in november of two thousand and seven where benazir bhutto stated categorically that omar shaikh had murdered her. bin ladin david frost made no comment whatsoever he let it go completely unquestioned despite the fact that this was you know breaking news or should have been breaking news but benazir bhutto of course unfortunately paid a tragic price for revealing that little gem of information because five weeks after that interview with david frost she herself was assassinated three you're saying that the this supposed this that's a nation of a sovereign laws and was in in an attempt to cover up the allegation that wasn't born in the united states it's certainly having that effect doesn't it and of course now what's happening is that the story is unraveling it's unraveling rapidly . the the u.s. administration is finding it extremely difficult to stay with a single script because more and more people are starting to spot holes in the script and of course as they are some questions and it's like any lie you know once people are exposed as a lying and you probe that lie then they

unquestioned despite the fact that this was breaking news or should have been breaking news for benazir bhutto of course unfortunately paid a tragic price for revealing that little gem of information because five weeks after that interview with david frost she herself was assassinated you were saying that the supposed this as a nation of a sovereign largent was in in an attempt to cover up the allegation that it wasn't born in the united states it's certainly having that effect doesn't it and of course now what's happening is that the story is unraveling it's an. rapidly. the the us administration is finding extremely difficult to stay with a single script because more and more people are starting to spot holes in the script and of course as they ask more questions and it's like any lie you know once people are exposed as lying and you probe that lie then they have to come up with more lies to cover the gaps in the original lie i mean we saw this piece of footage that was released that was allegedly a psalm of enlarging watching t.v. in his luxury compound and i mean close analysis of that pho

those of benazir bhutto and those who killed -- look, thousands of pakistanis have been killed, more mac -- pakistanis have been killed by terrorists. yet there are still people in pack -- pakistan -- as i said, the americans certainly did not respect our sovereignty by not informing us beforehand, but at the same time pakistanis also need to worry about the fact that why is osama bin laden not a citizen of pakistan ting refuge in our country. i was crucified for the policy -- i jokingly asked some friend there's bin laden living in pakistan. we he to do a lot of hard thinking and as pakistanis we are doing it. >> charlie: is this an appropriate time for the united states to raise the issue about the pakistani military not prepared to go after the haqqani network. >> this is the time to discuss -- >> charlie: this is a issue for them because they just poor across border. >> i understand that there have been conversations since this incident with general -- on the telephone. i understa that pakistan's intelligence service and the american are already planning to exchange notes and und

laden because al qaeda was likely behind the assassination of his wife, former prime minister benazir bhutto. asked if the meeting really was as tense as it looked, secretary clinton said no. >> we were just waiting for the press to leave so we could actually... (laughter). begin our meeting. that was the only tension. >> reporter: in a positive sign, pakistan today allowed the c.i.a. to search bin laden's compound. a u.s. official says they did find some information but it's too early to tell its value. chip reid, cbs news, warsaw. >> smith: in egypt, a familiar sight today. 3.5 months after forcing president mubarak out of office, tens of thousands of protesters filled cairo's tahrir square. the organizers called it a second revolution. they say change isn't coming fast enough and demanded mubarak be put on trial immediately for allegedly ordering police to shoot antigovernment protesters. a judge in belgrade today determined that ratko mladic is fit to be extradited to face a war crimes tribunal in the hague for the massacre of thousands in bosnia. his lawyer says mladic is too sick to tr

presidents zardari and musharraf of pakistan former prime minister of pakistan the late benazir bhutto all said in interviews that bin laden may have died of kidney failure as early as two thousand and one so. these these statements stand on their own merit and we even had general franks tommy franks the head of the central command say and look i don't know whether he's dead or alive we don't have any intelligence that says one way or the other so even general franks was unwilling to actually say say the bin laden was was alive as early as two thousand and two the photo was released to prove that he was in the killed. national security risk because the reason for not publishing that photograph is that about it all are going to be what is exactly talking about there. well you know they could do a lot of things with the photograph to be you know we've seen some photographs released in pakistan some of the other people killed in a compound were kind of bored out somewhat but we after president obama made this announcement we had all these fake photographs that were going around about you

losing, for instance, benazir bhutto to terrorist networks.ght to be asking tough questions of their military. we all know that pakistan is an important partner in counterterrorism but it's a troubled state. it has divisions within it. there are people who are sympathetic with extremists and we've always known that, even in some of the institutions. but this is a time for the pakistani government to take control of this issue, do a thorough investigation, work with us and others. >> the president had several courses of action presented to him. one of them was to object literate the compound by dropping 32 2,000 bombs. the other was -- there were several options but one of them was this assault that was riskier. what do you think that choice that the president made says about him and speaking of the president you know so well, president george w. bush, do you think he would have made the same call? >> i think knowing that it's very dangerous but nonetheless realizing that the benefits from a raid like this that was successful, the benefits of i

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they killed his wife, benazir bhutto. on the other hand, the chickens have come home to roost.tani security services have trained and utilized terror groups in pursuit of pakistani interests, and it has come back to haunt them. host: josh, welcome. caller: i have a question about the long-term impact of the finding of osama bin laden will assist the united states in going forward with its goals. guest: yes, again, one of the things that -- the story that has not been told yet, but which i mentioned earlier, is the degree to which the intelligence or information that has been found on osama bin laden -- there have been hard drives are paper documents, anything that can be exploited going forward. this has the potential -- for all we know, osama bin laden was day-ured with the a few- old newspapers and hard drives with movies on them. but if there is detail on the hard drives that are captured, other documents that the taken from the scene in abbottabad, the effect on our planning process going forward to try to disrupt and dismantle al qaeda could be highly significant. again, a

the current president is the widower of benazir bhutto, killed by terrorists. so you are right, they should be doing all of the anti-terrorism work for their own reasons, but helping them with this money makes sense. there are elements in the government that are very cooperative. there are elements that want to build a moderate anti-terrorist pakistan. those elements deserve our aid. but you cannot just throw money at the pakistani government and hope it gets to the right places. host: manhattan. evelyn is a democrat. caller: my question is about the congressman's opinion. good morning. a couple of years ago, i read a wonderful article in a foreign policy magazine predicting that pakistan is a terrorist state. they have nuclear weapons. do we consider them a threat? i do not know the specific amount in aid, but what we are giving them is not working to our advantage. we had to do a covert operation -- host: it is something that we have been talking about, so what is your question for the congressman? caller: should we continue our aid for pakistan? guest: i wou

he is a government official in the administration of the prime minister benazir bhutto, so please join me in welcoming hasan. thank you. [applause] >> thanks, susan. welcome all once again on behalf of usip and the asia society. i worked on pakistan. the institute. we are very pleased to be co hosting this event with the asia society. i just want to set up few ground rules to let everyone how we will proceed and say a few words. please make sure your cellphones are turned off or are on silent. major you remembered you turn them on when you leave the room. also for the panelists, since we are on tv, please speak from the podium and then in the questions, speak closely into the microphone as possible. yours is not going to work. [laughter] we will start with an overview of the report for about 10 minutes, and then we will have our two panelists say a few words about the report. i will come back to him if he had any responses on what was said of the panel. and make sure we have ample time for any questions from the floor. i'll let the task members say anything from the floor of the one. l

they killed his wife, benazir bhutto. on the other hand, the chickens have come home to roost.pakistani security services have trained and utilized terror groups in pursuit of pakistani interests, and it has come back to haunt them. host: josh, welcome. caller: i have a question about the long-term impact of the finding of osama bin laden will assist the united states in going forward with its goals. guest: yes, again, one of the things that -- the story that has not been told yet, but which i mentioned earlier, is the degree to which the intelligence or information that has been found on osama bin laden -- there have been hard drives are paper documents, anything that can be exploited going forward. this has the potential -- for all we know, osama bin laden was day-ured with the a few- old newspapers and hard drives with movies on them. but if there is detail on the hard drives that are captured, other documents that the taken from the scene in abbottabad, the effect on our planning process going forward to try to disrupt and dismantle al qaeda could be highly significant. aga

it caused them the life of benazir bhutto. >> reporter: dianne feinstein is holding a conference about this. more on that in my next update. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >> thank you, alison. >>> we're now hearing about a warning that cade has hidden a nuclear -- that al qaeda has hidden a nuclear bomb somewhere in europe that they claim could be set off if bin laden were ever captured or killed and reportly that's what khalid sheik mohammad told the interrogators and that's according to documents released by wicki los angeles but officials say many of muhammed's statements have -- wicki leaks but officials say many of muhammed's statements have been unfounded. >>> if you zoom in, you can see it's a smaller, quieter neighborhood surrounded by towns. one shows barbed wire along with what appears to be a guard on the roof. >>> a retired new york is police officer wants to get new license plates for his van now that osama bin laden has been killed. >> i will trade these in and i will make it "got osama" and hopefully the dmv approves. >> he's already updated the paint on his volcano

another thing even more surprising in a way is the benazir bhutto income support program which is intended to, basically, help the poor, identify the poor and support them. i must honestly confess that when that was introduced, i simply wrote it off as another patronage scheme. at least that's what i thought it would be. now, i'm not saying that that is completely absent, but the consensus among objective observers is that it has been surprisingly good at fulfilling what it was meant to do. so a number of areas where the pakistani state can still succeed. the problem is, of course, that these are particular areas. when it comes to the overall picture, the key question is; a, can pakistan survive? that question has been answered for me unless there is some catastrophic geopolitical development which directly or indirectly destroys pakistan. i leave that aside, of course, we can talk about that in the discussion. but i won't discuss it here because it opens up a completely, you know, new and huge set of questions. i think the question of whether things remaining as they are pakistan can surv

and before her assassination in 2007, former pakistani prime minister, benazir bhutto, accused hamza, in public, of being involved in an earlier assassination attempt against her. pakistani officials are also looking into the possibility it was another bin laden's son. bin laden's wives and other children are now being questioned at a safe house in or near islamabad. and they're providing their own treasure trove of intelligence. about bin laden's five years in the compound. u.s. officials have requested their own chance to interrogate the women. but so far, still haven't been granted. another of bin laden's sons, omar, is living in saudi arabia. and other family members have condemned the raid, calling it an illegal assassination of an unarmed man. robin, those family members are also now calling for the release of bin laden's wives and children saying they've done nothing wrong. >>> we want to bring in brian ross, who has been reporting on osama bin laden for a decade. you have some new reporting on this as well. >> reporter: given what jim has said. we checked with u.s. officials a

they have been victims of terrorism, leading even to the beth of benazir bhutto.how he could hide in plain sight? >> will it rethink the mission in afghanistan? we know there's fewer than 100 al qaeda in afghanistan. but 140,000 coalition troops. now, osama bin laden is dead. do you believe that kind of a mission can be justified to go after so few al qaeda members? >> the death of osama bin laden brings so an important chapter to a chose. but al qaeda still has ayman al zawahiri, number two in command. i assume the number one in command. we know they try every day to plot and plan to hurt us. so, we can't lose focus and vigilance, on the continuing terrorist presence. it's also important that afghanistan not go back to failed state status, which led to the kind of territorial integrity where al qaeda could plat and plan 9/11. >> this was an important victory, as you said, for the u.s. forces. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you, george. >>> now, let's get the rest of the headlines with josh elliott at the newsdesk. >> good news here. we got word th

post", hey, we've been victims of bin laden's terrorism, my own wife, the former prime minister, benazir bhuttowas a victim of an osama bin laden-style plot. did he make a good case in your view? >> well, the network we think was responsible for that assassination that has allegiances to al-qaeda, but i wouldn't say really al-qaeda. those were the kinds of things that finally got the pakistanis to come around and cooperate with us. listen, their national interests may not always intersect with the united states. we have this strange relationship. they help us at times and sometimes they frustrate us greatly about what they won't do and maybe in some cases, some folks who have been penetrated by sympathizers give up to the bad guys about what we're doing, which is one of the reasons i think we had to make the decision to go in unilaterally, by ourselves, and take care of this serious problem. but as i said, we still have some questions to ask, but with the information i've seen today, surely it didn't look and appear to me that they knew that he was there. jon: we talked earlier about whether th

he previously served as a government official in the administration, prime minister benazir bhutto and president purpose. our of. please join me in welcoming hassan abbas. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. welcome once again on behalf of the asia society. i welcome pakistan at the institute here. we are very pleased to oversee this event with the asia society. i want to set a few ground rules to let everyone know how we will proceed and sayre couple words. please make sure your cellphone are turned off or on silent and make sure you remember to turn them on when you leave the room. also for the panelists since we are on tv i request you speak from the podium and speak as close to the mike as possible to -- the trajectory of the mike will work. we will begin with hassan abbas giving a report for ten minutes or so. after that, we have our two panelists say a few words about the report. i will come back to hassan abbas if he has any response to what was set on the panel and make sure we have ample time for intervention from the floor. i also request members who say anything from the flo

he previously served as the government official in the administration of prime minister benazir bhutto and the president musharraf. so please come join me in welcoming hassan. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. welcome, all, once again on behalf of the usip society. i welcome pakistan at the institute here. once again, we are pleased to be coasting this event with the asia society. i just want to sit a few ground rules to let everyone know how we are going to proceed and say a couple of words. before anything, please, make sure your cell phones are turned off or are on silent and mcgeorge you remember to turn them on when you leave the room. and also for the panelists, since we are on tv i would ask you to speak from the podium, and then in the questions come speak as close into the microphone as possible [inaudible] [laughter] >> we will begin with hassan abbas getting an overview of the report for ten minutes or so, and after that, we will have the two panelists say a few words about the report. i will come back if he has any responses on this and on the panel and make sure we have

this has been going on for a long time and since the 1970's, starting with benazir bhutto. the side which has said, it is not enough to adjust the a homeland for muslims. -- to just be the homeland for muslims. we have to have this pan- islamic identity that has been gaining ground. it is a contest and that the deeper ideological -- the question of who am i that you raise that exists in iran and saudi arabia exists equally in pakistan. >> with apologies to the audience because we would like to hear your questions. it is interesting for me as someone who came from pakistan, the part of pakistan that have the greatest population which is now bangladesh has reversed direction and has actively and correctly, in my view, separated religion from the state. there refers to various other things that happened in pakistan that they inherited -- but they reversed -- they reversed various other things that happened in pakistan that they inherited. the lesson pakistan needs to learn is from their cousins 1,000 miles to these. >> i think it is important to make a sharp distinction betwee

the current president is the widower of benazir bhutto, killed by terrorists. so you are right, they should be doing all of the anti-terrorism work for their own reasons, but helping them with this money makes sense. there are elements in the government that are very cooperative. there are elements that want to build a moderate anti-terrorist pakistan. those elements deserve our aid. but you cannot just throw money at the pakistani government and hope it gets to the right places. host: manhattan. evelyn is a democrat. caller: my question is about the congressman's opinion. good morning. a couple of years ago, i read a wonderful article in a foreign policy magazine predicting that pakistan is a terrorist state. they have nuclear weapons. do we consider them a threat? i do not know the specific amount in aid, but what we are giving them is not working to our advantage. we had to do a covert operation -- host: it is something that we have been talking about, so what is your question for the congressman? caller: should we continue our aid for pakistan? guest: i wou