billing. catherine, thank you. we're speaking with an est with the blower bill benny and his wife catherine about havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. we're going to take a short break, but stay with us. we're going to get into what the us government may be planning in the way of new weapons for future battlefields and how those weapons are tested. but more importantly, we'll talk to bill about his own experience with these weapons. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the the, [000:00:00;00] the the welcome back to the list of lawyers. i'm john kerry, onto were speaking with famed and a say was a blower. bill benny bill was one of the leading technological mines in the american government before becoming one of the most important whistle blowers in recent history. today we're joined by him and by his wife doctor katherine horton, a former high energy physicists and research fellow at the university of oxford to discuss havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. good to have you both with us . bill. i know that you've been suffering with symptoms consistent with advantage syndrome. we're told studies conducted by different governmental entities, found the initial phase is a result of a sonic disturbance and 15 percent of people who show havana. so syndrome symptoms also show a disruption in brain activity and eventually traumatic brain injury. what's your experience been like? well m

bill benny bill was one of the leading technological mines in the american government before becoming one of the most important whistle blowers and recent history. today we're joined by him and by his wife, dr. catherine horton. a former high energy physicists and research fellow at the university of oxford to discuss havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. good to have you both with us. bill. i know that you've been suffering with symptoms. consistent with advantage syndrome. we're told studies conducted by different governmental entities, found the initial phase is a result of a sonic disturbance and 15 percent of people who show havana. so syndrome symptoms also show a disruption in brain activity and eventually traumatic brain injury. what's your experience been like as well? mine, i don't think is a uh, so have in a syndrome type is like, uh, implants, because i've got, and i'm being treated for paying for it but, and the, the physician has never seen anything like this, but it's like 4 points on each of my legs. in a parallel position on both legs, in the pain, sometimes just alternates back and forth between those 4 points. i mean is a point pain. i can put a finger on it on each of the $8.00 on each leg. and that's where the pain is coming from. and then i have an x ray that shows something in that there's something in there. i've been trying to get somebody to tak