in birmingham back in 1963 there have been 13 mass murders at or around places or worship.s in texas, louisiana, wisconsin, pennsylvania colorado and california, a buddhist temple in arizona and wisconsin. most churches don't need armed security they need people who know what to call the authorities. >> the most essential part of security is simply an awareness, having one or two people who are focused on things that we call a dlr, don't look right. >> give whann what happened last night, many religious leaders are taking no chances. kate snow nbc news new york. >> we're back in a moment with some of the day's other news including some news about this broadcast. sometimes the present looked bright. sometimes romantic. there were tears in my eyes. and tears in my eyes. and so many little things that we learned were really the biggest things. through it all, we saved and had a retirement plan. and someone who listened and helped us along the way. because we always knew that someday the future would be the present. every someday needs a plan. talk with us about your retirement

so i drove her basically to a secret area of birmingham and they would not lettuce and. and he got in trouble for bringing us along so we had to wait in the parking lot. so then god knows what lyndon they had training camps and tuesday and never discussed by religion and. to the catenate with the infidel. who is jewish. so it is better to be jewish day and the atheist? >> but they have training camps and one of them said they never message you but then this was all a 1996 or 1997 and with the anti-defamation league. he said britain but i think he meant me as well with what islamic terrorism actually means. and then four years later all those people were convicted with acts of terrorism.

i would like something in return so it was that this country house in birmingham they wouldn't let us in so we had to wait in the parking lot and then he said it's a trading camp and he said it never discussed my religion but he said [inaudible] and i said to surely it is better than being an atheist and i don't know why i said that because actually i am. then they all surrounded me and asked what it was like to be a jew. then in 1996 and 1997 he said britain, i think he meant me had woken up to what islamic terrorists actually mean and ever since 2001 they have been implicated. there've been a number of occasions why they've blown themselves up and would have the number. one of the drivers ended up somewhere and now he's in prison in beirut. so a few people have said you are naÏve that this is happening and you are making a kind of comic story that you presented this as a kind of comical story and i guess it happened with the comedy and we were there by luck so i think it's a kind of valuable record of the world being about to change. >>> presidential candidates often release books t

my mind flashed to the four little girls killed in the church in birmingham, one of those young girls even though it was a baptist church was a member of ame as well. it's just gut wrenching. >> this morning at mother bethel there will be a commemorative serve remembering those killed last night in charleston. vernon odom, channel 6 "action news." >> thank you. >>> our coverage of the deadly church shootings continue at 6abc.com, you can find updated information and a collection of photos as a community continues to cope and reaction from the area and worldwide as people send their condole lances on twitter and other social media. the rain has cleared out but the clouds have not this is a gloomy scene in wilmington delaware, there is still a chance of showers in parts of our area including delaware. karen rogers joins us now. >> reporter: as we look at stormtracker 6 live double scan nothing like it looked this morning with the steady rain in there but some spots were picking up a shower here or there, pretty dry at the moment, it's still 66 degrees in philadelphia right now, very coo

since the bombing at the 16th street baptist church in birmingham back in 1963 there have been 13 massurders at or around places of worship. chumps in texas, louisiana, wisconsin, pennsylvania colorado and california a buddhist temple in arizona, a sikh temple in wisconsin. he says most churches don't need armed security. they need people to know when to call the authorities. >> the most essential part of security is simply an awareness, having one or two people who are focused on things that we call a dlr, don't look right. >> reporter: given what happened last night, many religious leaders are taking no chances. kate snow, nbc news, new york. >> we're back in a moment with some of the day's other news, including some news about this broadcast. >>> we want to turn to some of the other stories we're following for you. it's day 13 of the manhunt for the two escaped convicts in upstate new york. the attorney for lyle mitchell, husband of accused accomplice joyce mitchell told nbc news exclusively today that lyle knew of his wife's relationship with an inmate and when he was visiting his

since the bombing in 1963 in birmingham alabama there's been 13 around the country.ious leaders aren't taking any chances including one pastor in new jersey. >> this church you're standing in spends thousands of dollars a year for armed security. very every event we have thousands of dollars. unimaginable how much we spend so that persons that come to worship can feel safe and feel protected. that's a shame in the 21st century. >> here in new york mayor bill de blasio announced the nypd was adding security as a from precaution. >>> a heartbreaking story. a 2-year-old boy's body was found after he was swept from his father's arms. his father was attempting to cross the water that was rising. the father was overtaken and lost contact with his son. two other deaths are blamed on the tropical system as well. >> can you imagine? >> absolutely heartbreaking. >> saddest thing i've heard. i wish that dad well and family too. that's crazy. storm itself is still with us. it's been four days. still a chance for flash flooding. hopefully won't be as bad as the last two days. was

now they come into our church and shoot us. >> reporter: you remember birmingham? >> i do. >> reporter: name and title and tell me what you've been thinking. >> i'm sheryl sanders, pastor of third street church of god and i teach ethics at howard university. this gives me an opportunity to look at the past, the present and the future. you t move forward from this event without looking at the past going back to birmingham, looking at other instances where you have people massacred while they worship. this charleston prayer meeting massacre brings us to the present moment of conversation about what is it going to take to bring healing to this nation and future, what vision do we have of a place where we can be safe, we can welcome people of different races into our worship and not be afraid? >> reporter: tell me what's on your mind? >> decks tore norton -- dexter norton, baptist church. our hearts hurt. there's no shortage of isms in this country and they've all played out in this particular situation. the irony is we have an act of terrorism that's been perpetrated

in charleston brought back memories of the 1963 church bombing that killed four little girls in birminghamrs some video from those awful days in 19 1963. the fact that as you point out, a church once again the target of this senseless, racist act, it's so poignant and it's hard to believe that there are haters that not only spew words like this but actually are willing to go out and kill people. >> so wolf as an administer in the emmanuel african methodist episcopal church i taught wednesday night bible study for years and it is a tradition in such a bible study to welcome a stranger in. so this young man has undoubtedly the hand of fellowship as well as an open bible and brought to the table for discussion and teaching in terms of the scripture. the fact that he would put down a bible and take up a gun to kill nine people is incomprehensible and it evokes the tragedy of the bombing of the church in birmingham in that in that instance african-americans were targeted. here african-americans were targeted. but be clear as i've said time and time again. our values were victimized. that's not

i talk about it constantly when i give presentation i show what was going on with birmingham.f hat, has been a symbol of hate. the sad thing is it's taken nine deaths for people to wake up step up the country of courage and leadership to tell people exactly what that is and to take it down. my thoughts were always with the greater charleston community. one of the things that struck me about charleston which we did not see in birmingham is the memorials and. in 1963 the funerals and memorials were almost all black. the black community went out in force, but you saw only a smattering of white clergy. charleston is the opposite a diverse constituent with living color, with people of all walks of life coming to remember these people and call to the dialogue we need in this country. >> thank you, doug you have you have such a unique perspective having prosecuted that case of that horrid arriving church bombing that took those innocent lives back in 1963. i appreciate you being on with me. >> it's been my pleasure. thank you. >>> of course. stay with us. of course a big moment about

an ugly echo of the 1963 bombing of the 16th street baptist church in birmingham, alabama where fourgirls were killed. >> these churches were both targeted because they were used by black people. >> i've been in philadelphia longer than i've been anywhere. >> mark kelly tile is he senior mass for at mother bethel church in philadelphia. we spoke to him and another ame church in hear gleam you say this young man is 21. at 1 born after the huxtables. how do you get that exempt september somebody purposely teaches you this. this mentality still alive still out there in the atmosphere. >> yesterday a website surfaced showing photographs of dylann roof posing with a gun and burning the american flag. it includes a white supremacist manifesto the writer says, i was not raised in a racist home or environment. but spews hatred for blacks, hispanics and jews, saying i chose charleston because it is the most historic city in my state. >> could we not argue that america is about freedom. whether we live it out or not. "can full. >> emmanuel african methodist episcopal church might has well had

and a very similar scenario in birmingham, demonstrations, the selma demonstrations, birmingham had the foil that just pushed what would be an ordinary march down the street into a national televised, experience, extreme push back on the part of the dogs fire hoses that are well-known, and in selma 19 miles south of birmingham, i did lead the concerned white citizens of alabama in feet marge in solidarity with the voting rights movement in selma which had been going on for two months, started in january, january 2nd and here it was march 7th, march 6th for our march and march 7th next day was bloody sunday. we had no idea that would happen but anyway that was my involvement. i did participate in the turnaround tuesday two days after the bloody sunday march and the last day it was the selma montgomerie march. very moving days that have tremendous impact for us today. >> talking about bull connor in birmingham in selma and it was sheriff clark. he was the same guy you knew you could get under his skin and if the media was there those images were going to come up north and hopefully mo

we've been talking about what happened in 1963 when those four little girls were killed in birminghamhey had so many bombs they called it bombing-ham. >>> the klan was so virulent. fast forward to south carolina you're talking about a female governor who's of indians descent, widespread vigiling and in the case of birmingham it was decades before they brought the people to justice. we knew who did it right away. this man did not pull out a confederate flag and shoot people he i don't understand why we're talking about a flag but maybe something might have happened in there were concealed weapons in the church or if a friend intervened. it's a sideshow to talk about the flag or president obama using the "n" word. the issue is whether or not somebody today can work hard go to school make it to the mid cal class and tries heart. the answer is devastating yes. >> mark i'm sure you have strong opinions on what larry just said. >> one or two, i suspect. >> first i agreed that the "n" word shouldn't be the lead, pardon the pun, in our national conversation. i'm not surprised by it and i thin

this gritty on warts they have in birmingham. then omar hounded me as a jew and said he had training camp. been there for of year, never discussed my religion but he said, he certainly said look at me with the infidel the trainees, and a jew they all went oh! and i said it is better to the jews and an atheist and someone in the crowd went oh! actually i am an atheist. a jihad training camp. they surrounded me and asked what it was like to be a jew. and treating me -- a coral reef. and this was all 1996 1997. i met someone from the board of deputies, the anti-defamation league. and he said britain, i think he meant me as well, has woken up. paranoid. four years later and ever since 2001 omar's people have been implicated. there have been a number of occasions a suicide bomber has blown themselves up and would have omar's number stored in his mobile phone. that happened on a number of occasions. one of the drivers whether he had training camp end ed up blowing himself up somewhere and omar himself is in prison in beirut. a few peop

. >> reporter: among the items featured stain glass chards from the church in birmingham alabama where four young black girls were killed in 1963. >> i don't think it's possible to ever escape your past. >> it's disgusting. i think it's more of a hatred thing. i think there's a lot of division in the country. >> the church, at least in the african american community is sort of considered like, the locust of the community so if you want to kill black people that's where you go. >> reporter: how do we learn from this? >> not just the conversation but the kind of action that will lead us to a place where race becomes something we can talk about and something that we embrace and something that we can ultimately overcome. >> he says the museum is expected to open in 12 to 15 months and opens it will serve as a place for education. reporting in northwest d.c., zachary kiesch, news 4. >> here in the news room, along adam tuss. beore we get away for the weekend, we know next week is going to be a big week for next week. what's happening. >> next week we'll get an update on the episode back in

that act of racialized terrorism over50 years ago in birmingham, alabama inspired us as a nation. why then would we not assume that this brutal act of terror in our midst in a church in a city called the holy city would not so inspire us? we have ever reason to believe that we can rise above this. that we can bring about constructive policy reforms and that we can come together as communities. and as a country. >> mr. brooks, thank you. thank you very much for your time. >> good to talk to you. >> thank you. >> the charleston church shooting has reignited the controversial debate in the country over gun control. just a short time ago the president addressed the topic at a conference of mayors. >> you don't see murder on this kind of scale with this kind of frequency in any other advance nation on earth. every country has violent hateful, mentally unstable people. the difference is that not every country is awash with easily accessible guns. >> while president obama adamant about stricter gun laws, he feels that politics are getting in the way of meaningful action. >> it's an all t

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i think the 1963 bombing in birmingham is the one everyone knows best. four little girls were killed. then you see even in the 1990s there was a whole string of arsons against churches, mostly black churches mostly in the south, president clinton spoke against them, and there was a federal panel that went to investigate. and now you see that again. i think that although the causes and the organizers are different, the ideas of attacks against black churches is something that's an importance strain of american history. >> you write, you posed the question in your story how much has changed since the birmingham church bombing. how much has changed? >> i think a lot and a little. the fact that we're still seeing attacks, there's a common thread. there are changes, though. in the birmingham attack, it was a group of klan members. there was an organized effort. you had strong institutional racism. now you see systemic racism in places. if you look at many outcomes in south carolina there's large racial disparities. dylann roof appears to have been a lone acto

no offense to birmingham or minneapolis -- no. i'm not accepting that. >>> well, fireworks of course are a big part of the july 4th celebration. they're generally something though you want to leave up to the professionals. >> if you're planning on lighting up home fireworks you need to know where they're legal and where they're not. news4's megan mcgrath live on the national mall with what we need to know. >> reporter: hey, good morning. every year the consumer safety product commission puts out a warning and they do a graphic demonstration about the dangers of at-home fireworks. later on this morning they'll be doing that with jeff rossen from the "today" man. they'll blow up watermelons to demonstrate the dangers of the fire works. 200 people are injured every day in the month of july and despite the fact that fire works are illegal in most places. now, the laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. so there's often a lot of confusion about what the rules are. take a look here at our laws in our area. d.c., anything that explo

our next caller is from birmingham, alabama. good afternoon. caller: good afternoon, steve. i would like to say, first of all, that gentleman that called from illinois -- and then i will make my point. we saw black and brown people out there. why do we have to make everything racial? i understand that new york has a very large population of people but we are all next. there were african-americans out there. there was a young hispanic lady who wears -- was one of the first ones who spoke and sang. second of all, the person that called from maryland. as far issue said about her being struck. no one wants anyone -- we already disagree with the nsa spying on us. i am about to -- and to the gentleman saying -- [indiscernible] if that is the case, that is a lot of women in america. -- when she told about her mother. i understood where she was coming from. you've got to understand. some people have done strange things in their life. you talk about her mother never being able to graduate from high school, but to see her graduate, go to college, become an attorney, become the first l

in 1963, four little girls lost their lives in a bombing church in birmingham alabama.r the last few years over the years from time to time, there have been church bombings, individuals have been hurt. so, it is unfortunately not something new but what i would hope is we -- we must find a way to examine our nation in a different way. at the end of the day what we saw today was black and white and young and old and maybe wealthy and poor people coming together in the state of south carolina. and it should not take a tragedy where people lose their lives for people to come together. we must find ways to come together. >> even if we do, mr. king, it's not going to stop the psychotics among us from doing what they do. your grandmother was killed by a black man. >> that's correct. >> who said "i want to kill christians." and slain your innocent grandmother, who was sitting at a church organ. so what i'm trying to get across tonight to everybody in my talking points and commentary is that this kind of a atrocity, a terrorist act should unite americans as 9/11 did. we should u

i remember as a little girl 16th street baptist church was bombed in birmingham and i was -- i remember being afraid of going to church. >> we should say 1963. >> 1963. >> four little girls were killed in that bombing. >> that's right. i think for so many of us the pain and the history of violence that's happened in our churches it was a reminder again that we still have a lot of work to do in this country and to see the lives lost you know state senator and a pastor a librarian, a coach, people who were part of the fabric of a community, and i think all of us have work to do on race and i don't think it's inappropriate for us to talk about what we need to do to get and keep guns out of the hands of people who would commit such a tragedy. >> there was another extraordinary scene on friday at dylann roof's first court hearing. some of the relatives of the victims directly confronted him and we want to play a clip of nadine collier, the daughter of 70-year-old ethel lance, one of the people who was shot dead. here it is. >> i will never talk to her ever again. i will never be able to hold

you see major movement on the civil rights act after the birmingham bombing. see legislation after martin luther king's death. it is often the case that the issues are out there and people know they are an issue, but the only thing that will actually get the balls moving on the political process is somebody dying. it is a really tragic fact. david a. graham: what happened after the birmingham bombing, legislatively? greta wodele brawner: john f. kennedy spoke shortly after the bombings the next day and condemned them. the bombing was part of tension over a court order to integrate the schools. it was from those speeches and the civil rights act of 1964 got underway. it was not passed while kennedy was alive, but lyndon johnson signed into law the following year. david a. graham:caller: my name is lisa. i'm from oklahoma. i am so sorry about what happened. that is so evil. how a person can go into a church of god and stay there for an hour and just kill people for no reason. and people are taking it out on the flag. we have a lot of people that died for that fl

you ended up spending five nights in jail in birmingham back in 1963. >> yeah. that's exactly right. i'm on the picture that you see there. what the experience taught me was that as an american citizen i had the right to say to this country that we could be better than we had been that we owed children a good education and we owed children the opportunity to become full fledged citizens, who had the right to vote, the right to get a good education, the right to a job. that's what children in baltimore are saying right now, that they want a good education, that they want to learn to read well. and that families deserve to get good jobs and to have the skills that they need and that we all have more than we can do to make sure that our children get what they need to succeed. >> since you've written about it in your book we went back to the archives and found the nbc news coverage of that children's march in 1963. let's watch. >> with the steps of city hall objective birmingham's negros began a parade of 25 school children carried signs, one reading "god is love."

it's erie that we can celebrate or commemorate the four little girls losing their lives in birminghamand to have this now. so i really hope the president will talk about meaningful actions that we can do to change behavior so that we're not always struggling with race relations. i know it's hard. i know it's hard fought. every generation has to be vigilant in its fight against racism. i think it starts with the home. we have to not only teach our children to love and not hate but we must also as elected officials try to produce policies that promote equality. >> you think the president has done enough? >> i think the president has done a lot, and i think he's truly inspirational when it comes to the fight for equality and justice, and i think he will deliver a speech like no other. >> i'm sure he'll deliver a wonderful speech tomorrow. representative terri sewell thanks for coming in. >>> coming up breaking news we're following here in the situation room. a cnn exclusive, donald trump's reputation as a very successful business leader is indeed resonating with republican voters in new

reporter: if you're old enough to remember when four young girls were killed on a sunday morning in birminghamou remember the batons and beatings on a bridge in selma, alabama, then you knew you had witnessed evil. >> free at last. free at last. thank god all mighty, we're free at last. >> a martyr fell and laws were changed and some hearts too. but whatever happened to that affirmation of equality? perhaps the virus of racism never died. it just laid dormant only to flair up again in new ways. a man dies in police custody in baltimore, pushing people to the streets. in lots of places in our land, there is unease, distrust. aren't all men created equal? steven adams is a student at the citadel. >> i think it's a common occurrence in our society and people are becoming more and more numb to those things. >> numb to the value of another person's life. what harms our neighbor harms us. why is that so hard to understand? >>> and now to something to brighten up your friday on a day the whole country is in mourning. someone took the time to share this video to show people are good at heart. someone

. >> if you're old enough to remember when four young girls were killed on a sunday morning in birminghamhought you'd seen the worst. if you remember the batons and beatings on a bridge in selma, alabama you knew you witnessed evil. 50 years ago a it seemed racism met its match. >> free at last. thank god all mighty. we are free at last. >> it did to a point. a martyr fell laws were changed and hearts too. >> what happened to that? perhaps the racism never died, just laid dormant only to flair up in other ways. >> a man dies pushing people to the streets. in lots of places there's unease distrust. aren't all created equal? this is a student. >> i think it's common occurrence in our society. people are more and more numb to those things numb to value of another person's life. what a harms our neighbor harms us. why is that so hard to understand? harry smith, nbc news charleston. "way too early" starts right now. >>> i had got off the exit and called todd and said i think i have just pass had the boy that killed those people in charleston last night. >> the suspect captured. we'll go inside

mayor of sacramento said he's implemented police training strategies that will work that work in birmingham, alabama. >>> the man suspected of supporting for cars in the north bay is in court today. it is what was left after the fire earlier this month. it happened at a chevy dealership on redwood boulevard 46-year-old john allen bixler is accused of setting up fire causing over $100,000 in damage. >>> a new lead in the search for the two escaped killers on the run in new york for more than two weeks. brian webb reports, dna evidence linked him to a burglarized cabin in northern new york. >>> police set up roadblocks near else had new york net about 25 miles from the clinton correctional facility searching cars for escaped killers david sweat in richard matt. enforcement sources told cbs news that dna from both escapees were found in a vacant cabin that had been broken into in the wolf pond in this era not a lake we do in new york within the past 24 hours, at a news conference police would only save the recovered specific items from the cabin and they weren't seasonal cabin owners in the ar

>> it took me back, i remember as a little girl when the 16th street baptist 400 was bombed in birmingham and i was afraid to go to church. >> four limit girls were killed in that bombing. >> it forced many of us, the pain and the history of violence that has happened in our churches it was a reminder, again, we still have a lot of work to do in this country and to see those lives lost, a state snarl and pastor, a librarian a coach, people would were part of the fabric of a community and all of us have work to do on race and i don't think it is inappropriate for us to talk about what we need to do to get and keep guns out of the happens of people who would commit such a tragedy. >> there was another extraordinary scene on friday at dylann roof's first court hearing some of the relatives of the victims directly confronted him and we want to play a clip of the daughter of extent-year-old ethel lance shot dead. [ inaudible ] >> i forgive you. god have mercy on your soul. >> it breaks your heart. deneen your thoughts? >> it is heartbreaking and my hearts and prayers are with those directly af

birmingham, 1963. we endured. oklahoma city 1995. we endured. columbine. 9/11. newtown.ve endured. ♪ i once was lost ♪ >> tonight, the oldnd new images from charleston remind us how delicate our democracy, and we endure. ♪ but now i'm free ♪ >> it was the late reverend ralph abernathy who often said sunday is the most segregated day of the week in america. not this sunday one would imagine. not in charleston. tonight we are all from charleston. thank you for watching abc news. tune into "good morning america" tomorrow. as always we're online 247 on our facebook page and at abcnews.com. good night, america. hey. hi, honey. you want some eggs? don't listen to her. it's not eggs. it's that fake-egg crap. it tastes exactly the same. yes. exactly like crap. why are you making uh, fake eggs? well, your father and i went to the senior health fair yesterday. senior health fair? what are the rides there? the... complain-a-go-round? tunnel of gas? we had our cholesterol checked, and the both of us arvery c close to the danger zone. mine was lower than hers. one point lower. i'm st

west goshen east whiteland, uwchlan, westtown birmingham, east bradford, a lot of areas in chester countyincluded. i need to make mention that it is moving into delaware county right now. concord starting to see very heavy rain. marple, you are on the edge of this storm. it is severe and it will be moving in. also in media, you will be seeing a lot of the storm move in, too. media is on the edge of this storm across 476. you can expect very heavy rain from this as well. again, severe thunderstorm warning, that is now out including the philadelphia area. this storm, this entire storm system which did prompt a tornado warning, that is moving into the philadelphia area right now. it is about to move in. but it is moving into delaware county. the tornado warpg, that is still up for parts of chester county. at this point, if there were a tornado on the ground it would be considered what we call a rain-wrapped tornado. very heavy rain and in some cases the rains so heavy you can't really see a tornado on the ground. we haven't gotten any reports of a tornado on ground but we have gotten several

. >> this brings back every memory the memory of birmingham, the church bombings in 1963 the fact that mother emanuel, this historic church could be attacked in this fashion. >> yeah. andrea, this is -- i can't overstate the importance of this chump to the church to the community and charleston. that's where my mother's side of the family came from. my great great grandfather had a blacksmith shop not far from where mother emanuel stands. it was, as you said an important church in -- back in slavery times and certainly during the civil rights movement. you know first, let's hope this is indeed over. it looks to have been a lone wolf attack. but, again, if as has been reported, the suspect was involved with white supremacist activities. you know, we can only hope and make sure that there is nothing more organized going on. i guess the second thing i would point out is how many times a does this have to happen? how many times do we have to have these mass shootings? the one thing that ties them all together is the gun. there's always the gun. >> i know we're hearing the sirens. i'm not s

. >> we're going through antitlanta birmingham, little rock memphis and a bunch of other cities as well> a really smart kid and disciplined kid. >> every friday night he gathers his team not to practice baseball but to learn about their heritage to prepare them for what begins tomorrow. >> getting together every friday night the past six months studying the civil rights movement. i felt it was important with everything that went on in ferguson and baltimore this year. >> this is the same group that three years ago spent 21 days barnstorming across america learning about and celebrating the old negro leagues, attribute to jackie robinson years after he broke the color barrier. this is more than just baseball and he is more than just a coach. >> i am tough on these guys. i was very tough on them in the beginning and really set the bar high and expected a lot. and i expected them to act older than what they were. like it or not, fair or unfair, they are under the microscope and the only black team any we go. representing more than many themselves and the team. >> and he used to sell office

birmingham, 1963. we endured. oklahoma city 1995. we endured. columbine. 9/11. newtown.. ♪ i once was lost ♪ >> tonight, the old songs and new images from charleston remind us how delicate our democracy, and we endure. ♪ but now i'm free ♪ >> it was the late reverend ralph abernathy who often said sunday is the most segregated day of the week in america. not this sunday one would imagine. not in charleston. tonight we are all from charleston. thank you for watching abc news. tune into "good morning america" tomorrow. as always we're online 247 on our facebook page and at abcnews.com. good night, america. at 12, i smoked my first cigarette. at 15, i was addicted. by 40, i'll have lung disease. at 50, i'll die of a heart attack.

. >> in birmingham they love the governor.king about this governor. >> talked a lot about someone i talk a lot about. elizabeth warren. >> she doesn't have actually -- she didn't get the patent on that one. >> she certainly has the background, the message and the actions. i'm not sure why he was saying that -- i can't wait to ask him about it. >> except elizabeth warren wants to cure things the way democrats tried to cure things in connecticut. and the only problem is you destroy businesses. but feel good about yourself. >> i don't think

he killed a birmingham officer. he killed people in atlanta in the olympics. we chased him in the mountains of north carolina for five years. i mean, the fbi, the atf, the u.s. marshals, the state police agencies of georgia, north carolina, tennessee, bam balabae were all involved. it took us years. it reminds me of that and other manhunts of cop killers and so forth. we're just mortal men. we build them up in the media. and not wrongly. we build them up as dangerous and armed. and law enforcement does that from the podium because we want to keep the public safe. but they become giants. they become these big, archcriminal guys and all this stuff. and then when you catch them, this is what they are. they're a tired, hungry, desperate guy. matt had a gun, so he went down, you know, in a blaze. but this guy's just a tired, hungry guy. he's got the stolen fatigues from the hunting cabin. and what arthur said earlier i think is true. i mean, they got in a hunting cabin, probably turned the radio on. and every local station up there's talking about this and was like

birmingham, 1963. we endured. oklahoma city 1995. we endured. columbine. 9/11. newtown.♪ i once was lost ♪ >> tonight, the old songs and new images from charleston remind us how delicate our democracy, and we endure. ♪ but now i'm free ♪ >> it was the late reverend ralph abernathy who often said sunday is the most segregated day of the week in america. not this sunday one would imagine. not in charleston. tonight we are all from charleston. thank you for watching abc news. tune into "good morning america" tomorrow. as always we're online 247 on our facebook page and at abcnews.com. good night, america. [dramatic music] ♪ ♪ >> yeah! hey! [laughs] [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ welcome to millionaire. i'm so glad you've joined us because all this week we're playing for a great cause, children's miracle network hospital! [cheers and applause] it's a fantastic charity that helps kids suffering from every illness and injury imaginable get the life-saving care they need. today every time someone gets to round 2, not only will they win money for themselves we're gonna give a $10,000

king 50 years ago after four little girls were killed in a bombing in a black church in birmingham, alabama. living meaningful lives, they died nobly. they say to each of us, he said, black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution, be concerned not merely with who murdered them, but about the system, way of life and philosophy that reduce the murderers. it says to us that we must work passionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the american dream. if one will hold on, we will discover that god walks with us and that god is able to lift you despair with the buoyancy of hope and transform dark and desolate alleys into sunlit halves. -- paths. the reverend in his congregation understood that spirit. their christian faith compelled them to reach out not just to members of their congregation or two members of their own community, but to all in need. they opened their doors to strangers who might enter a church and search for redemption. mother emmanuel church and its congregation have risen from flames before. from earthquakes and other dark times, giving hope to ge

it reads in part, it's hard to imagine a birmingham leaving and bringing back a black wife.to move to california where that is sop or accepted. the letter was anonymous. so david had no idea who to respond to. so he posted a response on his facebook page and the response has been receiving overwhelming support. joining us now on skype, david anwan any shaw to talk a little bit about this situation and good morning to both of you. >> good morning. > we've got -- i heard about the criticism. i heard about the letter. and were you surprised to get that kind of negative in 2015? >> yes. absolutely. to say the least. since we've been married i don't think we ever received any kind of derogatory, negative comments. second glances of course to be expected, but other than that, that's the only negative response we've ever gotten and even since we've opened the store, the community has been highly encouraged and encouraging for us and really happy to have us here and very supportive of us since we've been here. what's interesting anwan any i'll ask you. when i heard the story, the su

temperatures right now upper 70s in birmingham, little rock, so starting to warm things up from south to north here, and our wind flow basically right out of the south. soap, that means we will easily hit the mid 80s in the city today. up in the mountains, you will see scattered thunderstorms and the shore not completely out of the woods here, i would say, especially tonight just watch for the thunderstorms to also rumble through. justin? >> good morning everyone, still pretty comfortable outside. humidity quite not here just yet, so enjoy your morning ride. traffic looking good on the 42 freeway headed into the city, headlights volume increasing little bit. speeds are looking good. southbound no problems. into the city, schuylkill expressway at spring garden, out bound traffic here are the headlights, moving good, nice dry conditions this morning so okay start to your morning drive. and here we go, area speeds, no problems, running at the speed limit in and around the city looks good in new jersey on 295 the turn peak, blue route also looking good, as well as the northeast extention,

martin luther king spoke after four young black girls were killed in the5a 1963 bombing of a birminghamut of evil, and historyua has proven over and over again that unmerited sufferingrix is redemptive, that in spite of the darknesst( of this hour, we must not despair.ç we must not become bitter.l nor must we harbor the desire to retaliate witha/; violence. life it's hard with bleak and difficult moments. >> the question is why. >> why? >> why? >> we need you lord. >> as one will hold on,=. he will discover that god walks with him and that god is able to lift you from the fatigue of despair to the buoyancy of hopem.p and transform dark and desolate valleys into sun lit paths ofv inner peace. and in greater tributelp can be paid to you as parents, and in greater epithet can comee/q to them as children. and where they die and what they were doing whenjñ they die. they died between the sacred walls of the church of god and they meaning of love. >> pelley:wjy dr. king had favorite quote that he repeated often. "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it thins toward#;e justice." we learn

but this is not a new phenomenon since four little girls were killed in the bombing of a birmingham baptistrch in 1963. there have been 13 mass murders in or near places of worship. >> security, simply an awareness. having one or two people who are focused on things that we call a dlr, don't look right. >> one expert estimates there were 176 violent incidents in places of worship in this country last year. >> we will update our coverage of the church massacre on line throughout the night. and right now you can read about the florist who spotted the alleged shooter. head to nbcwashington.com during the break and search "florist." >>> now to the severe -- that's not a good sound. now to the severe weather that rolled through our area. a viewer in chantilly captured this marble-sized hail falling this evening. >> a tree falling on a hou chopper 4 over the scene near the reston parkway. looks like the tree slice right through the roof. no injuries reported. >>> and this tree took over a baseball diamond in reston. chopper 4 through over several downed trees in residential areas near dulles airp

hope just over 50 years ago after four little girls were killed in a bombing of a black church in birminghambama. he said they lived meaningful lives they died nobly. they say to each of us dr. king said black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution, we must be concerned not merely with who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life the philosophy, which produced the murders. their death says to us that we must work passionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the american dream, and if one will hold on he will discover that god walks with him, and that god is able to lift you from the fatigue of despair to the buoyancy of hope and transform dark and desolate valleys into sun lit paths of inner peace. reverend and his congregation underthat spirit. they christian faith compelled them to reach out not just to members of their congregation or to members of their own communities, but to all in need. they opened their doors to strangers who might enter a church in search of healing for redemption. mother emmanuel church and its congregation have risen befo