bill: you told those guys you liked that south carolina pinhead congressman wilson. >> yeah. ll: yelling out at president obama. now, what if a liberal democrat had yelled out at president bush at one of his speeches? you wouldn't have liked that. >> well, they do all the time and the difference is they just boo generally. last night we had obama telling lie after lie and by the way you began your talking points by saying you just want to be able to speak for the fair minded people. how about making this for fair-minded. just take two examples of what obama said last night including the one that the greatest living statesman, representative joe wilson responded to and that is this bill will not cover abortion. it will not cover illegal aliens. bill: that's what he said. >> there are a lot of arguments i can make on that but i'm only going to give the fair minded of yours viewers their one argument. republicans introduced amendments that would make this -- that would not allow coverage under the health care bill forrism legal aliens. democrats vote that amendment down. republic

bill: joe wilson made a mistake. >> i do, too. bill: you win the debate in the long run.s why we have been number one for years. you win it with the facts. you don't win it by calling people names. you don't win it by disrupting and being disruptful to the president of the united states even if you disagree with them. you don't do that wilson hurt his own cause. i have to submit to you that there is a lot of meanness going on. i think it's worse than it's ever been in the media. it is just nasty, nasty stuff coming down on both sides. >> well, i think first of all the breakdown of the media, the rise of blogs, the rise of anybody who wants to write anything they want to has led a lot of people anonymously to write evil things because they can do it. they can post it and get away with it let's be clear. what joe wilson did was wrong and he has apologized. to the best of my knowledge, not a single one of the democrats who booed president george w. bush, not a single one, ever apologized. i'm just making the case there is a double standard. bill: absolutely. everybody knows

there are no facts, because the health care bill is no longer -- not yet finalized. wilson was inappropriate, but he was right. illegal aliens will be covered under obama care. how do you know that? there is no bill. if he lied in for the nation, obama is a one-term die. -- guy. my job is to analyze the facts, not what might happen. let's wait for the bill. raymond from new york. foxnews.com/oreilly. if you came in late, my talking points memo is on 9/11 and how the left is treating it. also, leave me pithy comments from any place in the world. when writing to us, do not be a rapscallion. i had that on my cell of the other night. [laughter] that is it for us today. 24-7 on billoreilly.com. k

bill: interesting point. rangle, not really coming down on them but they are all over wilson. hat out leads nowhere, madam as the kanye west tailor swift controversy speaks for itself. your speculation and the factor doesn't plate race card. we are never going to do that. bill: well, i'm glad. so i'm going to send you a copy of bold fresh, cory. keep reading and i hope you like it. bill: thanks for reading my book. remember, buy bold fresh or anything else on bill o'reilly.com. and you have got to buy it $19.95. get a fre, fre fre bold fresh tote back. how about our web site, www.fox news slash o'reilly. talking points memo is a good one this evening if you come in late. email us with pithy comments from anywhere in the world. o'reilly@foxnews.com. name and town if you wish to opine. please, when writing to us here is the word of the day don't be a plooter. that's it for us today. continue 24/7 on bill gretchen: good morning, everyone. thursday, september 17, 2009. thanks for sharing your time today. she's clueless about cutting off cash for acorn. you won't believe what speake

bill: interesting point. rangle, not really coming down on them but they are all over wilson. bill: pointing that out leads nowhere, madam as the kanye west tailor swift controversy speaks for itself. your speculation and the factor doesn't plate race card. we are never going to do that. bill: well, i'm glad. so i'm going to send you a copy of bold fresh, cory. keep reading and i hope you like it. bill: thanks for reading my book. remember, buy bold fresh or anything else on bill o'reilly.com. and you have got to buy it $19.95. get a fre, fre fre bold fresh tote back. how about our web site, www.fox news slash o'reilly. talking points memo is a good one this evening if you come in late. email us with pithy comments from anywhere in the world.

bill. saying no subsidyforillegal immigrants fine. but the republican crics, incding people likejoe wilson say there's no verification in the bill. how do we know f we don't ask for proof citizenship whether or not you get that. the answero that is if you do these tax subsidies, the irs has chanisms of course, which legal residence. gwen: the federal government won't subsidize an ilegal alien program. >> it oes epressly ba that budoes it ave adeuate enforcement? and is there a public option? can an illegal imigrant buy this planthat the government uld offer as a competitor to private insurers. the bills dot say they can't. and congressional rsearch seice says there's nothing in the bilthat says gwen: how can you stop? the white hoe today said they won'tllow in their plan, they uld bar ilegal immigran from buying t public- >> even in the cange, whic would have private programs well, forwhich you really question where is the bsidy the. accusations that are potent. gwen: that's the bg question about the end f this week for me. how ch did the outburst an how much did the ebate that folwed the outburstand the discuson of this issue, h

indeed, the bills that are before congress would include illegal aliens. >> you know, i hate to rain on congressman wilson's me-me-me parade here, but the bills under consideration in congress don't provide coverage for illegal immigrants. they just don't. and yet, two conservative democratic senators, kent conrad of north dakota and max baucus of montana said after congressman wilson's scream heard around the world that they want to reconsider language in the bill that concerns illegal immigrants. according to reporting today in "time" magazine, senator conrad said after a thursday morning meeting, "we really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the president's speech last night, we wanted to go back and drill down again." we thought it was resolved by the language that says, and i quote, "no illegal immigrants will benefit from the health care tax credits," that's on page four. but after that guy screamed at the president, we thought we should do more to make sure he was getting everything he wanted. yeah, senators conrad and baucus are not only rewa

a friend of joe wilson and steve king of iowa continues in his efforts of screaming you lie at the president step one in becoming a new republican hero. >> because this health care billse of who? joe wilson. god bless joe. he said what we were thinking. joe's a man of honor. he's an officer and a gentleman and he's a patriot. >> conservatives are now actually asking congressman joe wilson to autograph photos of himself yelling at the president. the congressman has been happy to oblige. did i mention how sorry he said he was for doing it? >> the truth is had joe wilson not spoken, it's very likely that this legislation 3,200 in the house would've proceeded, which has no enforcement at this point even now of the prescription against health insurance against illegal immigrants. he did a public service. >> he did a public service. cnn's lou dobbs joins the canonization of the "you lie" screaming congressman, also serves to remind us that wilson screaming at the president has also served as sort of a kick-off event for the resurgence of anti-immigration politics on the right. texas governor rick perry this week used a press conference with rudy giuliani to pound his chest

wilson, that's exactly what's happening. >> well, fantastical success of tancredo aside. why is it that republicans then are going back to this well? first of all, health reform billsefit illegal immigrants, that hasn't stopped republicans from repeating this is a myth, from taking up wilson's cry as a battle cry here. and as you say, we've seen how this has faired for them in past electoral cycles. why can't they help themselves from doing this? >> they can't help themselves because it plays incredibly well for the base. one of these things that gets people's blood boiling for all sorts of reasons, i won't speculate on, but the fact of the matter is it does for a certain percentage of the population. it's really important to piggy back on what you said. there are two things to think about in terms of the health reform bill, right? the accusation is that it's going to subsidize the purchase of health insurance for illegal immigrants, absolutely 1,000% not true, right? it's statutorily borrowed in the bill and the mechanism, the tax returns which the legal immigrants will not file. but max baucus went and made sure that illegal immigrants cannot purchase health insu

in this particular case interesting bill was perfectly clear. congressman wilson flat out wrong. there's nothing that says -- they're banned from getting benefits. so for the senators to say, oh, well because he claim it is unclear, we'll try to toughen up the language. it gives the guy credit and make the democrats look like it is their fault that they guy is acting like a clown. and i just, i think a lot of democrats are scratching their head when they look at max baucus and ken conrad. a whole other rant for me today. we're going to take some time to remember the victim of the 9/11 terror attacks. mike mcginty is one of the thousands of people who lost his life on that day. mike was working on the 99th floor of the world tray center. his wife cindy joins us live. late senator ted kennedy played a special role in her personal tragedy on 9/11. and i wonder if could you talk about that and the relationship with ted kennedy and explain it to our audience. >> well, senator kennedy, after 9/11, call every single family in massachusetts to offer his condolences and to

wilson called you might as well be. him a liar during his health care speech to congress and then former president jimmy carter charged racism and then bill agreed and joe wilson denied it and then rush limbaugh weighed in, well, you get the idea. today he sat down with five major tv networks including cnn for interviews airing this weekend to talk health care and, yes, race. "raw politics" from joe johns. >> reporter: the president could no long area void talking about it. race. it came up in interview after interview. this one with cnn's john king. >> there are people out there that don't like me because of my race. that's not the average variety issue here. i think there are people who are anti-government, you know, i think that there are -- there's been a long standing debate in this country that is usually that much more fierce during times of transition. or when presidents are trying to bring about big changes. the things said about fdr recently, there were things said about me. he was a communist, a socialist. things that were said about ronald reagan when he was trying to reverse some of the any deal programs. you know, they were

bill. as for house republican wilson, he later issued a statement apologizing for what he called a lack of civility. live on capitol hill, i'm brooke hart. joe, back to nku.hary tves ch m >> reporter: you're welcome. >> new today, route 7 in leesburg is shut down in both directions right now after a s riseaccident. ri h2: 00 2: a. a.m. betweenand river creek par. hond.urncreek parkway.tnd westb tht cethhour. the condition of ttihe people involv in that accident is not known at this time. >>> authorities are investigating a deadly house fire in the brians road area of charles county. we're told the house was fully engulfed in flames when firefighters arrived before 10:00 last night. ar knocking down the fire, firefighters found a body inside. there's no word yet on who the victim might be or what started the fire. a firefighter suffered minor injuries while battling the fire. >> 5:07, 67 degrees right now. why you should not be surprised to see a huge police presence during your commute today. >> it's the end of the day, it's a bunch of drunks. >> plus, tough talk from police after a prank

bill, because they can't! so they need to find something else to distract, and jam it through. joe wilsonbama calling it a myth that illegal immigrants wouldn't get coverage under this healthcare bill. the congressional research service says he's right. it's not a myth, so why are we wasting taxpayer time and money on meaningless nonsense? politicians and the fringe media may think that barack obama looks like the, you know, the deciding factor for healthcare opponents, but the american people, yeah, they're not really listening to that notion. they think it's nuts. quite frankly, have you noticed the ratings in the mainstream -- i'm sorry, fringe media lately? have you looked? guys, have you thought, gee, whas is causing our ratings to go down? maybe because we're wildly out of step with anybody, besides the people having cocktail parties in the park. oh, come on, look at my park avenue suite. it's wonderful. we can talk about all the things that the little people are talking about, you know, like brie and volvos. are you out of your mind? a new rasmussen poll shows that 12% of americans

south carolina congressman joe wilson facing rebuke by the house of representatives today for heckling the president. >>> democratic senator max baucus promising a health care bill this week with or without republican support. i'm tony harris. you're in the "cnn newsroom." >>> let's quickly get you caught up on the day's hot headlines and take the time to break down the big issues to find out why they really matter. leading the way this hour, the economy making a comeback. that's the message minutes from now from president obama. he's in hard hit ohio visiting a general motors plant that had been shut down for nine weeks. the plant is rehiring now thanks in part to the cash for clunkers program. the president's remarks to workers there set to begin in ten minutes. we'll be bringing you those remarks live right here in the "cnn newsroom." who was that nut that hollered

interesting topics that they're getting more interesting with details of the bill because of what joe wilsonhank you. >> jamie: thank you. i'm jamie colby with eric shawn. we're glad to h

bill. as for house republican wilson he later issued a statement apologizing for what he called a lack of civility. brooke hart, nbc news. >>> though the president and vice president accepted representative wilson's apogy vice president joe biden reacted. >> i saw unity in terms of the wilson's o e demeaning comment, not only to the president but to an institution i love. >> it seems representative wilson's disruption is benefiting his opponent south carolina democrat rob miller. since last night his campaign has reportedly raised thousands of unexpected dollars on line for a possible rematch with wilson next year. >>> today a taxpayer rally kicks off in washington. thousands of people are expected to protest what they are calling a non-stop tax and spend agenda on capitol hill. the rally begin this is morning with the liberty s ummit heldt at the.c d. near rfk m.stiuad after the summit participants are eraouncged to visit ou legislators. on saturday mningngegniin at 11:30, a march is scheduled fmni freedom plaza tohe t capitol sts. ep s e group freedom works i events and week's predicts that tens

the interesting thing out of the joe wilson outburst is the change both in the senate bill, there willt, illegals will not get taxpayer subsidized health insurance and the white house saying we will use the safe version and have the eligibility requirement so we are making progress to highlight the grass roots feeling that illegals have broken into the country and they do not deserve taxpayer supported help. >> radio talk shows have blossomed and they are extremely powerful. you bring that here to washington. you bring several dozen hosts and they are in one place broadcasting where members of congress and different people can come to them. is this a friendly exchange, how does it work? >> friendly to those people who are friendly to the idea of the rule of law and legal immigration. very unfriendly to people who are on the other side and who want open borders and subsidies for illegals. we don't and we are here to make that case and if we need to get in their face a little, we do it. >> shannon: do you have some on the other side of the issue come and sit down and talk to you? >> we h

wilson lied when he said the president lied. he talked about illegal immigrants. it's clearly excluded from the bill. k obama is a big boy. i think, i must say, the republicans particularly like joe wilson who want to get into a debate with barack obama is tugging on superman's cape and pulling the lone ranger's mask. but if that's what he wants to do, free country. >> were republicans tonight in a mo more sober response are asking for everything to start over again. they are saying let's go back to square one. they say that's what americans are demanding. everything that happened so far has been wrong foot and they want a restart. >> what they ought to do is go back to square one and judge the reacti reaction. let's be very clear, this assistance on bipartisanship really goes against the notion of democracy. we had an election in 2008, and the democrats won the presidency. significant majorities in the house and the senate. we don't all agree on everything but there were clear differences. there were clear differences. one of the great things the president did today -- and i don't agree with everythi

the to try to calm them down by agreeing to doubly, tripoli, extra dog dare clarify that in wilson's case the billouldn't cover illegal immigrants and in buyer's case that it wouldn't harm veterans. the bill wouldn't have covered illegal immigrants in the first place, nor hurt veterans, but democrats agreeing to tweak language to please these guys anyway made them feel their made-up spirl criticism had been validated as evidenced by house staffers wanting me to issue a correction stating that congressman steve buyer was really right all along when he lied about veterans being put at risk by the proposals for health reform. veterans are not at risk from proposals for health reform. tricare and va care will not change under anything that is being considered for health reform. congressman buyer was wrong when he said it in august. he was still wrong when democrats tried to appease him about it anyway. and he is wrong now when he tries to take credit for fixing a fake problem that he created in the first place to build his own reputation on the babs of veterans he is scaring and exploiting just to mak

night, including the one that the greatest living statesman, representative joe wilson responded to, and that is the billl know the cover abortion, it will not cover illegal aliens. >> that's what he said. >> there are a lot of arguments i could make on that i'm only going to fair minded viewers one arguments. the republicans make amendment that would not allow coverage for illegal aliens. democrats voted that down. republicans introduced an amendment that say the health care bill will not cover abortion. the democrats vote the that down. >> that's true. >> they want to call up lawyers and 0 vote for the amendment and we have the courts over ruling. >> now, obama is on the record in front of the country saying no illegal illions, no abortion. he's locked down. >> he can say he's a martian. the democrats voted against it. >> if he lies, he loses. if he lies, he loses. >> okay, well, that was a lie and that's what representative joe wilson was saying. >> we don't know-- >> yes, i know, i know what's in the bill. >> oh, come on, this is the argument. >> final bill hasn't been-- >> bill, that's part of the w

congressional budget office and the congressional research services have all concurred with joe wilson and myself that the billlegals and there are dollar figures we can look at. >> congressman, just to be absolutely clear, let's go ahead and cite what have been three of the bills that did pass congress and said specifically, nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the united states. it seems pretty clear to most people that it means that illegal immigrants cannot get any benefits. >> i would point out that the first bill that came to the floor, the only anybomnibus bil onby read a similar piece of language in the first paragraph, nothing in this, no earmarks in the bill, but the president signed over 5,000 earmarks in the bill, just because that language is there, there's no provisions to keep the funding from illegals. we had that language. it was in the medicaid provision and taken out under the schip legislation we propose to put it back in the health care bill, voted down 29-28, energy and commerce committee a

wilson's shouting last night. was there even an ink cling in the claim? bill bill is here.s for being here. >> thanks for having me back, campbell. >> the truth-o-meter, we're going to put him to the test. let's listen. >> the reforms would not apply to those who are here illegal. all right. give us the low down. what do you think? >> congressman gets a false on the truth-o-meter. whether he indeed was right and president obama was lying about whether illegal immigrants would get insurance coverage under his plan and we found that wilson was wrong. indeed, if you look at the bill, for the first thing, when you look at all of the bill, it really doesn't say much about illegal immigrants but it does specify that they are not eligible for the credits, what are called afford built credits, the government sus sid dee helping for them to be covered. this is the first time that we fat checked a heck cler. i think that's what has happened in american politics republicans are also making a more sedate claim about the illegal immigrant to look at this more specifically. house republi

repeated it. >> in any case, if joe wilson or any other member of congress has a problem with the language of the bill, what they need to do is change their attitude about the entire health care package and start to introduce amendments that are constructive rather than scream out while the president is speaking in congress. that is a sign of their frustration perhaps but it doesn't do anything. >> a fair comment. joe, i wanted to ask you, you have written a number of columns that obama has a strategy that ranks bipartisan agreement above policy substance. what are you talking about there? flush that out for us a bit. >> what i said is there were signs of that from comments coming from white house staff basically saying we're going to throw over the public option because we need to -- we want to get one republican vote in the senate. they know they're not going to get any republican votes in the house practically. they want to get one republican and one senate. there were some democrats that didn't want to vote for a bill done through reconciliation with no republican votes. we can't have the bill the

he is representative joe wilson of south carolina who shouted "you lie" after the president claimed the bills in congress would not cover illegal immigrants. representative wilson says he called the white house, after that speech, to apologize. >> i'm very grateful that the white house in talking with them, they indicated that they appreciated the call and that we needed to have a civil discussion about the issues. i certainly agree with that. shepard: and after, the president said, "apology accepted." >> we all make mistakes. he apologized quickly and without equivocation and i'm appreciative of that. shepard: it's actually against the rules of the house of representatives to accuse the president of lying. for now the democratic leadership has decided not to punish congressman wilson. democrats initially expressed shock and congressman wilson later distanced himself from his own apology saying that the house republican leadership told him to do it. and the white house has just announced president obama will give what it calls a major speech about the financial crisis on monday. monday, becau

bill hall. two batters later, jack wilson. they strand beltre. franklin gutierrez, watch beltre here. yeah. lifetime against sabathia coming into this gape. >> chuck meriwether -- top five. mark sends a text message. it's 6-0, yankees. >> i knew you were going to say that. >> they're paying another guy to say it. >> oh, did it pain me? >> well -- >> that pains sabathia off of gutierrez. look at this in the fifth. two out, nobody on. you don't think they came running out of that dugout? oh. just below the collarbone it looked like. >> eight inches higher it would hit him in the face. thank goodness. >> looks like he was okay. he's tough. >> that's the right -- >> here's mark teixeira. double shy of the cycle, off 8-1 in the ninth. gets another home run. mark teixeira. talk about a text message. he is on the mark. >> he needed a w. >> he wanted to stop that second. >> and one c.c. wins his 18th. is he the a.l. cy young guy? >> i don't think -- i think he and joe mauer are going to go right down to the end for the mvp. the fact that joe mauer is going to play meaningful games the entire season

bill hall. two batters later, jack wilson. they strand beltre. franklin gutierrez, watch beltre here. yeah. lifetime against sabathia coming into this gape. >> chuck meriwether -- top five. mark sends a text message. it's 6-0, yankees. >> i knew you were going to say that. >> they're paying another guy to say it. >> oh, did it pain me? >> well -- >> that pains sabathia off of gutierrez. look at this in the fifth. two out, nobody on. you don't think they came running out of that dugout? oh. just below the collarbone it looked like. >> eight inches higher it would hit him in the face. thank goodness. >> looks like he was okay. he's tough. >> that's the right -- >> here's mark teixeira. double shy of the cycle, off 8-1 in the ninth. gets another home run. mark teixeira. talk about a text message. he is on the mark. >> he needed a w. >> he wanted to stop that second. >> and one c.c. wins his 18th.

pelt and eric now will share plate calling responsibilities for what happened here is that bills own oner ralph wilsoncreasingly impatient with the results of the bills offense this summer. now they went out during the off season and added t.o. they redid their offensive line, and it wasn't enough to do anything on the offensive side of the football. they were very sluggish. very unproductive, and finally it became enough for ralph wilson who had been on the war path the past couple of weeks. and finally those changes had taken hold. and if things don't turn around in buffalo any time soon, dick jauron on, the buffalo bills head coach could be next. >> hall of famer ernie har well has inoperable cancer and says he's not scared. doctors found a tumer last month that har well, his family and his doctors have decided against surgery or other treatment. the 91-year-old former tigers broadcaster doesn't have anyt pain, and says whether it's a long time or short time is all right with me. whatever is in store, i'm ready for a new adventure. >> harwell who retired in 2002 says he's not scared because of fait

the bill now prohibits government money being spent for illegal aliens and on top of that we have been telling folks like mr. wilson about this fact but he doesn't seem to understand, listen or be able to read the bill. >> congressman dingell, you ever been around a long time we have heard from people who say the democrats, they were rude to george w. bush, social security debate, they booed and hissed but ever seen anybody with the outburr thanks joe wilson had the other night all the years served in congress? >> i think that to call the president a liar in any place or indeed in a formal session of the house of representatives is in exquisite bad taste and it is clearly wrong. the history of this country is we do tend to be outspoken but this goes beyond the bounce. >> how does it feel to have the most progress made on this debate and what many say will ultimate lib the reform of health care in this country? >> way back when i was cleaning up dad's bill before i introduced it, the first time i found it about half had been ena enacted. since then, i have had to excise other parts enacted into law but it feels very

already proved right by admitting that they're going to take the provision out of the bill that representative wilsonwas referring to? it's almost uncanny to me. that we would live to see such a day when that would happen. mr. king: i thank the gentlelady and i believe it says in the book of john that if you forgive men's since, they are forgiven. if you hold them bounds they are held bound. president obama accepted the ajoy -- apology. that's forgivenessness. because the president accepted the apology from the officer and the gentleman joe wilson, no one else in the country has the claim to any other redress whatsoever. mrs. bachmann: which is why i thank the gentleman from iowa for pening a letter asking our other colleagues on both sides of the aisle to join that letter in support of our colleague joe wilson. i was very happy to sign onto your letter but you, steven king, the stunning steve king of the state of iowa, you took the initiative on the front, you were right to do so. and i'm extremely grateful for your leadership on that issue because this is the point when we're talking about this iss

bill, making its way through the house. he was outlining the entire plan as it will look once it reaches his desk. we rejoin congressman wilson with possibly the most irrelevant sound bite of a long day. >> it was spontaneous. it was when he stated, as he did, about not covering illegal aliens when i knew he had those two amendments. and i say that respectfully. >> frankly, sir, you don't know what that latter word means, respect being something a colonel in the reserves would have for his commander, let alone his commander-in-chief. colonel joe wilson having those breached military protocol on top of everything else. republican congressman wilson's liberty to abandon conduct said the president did, in fact, lie in last night's speech. >> thirdly, he said illegal immigrants wouldn't get benefits. hr-3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens participating in and paying for coverage through the exchange, whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present or in the united states temporarily or permanently. >> this is a health care reform debate. if you want to have an immigration reform debate, wait your turn a

bill comes to the floor. this question about illegal immigration where congressman wilson made the comment he did -- obviously, we hold the president in highest respect, but now the president has said the illegal immigrants do not get benefits under the bill i hope that congressman wilson offers an amendment that helps with the one representative deal from georgia offered that has enforcement regulations that require people to prove citizenship. we offered it but the democrats voted it down in committee. i'm glad the president spoke to the american people. i will take him at his word and encourage the republican leadership to offer an ins to employment -- offer amendments to take the president of what he said. that the signature. it is $239 billion and above over budget on a 10-year period. we ought to have something in the bill that comes to the floor to implement that. his general rhetoric, myself and most republicans, support. we cannot support the bill put in front of us to vote on in the energy and commerce committee and the bill that is apparently going to come to the floor. so, when you go before the a

neil: sojo wilson said -- so joe wilson had said "you are misrepresenting what is in the bill" he wouldt and we are talking about it, and i don't know what is in the president's heart, but we know what the law is. neil: tomorrow we will have live coverage from ground zero to commeme

against truman, to john birchers against jfk and the vast right wing conspiracy against bill clinton. but wilson'sking disrespect for the office of the president. no democrat ever shouted liar at "w" when he was hawking a fake case for war in iraq -- convinced me. some people just can't believe a black man is president and will never accept it. wow. >> peggy noonan, over the past couple of days, i've heard more commentators of the mainstream media start to, i would say, play the race card. after all of the campaigning and everything else, the president's back to the wall, and now maureen o'dowd is suggesting that joe wilson and others that are upset at this effort for health care reform have problems with the president being a person of color. do you agree with that? >> you know, one of the things at play here, i think, is that, when you are a liberal and you see conservatives criticize your guy, you get all upset. you don't understand it. and you try to think of reasons it could be. when you are a conservative and you see the liberals going at your guy, you get a little upset. you don't understan

bill. on the one hand they say it never existed and then move to take it out. >> i find it interesting, amanda, joe wilsond the president lied in 2003 he voted for a medicare bill that would cover illegal immigrants and reimburse states for covering illegal immigrants in treating them in hospitals. so now they flip-flop in this whole you lie when he himself voted for a bill that president bush ushered through. so i think it's a little interesting. i don't think it's about health care that this discussion is really hinged on. >> let me address that because there is this underlying theme, you hear that the if you somehow oppose the president's bill or you bring up something over whether it would address illegal il yens that maybe you're a risist. i think that might be what you're getting to in the last comment. maureen dowd brought it up in a column. i think that's dangerous to say when people dissent from the president in this whole post racial era, that you are somehow racist. >> can i -- i want to jump in because it's sort of relative because there is a new article on political -- it suggests that the pr

. >> joe wilson has an action figure. >> barack obama and bill clinton, the new bff?an jim traficant about life in the u.s. house and life in the big house. that is going to be a great interview. announcer: you could buy 750 bottles of water or just one brita faucet filter. ( drop plinks ) brita-- better for the environment and your wallet. you should know, bayer aspirin is one of most studied, most trusted, anti-fever, anti-inflammatory, and anti-pain medications in the world. from pain killer to life saver, bayer aspirin is the wonder drug that works wonders. >>> there's a lot going on today. here are three things we thought you should know. >> that's right. three years after leaving capitol hill, mark foley is putting himself back in the spotlight and talking about his career-ending scandal. he is hosting his own radio show on wsvu in florida. during the debut of "inside the mind" mark foley said he hid his homosexuality because he worried about voter reaction. he left congress in 2006 after word got out he sent salacious e-mails to male congressional pages. >> i h

republican congressman joe wilson for his outburst over whether illegals will get health care coverage. on the other side, senate democrats are working on a new health care bill that will only now block illegals from buying coverage on the government's dime. texas congressman john carter says that proves wilson got it right and today's resolution is a big waste of time and money. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- neil: you are saying his colleague of yours could be censored or whatever you guys do to people who misbehaved for all the wrong reasons. >> did have it right. the protections to keep illegal aliens from being covered by the bill were not in the bill, and it is proven by what the senate is doing to make sure they have corrected that. neil: that is a bit of irony, but can i ask you this -- if you censored or condemned -- i guess there are variations of that -- what happens? where do you go? >> i do not think this censure follows any format. it is kind of interesting the way this works. this does not fall under the debate rules where someone makes a statement in debate which

bill. sean: we have got this rebuke against congressman wilson today. one democratic congressman rebuke wilson or the k.k.k. returns. i said they forget the guy who used the run the senate for the democratic party over there the former chanceman. here are the guidelines. you cannot call the president a liar, a hypocrite. you cannot describe the president's veto as cowardly. you cannot charge the president's intellectually dishonest. refer to him as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. or refer to the sexual misconduct on the president's part. do we have free speech anymore in america or did i miss something here? >> free speech is real and i think we should always defend that. but at the same time, i think that because a person has the right to say something is not always the right thing to say i saw -- i was in the house for eight years. i saw republicans when president clinton was the president, some pretty ugly things. monica lewenski. you know, the scandal down sean: the president was having sex with an intern. >> at the same time, the republicans w