how about billy graham hanging out with richard nixon. talk about that relationship and the beginning of a politicalization of evangelicalism. >> billy graham liked powerful people. he always did. they were extremely helpful to him because they would make his revivals much easier to accomplish and they would get this shining glow around them and he would seem even more important than he was by having senate leaders, democrats and republicans alike. he became very attached to richard nixon long before nixon iran for president. that was kind of his downfall because he became too close and he changed his views to nixon's views and started to defend the nixon administration so that when the vietnam war came to its terrible climax he was part of one of the people to be blamed for it. and later for watergate which he did not denounce early enough. >> as i read your book, i thought of billy graham as a foreshadow, he was foreshadowing what happens after him. he was one person, a larger-than-life figure but by the late 1970s, you have an entire o

liberals find themselves under attack in things like that, but what was different from billy graham in this case is they planned to make a mask movement and graham never did. he was intended to have his own relationships with the powerful. but this came up from the grassroots are having totally novel ideas. there's all kinds of things that preceded it like terrible textbook wars in virginia, the upsurge of conservatism in southern california, all kinds of things and then the issues began to appear. if she was most of them having to do with the resentment and you react to 1950s with the kids to protest against the war, women dressing in blue jeans. he became huge in the sense that the issues were enormous and since the 1940s had been trying to make the state of more natural between various religious groups and between religious groups and the nonreligious people. so, it all sort of happened at the same time, and it was a bit delayed and the real reactor came and at that point with the help of the new right operatives from washington, d.c. who had their own conservative tax persuaded him

billie graham used to say that. the liberals say that's not enough. we have to change the laws, change institutions. that was an example of where american politics was affected by liberal protestants. >> you have talked more about also heareas of american life, foreign service for example, but we will have to come back to those in just a minute or so here on mosaic. we'll be back. >>> welcome back to mosaic. we are with dr. david hollinger. one of the books he's written is after cloven tongues of fire about modern liberal protestantism in american history. we are talking specifically now about the missionaries of these denominations, of these two parties and how they have influenced so much u.s. society. wewe were about to talk about influence of foreign service and foreign policy. these are missionary movements, missionaries who are now affecting political climate decisions. >> it may be that the most important single consequence of the liberal ecumenical missionary project abroad was the creation in the united states during the 1940s, '50s, 60s and

is it kind of reminds me of kind of an old-fashioned billy graham crusade. >> it sort of is.t >> right. >> big tent and the community comes together. think of me putting on a revival church service for the whole country/town hall meeting. so that you come to local movie theater connected to 800 other theaters. while we broadcast life from washington. d.c. the museum of the bible and we're going to talk about the fact we're such a divided nation over race, religion, politics, everything and we need to find way to come together in unity now. quick. >> clearly there's a need for this when you did it last year it was one of the largest events that has happened. >> it was big. 150, 60,000 people came and we worshipped together, we prayed together. we sang and we rolled up our sleeves to talk about the health of the nation and how faith played such an important part in that. >> what people going to experience and see. >> i've as september belled my smart met most brilliant friends dr. ben carson, robbie sack rye yas, alex and steven kendrick the guys who war rooms those faith based

graham can't get away with this. >> michael: listen, jack, i'm trying -- >> jack: i mean it. come up with a solution or i will. >> victoria: hey. you okay? >> billy: yeah, i'm good. >> victoria: you're a liar. i know you're worried about ashley. >> billy: right now, i just want to focus on work, okay? make the most of the opportunity by expanding the men's line. i want to show yom