becky benson: thank you. scott samuelson: francis degnin, a professor of ilosophy at university of northern iowa. thanks for being on francis. francis degnin: thank you. scott samuelson: at the end, linda livingston, a pastor at ascension lutheran church, linda, thank you for being on. linda livingsto: it's good to be here. scott samuelson: okay, well becky, let's just sttt off with the big have a law that allows mentally competent, terminally ill adults to voluntarily request and receive drugs to end their own lives? becky benson: well, i think that's a very difficult question. i think my first answer to that would be that i don't think that that's the best solution to how do we take better care of people at the end of their lives. i think that putting more money and emphasis into palliative care e rograms and really i think we've bebeome disconnecttd from the natural process of dying in america and we like the idea of control. that's a very unifying principle for most americans is we like to control when th

master craftsman nick benson. michelle miller has story of unique american family. >> with a mall lot and chisel the slowest writer in newport rhode island, averages just two letters an hour. even when nick benson breaks out his power tools, he's not much faster. but for some stone carvers it's not about speed it's about stapping the test of lime. >> you get into a runner's high with it, where it becomes this out of body experience. at the same time it's really cerebral. >> you can see his work across our country from headstones to war monuments to presidential memorials. >> it's so who i am that it runs the gamut. i love it. i hate it, it drives me crazy. it is all. it's everything. >> his craft is among most ancient known to man. so perhaps it's fitting that the johns stevens shop where he works dates back to 1705. tucked away on this quiet street for the last 310 years it has changed ownership only once, in the 1920s when nick's grandfather bought it from the stevens family. who is that guy? >> that's my grandf

. >> reporter: john benson is nick's father and mentor.tired. >> they're all crazy, these romans. >> reporter: but in his day, he was a superstar. his work can be found everywhere, from rockefeller plaza in new york city, to the national gallery of art in washington, d.c. >> there's a tremendous, emotional appeal about a carved letter. it partakes of the substance of the building. >> reporter: famed architect ian pae commissioned benson to work on the museum of fine arts, boston. they didn't always see eye to eye. >> i can remember arguing about where lettering would go. he wanted it in one place, i moved it. then he wanted to move it again and i dug my heels in. >> reporter: who won? >> i turned to him and i said at the end of it when i knew he wasn't going to budge, i said well, it's your building. he said, yes, it is. >> reporter: perhaps his best known work is the john f. kennedy grave site at arlington national cemetery. he recalled the importance of it in the 1979 documentary "final marks." >> this was the biggest job. of lettering o

benson, bush did not work because benson was more conservative than yarborough.ley's move got benson the nomination. there we go. so president bush goes up to meet with nixon. someone mentioned the u.n. to him. car charlie bartlett. old washington guy. bush started thinking about this. nixon decided he wants to make him an assistant to the president working for bob halderman. so president bush makes the case, says i think i could do more good for you at the u.n. nobody's up there making the case for you. nobody's supporting you. and it was a brilliant, brilliant tactical argument because nixon's looking at the son of prescott bush with whom he has served in the senate when he was vice president. the polished son, the ivy league son of a senator and thinking, you know what, what bush is saying is right. if he goes up there, he can make the case for me. i'm the grocer's son from yorba linda and having this figure is going to work for me in new york. but all that thought process happens after he sent bush out to find bush a white house office. right as water gate's

even on benson avenue too. they drive -- like they go through lights. >> reporter: and after that first woman was struck down, about 10:00 at night police say a 61-year-old man was crossing the street. he was simply in front of his home on bay parkway near benson avenue when he was hit by a livery cab, according to police. he also died. and a 21-year-old livery cab driver was arrested. he's been charged for driving with a suspended license. as you know, this is happening during a ten-day crackdown. the nypd trying to get reckless >> kat, thanks very much. >>> 4:40 right now. the man who police say led them on a wild chase in brooklyn is waking up in the hospital this morning. police say they spotted the 24-year-old speeding. when they tried to pull him over, he took off, eventually crashing into an mta bus and truck. the man ran from the wreck with a gun. police chased him for three blocks before he fell and dropped his weapon. they say when reached for it, an officer shot him twice in the stomach. witnesses ar

. >> reporter: john benson is nick's father and mentor. at 75, he's now retired. >> they're all crazy, these romans. >> reporter: but in his day, he his work can be found everywhere, from rockefeller plaza in new york city, to the national gallery of art in washington, d.c. >> there's a tremendous, emotional appeal about a carved letter. it partakes of the substance of the building. >> reporter: famed architect ian pae commissioned benson to work on the museum of fine arts, boston. they didn't always see eye to eye. >> i can remember arguing about where lettering would go. he wanted it in one place, i moved it. then he wanted to move it again and i dug my heels in. >> reporter: who won? >> i turned to him and i said at the end of it when i knew he wasn't going to budge, i said well, it's your building. he said, yes, it is. >> reporter: perhaps his best known work is the john f. kennedy grave site at arlington national cemetery. he recalled the importance of it in the 1979 documentary "final marks." >> this was the biggest job. of lettering

joining us now guy benson. it has been a busy weekend for the trump team.t is the reaction that carson has pulled back but crews is coming on strong. i think that i heard him say he would go to war. >> he definitely said that. thisthat. this is a race. only one man or woman can survive. i think the bigger story is who is not rising in the polls. when you add carson, you have $0.60 of republican voters who are getting rid of the gop establishment which is why you now see the gop combining efforts to go against trump. charles: the great point that katrina makes. there is still a repudiation of the gop has business as normal. ultimately all of the eggs go into the rubio basket, but what do you make of this? >> it has been a busy week, and i am delighted that i am on with katrina because one of the stories we heard is the hullabaloo over the muslim registry. if i may, the one thing that i am trying to pin down, setting aside the fact that a reporter brought this issue up out of nowhere and setting aside the issue of the refugees in the border, has donald trump

lou: joining us, town hall.com, guy benson, political editor.bony williams, fox news contributors and more than welcome here. let me start with you, guy. this with trump and the "wall street journal" and issue of free trade. there is no surprise that the journal would be upset with mr. trump for criticizing a quote, unquote free trade treaty. >> no. they have differences of opinion. and different views who was conservatism looks like on trade, immigration and a number of things, they will call trump out on things he will push back, that is what he does. lou: and clinton, e-mail probe is expanding, ebony. this is the last thing she really needed? >> absolutely. the believability and authenticity of hillary clinton, polls are so low. jim has been deliberate, saying this is in the little bit -- not political for him, he is doing his job. i am not surprised to see this investigation expanding to a very broad scope. people want to know, will she be prosecuted. this is a separate issue that can go deep as comey wants it to. we have to wait to see what

clinton and what she told the victims' families in the days after that terrorist attack. >> guy bensonontributor and co-author of the book. >> the washington post did a fact check saying you can't really say lie. she says it was a confusing time. it was the thought of war. and they give short thrift that there was nothing ambiguous that she told to them when she told them flat out you were killed because of a video. >> that's right. and rubio was called two pinochios. i think there should be a robust debate about whether or not mrs. clinton intentionally and deliberately distorted what happened. i believe he's on firm ground. but what caught my attention about this fact check in particular was a line given to the washington post, a quote from hillary clinton who flat out denied that hillary had ever blamed the violence in benghazi on that internet video. so if the clinton campaign is saying that she ever blamed the video, that directly contradicts the statements from multiple family members who have said on the record, including on your show, megyn, as you know, that that is precisely

thank you for being with us. >> hi. >> hi, benson, how are you?s woken up by the gun shots this morning. >> tell me about that, it must have been so sudden, and so shocking. what did you hear? >> so i was woken up by the gun shots. at first i was like, hmm, this could be fireworks. then i came to my senses that it's no fireworks at 4:00 a.m. that was impossible. and then basically i was looking at twitter and facebook and sawing some tweets about the shooting and then realized it was a continuation of friday. because i was somewhat fairly close to the scene but not so close on friday. i alerted my flat mate and then i try to get in the room furthest away from the window and the door. and then a few minutes later, i decided that i wanted to share what i was witnessing with the world. >> you put it up on periscope, right, benson? >> on periscope, for my safety, i was using my stick. yes, for my safety, i was like, this must be a creative use of my selfie stick. and then i just basically left my phone there because i was concerned about my life. so -

. >> the second victim was killed right near benson avenue. the 22-year-old driver was charged with driving with us a suspended license. former face of subway, jared fogle's high profile court case, next. we at time warner cable need to apologize to you. we no longer offer an excuse to stay home all day just in case the cable company decides to show up. we're making a bunch of changes at time warner cable, including one-hour arrival windows. we'll also tell you how long our visit will take before your appointment starts. so now you're not stuck waiting on us. and if you still need an excuse to stay home all day, p we've compiled a whole list at >>> jared fogle will learn his fate in court. he pleaded guilty to sex crimes and pornography. as jay gray shows us, those are crimes that could land him in jail for a decade. >> reporter: jared fogle remained quiet this morning saving his words for the sentencing inside. the 32-year-old father of two pled guilty to traveling across state lines to engage in sex with minors. >> fogle admitted that he rep

joining us now, townhall.com political editor, fox news contributor, guy benson.ox news contributor ebony williams, and "washington examiner" chief political correspondent byron york, also fox news contributor. thanks to you all for being here. guy, let me begin with you. there, just about the time you think trump will back away from an attack he sort of slides into one. do you expect him to continue that? it seems to have worked for him at this point. >> he is never one to shy away from an attack. what's interesting is what he said in the last day or so, which he is not planning to go after dr. carson tonight on the debate stage which he has done over the last couple days on some of these biographical issues, piling on with the mainstream media, shooting first, asking questions later. carson coming back saying hey, he has shown poor judgment siding with the media against me. we'll see if the fireworks bring into the debate earlier or later tonight. lou: the yale story where dr. scars son attack -- carson attacks savagely by many in the liberal media, he was valet

we have guy benson, townhall.com, and michael balboni, former director of homeland security.el, is it delusional? >> hard to imagine if you train your troops and have a tactical response to prevent a paris from happening that you have to consider climate change. literally, how do you resource against that? do you buy vests? do you buy weapons? what do you do against climate change. david: it is in paris. paris, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, was the site of the horrific attack. >> it is almost ironic that you will be talking about this. david: guy, could this hurt democrats chances? i know the president will be gone but hillary clinton is linked to the administration. could this hurt her chances of becoming president. >> i think it should. if american vote remembers watching, for example, the most recent democratic debate, where you had participants in that debate directly linking causal relationship, climate change and terrorism and isis while also refusing -- david: prince charles has done it too. >> i understand that. >> we all respect his foreign policy views. >> they dr

melissa: joining me now guy benson, town haul editor and fox news contributor, shown senior strategist and brad blake man senior advisor to george w bush, thank you, all of you for joining us. i would say that the comment it strikes me as more the one about people cheering when the towers matter for opinion people are back ups terror may think that's appropriate. but in terms of factually saying cheering, there were lots of news organizations that said -- nothing seems to impact him. why do you think that is, guy? >> well, first of all, i would say that i agree with him on water bothering. i think it should be used as an occasional -- melissa: we don't want to get into that, though. >> i'm just saying. i often disagree with donald trump, so i want to give him some credit here and say i agree with him on water boarding -- that was one of his quotes and also claimed that he watched thousands of people in new jersey on television cheering on 9/11. there's no evidence whatsoever on that and he keeps doubling down. melissa: but it has no impact why. >> well, i think because he has a very ha

these half-wrapped dead fish are hung on the roof of a benson hurst home. a woman we spoke with explained it's an ancient way of drying fish, but some neighbors are complaining the odor is too much. >> it's a little peculiar. we don't think much of it. most of the time i kind of pass by. >> now, the fish did come down at sunset today. city officials say there is nothing illegal about this practice and it doesn't attract bugs or rodents. >>> an e. coli outbreak linked to chipotle restaurants has spread to six states. previous cases are reported in oregon, washington and minnesota. now you can add to the list, california, ohio and new york state. e. coli was reported in the buffalo area. so far, 45 people have been infected nationwide, 16 hospitalized. the illnesses began on october 19. no one has died. federal health officials are still trying to determine the source of the outbreak. >>> a new jersey woman is pleading for the return of priceless possessions stolen in a box delivered to her house. surveillance cameras captured a mini van pulling up in front o

even on benson avenue, too. they drive -- like they go through lights. >> reporter: and the second pedestrian who lost his life, 10:00 at night. police say a 61-year-old man was crossing the street in front of his home on bay parkway near benson avenue when he was also hit. this time by a livery cab. he also died. the 21-year-old cab driver stayed on the scene, but he was arrested. he was charged with driving with a suspended license. back to you. >> kat, thank you very much. >>> right now the fbi is investigating a drone that flew over a new jersey refinery. the drone crashed into a passing crush outside the phillips 66 bayway refinery in inden yesterday. new jersey state police were called, but whoever was flying that drone was gone along with most of the pieces of the crashed aircraft. the problem is noncommercial drones are barely regulated by the faa. the only restrictions are that they cannot fly higher than 400 feet or within five miles of an airport, unless the tower is notified. >> it takes a long time

her classmate. 16-year-old emily benson says spaulding high school students are mourning her death. >> there' s definitely been a lot of mourning, a lot of people are getting more serious about drug addictions at our school. >> three people were arrested and accused of contributing to eve' s death including her mother 41-year-old jazzmyn rood. rood was charged with conspiracy to possess a controlled drug, reckless conduct and endangering the welfare of a child. >> the fact that it is the mother of the victim makes it even more disturbing to me. >> investigators say eve was staying at the motel with rood and her mom' s boyfriend 41-year-old mark ross who is also facing charges. toxicology tests released thursday show eve had ingested a substance thirty times more potent than heroin. >> fentanyl is causing overdose deaths across the granite state. and rochester police and the dea are committed to bringing justice to those who distribute this lethal drug. >> rochester schools superintendent michael hopkins says the district is planning new anti-drug events at spaulding high school to mak

i don't night experience e d it's just not the same," said amy benson. although some shoppers appreciate the extra shopping time. "i bet you a lot of people think it's nice. i kind of do. a lot of people get to come i guess because some people they don't get to leave that early sometimes they work," said jack schlosser. and then there's the late birds. "i always shop on christmas eve (laughing) because i think that's the best time. you're mind's really thinking....it's >> either way shoppers say it's a friends. while some will be shopping for deals today, others will opt out, and outdoors. it was a month ago that retailer be closed on black friday and encouraged americans to opt to go outside and enjoy the outdoors with family and friends. since then, nearly one million people have joined in on the idea. to make opting out more attractive, some national and stste parks across the n nion are offeriri special deals today, such as waiving entry fees. blbck friday is not just an american event any more. it's spreading to europe as well. but some in britain b

martha: joined by guy benson, political editor of townhall.com.ews contributor and former political advisor to former new jersey another frank lautenberg. good morning to both of you. julie, go to you first. basically if you're a woman it doesn't count if you're conservative. liberals are only interested in, sort of proclaiming the virtue of elevating women if they are liberals. >> well, i partially agree with her in the sense i think women are held to completely different standard than men are, especially when it comes to appearance. that goes for both sides of the aisle. certainly the women of "the view" should take back and apologize for what they said about her. no excuse for going after her looks. go after the policies that is different story. martha: no, julie, they are saying they went after her because she is conservative, which makes her fair game, that's what she is saying. >> she may be right they went after her because they don't agree with her policies. it places both sides. rush limbaugh calling hillary clinton the word that rivals w

i do not think -- i just think she is more vocal about it. >> it is guy benson.ndle on what hillary clinton's actual position here is. a while ago she was against heavy boots on the ground. then the president put in special forces and she supported him there. she said it would be a mistake just yesterday. even in the wake of an attack hereby isis. do you understand what she actually believes when it comes to boots on the ground when it comes to isis? >> quite frankly, i think that she is doing, and i think any reader of any nation looks to those that are top brass in their military. you know as well as i do that we can get right now 10 people that are former military that our generals, that are kernels. there will be disagreement among them. >> i understand that. she is running to be commander-in-chief. i am wondering what her mission is. >> i think she has been very clear with her position. it does not mean that we wage war on the ground. a civil war that many people feel is not a winnable situation. to put american and international troops on the ground. you ha

i worked for lloyd benson. we've done enough of this. elect me because i'm not a politician. i mean, you think about it. think about the absurdity of our campaigns. we elect people who tell us how little they know about politics, and they run on that platform, and we put them in, and then they prove that proposition. then we get angry because it doesn't work. then we gonna get another guy, you know, joe the plumber. i say that, i look at the republican primary, whether you think they were good or bad, think about this. the three largest states in the united states are larger than most countries. the governors of those three states, new york, florida, and texas, couldn't even get a blip in a field of 15 republicans. we're not playing verbal sparring here. this is serious business. - [evan] i guess, mr. ambassador - - we need serious candidates. - i guess, mr. ambassador, i was wondering not are you concerned about who might be the republican nominee because you're worried that they couldn't run the country. i'm more asking, are you worried that anybody that they nominate could

he beat gore but then sends bush because benson was more conservative than connolly's move and they got non- nation and there we go. so, president bush goes up to me with nixon. someone suggested the un to him and bush started thinking about this but when he goes goes into goes in to see nixon, nixon decided he wants to make him an assistant to the president working for bob haldeman. again, what's the second prize at this point? and so president bush makes the case he says you know, i think i could do more good for you at the un. nobody is up there making the case for you. nobody is supporting you and it was a brilliant tactical argument because nixon is looking at the son of bush with whom he serves in the vice president. a polished son, the ivy league son of a senator and thinking what he is saying is right. if he goes up there, he can make the case for me. having this figure is going to work for me in new york but that process happens after he sent haldeman and bush to find a white house office. right as watergate is breaking up and beginning to -- the story is beginning at this poin

neil: you always remember iconic images and i think of that debate you have lloyd benson and you were using your background because unlike a lot of these candidates, you did have a pretty long rÉsume and long experience and you properly ceased on john kenny, he's a friend of mine, how much did you resent that? how much today? i know it's been decades. do you resent that? >> it was well rehearsed. neil: he was ready. >> he was going to use it. you know, we -- i didn't know that he was going to use it. afterwards i found out how rehearsed it was, and it was a good line on his part. neil: did you -- >> but it was a good line on his part but it didn't matter in the end result, as a matter of fact, if you look at the debate itself and the substance of the debate, i think we did very well. we did very well because i talked about caucus, i talked about what kind of president so that he would be and, by the way, a number of polls said you won that debate. but you know what it reminded me of, vice president, that we remember lines from debates and now that i'm an experienced moderator as you k

black friday is the all night experience and it's just not the same," said amy benson. although some shoppers appreciate the extra shopping time. "i bet you a lot of people think it's nice. i kind of do. a lot of people get to come i guess because some people they don't get to leave that early sometimes they work," said jack schlosser. and then there's the late birds. always shop on christmas eve (laughg) because i think that's the best time. you're mind's really thinking....it's crunch time," said bryce engen. >> either way shoppers say it's a family and friends. sheila. was there anything you wanted to snag there tonight? (tommie adlib) thanks, , mmie. and, more people out shopping today. in sunrise, florida.. they weren't laying around in a food coma. they got out of the house in search of bargains this afternoon. but, in the washington, d.c. areaeahings got a little h hted today. a woman in the front of the line left. when she came back her chair was moved to the back of a short line. she wasn't happy. police tried to get her under control. she then assaulted one of

long, we'll be picking up the 2016 race with real clear politics, caitlyn burns and town haul guy benson, including this for the first time since july name other than trump to top a national poll. also tonight, a deepening mystery over the weekend a airline crashed in egypt that killed all 229 people aboard. company executives have ruled out technical or human error. but aviation officials say any conclusion at this point would be premature. u.s. officials say they're not ruling out terrorism. and liberal hollywood rushing to director clinton's defense over his anticop comments. >> i'm a human being with a conscious. and when i see murder, i cannot stand by. and i have to call the murder, the murdered, and i have to call the murderers, the murderers. >> i want to say this, you're a boss, you're absolutely amazing, keep speaking the truth and telling the truth and don't worry about none of the haters. i'm going to tell you that right now. lou: we take off the haters here tonight. the real haters those leading the war in police and our top story big changes could be coming to the republica

guess who is here, comedian jack mccandless and guy benson are back.my you are comic and you go on stage and tell jokes for living. are you surprised that she is not a lot more fun? >> the optics of this are terrible. they are trying to cultivate this issue that she is not cruella de vil and she is a attacking a called the laugh factory which really does look bad. i do want to say though that my conspiracy is that it wasn't her. i do believe it might have been dashed. >> this is the clinton campaign that i want to name but those comics. >> it might have been to make her look bad in the polls. that's my guess. kennedy: are most people in hollywood -- with advanced? >> is not voting voting for sanders. he is voting for hillary. kennedy: she has gone so far to the left side. >> all of the comedians were saying flattering jokes about how they wanted to be president with one silly caveat. it was private but that's not good enough for her. stalin, one of his top guys made fun of his mustache and he was off to the gulags. kennedy: you look a little bit like u

you've got the front runners, donald trump and benson with secret service names mogul and eli.scinating face off is happening lower in the polls. marco rubio and jeb bush are hitting each other hard. team rubio is already swinging back using bush's own word against him. we'll get to all of it at the top of the hour. see you then. >>> a woman in oklahoma apparently willing to do just about anything to avoid arrest. that includes ramming a police car. watch this. >> stop, stop. put your hands on your head. >> police releasing this dramatic video. you can see the suspect's car nearly running down the officer. here it is again. the officer managing to get a couple shots off before dodging the truck at the last second. she hit the police cruiser. the officer is not hurt. police also releasing video of her arrest. one officer climbing through the truck's sunroof to try and tase her. the woman faces a long list of charges including assault of a police officer with a deadly weapon. >>> back politics. the bigger issue is starting to come into focus. whoever wins the nomination will need

. >> jackie benson with that report. >>> turning to decision 2016, donald trump trying to clear up commentshe has made about muslims recently. trump suggested this week that he would create a data base to track muslims in america. last night on twitter he said a reporter suggested the idea, not him, but he does believe surveillance and a watch list are necessary. weighed in. >> this is a humanitarian crisis, there are many people genuinely in crisis, they should be reset ld in the middle east in majority muslim countries. >> we also have to be concerned even about our allies. there has to be a screening mechanism even for our friends. >> none of the candidates took direct aim at trump but they did criticize the infantile attacks in the campaign. coming um tomorrow on met the press chuck todd will take a closer look at how the presidential campaigns are reacting to the isis threats. that's tomorrow at 10:30 right after "news 4 today." >>> a prince georges county church wants your help to take guns off the streets good stood. the first baptist church is running a guns for gift cards program.

> most people only remember one thing about the 1998 vice presidential debate, what senator lloyd bensonaid when dan quayle compared his experience to jfk's. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> here's later in debate, al gore walked up to bush. >> al gore tries to come over and be the bully and get in his face. bush doesn't say anything. just looks at him, smiles, gives him the head wink, and goes on. >> i believe i can. >> that was it. it just -- you know, it just absolutely devastated gore. >> you watch him go. >> yeah. we all revert to our junior high mentality, you know, when our team scored. yeah, you know! >> most people don't know is that bush had been prepared. >> jud gregg, who had played the role of al gore in the debate prep, had seen him pull this trick. he said to bush, be prepared, he's going to come and get in your face. we all dismissed at the time, but sure enough it happened. >> which raises the question how do candidates prepared? these two debate coaches showed me. they prepped president bush for debate. o'donnell later coached mitt romney and michele bachmann. the

joining me now, guide benson, co-author of the bookend discussion. good to see you. >> hey, megyn. >> so none of these things tells us whether ben carson kpaj rated some facts in his memoirs. he may have done that. but each of the kpaexamples we' just gone through which is with the ones the media really hit him on, has seemed to fall apart in part or in whole. your thoughts? >> first of all, i'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that in this electoral cycle, we have a candidacy for the presidency that yes, in nakt, he did try to stab someone. trust me, i tried to stab someone. that's a presidential candidate. but i think that the exposition that you and your team just perform ds there is so worthwhile and so important. three major news outslets really took a stab, so to speak, at ben carson this week. and they came up empty. they either totally blew the scoop or they o mitted or didn't on earth relevant details that corroborated the broads arc. so this narrative seemed to take root in the media that ben carson is a serial fabulous. and the

jackie benson is on the scene and we'll push >>> now at 6:30 we're working on several big stories including a deadly hit and run at a busy intersection. why neighbors say something needs to be done before tragedy strikes here again. >>> a local police department is cutting overtime hours and now some homicide detectives are saying they're working for free so they can close some priority cases. >> first, a serial killer sentenced for three high-profile murders. the conviction of charles severance is bringing calm to a community that's been yearning for answers for more than ten years. mark segraves joins us live with reaction. mark? >> reporter: that's right, and you heard from the victims' families including the dunnings family who said that this verdict not only brings closure because their mother's killer is behind bars, but their father's name has now been cleared once and for all. >> during the trial of charles severance his defense attorney was allowed to tell the jurors that nancy dunning's husband, sheriff jim dunning had been considered a person of interest during the investigation

that guy benson is with us. i will ask the same question of god.pond to it more forcefully? >> silly question. i could not quite figure out what the context was just from the audio. if you have a campaign that has been floundering a little bit and you have to focus, baby talking about hypotheticals maybe not the best thing. i have no problems with guys taking weird questions and answering them when they're running for president. that is kind of the gig. here we are talking about jeb bush and baby hitler instead of his actual campaign. what he has to do to pull this thing together. right now he is in the low single digits. stuart: jeb bush does have a tax plan. i kind of like the tax plan. it is about lowering corporate tax rates. an interesting plan. if he does not get that out, put it on the table in a forceful and clear fashion, do you think that jeb bush is really out of it after tonight? >> he launched a failed attack on marco rubio. that really hurt him. here is the thing about jeb. obamacare replacement plan that is good. and entitlement refo

here to weigh in, guy benson, townhall.com political editor and steve camerota, center for immigrationes, director of research. chris hahn, former chuck schumer aide. good to see you. i have an immigrant wife. when we were watching together, when donald trump said that, she applauded. i suspect a lot of other legal immigrant had to jump through the hoops, believe me ins gives you a lot of hoops to jump through, but those that did it legally cheered on trump, do you agree? >> clearly. i know a uncle was a legal immigrant and there is a lot of work. the trump said, making that point grossly unfair to reward people here illegally while there are so many people who went through the hullabaloo and hoop law and low gist cal nightmare getting here legally. that is gross injustice. unfair. a fair point for him to make. melissa: on other hand -- david: on other hand his prescription for illegal immigrants is not possible. how do you it logistically, round up 11 million people to ship them back to their home country. >> what he gets right, is it fair to give amnesty to illegal immigrants. is it

he realizes what's going on, so he puts lloyd benson in the race.uddenly if you read the "dallas morning news" all the clips from that era, two things jump out at you. one is george h. w. bush is just one sexy guy. every star talks about how he had kennedy's glamour, the country club matrons swoon over him. just again and again, well, the papers all start writing now we have two tall were veterans who are pretty good looking who served in the house and a texas 1970 i don't have to tell the former governor the vantage was for the democrats. three loses the race. lloyd bentsen was more conservative. conley's move got lloyd bentsen the covenant -- the nomination or to redo. president bush goes up to meet with nixon. some suggested the u.n., charlie bartlett, old washington guide, and bush started thinking about this. when he goes in to see nixon, nixon has decided he wants to make it an assistant to the president working for bob holderman. again second price. at this point. and so president bush makes the case that he says i really think i can do more