that is where we began our conversation when i met with bill browder in new york. >> you come from a family where your grandfather wasn't just a communist, he was possibly one of the biggest communists in america. >> yes. so-- so my grandfather, earl browder-- was a labor union organizer in wichita, kansas. and he was so good at organizing the union that in 1927 the international communist party said, "if you like labor unionism you're gonna love communism. why don't you come to russia"? so 1927 my grandfather goes to russia. he ends up meeting-- a russian girl who becomes my grandmother. my father is born there. and then five years later, in 1932, the communist party sends him back to america to become the general secretary of the america communist party. he runs for president in 1936 and '40 against roosevelt. he's imprisoned by roosevelt in '41, pardoned the next year. and then ultimately kicked out of the communist party in 1945 for being too capitalist. and one would've thought that would be the end of the story. but then in the 1950s he was persecuted for being a communist. they