joining me now is congressman bennie thompson, democrat of mississippi and former chair of the house select committee on the january 6th attack. congressman, first, thank you for being with us. we appreciate you coming on tonight. president-elect trump continues to say he'll pardon most of those detained or convicted in connection with the january 6th attack on his first day in office he says he'll do it. now you having chaired the january 6th probe, what's the possibility of seeing these people walk free with trump's blessings? >> thanks so much for having me. what people saw january 6th with their very own eyes really did happen. our task as a committee was to look at the facts and circumstances that brought it about. clearly, at the end of our work donald trump created the climate. he basically sent people to the capitol to do what they did. we were not a prosecutorial body, so, therefore, the department of justice would have to do that, but for someone to say i'm going to pardon these patriots for breaking into the capitol, harming and assaulting law enforcement officers, threate

joining me now is democratic congressman bennie thompson of mississippi. he chaired the january 6th select committee. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. first of all, can we get your reaction to trump's comments that these january 6th pardons will apparently come right after he's sworn into office? he's saying within the first hour, maybe minutes. >> well, that's so unfortunate, jim. as you know what, america and the whole world saw with their own eyes. you saw people breaking into the united states capitol. you saw law enforcement being assaulted and ultimately we had several individuals who died because of that attack. and now all of a sudden, the incoming president is talking about pardoning them. and they were heroes and patriots. and that's just not who we are as a country. and i wish he would rethink it. but obviously he's already gone public to say that he would. >> and as i mentioned over the weekend, trump was talking about the january 6th committee that you used to lead. let's play some of what he had to say. >> i think those people comm

. >> and cheney was behind it, and so was bennie thompson.nd everybody on that committee were for what they did. yeah, honestly, they should go to jail. >> go to jail. that was the president elect on nbc's meet the press two sundays ago. yesterday, republicans on a house oversight subcommittee released a report giving him ammunition to do it. and this morning, he posted this on social media, quoting now, liz cheney could be in a lot of trouble based on the evidence obtained by the subcommittee, which states that numerous federal laws were likely broken by liz cheney. and these violations should be investigated by the fbi. the subcommittee report says that cheney, quote, tampered with at least one witness referring to former trump white house staffer cassidy hutchinson, who appeared before the committee. it spotlights conversations between hutchinson and congresswoman cheney, calling it, quote, unusual and potentially unethical for a member of congress conducting an investigation to contact a witness. if the member knows that the individual is

you know, i know it's bennie thompson. we came up the same way he in mississippi uh, in south carolina we can't afford to be paying our children's future out to attorneys protecting ourselves against stuff that just is not true. and so if you want don't want the pardon, then don't take it but for people who need to protect themselves, their children's future, i think the president should take that into account you know, you mentioned bennie thompson, the january sixth committee. >> this is what donald trump said about potentially investigating them listen for what they did. >> yeah honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail for what everyone on the committee. >> you think i think everybody on the anybody that voted in favor of going to direct your fbi director and your attorney general to send them to jail no, not at all. i think that they'll have to look at that. but i'm not going to i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill your reaction to that well, i think that's what i'm talking abo

i can give congressman bennie thompson a little bit of a break.have seen in our investigation he was more of a figurehead it was alyssa cheney who was calling the strikes and balls during this entire game they're playing. it was her that was in the lead of this. now he'll argued he kept everything he was required to keep. well, he is has a different interpretation of house rules protecting and archiving government documents at me and d the clerk and others have. this is, it's a case of semantics on their part. but when you have anything relative and transcribed interview that exonerates the former president of the united states and you don't think that is relative? it is contrary to what your start witness has said. i think that is very important. not only to preserve and archive, but for the american people to see. they will continue to say we have documented everything. we kept all the supporting documentation and it is available. that's fine, they did. it is the non- supporting documentation that tells the true at betmgm, everyone gets a welcom

, that is going to take some -- even if it doesn't deter adam schiff, or benny thompson, it may deter next one. i think on balance i would not be dissuaded by what it means for donald trump. >> all right, marc, stay with us. we want to talk about that breathing room you just referenced. president biden racing to secure his judicial legacy. this is "the weekend" on msnbc. c my work shirt. just wear it again! i added the unstopables now with odor blocker and it keeps our clothes fresh all day! [sniff] ooo imma be feelin it at work today. she smells so good i'm actually paying attention! smell unstopable. ahh, yellow! didn't pass the tissue test? buckle up! whoa! there's toothpaste white, and there's crest 3dwhitestrips white. whitens like a 400 dollar professional treatment. pilot: prepare for non-stop smiles. crest. your business needs a network it can count on... even during the unexpected. power's out! -power's out! power's out! comcast business has got you covered, with wifi backup to help keep you up and running. wifi's up. let's power on! let's power on! -let's power on! it's from

and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee. >> we're going to -- >> for what they didstly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did. >> everyone on the committee. >> i think everyone on the committee, everyone that voted in favor. >> are you going to direct your phish director to send them to jail. >> not at all. i think they'll have to look at that but i'm not going to -- i'm going to focus on drill baby drill. >> joining us now, april ryan, seen year white house correspondent and washington bureau chief for the agreo. she's also an msnbc contributor and author of "black women will save the world, an an them." thank you for being here. let's start off with what the president-elect had to say about the members of january 6 committee. do you believe this is a clear example of him making good on his campaign promises about seeking political retribution? >> you know, this is kind of controversial and two sides of the coin if you will. he is saying, no, that he's not going to tell his people, if they're confirmed like kash

i want to go to that point bennie thompson was just addressing, the crazy talk of donald trump aboutth the january 6th committee members. to me it's utter nonsense. there's no judicial or criminal process that can be applied to any members, but this question of pardons by president biden for members of the january 6th committee. >> first of all, in terms of what trump is saying, i think he has a couple intentions here. he obviously wants to try to intimidate members of the january 6th committee and others who held him accountable. we did our oversight as chairman thompson was saying perfectly appropriate and more than appropriate, necessary, but he also wants to send a message to others in the future. don't hold me accountable. don't try to hold me accountable because if you do, i will jail you or i will sic my justice department or fbi director on you. so he also wants to discourage any accountability in the future. this is not i think what people are voting for. crime was an issue, but in california it's smash-and-grab robberies, violent crime, someone gunning down a healthcare exe

he said some names, bennie thompson, liz cheney, maybe they should be in jail, maybe not. that's someone else's decision. he didn't want to fight with you. that's something that he often wants to do. it shows you, one, that feels emboldened. he won this election. he feels ready to move on. and i thought what was most fascinating is the -- there's no ideological purity with him. and that popped up over and over again. a patchwork of different policy prescriptions for things that usually, if you're a republican, those kind of -- you know, this, this, and, this that's what we care about. that wasn't here with donald trump. i think that kind of gives voters what they wanted which was not exactly a republican who's going to do all of the things that republicans typically do. >> a fascinating way to put it, mark, that there's no ideological purity that we heard. he was clear about his agenda items and feels he believes he has a mandate after his decisive win. >> he should. i thought he looked relax and confident covering a lot of topics. i think you'll see a flurry of activity f

the chairman of the january 6th committee, congressman bennie thompson, was asked about that threat today over the weekend, former president trump in an interview suggested that january 6th members should be jailed. do you have any reaction to that? and do you think that a president -- or, a preemptive pardon is necessary? >> well, i will take it one at a time, okay? first of all, to be president trump is absolutely wrong. there is nothing we did, as the january 6th select committee, that violates the law. just because you disagree with the work of the committee, is no way to threaten those members of the committee with jail. so, obviously, that is his opinion. as to whether or not president biden does anything with respect to that, it is his decision. i am comfortable with the fact that, as members of congress, we were doing our jobs, and as long as we do our job, that guarantees what we have, and i look forward to enforcing those guarantees. >> joining us now for his first interview since he became the junior senator from the state of california, is democratic senator adam schiff. senat

her public service of the committee of homeland security by the honorable congressman bennie thompson. good evening. thank you. good evening. all right. i'm happy to be here for a lot of reasons. first of all, i'm so happy to join the celebration of my colleague, sheila jackson lee. i'm the ranking democrat on homeland security. after november 5th of this year, i'll be the chairman again. so. and so it's it's so important for us to not forget, congresswoman jackson-lee. now to give you she was my colleague to my left. if i would not. the rancor, sheila, would have been the rancor. and if you know anything about her, she's the best molded task that i've ever known. that means she could be in three places at one time and never miss beat chief of staff would always be there in her stead. so what can i say about somebody you already know? diligent, hardworking. i don't know where the energy came from. she was like the energizer bunny and we always knew sooner or later she'd come through that door like a whirlwind. and the first thing she would say is. mr. chairman, if she wanted to speak

he said some names, bennie thompson, liz cheney, maybe they should be in jail, maybe not. something that he often wants to do. it shows you, one, that he feels emboldened. he won this election. he feels ready to move on. and i thought what was most fascinating is, there's no ideological purity with him, and that popped up over and over and goempb. over again. a patchwork for different policy things. usually if you're a republican, this, this, and this, that wasn't here with donald trump. and i think that kind of gives voters what they wanted. which was not exactly a republican who's going to do all of the things that republicans typically do. >> it's a fascinating way to put it, there's no ideological purity that we heard, but he was very clear about what his agenda items were. he feels emboldened that he believes he has a mandate after his decisive win. >> i thought he looked very relaxed and confident in your long interview covering a lot of topics. i think you'll see a flurry of activity in the first hundred days from the executive branch, but i think something that's b

. >> and cheney was behind it, and so was bennie thompson. and everybody on that committee. we're going to for what they did. yeah honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail for what they did on the committee? >> i think everybody anybody that voted in favor of going to direct your fbi director and your attorney general to send them to jail no, not at all. i think that they'll have to look at that. but i'm not going to i'm going to focus on drill, baby. drill so we should be clear, trump's claims about the house select committee destroying records is unfounded. >> but cheney responded to the president-elect's threats, and we have to put this out there, she said in this statement. she called them a continuation of his assault on the rule of law. and the foundations are of our republic. will kash patel go after members of this committee, and if so, on? what specific criminal grounds? >> so i do have to take issue with saying that the select committee didn't go and destroy records they've wiped everything. >> what evidence do you have for tha

as you heard there from former january 6th committee chairman bennie thompson. he he clearly seems to want a pardon. others of the committee, such as adam schiff, who's now a senator from california, has have said, basically, we don't want a pardon. don't give us anything that makes it look like we did something wrong. we did nothing wrong. so you're hearing sort of mixed reactions. there is a concern that donald trump would misuse the justice department to go after his political enemies. he has said that he wants to do that in certain cases. he has said members of the january 6th committee should be imprisoned. he has yet to define what crime he believes they've committed or what potential offenses have been committed. so again, this is a pledge to sort of go after political rivals without any real basis in law. >> trump's pick to head health and human services vaccine skeptic rfk jr. will be on capitol hill next week and ahead of those meetings with senators, senator mitch mcconnell released a statement. and let me read part of it here. the polio vaccine has s

>>>>and cheney was behind it, and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee. we're going to fight for what they did. yeah, honestly, they should go to >>>>jail. cheney slammed trump's idea as a continuation of his assault on the rule of law >>>>and he told >>>>the interview was part of a whirlwind weekend on the world stage where trump attended the reopening of the notre dame cathedral. meeting with french president emmanuel macron prince william and ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, trump said zelensky is ready to make a deal and called for an immediate cease fire between ukraine and russia overnight, the president elect named his personal attorney, elena harbor, to serve as counselor to the president. he's also defending some of his controversial picks like tulsi gabbard for intel, director pete hegseth for defense, and kash patel for the fbi. they're expected on capitol hill this week. >>>>okay, let's switch gears and give you a live look outside towards san francisco. you see the transamerica building standing nice and tall. beautiful sunny day, but

chairman bennie thompson called trump's suggestion absolutely wrong. as a nation of laws, clearly we stand strong on the principles of freedom of speech, assembly and all those things that are guaranteed by the constitution. and obviously, i would expect someone in his position to do likewise. now, historically, pardons are issued to people who have already been accused of a specific crime. preemptive pardons, though, are unusual, and they do have a historical precedent. most californians are pessimistic about the future of the state. that's according to a new survey by the public policy institute surveyed over 2000 californians last month following election day. the report says many working californians are struggling with low wages, along with the high cost of living. 50% of the state doesn't approve of the way governor newsom is handling his job and the economy. newsom has said that california is where the american dream is still alive. but those who took the survey say the american dream is harder to achieve in california than in other states. a ma

and so was bennie thompson. and everybody on that committee. we're going to for what they di. yeah, honestly, they should go to jail. so you think liz cheney everyone on the committee. you think i think everybody on the anybody that voted in favor of going to direct your fbi director and your attorney general to send them to jail? no, not at all. i think that they'll have to look at that. but i'm not going to i'm going to focus on drill, baby. drill. this is on meet the press that aired yesterday. that exclusive interview president biden has talked about a possible preemptive pardon for those on that committee. however, newly sworn in senator adam schiff doesn't want to start a precedent of presidents issuing blanket pardons before leaving office. another committee member, bay area representative zoe lofgren, released a statement today saying in part, our select committee followed the facts and provided the american people with the truth. and while they may not be inconvenient truth for donald trump, it's an honest depiction of what happened. raj joining us now is our politica

so is benny thompson and everybody on that committee for what they did.should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did? >> everyone on the committee you think. >> i think everybody. anybody that voted in favor. >> are you going to direct them to send them to jail? >> not at all. >> reporter: abc news learning that president biden, in light of threats like these considering preemptive pardons for people like former congresswoman liz cheney. and major headlines on immigration. trump again saying he wants to deport all undocumented immigrants not just criminals, even if it means deporting entire families. >> i don't want to be breaking up families, so the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back. >> reporter: now, trump also said he wants to try to end the idea of birthright citizenship, the guarantee that people born on u.s. soil are then automatically u.s. citizens. it's not clear if he can juice do that through executive action or what it would look like. that

. >> cheney was behind it and so is bennie thompson and anybody on the committee, for what they did honestlyo to jail. >> former republican representative and liz cheney responded donald trump suggestion that members of congress who later investigated is illegal and unconstitutional action should be jailed is a continuation of his assault on the rule of law and the foundation of our republic is in the president-elect said he will not instruct his special counsel jack smith. he is winding down his operations after trump won the election last month. back to you. stuart: thank you very much indeed. a quick check of the market, the nasdaq just hit another all-time high, 198 is where it is, check the big board, the dow board down a fraction down four points, that's all they got, the dow winners let's have a look we have a few of them, with caterpillar, boeing, chevron, amazon amgen, is to be 500, the winners a good opportunity to show was a whole bunch of stocks, interpublic, celanese, freeport, aes corporation, nasdaq winners, who do we have, pdd holdings, workday, warner bros., walgreens allian

. >> cheney was behind it and so was bennie thompson.uld go to jail. >> you think liz cheney should go to jail. >> everyone who served on committee. i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> following those remarks on trump, james comer told the bulwark this -- with politicians if you've used a congressional committee and you've lied. and tim burchett said there -- and lauren boebert added, i think anybody who has politically imprisoned american citizens and completely ruined their lives. they're okay with their democratic colleagues for being imprisoned for simply doing their job. this is what people are afraid of with a trump era returning to washington. >>> next ahead, what we're learning about meta's major donation to president-elect trump. >>> plus, strange headline here, new jersey residents say they've been seeing mysterious drones in the sky, we'll dig into those reports and how the pentagon is weighing in. we'll be right back with that. b. ♪ like a relentless weed, moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep comin

. >> i think those people committed a major, and liz cheney was behind it and bennie thompson and everybody on that committee, for what they did honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- >> everybody on the committee? are you going to director fbi director and attorney general to send them to jail? >> i think they will have to look at that. i will focus on drill baby drill. >> when you say that, that carries weight. you tap these people to leave the justice department and fbi. >> they can do what they want. >> they can do whatever they want to. just to be clear, here is what i want is what donald trump is basically saying. donald trump is openly advertising he wants leaders at the doj to do his bidding. he may have found them in pam bondi, his attorney general pick and kash patel's nominee to run the fbi. a dangerously unqualified political ally who already has a reputation for selective leaks and who has promised the new trump administration will go after journalists he does not like. even as we are still learning about the dept

what are you charging benny thompson with.ocess if it actually happens. but this is another case like pardoning the january 6th convicted felon. is he really going to open the jails and let people who beat up cops out into the streets? and what would be the -- he's still trying to be president of the united states and run a country and all that would hamper his ability to do it. >> it would definitely hamper his ability. you have to first start with that whoever donald trump nominates to be the district u.s. attorneys are people that usually have more of a background than some of those he's putting forward for his cabinet. and do you think people that have done 30, 40 years of service in the criminal justice arena wants to throw all of that away on some bogus indictments and bogus cases, when the root of the accusation is that there was an attempted insurrection and stopping of the certification of the election. let's not talk about something that didn't warrant a congressional investigation. we're talking about people who tri

bennie thompson says he rsvped no for somebody who he said he will lock me up, i don't see the excitementn going to see his inauguration. not every democrat feels this way. there is one lawmaker imploring his democratic colleagues to be more understanding of the incoming president and his team. the one democrat who took a meeting with pete hegseth. senator john fetterman. >> we had a conversation. that's what happened and that's where we're at. there really is no new news after that conversation. >> he is not saying he will vote for hegseth but he is hearing him out in private. the kind of thing that party leaders can't tell fetterman not to do. at the moment the national democratic party doesn't really have a clear leader. >> bill: thank you, peter. i get one, thanks a lot. talk to you real soon. >> dana: let's bring in kayleigh mcenany and charles payne. great to have you. take a look at this. a tech ceos lining up to meet with president trump. zucker book, tim cook and the google ceo and this week jeff bezos and might be more than that. this is a different and signifies perhaps the rec

. >> she was behind it and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee.or what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> former representative and committee member liz cheney responded quote donald trump's suggestion that members of congress who later investigated his illegal and unconstitutional actions should be jailed is a continuation of his assault on the rule of law and the foundations of our republic. the president-elect says he will also not instruct his justice department to investigate the special counsel jack smith. smith has started winding down his operations after trump won the election last month. back to you, dana. >> dana: rich edson, thank you. >> i'm trying to figure out what my future looks like right now. i'm fortunate that i have a lot of things potentially in front of me and as soon as i make a decision, i promise to let everybody know. >> bill: that was lara trump on our program about five days ago. last week talking about her future as we learn she is now stepping down as the co-chair of the rnc. news coming at her father-in-

. >> liz cheney was behind it and so was bennie thompson and everybody on the committee, for what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did. anybody that voted in favor -- >> will you director fbi director and attorney general to send them to jail? >> they will have to look at that. i will focus on drill baby drill. >> he wants liz cheney and members of the january 6 committee in jail, but he's not going to direct them to do anything. now, the idea that trump would need to do direct loyalists like kash patel and pam bondi to do something like that is pretty laughable. there was never in any administration, and especially not his, going to be a formal sitdown or paper trail where he tells them in a memo and bold print from the white house, go investigate my enemies. here is an attached list signed donald trump. it doesn't mean he's not giving them directions because he is including that interview. pretty directly. the boss says liz cheney and members of the january 6 committee should be in jail. is it that different becau

dozen of them were reportedly planning to skip the trump inauguration and their noncommittal, bennie thompson congressman tells acxiom's he's rsvping and is going to lock me up and i don't see the excitement and to see his inauguration, not every democrat feels this way, there is one lawmaker employing his democratic colleagues to be more understanding of incoming president and his team the one democrat that took a meeting with pete hegseth, senator john fetterman. >> there's no new news after that conversation. >> is not saying he's going to vote for pete hegseth but is hearing him out, that's the thing the party leaders cannot tell him not to do because of the moment the national democratic party doesn't really have a leader. stuart: software bank ceo will reportedly make a 100 billion-dollar investment in the u.s. over the next four years he is expected to meet with president-elect trump today at mar-a-lago, the incoming white press secretary is with us this morning, karoline leavitt joins us. any idea what this money will be used for it looks like a big win for trump. >> it's a huge win f

ranking member bennie thompson heads up the homeland security committee and ranking member gregory meeksp the foreign affairs committee. so our finger is always on the pulse of what is taking place on capitol hill, both domestically and internationally. when you talk about hud, now you're talking about congresswoman maxine waters, of financial services ranking member. we have the largest number of cbc members in the history of the united states in the legislative body. and members are on every committee of jurisdiction. in addition to having four members in the united states senate. two of whom are flu to new to t and are cbc members. i expect that we'll cover all subject matter, however we will be focused on the impact of people of african decent. we'll be focused on advancing legislation that helps the human condition with the focus on the black communities across this nation. >> congresswoman, this from politico, your mayor eric adams not ruling out a switch to the gop saying cancel me, the mayor is set to sit down with tom ho mavn to talk about places to deport undocumented immigrati

. >> and cheney was behind it, and so was benny thompson and everybody on that committee. >> we're goingle did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- >> everyone on the committee? >> i think everyone -- anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director -- >> no. >> -- and attorney general to send them to jail? >> not at all. i think they'll have to look at that, but i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> joining me now is mary trump, the niece of president-elect donald trump and author of multiple books, including "too much and never enough: how my family created the world's most dangerous man" and the brand-new book ", who could ever love you: a family memoir" and tim o'brien, executive editor of an nbc political -- msnbc political analyst and author of "trump nation: the art of being the donald." let's get your reaction to that specific piece of the "meet the press" interview kristen welker about the january 6th committee. >> i don't think we should be surprised by it. trump campaigned on

. >> sean: benny thompson of the january sixth committee is open to a pardon. hillary clinton is open to a pardon. liz cheney got a referral for an fbi investigation, anthony found she wants one. other biden family members will get pardons by the time all is said and done. i wouldn't be surprised if joe parted himself. we will see. thank you both. when we come back, avenue some mocking donald trump's department of government efficiency while bragging about the efficiency of california's government. you heard me right. can neuriva support your brain health? mary. janet. hey! eddie. no! fraser. frank. frank. fred. how are you? support up to seven brain health indicators, including memory. when you need to remember, remember neuriva. say christmas. christmas! when you want gifts to express a lifetime of love - we've spent a lifetime crafting them. harry & david, 90 years and still sharing. ♪ imagine checking your own heart with medical precision from anywhere. introducing kardiamobile 6l. the fda cleared ekg that provides six times more heart data than any smartwa

. >> and cheney was behind it and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee, for what theynestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- >> everyone on the committee you think should go to jail. >> anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director or your attorney general to send them to jail? >> not at all. they'll have to look at this. i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> when you say that you've tapped these people to lead the justice department and fbi. >> they can do whatever they want. >> liz cheney responded with this statement. "president-elect trump again lied about the january 6th committee and said members of the committee should go to jail for carrying out our constitutional responsibilities. here is the truth. donald trump attempted to overturn the 2020 presidential election and seize power. he mobilized an angry mob and sent them to the united states capitol where they attacked police officers, invaded the building, and halted the official counting of electoral votes. trum

and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee. >> we're going to -- >> but what they dido jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- >> everybody on the committee. >> anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director attorney general to send them to jail? >> not at all. i think they'll have to look at that, but i'm not going to -- i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> and i asked the president-elect if he plans to follow through on his campaign promise to pardon those who attacked the capitol on january 6th, including the more than 900 people who pleaded guilty to crime. >> i'm going to look at everything. we'll look at individual cases. >> okay. >> but i'm going to be acting very quickly. >> within your first 100 days, first day? >> first day. >> yeah, i'm looking to issue these pardons. >> these people have been there -- how long is it? three, four years. >> okay. >> by the way, they've been in there for years. and they're in a filthy, disgusting place that shouldn't even be allowed to be open. >> and whe

that would include people, you know, hillary clinton, liz cheney, doctor anthony fauci, bennie thompson is begging to be on the list as well. now, he and liz cheney were on the january 6th committee. are they trying to hide something? did they lie? did they commit any crimes in that sham january 6th committee with a predetermined outcome? but we're supposed to believe that the people that raided trump's house spied on his communications, indicted him on what nearly 100 cooked up felonies as he was running for president. now, all of a sudden, they're worried about a weaponized doj. maybe they fear what they did to donald trump and others. maybe they're fearing that will be done to them. i don't think it should be, but probably that's what they're thinking. the hypocrisy, duplicity from the biden administration is almost it's believable but almost unbelievable. now, this might be the most dishonest, the least transparent white house in american history. so the drone or flying object, or the thing that people describe as a big bus that sounds like a harley story that emerged this week, is

trump: he was behind it and so was benny thompson and everyone on the committee. what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director and your attorney to isn't them to jail? -- attorney general -- >> not at all. they'll have to look at that, but i'm going to focus on drill baby drill. >> jesse: trump's like, liz cheney should be in jail, but i'm not going to tell pam bondi what to do. of all the things they did to trump he's most mad at liz cheney. [ laughter ] i'd probably be more mad at alvin, but that's just me. and maybe kim cheadle, because that bullet came that close. trump is focused on fairness. >> you promised to end birth right citizenship on day one. is that still your plan. >> mr. trump: absolutely. >> the 14th amendment says that, quote, all persons born in the united states are citizens. can you get around the 14th amendment with an executive action. >> mr. trump: we maybe have to go back to the people, but we

patel and the others and head of doj to go after liz cheney and bennie thompson but yes, he feels thaty should be held accountable for voting against him in the january 6th select committee. any time donald trump puts your name in his mouth there are people who go after you. that is a fact. it is not myth, not conjecture. so, i am not surprised that he made those comments to "meet the press" today. but at the end of the day this is who this president is. his whole campaign was about retribution. that is what he spoke about there morning. >> and as we know, kash patel for fbi director has an enemy's list in the back of his latest book. so the president-elect does not have to act him to do it. he written himself he will do it. april, listen to trump's comments about those who were arrested for attacking the capitol on january 6th, watch this. >> i am going to look at everything. >> everyone? >> okay. >> but i am going to be acting very quickly. >> within your first 100 days? >> first day. >> first day. >> yeah. i am looking for it. >> issuing the pardons >> how long has it been. three to

. >> and cheney was behind it, and so was benny thompson and everybody on that committee.go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director to send them to jail? >> no, they'll have to look at that, but i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> this the last hour, liz cheney released a statement saying -- >>> joining me now, nbc political analysis brendan buck, a former press secretary to former house speaker john boehner. and democratic strategist anesha cross. that clip from donald trump, your respective reactions. brendan, you go first. >> he didn't even articulate what crime they committed. anybody who holds a hearing committee, hasn't committed a crime. i will say, if the president wants to derail his presidency really fast, try to prosecute liz cheney and bring back up what happened on january 6th. it's a very quick way to do that. it's one of the least popular things of his entire presidency, obviously, and the thing that most people have the lowest regard f

. >> cheney was behind it, and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee -- for what theyids z cheney should go to jail? everyone on the committee? >> i think anybody -- anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director, your attorney general to send them to jail? >> not at all. i think they'll have to look at that. i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. we're going to look at everything. >> everyone. okay. >> i'm going to be acting very quickly. >> within your first 100 days, first day? >> first day. >> first day. >> yeah. i'm looking first day. >> issuing pardons. >> these people have been -- three, four years. >> okay. >> by the way, they've been in there for years, and they're in a filthy, disgusting place that shouldn't be allowed to be open. >>> joining us now white house correspondent for "politico" and co-author of "the playbook," eugene daniels. good morning. let's get your reaction here to trump's comments. first, fulfilling a campaign pledge, it would appear, to free those january 6th prisoners. and then to suggest -- and this is per

. >> and cheney was behind it and so was benny thompson, and everybody on that committee, for what theyd go to jail. >> you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did, anybody that voted in favor -- >> are you going to direct your fbi director to send them to jail? >> i think they will have to look at that but i'm going to focus on drill, baby drill. >> joining us now dosha burns covering the transition and sarah matthews former deputy white house press secretary we may recall testify publicly, trump has talked about consequences for his political enemies but has he gone this far since he was elected? >> trump has made this sort of threat dozens of times, the difference now is it has more weight because he is the president elect, in the same interview, he also said that success would be his retribution, so this is kind of classic trump, where he says things that sound the alarm for his opponents, but at the same time, will say something else in the same interview, in the same conversation that will give ammunition to his defenders to say will look, he saying that he's goin

so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee -- for what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what >> everyone on the commit sny. >> i think everyone. >> anybody who voted. >> are you going to direct your fbi director or attorney general to send them to jail? >> no, not at all. they will have to look at that. i am going to focus on drill, baby, drill. okay. >> so he wants liz chainy and members of the january 6th -- cheney and members of the january 6th commit tow go to jail but not direct them to do anything. now, the idea that trump would need to direct loyalists like kash patel or pam bondi to do that is laughable. there was never a formal sit down or a paper trail where he tells them in a memo in large bold print from the white house, go investigate my enemies. here is an attached list. signed, donald trump. but that does not mean he is not giving them directions. he is. including in that interview. pretty directly. the list liz cheney should be in jail. he attempted to give himself plausible deniability? i supp

. >> she was behind it and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee.hat they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did. i think anybody that voted in favor. >> are you going to direct them to send them to jail? >> i think they will have to look at that but i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> trump said he would leave it up to his attorney general nominee, pam bondi, as well as his fbi director nominee to decide if they want to investigate the people that he was talking about or if they want to investigate president biden or others but those nominees have made clear that they want to investigate the investigators and go after anyone they consider an enemy of the president-elect. >> they covered a lot of topics in this interview. what else stood out to you? >> the president-elect was asked about whether he would restrict medication abortion. at first, he said no, and when pressed on when he would fully commit to not restricting it, he said, things change. also, his comments on tarif

. >> i think those people committed a major crime, and janie was behind it, and so was benny thompson and everybody on that committee. for what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> reporter: so, you think ms. cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did -- >> reporter: everybody on the committee, using should go to jail? >> are you going to direct your fbi director and attorney general to send them to jail? >> no, not at all. i think you will have to look at that, but i'm going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> reporter: when you say that, though, you have tapped these people to lead the justice department and fbi. >> they can do whatever they want. >> "they can do whatever they want." what, just to be clear, here is what i want, is what donald trump is basically saying. donald trump is openly advertising that he wants leaders at the doj to do his bidding. and he may have found them in pam bondi, his attorney general pick, and cache patel, his pick to run the fbi, a dangerously unqualified political ally who already has a reputation for selective leaks, and has already pr

liz cheney, bennie thompson, adam kinsinger, everybody else on the committee. red siren. i would say, specifically for joe biden, when he's talking about what pardons need to be issued. for everybody postelection that said, you know, people didn't want the fascist rhetoric. they didn't want the harsh retribution. they were voting because of the price of bread and gasoline, well, donald trump, postelection, still talking this way. what does it mean? >> let's separate those two. the idea that members of congress were doing her job, doing their investigation came up with their conclusions and then reported those should go to jail. obviously we've never heard any other president in history say that would be the case. he was a crystal clear he's going to follow through with that. obviously it's something that bothers them, troublesome to the point that you brought it up again. but i would separate that from the january 6th pardons, which he made crystal clear he is doing. it looks like he's doing it on day one. in terms of issues where there is a massive two differe

. >> and cheney was behind it, and so was bennie thompson and everybody on that committee for what they did. yeah, honestly, they should go to jail. i think that liz cheney is a disaster. all she wants to do is blow people up. she's a war hawk and a dumb one at that. if you gave liz cheney a gun and put her into battle, facing the other side with guns pointing at her, she wouldn't have the courage or the strength or the stamina to even look the enemy in the eye all right. >> i want to go to tim mulvey. he served as communications director for that house select committee investigation into january 6th, working very closely with cheney and the other seven committee members. so, tim, here is this, you know, coming out today, you know, as part of all of this chaos on capitol hill, this liz cheney situation where they are signaling her out for retribution in the house republicans, january 6th report saying numerous laws were likely broken by liz cheney. and, you know, obviously, we've heard the context here. the former and future president saying that that she and others should go to jail fo