we have heard it since we have been here -- artillery. and just like ben said they killed several people in mykolaiv. just yesterday -- just yesterday after we got here,