leader who has spent over 40 years in politics, please welcome back to "the late show," senator bernie sanders! >> senator sanders: thank you. >> stephen: nice to see you again. thanks for being back. >> senator sanders: congratulations to be performing in front of human beings. >> stephen: i know. it's much better. it's much better than just shouting down a pipe. senator, you are invited of course as a senator to be at the speech tonight. >> senator sanders: i much prefer to be here. >> stephen: this is nicer? we're honored, obviously, but this is nicer than hanging out with your colleagues? >> senator sanders: yes, it i is. >> stephen: the state of the union is always important, obviously. the eyes of the nation are always on what the president, however it is at that time, is going it feels particularly powerful tonight to see biden describe in stark terms the fight between freedom and tyranny, the ongoing battle that is not theoretical at this point, between democracy and autocracy. what is the significance of tonight's state of the union, just talk about foreign policy in the wake of what'

all you need to do is go back seen these nuggets of bernie sanders. right when, when m. s. nbc producers and whistle blowers and m. s n b c came forward and admitted that they were told that they were not allowed to put bernie sanders on television right then even in their graphics, if they had on their screen when they showed who's the core, the candidates running for president. right now, it was interesting to see in, you know, andrew yang and other people removed from the graphic and they had comma harris on their to was pulling lower than bernie sanders. why? so she's pulling lower your bernie sanders who is winning, but you can't have him on the show. you can't do the man. i have to go to a hard break here. we're going to jump in here. we're going to go have a hard break. and after that hard, great, we'll continue our discussion state the pieces, the youngest as of today because there's a lot of censorship on many topics in schools that start to just the migration topic. to my impression, it went on this atomic change, gone back, it went on, send them a call. you see,

you have bernie sanders, who's winning, but you can't have him on the show. you can't do the man, i have to go to a hard break here. we're going to jump in here. we're going to go have a hard break late the pieces a x of today because there's a lot of that censorship on many topics in schools that start to just the migration topics. to my impression it went on this, the climate change, gone back and spent almost send them a call. you see it's, i mean, there was no, there was no way of debate. it was either or the s. and now it's about russia and it's about, yes, we have to fight russia and russia has to be taken off the map. the prospect where all the things are considered. i'm peter of eldest as a home addition to remind you, we're discussing some real news. the george in budapest here in the last new cycle, we had other senate rejects congressional powers over nato, article 5, and it was a vote of a losing 16 to 83. we entered the pro 1st part of the program, talking about the democratic process. now we're talking about drafting the constitution. is it some

all you need to do is go back seen these nuggets of bernie sanders . right when, when m. s. n b c produced theirs and whistle blowers and m. s. nbc came forward and admitted that they were told that they were not allowed to put bernie sanders on television right then even in their graphics that they had on their screen when they showed who's the core, the candidates running for president. right now, it was interesting to see in, you know, andrew yang and other people removed from the graphic and they had comma la harris on there who was pulling lower than bernie sanders. why? so she's pulling lower your bernie sanders who's winning, but you can't have him on the show. you can't do the man. i have to go to a hard break here. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go have a hard break. and after that hard, great, we'll continue our discussion state the more expensive and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do, do not watch my new shelf. seriously. why watch something that's so different little opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please do the have the s

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all you need to do is go back seen these nuggets of bernie sanders . right, when, when m. s n b c, producers and whistle blowers that emma sent, b. c came forward and admitted that they were told that they were not allowed to put bernie sanders on television right then even in their graphic. so if they had on their screen when they showed who's the poor, the candidates running for president right now, it was interesting to see in, you know, andrew yang and other people removed from the graphic and they had comma la harris on there who was pulling lower than bernie sanders. why? so she's pulling lower. your bernie sanders who's winning, but you can't have him on the show. you can't do the man. i have to go to a heart break here. we're going to jump in here. we're going to go have a hard break, and after that hard break will continue our discussion state the the the the the welcome back across stuff where all the things are considered. i'm peters. well, this is a home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. the all right, george in budapest, year, in the last

followtors vote for him joe biden basically made a secret deal with bernie sanders that he would carry her admiration for milton keynesian, there is no milton keynes, john may-around keynes milton friedman she bind two her favorite economist i think she is so ignorant not my favorite i am glad controversy about progressive voting for joe biden jsh he did do a deal with bernie sanders i think harder sell, in 2024. >> that is one of those answers that is so disingenuous, what is your biggest fault i am too nice. >> right. >> come on. >> aoc has a ton of followers definitely good brand uses social media very, very well we should not be asking elected official whether or not you've done home work, plenty of opportunities to show it to your constituents and american people with that many followers. maria: i love your example liz how did that home work work out the mix up economists sl any number of i occasions she stumbled because not very well educated frankly again she is ignorant, remember talking about, something, by the way, bernie sanders made same point i mixinged up revenues and --

and then there was a guy named donald trump, and then there was a guy named bernie sanders about bernie sanders blamed the birds and crashed trumpets the width is but a robert f kennedy is changing the way this campaign is being looked at a much to disagree and of the establishment and the media thoughts this week, my wife and i went to see about the kennedy junior at a event here which volleyball tea uh when he was just invited to the center for ethical culture because he of course, but were not i became an anti semite bobby can the juniors and that the somebody because he dared to suggest that there might be, believe it or not, they demographic or genetic component to different diseases like, oh, i don't know, tay sachs and then a sickle cell anyway. long story short. he had to redeem himself. he was uninvited, at the center of the go, called your were robert oppenheimer with the school. that's the, you know, she was moved a gentleman cuz it was a, a, it was one stock needs. coachella needs firing line people from app and here's the best part. every demographic, i've seen a little bab

but bernie sanders is burned. he said, you're so you're not kidding. but i saw in brooklyn on a very cold afternoon, a bunch of young people crying. they loved him and when he basically was hose. in fact, if he goes i'm, i will go to these young people and say, are you going to let them do that again to you? you are host by your, by hillary clinton. now you can do one of 2 things because he does come across a number he's 70 years old, and the other night i have, i had to jump in here way, but really bumping up against that time. let me in here. i want to take my guess in new york at north florida. i don't wanna think that'd be worse for watching us. here is the, the great news here on the see the running of committee a terror attack on the southern pull city of turn go 12, or at least 15 people were wounded in the midst south side. she did. the main thing is that russia in africa are united by and in the desire to defend genuine sovereignty. the right to their own original passive development in political because.

but bernie sanders is barney's that you're so you're not kidding. but i saw in brooklyn on a very cold afternoon, a bunch of young people crying. they loved him. and when he basically was housed, in fact, if he goes i'm, i will go to these young people and say, are you going to let them do that again to you? you are host by your, by hillary clinton. now you can do one of 2 things because he does come across member, he's 70 years old and frankly, no, i have, i have to jump in here. we're really bumping up against that time. let me in here. i want to take my guess in new york at north florida. i don't wanna think that'd be worse for watching us here. are to see you next time. remember, prospect was the, the, not just for the president of the russian federation who has invited us, but it's also a success for african countries because of russia is a winner. everyone is the winner. that's the head, all the applicant, media, and the delivers closing remarks that the adverse to advocate somebody in some pages long. so i'd like to meant to say that in the e

takeand joining now on booktv fm the tucson festival of books is senator bernie sanders of vermont. thank you. yeah, his most recent book is it's okay be angry about capitalism senator. what's your definition of capitalism. well, what this book is about is a nation which is moving to open capitalism where motivated by incredible greed, we now have more income and wealth inequality than we've had in the history of our country we have three people owning more wealth than the bottom half of american society in america. today, we have more of ownership. we're in sector after sector, agriculture, financial services, fewer and fewer huge corporations control what we purchase. we have a political system which is increasingly corrupt because as a result, citizens united, billionaires are now able to spend unlimited amounts of money buying and selling politicians and all of that. all we are moving toward an oligarchic form of society, something we have got to reject and to fight back against. so when when it comes to itself, are you an anti-capitalist. so if you want to go out, start a busin

it was bernie sanders. bernie sanders. bernie sanders.he party leaders said, come general election, a socialist cannot win the general. >> ainsley: when we were with ron desantis, we asked what was the difference with you and trump when it comes to policy? >> ainsley: what sets you apart from trump? so many policies seem similar. >> i give him credits, he's done a lot of good things. one, i'm more likely to beat biden, i think my record in florida shows that. two, i'm more likely to get all this stuff done. i'm former military officer. i'm disciplined. i'm focused. i don't worry about the side issues, a lot of stuff that happens on day-to-day basis is a distraction. i don't try to stir that up, i get the job done every single day. i am somebody able to serve two terms. >> steve: good point, donald trump served four years as president, if he gets elected, first day he sits behind the desk in the oval office, he's a lame duck, he can't run for re-election. >> brian: fascinated by that answer, he does not hate trump and trump does not hate r

so you ran a presidential campaign before bernie sanders.i -- i was really taken aback by the just very specific intent of this most, the most from trump which is to strike fear in the hearts of people who could potentially be detractors, investigators, or opponents, right? if you're a 2024 presidential candidate in this race, what do you do with an ad like that? like it's incumbent upon you to respond to it. >> i don't know that it is. i would argue trump has largely buried himself with a lot of independent and moderate and progressive people all across america. and he continues to dig holes. he is rallying and of course in this primary a bunch of intense people who like his alphaness. he swings at everybody, hipisses people off, and they get excited about that. if you're biden you're letting him mark his territory. go for it. if that's your 30, 40%, great. it ain't a majority in this country. and so you say i have a different ethical code. i don't get dragged down into nonsense and garbage like this. with that, what trump knows is there's

that saying the various different types of capitalism and socialism and, to my year, i think if bernie sanders and people who have similar political ideologies as mr. sanders, senator sanders, perhaps, the average american could digest the actual definition of a social democrat because it is emphasizing democrat. i think it should be changed to social democrat. >> i have no idea why bernie sanders does what he does or doesn't do. i agree i feel the phrase democratic-socialist is not helpful and think it is a shame he uses it but one of the things that is important to point out, we could have a long conversation about european social democracy in the different ways in which many metrics shows it works better in terms of health and well-being and happiness. the evidence is really clear and we talk about that toward the end of our book. but also, you don't have to go into social democracy. you can go into the history of this country. one thing i like to quote a lot is under dwight eisenhower who was a republican. the marginal tax rate on the wealthiest americans was 90%. that would be staggering

if you look at what bernie sanders did -- look at the impact on how we talked about college and collegeafford affordability. how we talk about length care. there needs to be that voice in this conversation. if cornell west will play any part in this, that's the voice that -- that's the lane that he occupies. to your point about the south carolina primary, what joe biden can do, since that's likely the first primary, is talk about tloes issues early, set the tone and hope that that carries into the general election. speaking on it once, letting it go, not addressing it again is a losing proposition. >> that's why you see so many more african american men bit by bit slowly moving to the right. at some point they are willing to consider alternatives because they feel as if their needs have been neglected. >> great to have you both in the studio. thank you. >>> next, it's been five days since cocaine was found inside the white house. why don't we know who was behind? this as the national security advisor weighs in on that investigation. >>> it was a tiny texas town until elon musk's space-x

joining me now to discuss this, former campaign manager and senior adviser to bernie sanders as welleat to see, you. alex >> you ran a presidential campaign before, bernie sanders i was really taken aback by the very specific intent of this post, free post from trump. which is to strike fear in the hearts of people who potentially be detractors, investigators, or -- if your 2024 presidential candidate in this race, what do you do with that. like it's come on -- to respond to that? >> i don't know if it is. i'm gonna argue the trump has largely buried himself with a lot of independent, moderate, i'm progressive people all across america. he continues to dig holes. he's rolling in the course of his primaries a bunch of intense people who like his alpha-ness, he swings at everybody, he pisses people off. they get excited about that. if you're biden, you're letting him marcus territory, go for it, that's your 30 40%, great. it's not the majority in this country. so, you say i have a different ethical code. i'm not gonna get dragged down into nonsense and garbage like this. with that, wha

but one out of 10 of those voted for bernie sanders. but it is a matter of policy and spirit. but how do you fight fascism? i don't think you can fight fascism. if you are in the democratic party, tied to the same militarism, and you have a caretaker that says i'm not the almighty but i'm all the alternative. this is what joe biden says. to fight fascism, you need a stronger vision, stronger passion and channeling all of the frustrations into a more all embracing project. right now too often you follow the neofascist pied piper, that is what tribe is. can't just be short-term because the short-term will never get out of the frick and frack and tweedledee tweedledum cycle. because when it comes to militarism and poor people, a whole host of issues, it is taboo. nobody wants to come to terms with it. nobody wants to come to terms with the military budget. in the end we've got to somehow make a break or disruption and it has to be done in such a way that citizens have a spiritual awakening and a moral reckoning of going more radically democrat and by that i mean allowing the voic

cbs news projects senator bernie sanders as the winner of the new hampshire primary. have joe biden, really, with no momentum, and goes into south carolina as a very wounded candidate. you know, the press is ready to declare people dead quickly. but we're alive, and we're coming back, and we're gonna win. [kristen] south carolina could be make or break for joe biden, who's leading here, and today getting a prominent endorsement from top democrat, congressman jim clyburn. we know joe. but most importantly, joe knows us. [abby] jim clyburn is the most important political figure in south carolina politics. that is a primary that is dominated by the power of black voters. i just want a regular person in the white house. so, when he did endorse joe biden, that changed the entire trajectory of the campaign for him. and it's rare in politics that we can say there was one factor that made all the difference. -this is a blowout. -yeah. for biden. there's no other way to describe it. it's not just a win, it's not just a double-digit margin. it's a, it's a blowout. i'm gonna bea

otherwise, you could not explain either bernie sanders or donald trump in self and why they did so wellause that was not the choice of a majority of corporate america, let's say. but it does mean you have excessive elite control of the mechanisms of american democracy. i think you could vastly reduce that control if you actually had serious campaign legislation. but again, given our polarization, that is something we are not able to get to. like i said, other democracies do this quite effectively and i think we could in theory do it as well. >> david, hope sound, florida, good afternoon. >> as always, thank you for c-span. francis fukuyama, good to speak to you again as i did in 20 on this program. my observation is, you talked about health care being one of the functions of the state. yet, every time this date has tried to expand its role in health care it seems like the people revolted against it. in 1965, we passed medicare. in 1968, richard nixon was elected president. in 2009, with obamacare, or the affordable care act as you call it, was passed. in 2010, son of a gun, the republic

. >> cheryl: a former bernie sanders staffer called out aoc saying endorsing joe biden now is betrayalrnie aoc are out of step. former press secretary, does not work for bernie sanders now, that was her response. somebody on twitter said, i hope aoc got a nice pay out for that. aoc is 33 years old. many in the younger generation want younger candidates and fresh faces. >> todd: you may find in in declub, unclear if that club will be in -- >> cheryl: it is fitty. i learned the hard way. >> todd: i was told, big discussion, i'm not allowed to call him fitty. >> cheryl: i was told i was saying it wrong, i used to say 50. fi fitty cent, posted this, the zero bail policy on instagram, l.a. is finish, watch how bad it gets out there. he is responding to the fact, for zero dollar bail, misdemeanor and nonviolent felonies, there is no bail. this is affecting los angeles, in particular. that policy ended in july of 2022, they brought it back and that is what the clip was that l.a. clip television clip. look. i was looking at this yellow county da study on los angeles and california, what does t

>> i think it is a person-to-person situation even as much as i'm not a bernie sanders fan in terms ofhat he comes up with, a lot sharper than biden even though he's older so i would say to be not a hard age limit but term limit feels reasonable and it agree as young people can be uncomfortable talking about this but when you look at the polling, older americans are more likely to believe there should be an age limit so maybe there's wisdom in agreeing with them on this. >> is not to make people feel about especially when you have elderly who are fine. you can disagree with donald trump and say his ideas people may say i'm crazy, but he's all there. bernie sanders as you laid out, he still has little, you may think his ideas aren't the correct ideals but he still moving along so is it a real age problem or just information problem with the american voters? i look at john fetterman for example, he's not an old man but the american people were robbed of what was going on at the t time. >> absolutely and i think there's a lot of situations where even biden's own supporters felt he was too

it was disputed then won new hampshire and they were staring down the barrel of the party as bernie sanders as a nominee. someone pulled the rip cord and said enough. it was like in the span of two days everyone dropped out and lined up behind biden is that was the end of it after south carolina they have the ability to do it, but they are sort of running out of time and the longer you have the president and vice president saying that they're running, the harder it gets to make a change. stuart: politics is fascinating, especially politics today. some people think it's toxic and i find it fascinating. >> it's both. stuart: yeah, both. next, climate czar john kerry firing back on claims that he uses a private jet. roll tape. >> i just don't agree with your facts, which began with the presentation of one of the most outrageously persistent lies that i hear, which is this private jet. we don't own a private jet, i don't own a private jet, i personally have never owned a private jet, and obviously it's pretty stupid to talk about coming from a private jet from the state department up here. hone

yes, bernie sanders. because nothing says, "i'm not old," like trotting out a guy one year older. "ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen. no, listen! i'm telling you, i am here to urge you to vote for that limber young whippersnapper, joe biden! turn down the be-bop, joe. stop doing the charleston, joe! there, i did your little speech. now, where's my soup?" but it might be hard to get voters to ignore the ravages of time. because according to cnn, voters bring up biden's age constantly in focus groups, using words like "brain dead," and "mush." come on. what are you doing? never say "mush" around an 80-year-old man! he'll just get hungry, and dinner's not till 3:00! but biden doesn't want anyone -- i'm just thinking about how much joe biden loves these jokes. that's what i'm thinking right now. but biden doesn't want anyone thinking he's too old for the job, which is why aides say his reaction to seeing news mentions of his age is to do a little jog in or out of his next public event, and that overall, "he doesn't want to be a grandpa. he wants to be a bro." "okay, here we g

disagree with everything bernie sanders -- he is older than joe biden.he capitol like he is on coke, and he is at least more specific when he talks. no, but... here's the thing. after donald trump was president, people were looking maybe for a little more comfort in the fact that you had an old tired puppet, and that was comforting to a lot of people but when you look for comfort you are sacrificing transparency, engagement. you know how many people come up to me, jessica, the first question, what is greg really like. second question, i tell him he isn't idiot. the second question, who is really running the country? no one has ever asked me that before until joe biden was president. i say, i don't know. i don't know. >> jeanine: all right kennedy, former disney chief katzenberg as part of biden's age is being a superpower, could you imagine this guy if he won reelection. what is he going to do in five years? >> kennedy: well, we might be eulogizing him, god forbid, but if you look at insurance actuary tables, that. what? i'm not hoping for it, hope he li

senator bernie sanders has taken a tough stand, threatening to hold up confirmations telling the "thei will oppose all nominations until we have a very clear strategy on the part of the government as to how we're going to lower the outrageously high cost of prescription drugs. now, today's announcement is part of the president's broader efforts of bidenomics. they say by giving more americans access to affordable health care9, it will help in that effort, but republicans like nikki haley is taking a hard aim at it. listen here. >> he should be clawing back the $500 billion of unspent covid collars. instead of 87,000 irs agents going after middle america, he should be going after the hundreds of billions in covid fraud. groceries and gas are still high. american families feel it. you can call it whatever you want, but it's not the american dream. >> reporter: president biden's remarks come at 3:30 this afternoon in the east room. we will see whether republicans have anything to say about it or senator bernie sanders, if he's happy with the results of this plan. my guess is though, ashl

fais shakir, political adviser to bernie sanders and stephen hayes, editor of the dispatch.come to sunday. it's "meet the press." >>> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. our democracy faces yet another stress test, one arguably it hasn't faced since reconstruction. an authoritarian minded, allowing for a peaceful transfer of power. the answer on that test was we barely passed it. donald trump put the nation again on a collision course between partisan politics and a rule of law. in a superseding case, special counsel jack smith accused the former president of a cover-up after the former president tried to get his staff to delete mar-a-lago security footage which was subpoenaed by the fbi. it charged trump with classified documents, specifically, a battle plan related to attacking iran which donald trump showed the two people helping mark meadows write a book. that took place at a meeting had the his bedminster golf club. in total trump now faces 70 felony counts betwee

i think they will do it to appease bernie sanders who says you should run on the economy, but i think on abortion and guns. >> that's a good impression of bernie sanders, by the way. >> thank you. >> i think the economy is a huge part of their message. they need something that tries to capture all of the many things that they've done including the infrastructure act and the inflation reduction act to get it under one big umbrella and white house will tell you it's not that they have to be all the way fixed and they just want it better, but that's a strong message that voters will be voting on. you will see vice president harris talking about voting rights and talking about the issues that we know they've been messaging on cultural, social things and that will be just as big a message for them. >> how would you be handling the economic messaging here because voters don't believe it. what would you be telling people in missouri? >> well, i think fundamentally voters do understand that we have very, very low unemployment, they see it in their families that everybody has jobs, everybody c

so bernie sanders is now very supportive of this president and he has been.ut i think the bigger issue other than no labels is cornell west and what is he going to do an owe the campaign trail. but again, a lot of questions about who is behind the funding behind these. and what does that ticket mean? is that joe manchin or larry hogan maybe. >> or some combination of the two. >> it is a worry for the white house and it will continue to be probably for the next year. >> and it is not just -- so there is the third party candat the realitile iy is there is a e for some otherptn and that seems to be strongerng democrats. look at this poll from nbc news. 45% of democrats would consider a third party candidate. only 34% of republicans say the same. >> that is one of big reasons why democrats are way more concerned about the potential for third party spoilers, whether it be cornell west, no labels or otherwise. because we know a lot of republican voters are all in for trump. they're not budging no matter what. so for democrats, it is a question mark. but like jeff m

at one time there was a gentleman named bertie -- bernie sanders running for mayor and he won by six votes. back then, i voted for ronald reagan. let's go back 50 years, then i am watching what is going on with ralph nader and jeb bush and catherine's parents and all of them. i did vote democrat back then. host: bring me to the question. caller: the question is, my point is that in 2000, because we had a third party candidate, i year over meter -- ralph nader , we are on the trajectory that we are on today that actually culminated in the january 6 debacle. host: let me take that up. guest: 2000 forward, what -- from 2000 forward, what should be see today? guest: the polarization we are expressing in this moment is a culmination of many trends that have been playing out really for 60 years and particularly accelerated over the last three decades. that is the sorting of our political parties. timothy is from vermont and this is a trivia question, but the state of vermont was the state in which there was eight senate seat held by republicans for the longest continuous period of any part

you know, this is why they were so critical against someone like bernie sanders because to bring him on the network and to hear him say, the billionaires are the problem. well, that doesn't sit well with the people who are on the board of the network. you know, so of course they're going to some your, someone like it, you know, it's interesting in the case of tucker, once again, he really played it. he played both sides against the middle because he knew foxes audience is very old and white and male. right? so the great for ponder and of foxes audience probably between 80 and 90 percent are white. a man's, um certainly white. uh and the males pretty high as well. right. so he knew that he had to play a certain argument for them. and that's why tucker, when it came to the traditional arguments from the right, which i'm sorry, tends to be a little on the anti immigrant side. pardon me, i'm an immigrant, but you're not gonna hear fox news advocating for the rights of latinos in the united states. or african americans for that matter. not a fairly pace better for me. place for that audie