bernie and bert are no longer alone. since discovering them researchers have been able to identify other cosmic neutrinos. the one with the most energy to dates they have named big bird. i think it was awful is that we're hoping to be able to identify the sources of these high energy neutrinos as soon as possible the big question is how is this cosmic radiation produced how is it exhilarated what are the cosmic accelerators that must exist i hope i don't have to spend the rest of my life researching just these questions but i definitely want answers to them sooner the better. downtown berlin location of the zeiss planetarium. this is one of europe's largest planetariums and the city administration is making it one of the most modern. the news of the extragalactic neutrinos fascinates the director. to show them in the planetarium dome the reopening would be sensational. planetarium director tim florian horton is a specialist in visualizing cosmic phenomena. using the most modern projection techniques he wants to make the

herbert, otherwise known as bert, snelling's life was also taken. he is a local contractor and he was in the building on friday afternoon trying to fill a permit when that shooting happened. today virginia beach's police chief is airing some more details about the difficulties facing law enforcement officers as they're struggling at this point to process that horrific scene. >> this is a large-scale crime scene. it is a horrific crime scene. please understand it takes not only physical, emotional and psychological toll on everyone who spent the night inside that particular building. the officers checked every room on every floor, every closet, under every desk, and they escorted a large number of city employees out of the building. remember, they're escorting them out of the building while the victims were still in the building. i want you to know those officers worked with compassion. they worked with caring. they worked with professionalism in assisting our brothers and sisters who work for our city. >> reporter: with us now is virginia beach mayo

this is bert shipp, bert, we have brought the people pretty much up to date.hour past us. and then i jumped into a police car and went to parkland. >> these two men come in and one of them had a large machine gun and was hollering for the stretchers and cots and everything. and they brought the governor in first. >> what happened next? >> then the president came in behind him and they took both of them back -- >> albert thomas, democrat of texas is standing outside the corridor of the emergency room said he's been told the president was still alive but in very critical condition. >> two priests who were with president kennedy say he is dead. >> of bullet wounds. this is the latest information we have from dallas. i will repeat with the greatest regret. two priests who were with president kennedy say he has died of bullet wounds. >> the assistant press secretary was filling in for the regular press secretary an he had to draw himself up to give the most fateful announcement that any press secretary might have ever had to give. >> all the cameras were rolling an

beach a short time ago and he talked about losing his personal friend herbert snelling, nicknamed bert, who was the contractor who just happened to be here getting -- renewing that license and renewing that permit when he was killed. take a listen to what the mayor had to say about losing his friend. >> a personal friend. he was -- he did a lot of carpentry work in my house. he was a contractor and he was in the building getting a permit. and i found out about it on social media about midnight last night and it rocked my foundation. >> reporter: that is mayor bobby dyer talking about losing his friend herbert bert snelling who was a contractor and known herbert for five years and he had done work on the mayor's home and he is heartbroken he has lost his friend. he knew many who worked in that building and the mayor of this town and knows so many people. for him you can see it in his face and hear it in his voice. he is really having a tough time pr processing this. we have to talk about what we learned what happened in a possible motive. police are not able to tell us what the motive w

. >> one nonemployee, bert snelling, was a friend of mine. one of the nicest guys you ever met. they not only are city employees hey're friends, they're neighbors, they're colleagues. they are virginia beach. >> that was nbc's ron allen reporting. stay with news 4 and our nbc washington app for continuing coverage on the virginibeach shooting. we're going to bring you new information on this tragedy tomorrow morning at news 4 today. we begin at 00 a.m. >>> new tonight, nearly a dozen d.c. residents are going to have to find someplace else to live after their home went up in flames this evening. take a look at the e ragingfern owe. the fire department eat tweeting out this picture as firefighters battled to take down the flames. the good news is everybody made it out safely but 11 people are now displaced. the red cross lending a hand here and we'r working to learn how the fire started. >>> a tow truck driver is shaken but otherwise okay after someone fed shots at them in langley park today. the driver was attempting to tow away a car and that's when gunfire could be heard on the

he defended not only our nation or nation's interests, but to speak a bert future for himself. the record reflects that private phones was poorly trained as an infantry man. history reveals that black soldiers of that era were poorly trained. though incomplete, he was deployed to korea, placed in an all black unit, company e, second battalion, 24th infantry ridgement of the 25th infantry division. president truman had ordered that unit integrated in 1948, but as of 1950 integration in the unit had not occurred. the black soldiers of the 24th infantry fought valiantly, but the north koreans and chinese were too fierce and greatly outnumbered our soldiers. the only african-american officer serving the 24th infantry was lieutenant leon gilbert of york, pennsylvania. lieutenant gilbert led his soldiers into fierce battles with the enemy near the 38th parallel. on 1 september 1950, recognizing that the 24th infantry was literally, literally on a suicide mission, lieutenant gilbert ordered his soldiers off of a deadly hill. the division's commanding officer directed lieutenant gilber

and the contractor there, bert snelling, was a personal friend of yours. >> yes, he was. he started off as a carpenter who worked at our house. he became a friend. we socialized. regrettably, i hadn't seen him in a little while but i found out on social media last night about midnight that he was one of the victims. and i was devastated. >> tell me about him, how did your contractor go to becoming a friend? >> i'll tell you what, he was just such a great guy. he was a consummate professional, did great work. but you know, when somebody is working and you get to know each other, we invited him out for a happy hour to join us and everything, then my wife, we met his wife and everything. and, you know, i tell you what, this really -- this really hits home with me. but also the -- but just seeing the other victims, you know, up on the screen and everything, it really humanizes the extent of the tragedy that happened in our great city. >> these aren't just individuals. these are mothers, fathers, cousins. >> friends. neighbors, colleagues. yes. >> especially in a community as

herbert "bert" snelling was a contractor trying to fill a permit. president trump just tweeted moments ago, offering his condolences to the victims of the shooting. he tweeted that he spoke to governor ralph northam about the shooting and offering federal resources to aid in the investigation. meantime, police are still working to answer so many unanswered questions. city officials choked back tears as they spoke earlier today. let's check in with cnn's brian todd from virginia beach who was at that press conference. this is so personal because we're talking about law enforcement is just meters away, just a few yards away from building 2 were all of this unfolded. and these are friends, these are co-workers, these are colleagues that they had to speak of. >> that's right, fredericka. and we got a real sense of that a short time ago. i spoke to the mayor of virginia beach, bobby dyer, who told us he lost a personal friend, herbert snelling, nicknamed "bert," and the mayor broke up while telling us about his friend. here is sound from that interview.

bert: your d.o.j.ources expect him to go to capitol hill even to he -- even though he wants this to be his final word. >> i think part of the message is that he will be a hostile witness. it's a question for the house democrats -- which is worse. robert: how does bill barr handlet? >> mueller has said he doesn't want to go. first of all, mueller is not a d.o.j. employer. barr can't make him do anything. it a conversation between mueller and nadler and some others in the house. and think the challenge for democrats is, do you want hostile witness or no witness? which is better/worse forhat you're trying to accomplish which is to keep public pressure on the president and give these investigations some oxygen and some fuel. one of -- one of the things that has been so annoying is that he says closed case but he doesn't give the kind of crisp answer that would say yes, you should impeach. which is the message that democrats heard but ts hat exactly he said. >> he's debating the attorney general about the m

bert frank is back to take us on a tour. >> when you step off theev elor, what is your first experiencematter. >> you're a getting exclusive look inside amazon ceo jeff bezos' brand-new penthouse. before the richest man in the world paid $80 million for this unit, plus the two apartments below, cnbc got an exclusive tour with broker nicky field. the sprawling 10,000 square foot penthouse alone has five bedrooms including a massive, seven-roomsu master e. >> the master bathroom has a priceless view of the empire state building from the master tub. >> when we toured it, the master was furnished with a $5,000 bentley dog bed. one level up is the sunlit lounge. just pastss the $23,000 gla foose ball table is a 5,000 squareoot wrap around terrace and the third level revealed another lounge, plus even more outdoor space. >> this is what we refer to as view envy. for "nightly business report," i'm robert frank. >> before we go, let's take a look at fil day's numbers onst wall et, the nasdaq was up 48 and the s&p 500 added 22. that isin nightly bs report for tonight. i'm sue herera. thanks for

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he certainly seemed spurred to a bert performance in this one. quinn cook couldn't hit a 3.5 in game three. what were the performances -- we're used to the splash brothers, that were able to close this one out? >> mindy, demarcus cousins played. the fact he did what he did after kevin came out, he's one of those guys who has been close to kevin all along. that was one of the reasons he came to the warriors. for him to produce in that moment was gigantic. for quinn cook who missed a ton of shots in game four to play like he did just was a reminder of when you get other pieces and everybody rallies together, and then you have the greatness of lean on, this team can be really special. it was so interesting because as sad as everybody was, i watched rick wells, walk out, the warriors team president, and there was such a confidence within this group. he looked at a couple of associates and he said, enjoy your flight. there was a pause. he said, and enjoy the next one. so the wholeheartedly, they believe that they're going to be back here in a few days. >> all right. so, larry, th

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bert snelling.the kind of man you hope moves next door. >> one of the most friendly, genuine human beings i ever met. >> reporter: rich nettleton. katherine nixon, her friends say she was a ray of sunlight, selfless, smart, most of all, a loving mother of three young children. joshua hardy. christopher rapp. tara gallagher, a mother of a brand new baby boy. >> a wonderful engineer, who didn't deserve this. none of them deserved any of this. i'm so sorry for the families. >> reporter: bobby williams. and keith cox, telling his colleagues to hide in an office and barricade the door, as he walked back into the hallway to check on others as the shooter made his way from floor to floor. keith lost his life trying to save his colleagues. >> i keep remembering his smile, his stature, how much of a gentleman he was. >> reporter: 12 lives taken by another senseless act of gun violence. stephanie ramos, abc news. >> none of them deserved any of this. stephanie ramos for us tonight. i'm tom llamas in new york.

first of all the issue about what m15 knew about one of the ringleaders of the attack, curran bert.somebody who might plan an attack on the uk —— khuram butt. they had watched him for two years and monitored him intensely for two years but somehow he was able to plan this attack almost under their noses. the relatives, the bereaved relatives, are very angry about that but we don't know whether the coroner will feel it's something that's appropriate for him to comment on or criticise. the other key issue that he could address this afternoon as theissue he could address this afternoon as the issue of barriers on the bridge to protect pedestrians. two and half months after the westminster bridge attack there were no barriers on london bridge and the families are hoping that he may have something to say about that and about the potential failures by the authorities to address that issue. it is expected to end about four o'clock or five o'clock this afternoon. daniel sandford, thank you, at the old bailey. jeremy hunt has urged his conservative leadership rival borisjohnson to "be straig

it seems illegal aliens have more legal rights than americans do you are bert off -- there was a reporthat illegal immigrant don't have to use the same documentation to get on an airline as citizens do. >> it's outrageous. my old buddy deroy is spot-on. if it was a white male trump supporter -- this is outrageous what they are doing. it shows the moral bankruptcy of the progressive movement and progressive thought. it was the court officer involved in this criminal conspiracy to obstruct this. david: she is facing 20 years in jail. there may have been disgraceful behavior leading up to this. this shows what the sanctuary city move many is all about. he had an outstanding warrant for judge and drunk driving. it's literally worse than that. that's why hundreds of thousands of people are coming here. it's a free ride once they are here. >> it's a free ride for these people. sanctuary is a positive, warm connotations. they are fugitives from justice. and the attitude is we feel sorry for you so we'll protect you and shield you. this includes people who have been engaged in rape and homicide

variable extragalactic neutrinos to be identified for the 1st time the particles dubbed ernie and bert are mega stars of astrophysics. you haven't committed to complete discovering these cosmic neutrinos we have opened a new window however we haven't opened it fully just a crack we know there's something there but we haven't mapped this new landscape yet that cup of coffee yet. to me it's not near for me as we find more of these particles and trace them to definite sources it'll be like a mosaic coming together in 6. bits and someone can then we'll be able to say how the source is really function is how the wild is machines in the cosmos work through. venice and to give there are highly developed civilizations in the cosmos perhaps they don't want to be spied on by underdeveloped civilizations like ours it's really that's true on the. maybe they decide not to use electromagnetic waves to communicate but something quite different. for instance neutrinos that has just imagine one day we'd see a kind of morse code from extraterrestrial civilizations in neutrinos. the. strong. smell of gas

it showed the world the up much is the bigger, bert and more rational country. the president need to stay the course. be ready if need be. but also remain open to rational discussion. i guarantee that if and when the iranians are willing to sit down and talk, this president will be here. joining me for reaction, retired main general scales. i am always struck by you guys. some might say the military background, you are eager for this kind of conflict. but i found that you, sir, and many others are anything but that. and you tend to approach it knowing what the cast, the real cost would be. so there are a hot con sshes we could get ourselves town a prolonged conflict with iran. do you think the president made the right decision in standing down? >> i have seen war. and i know exactly what war is all about. it's not about, you know, video images of explosion in some distant place. when you are on the receiving end of those explosions it's an entirely different picture. if you are going to attack someone, if you think you have a purpose to attack someone, it should

my name is bert hill. [inaudible] this is very timely, last monday night, we met new captain, luke martin, really impressed with him, he did a great job. one of the things we talked about was the staffing of traffic, in detail with it. we heard the staff went from 100 down to 80 and where it is now. encouraging the board of supervisors on the mayor to support in their planning. an increase in traffic, it seems the correlation is not causation, but the recent increases relate inversely to the declining number of officers in enforcement. two other comments real quickly. as far as the first five, one of the main thing that happens that causes collisions, his failure to signal. the police department shows very few statistics on siding people for failure to signal. this is a preventative measure that would eliminate a lot of the collisions if bicyclists and pedestrians saw someone signaling it would be very easy to do that yet we see no action on it. we would like to encourage being considered part of the first

this is bert brandt who we saw earlier shooting for ap. ahns and cons -- cecil k 25 years hassh, done a lot to my memory. the troops begin to move in the opposite direction to attack the enemy on the same low line. we were passing through the city of valone, and it was completely destroyed. i was there several times since the war in it has been rebuilt beautifully. but the germans tried to make a stand here and wherever they did try to make a stand we had to knock them out. in so doing, destroyed the city. a little later on i had an opportunity to see the construction built by slave labor. especiallyhe beach, in the normandy area and other areas, they built these triangles. mines attachedad to them so if a boat touched them they would explode. i was told after taking this walk that i should be very careful not to step where the ground is soft. was as a church that pretty little town that the germans evacuated because the commander liked the city so much that he did not want to see it destroyed. and actually withdrew rather than let it be d

it's simply bert than humans when it comes to catching potential threats. >> the difference is the ait tired. they don't fatigue and don't have bias. and continue to learn time and time again. >> he insist the system won't take away human jobs. it frees up officers to perform other jobs like interacting with people to preempt threats. >> a set back for sam sung and the foldable smart phone. it was set for release april 26. then technical issues pushed the date back. and reviewers complained the screen was broken. it's cancelling all preorders for the phone. at least until they set a new launch date. anyone who preordered should get a cancellation e-mail. >> bringing it to life. you can book the trip around the world in 80 days starting june 20. including everything from visiting the island to hiking in australia. and transportation for the journey. including a hot air balloon. it will set you back five grand. get yourself to london where the trip begins. >> up next. eye opening admission by the president. the comments that even baffled his fellow republicans. >> the long legal fight o

i'll bert repog live from miami as 20 democrats clash over the course of two nights. dnu can look for my report starting next wday and watch the debate right here on nbc 4, wednesday and thursday nights at 9:00. >>> alost five minutes after the hour. let's switchgears and getack to the weather. we've been in this pattern for a couple days here. >> in and out of the rain all day. i wanto know how much rain we're going to get, when it's going to be getting it's going to be gone. i have some other questions i'd like to throw at you. >> come on, i'll run them back to you. let's do this. >> is llet's start with those t now. >> we have a few showers out there right now, sun is trying to breakthrough. really tryi hard to breakthrough across the areas. we will eventually see a little sunshine here and there today. i think a lot of us are going to be stuck in the c auds for good portion of the day. 79 degrees temperature right now, as we get into the noon hour, we'll take it up a bit. we topped out in the upper 80s i really don't think we'll have a severe chance out there toda

another thing that berted me was children normalizing shootouts. i got to school another day, and kids are grabbing we my he hand and going, look there, was a shootout last night, point thing at the bullet holes in the wall of their school, laughing. we're expecting these children to come from traumatic experiences at home and we're expecting them to good to school and learn and it's just not fair. we can't give up on our kids and i think that's where it starts. think we implement mental illness or mental health as education in school and needs to be a subject. it's like sex education was, physical education, we need to talk about it. the more we talk about it this, more people will feel like they can talk about it. i really don't know how to fix this problem. i just know that this suicide rate is rising. i just know that the ages of the children that are committing suicide are getting younger and younger. i just -- breaks my heart to know that five-year-old children are contemplating life and death. i just -- sorry. that one is tough for me. so i'

you think a few panels for three-hour hearings inside the congress are going to do bert than bob mueller? i heard you and liberals for saying just wait for mueller report to come out. he is a good investigator. he found nothing. so what, jerry nadler. >> he did find something. he said i'm not going to go this way or that way. >> nothing illegal. >> he said this is what the real facts are. i will not determine. >> and he handed it to congress and nancy pelosi thinks there is such an iron clad case that she is talking about locking him up instead of moving in impeachment hearings. if they had a close and shut case it seems they might move with it. thank you very much for the spirited debate this evening. next breaking new details from washington tonight where moments ago a deal was struck with mexico to stop the illegal invasion of illegal immigrants at our southern border to avoid new tariffs come monday. >> president trump: they send in illegal drugs, $500 billion. 100,000 people are killed, dead, every year from what comes through our southern border. they shouldn't be allowing people t

my name is bert hill. [inaudible] this is very timely, last monday night, we met new captain, luke martin, really impressed with him, he did a great job. one of the things we talked about was the staffing of traffic, in detail with it. we heard the staff went from 100 down to 80 and where it is now. encouraging the board of supervisors on the mayor to support in their planning. an increase in traffic, it seems

herbert bert snelling, who was a contractor trying to fill a permit, and is a resident of virginia beachwe stop her and take a pause i'm going ask my chief of police to come forth and talk about that 13th person. chief? >> an update where we are onhe investigative process. first of all, our investigators, ar detectives, forensic technicians worked through the entire night processing our scene and with dignity and of the in removing all victims in this particular case. medical examiner's office will take over theirart of the investigation, and that should take the next 48 hours while they work through it. they are bringing in additional resources from richmond. during the investigative process, we were assisted by the federal bureau of investigation. they have 40 members of their investigative forensic task force from quantico and other places throughout virginia assist us in this particular case. this is a large-scale crime scene. it's a horrific crime scene please understand it takes not only physical, emotional andps hological toll on everyone who spent the night inside that particular

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i knew your brother, bert, he perished in world war ii as well.y saw the service of two sons. we thank you very much, vito. thank you, and god bless you. >> thank you, ma'am. thank you very much. bye-bye. >> harris: bye-bye. vito is in a category of americans all their own, as we know. his generation is leaving us through an unstoppable fact of life -- the aging process. the u.s. apartment to veterans affairs says 16 million americans served in world war i world war ii. we lose 348 of them every day. in their 90s and 100s, we are blessed with fewer than a half-million among us. god bless them, god bless america. i'll be right back. i felt i couldn't be at my best wifor my family. c, in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured and left those doubts behind. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. even hanging with friends i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all common types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if

and i do think that she talks bert than the democrats. she listens better than the democrats.difference in her being in the living rooms and talking to people. and not having to figure out the donors. that can get in their head. not always. i think warren she is getting through. she's cutting through. >> the most exciting thing about her is that she really articulates a post trump progressive america. and it is it's just such a relief. to imagine a post trump america. and with some of the other candidates i hear bits and pieces of policy that i like. things i'm excited about. background and bios. she says this is where i want to go as a country. i get the seasonse she has a pl. >> we have heard over the months that warren is frightening to the center. center democrats and business oriented democrats. and so on. do you think she is -- softened that resistance tonight? sanders is atalking her now as a corporate democrats. >> listen, projob. warren is gone up in people oos eyes last couple months. i'm very impressed with her policy positions. she's people want answers to the ques

friends say "bert was courageous, kind anhe loved his wife and jesus deeply."ryaton keith cox loveing in church and is credited with saving lives in the building. heche's how his co-workesti dewar described what he did. >> seven of us were going to go ou the break room door and keith was standing there and he said stop get up against the wall be quiet be still. get in lori's office w barricade the office get in there and i said come on keith and he said i got to check on everybodelse. >> nawaz: christopher rapp was an engineer with virginia beach's public utilities department. he enjoyed scottish music and joined a pipe band last fall called tidewatepipes and drums. banchd members wrote thats was reserved but very friendly, quietly engaging members one-on- one after our weekly practices." richard nettleton was with the public utilities department f over 28 years and also served as a lieutenant in the united states army's 130th engineer brigade in germany. a friend told local reporters "he was a big red sox fan... we couldn't have a conversation without having a

darrell roman bert iii, dionke ayton, anthony luis loriano, john carlos mendez perez, luis martinez n, amanda, enitez torres, jerald arthur wright, corey james connel, rodolfo,, luis fernandez, leroy jason benjamin josefat, frank rnandez, akira murphy, mercedes, gilberto menendez, imon fernandez, oscar a. montero, enrique rios, miguel angel, juan p. rivera velazquez, juan chavez martinez, tevin eugene crosby, jonathan vega, christopher paul henry, liz, oel manuel, john c. nieves padro, z, ilmary, angel antonio brown, alejandro martinez. just think about how long it took me just to reference all those names and it gives you just a glimpse of the carnage and the death that happened that day, but we will always remember them. r. speaker, there is something rotten in the city of washington. there is an injustice brewing in this capitol, and there is a sinister plot of foot in this congress. on the one hand, we have the people's house, the house of representatives where we are working every day in passing major legislation, our for the people agenda, and on the senate side, we see somethin

. >> people say, jim, i know you are enamored with this guy gill bert the quicken loans, they do no docoans. i say that's completely untrue. >> absolutely. as you probably know, we sidestep the crisis of decadent -- we focus on conformi conforming conventional loans. that allowed us to make the investment in technology coming out of the recession that i think others weren't able to do and gave us at the stability to be the largest lender in the country. we stay on that path we are thinking about the quality of the loan. we can watch how our loans are performing that guides us in every decision that we are making. >> i am acutely aware that whatever rules you follow could be tightened if a democrat wins the -- senator warren is not really a friend of the bake. i know senator warren. there are levels of reasonableable that could be occurring. does someone in your position have to be concerned we could reregulate again if some of the democrats who are running now in the white house? >> i think regulation focused the right way is important what you -- you know this better than anybody when

hole bert claims he died when the two got on a fight on a boat.raid to go to authorities, holbert came up with his own solution to get rid of the body. >> i took it home and buried it. and then i built a picnic area over it. it's horrible and stupid. but i never had been in that situation before. i didn't know what to do. >> in the interview, holbert i never tried to paint myself as a good guy. i'm a bad guy. i'm getting what i deserve. >> there is nothing i can say. i am sorry. >> he says he is sorry for what he's done and does he shed tears. but not for the victims, for his wife, laura who he says is innocent. >> if she was sitting here, i would tell her i'm sorry she ever met me. because she didn't deserve this. if i could give my life to set her free, i would. that's it. >> and the man who said he killed six people, now has time to sit in a cell and think about his own death. holbert and his wife have received threats in prison. >> there's a guard in this jail that brings me a cell phone and gives me death threats from these people. i'm a dead

. >> herbert bert snelling, who was a contractor trying to fill a permit and he's a resident of virginia beach. >> we want you to know who they were so when the days and weeks to come, you will learn what they meant to all of us. >> some tough moments within the last 24 hours for folks there in virginia beach. we are going to begin with the breaking news out of that area. city known for the big beaches and numerous universities and historic sites is making history, the sort of history no community wants to be a part of. officials have now identified the 12 people whose lives were cut short by that senseless act of violence. at a government building on friday. all but one of the victims employed by the city. right now at least three victims who were injured remain in the hospital in serious condition. the gunman also a city employee is dead following a lengthy shootout with police. his name only spoken once. instead putting the focus on the innocent victims who are gone and in the next hour, another press conference is scheduled to take place. we start now with msnbc david gura on the gro

herbert "bert" snelling who was a contractor trying to fill a permit and is a resident of virginia beach>> we can tell you we knee at least there was at least one person shot out in the parking lot. otherwise, all three floors, officers say there were shots fired on all three floors. as for those victims, in addition to the 12 who lost their lives, four are still in the hospital, three of them in critical condition. we did get an update on them just yesterday from the doctors' office and at the hospital and i want to share that with you now. >> they are all serious injuries in the sense that they were gunshot wounds which are never minor, okay? so as i said, two have been taken to the operating room to get injuries repaired. one is probably more fortunate and we hope that patient will have a full recovery but that is not clear at this very second but did not require urgent or operations to repair injuries he has gotten. in a sense very, very lucky with all of this but he got lucky and the injury was -- i mean, not to exaggerate but if the injury was a little further over, he probably wou

sense if we did away with racist policy, and replace it with neutral policy, everything would get bert on its own. what we're fining is systemic racism is intractable than that. certainly for us running for president it's incumbent to have an explanation what we're going to do proactive live and with intention to reverse racial inequity. it makes sense for it to be front and center. this president put it front and center by practicing a kind of white identity politics out of the white house. and if that's it took for some of the issues to get more prominence in the national spotlight than before. that's a healthy thing. >> it will tear us apart. and do you think you came to that -- have you when did you come to that realizization? has this been an awakening for you. >> somebody not from a community of color. but with the issues in the context of leading a diverse community and now presidential politics. you learn every day. i have had to learn a lot about this the hard way. not in the same way somebody who is impacted by racism personally does. but somebody who is trying to hold togeth

bert snelling was also killed on friday. a contractor, he was in the building to get a permit. president trump sending a message to this grieving community earlier in a tweet which reads spoke to virginia governor northam and mayor and vice mayor of virginia beach. to offer condolences to that great community. the federal government is there and will be for whatever they may need. workers were found trying to hide in their offices. >> we were terrified. it almost felt like it wasn't real. that we were in a dream. you hear this all the time in the news you that don't think it's ever going to happen to you. then when it actually happens, it's almost like an out of body experience. you've just terrified because all you can hear are the gunshots. >> we heard it downstairs. and we go to the corridor there was a lady on the stairs, unconscious. blood all over the stairway, we didn't even know what happened. when they went upstairs, she came back out saying get out of the building, somebody has been shot. at that point, we all left. >> we heard shooting. we heard shooting, but we didn

hecl "bert" snelling who was a contractor trying to fill a permit and is a resident of virginia beach the 12 victims there, 11 of them public employees, just like the shooter himself. we can tell you four others were injured and they remain in the hospital this morning. three of them in critical condition. the city, itself, will be holding a memorial on thursday evening. we can tell you a number of vigils have been popping up at various churches starting yesterday morning, we saw some. a little bit friday night, there was also talk of more on saturday evening. president trump has ordered flags at half-staff through friday. i spoke with mayor bobby dyer yesterday who, once again, stressed the resiliency and resolve of this community. >> since i've been mayor for a little over six months and -- for 14 years, i see out in the community the willingness of people to always help their neighbors and get along and we have a very strong military, you know, presence here. the military is part of our dna here, you mow? and, you know, we got a city to be proud of and the other thing, too, we are

probably claire can answer that bert than me. >> senator, someone who has been in the arena of the u.s. senate, i noticed the copious notes you were taking. >> yeah, i think overall i was surprised how little there was a discussion of the mess in the white house right now. i was shocked that more candidates didn't tie their policies into the ineptitude, the chaos. it was surprising to me. i think most democrats, while they want to hear policy and they want to get to knows these candidates, they also want to be reassured that we are united, those candidates are united in terms of donald trump. that surprised me a little. i thought the folks on the end did their best to elbow in to every discussion they could. i found it mildly irritating at times. >> yes. >> maybe it's just de blasio's mildly irritating to me, i'm not sure. >> yeah. >> or maybe more than mildly irritating to me. >> you seem pretty irritated. >> i had the same reaction. i think it might break down along -- he sounded to me like an obnoxious guy at a restaurant or bar talking on his cell phone like everyone wanted to hear