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voted "best investment services company." >>> in florida, jury selection has begun in the trial of george zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the death of 17-year-old trayvon martin back in 2012. as you remember, zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer, says he shot the unarmed teenager in self-defense. there's a jury pool of 500 people. attorneys started questioning some of them today, and in the end, six jurors and at least two alternates will be chosen to decide zimmerman's fate. martin savidge is joining from us florida. four potential jurors were questioned today. what do we know? what questions were asked? >> we don't know a lot because of course their identities are secret for the time being. we know of the four, three were women. one appears to be a minority. the fourth person is a retired white man. we know that two of the women talked about having children and we also know that two of the women talked about working overnight jobs. beyond that, we don't know a lot. we do know the questions were primarily focused on how much media exposure had they received about

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voted "best investment services company." >> the senate passes the immigration bill, but it does nothingut student loans. cnbc's seema mody has those stories for us and more. good evening, seema. >> good evening, larry, by a vote of 68 to 32 the senate passed the so-called gang of eight immigration bill. 14 republicans voted for it. the vote would legalize millions of immigrants who are currently here illegally and increase border security and don't expect house republicans to go along with it. they have their own bills and have voiced opposition to the senate version. a deal to keep student loan rates steady fell apart in the senate. the deadline is monday. if nothing gets done before then, rates for federally-backed loans could double. there are several options on the table including a proposal from senator john manchin. his plan to is to tie rates to the ten-year note, plus one percentage point and the commodity futures trading commission is suing jon corzine. the cftc wants to ban corzine from trading in the futures market and make him pay an unpress spied penalty. corzine failed to

voted "best investment services company." heard the comparison himself.national security policies are virtually the same as those of the bush/cheney years. and so on this point, the president has decided to correct the record. >> we ended enhanced interrogation techniques. we ended some of the detention policies that violated our values. some people say obama was this raving liberal before. now he's dick cheney. dick cheney says he took it all lock stock and barrel. my concern has always been not that we shouldn't do intelligence gathering to prevent terrorism but rather are we setting up a systems of checks and balances. >> indeed. at today's hearing on intelligence gathering, the director of the nsa pushed back at the general criticism of the program. he will not only repeated the claim of the fbi director last week that these surveillance programs might have prevented 9/11 but that they continue to foil potential attacks to this day. >> these programs together with other intelligence have protected the u.s. and our allies from terrorist threats across

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voted "best investment services company." >>> violent protests continue in brazil as a million demonstrators stormed the streets and cities across the country. nbc's miguel almaguer is there and filed this report. >> reporter: mandy and brian, a relatively calm day on the streets of brazil after a wild night overnight. some 1 million protesters took to the streets across this country in clashes with police that were violent and in one case deadly. here in rio de janiero, some 3,000 protesters took to the streets and squared off with officers who lobbied tear gas at them. meanwhile a few hours away from here near the city of sao paulo, one protesters was killed when he was rammed by a car. the protesters across the country are demanding an end to high taxes and asking for better government services, everything from housing, to education, to security. as you know, rio is getting set to take the world stage next month hosting the pope and next year hosting the world cup and in 2016 hosting the olympic games. folks in this country are upset because the country has spent $26 billion just to prepa

voted "best investment services company." >>> taper talk is on the tip of everybody's tongues so in aked top strategist, money managers, when should the fed begin tapering as in tightening? before friday's job report the feds -- they said the feds should begin tapering in november, but after friday's job report, respondents said the fed should wait to take their foot off the pedal until january of next year. wasn't that great a report. my own view briefly, given the anemic recovery in jobs and elsewhere the slow growth of the money supply, the fed should not taper until well into next year. we don't want a double-dip recession here the way europe has one over there because their central bank is way too tight. a hat tip to my pal jim petrocukies who wrote a very good article. back to our panel. congressman kevin brady, i don't like the idea of the fed trying to manipulate interest rates, but i'll say this. we need to grow the money supply faster and grow nominal gdp faster. europe hasn't done it. they have actually are sinking their money supply and they are double dipping. they have h

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voted "best investment services company." >>> is the dividend heyday over?ake a look at this data. back in april 60% of s&p dividend-paying stocks yielded more than the ten-year treasury, but now that number is only 36%. joining us now is paul hickee for spoke investment group co-founder. what's this going to do to all that, yes, i'm going to load up on dividend -- paying stocks which was the mantra we used to hear all the time here on cnbc. >> when you look at the difficult dents. oau finding a lot of interest rates out there. why did i buy this stock again? yielding 2% and i don't know anything about the company. dividends are certainly an important ingredient, but you have to broaden your forecast. as interest rates rise, you know, the dividend component of the stock is going to become less and less mink meaningful to an investment desgligs paul, we're talk pentagon 2% when you can get on the other 36% another 2% or thereabouts. some stocks are taking a hit because. market but if their performance at some points does well, they have gone down like the ove

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voted "best investment services company." >>> welcome back to the halftime report. i'm josh lipton. the precious metals. silver down some 9% today. gold hitting its lowest level since september 2010. now down some 30% from its recent high in october. in terms of levels to watch, we spoked with mark newton, near term newton thinks we get to $1,240. says though he would be buying at that level in part because we're entering he says what is a seasonally bullish time for gold. scott, back to you. >> you have some of the firms on the street taking down their one-month and full-year forecasts now on gold. >> we've been consistent on this show talking about a bearish gold price. and it's going to continue. this is not a trade. this is an investment. the marginal buyer for gold used to be the emerging markets. they've got their own worries right now. they're not there to support it. gold is going down. >> you see the miners and some of the reaction out of china. it's a tough space to be in. >> there's a lot of low conviction money that's been herded into these gold vehicles whether it's gdx