there's a diversity in the cultures of black america, but they do still exist. l black institutions that are in place and functioning. the number of black people attending church may be lower, but it is not the case that they don't still exist. >> eddie, you can jump in here. >> i think it's important for us not to overstate the racial shifts. of course there will be shifts in the way that we understand how culture works, how people find their feet within any cultural spaces. how deidentities are formed butt doesn't follow from that the cultural markers whether it be black churches, a forum, a culinary practice, or simply just a style, that the degree to which it is ascribed to by younger generations via the older generations doesn't mean it's no longer a culture or fragmented in a way that it's no longer recognizable. just as people would say about james brown. there were older folks who thought james brown was kind of like nonsense. >> right. >> there were some older folks who thought my mother's hot pants was a sign of degeneration of black culture and life. s

we're not going to run out of stories on black-america and black latino america. >> john: in cry row, two of the networks you're involved with, cnn and al-jazeera have become part of the story that they did not intend. and there are great risks for journalist who is are perceived of taking sides in such a contentious conflict where people are being hurt and killed. is there a danger in the audience not knowing who to believe and trust. >> there is always a danger, and the reason why is because it matters. cnn was being challenged by the crowd when he said it was a coup. well, it matters. if it's defined as a coup that brings certain things with it. it's not just a random word that he used loosely. it matters. it matters if reporters are biased towards the muslim brotherhood or not. that's really a relevant which. then you're dealing with a crowd at a time when people are angry squared, and there could be a massacre. it's very dangerous for the journalists there. >> john: how much do you decide how much to let the audience know where your personal opinion lie in the story. i admireed y

in black and white. one america, two economies. the divide can often be drawn along racial lines.ant to bring in zane asher. you spent some time in one brooklyn community where people are struggling but determined to change their fortunes. >> yeah. i went a community that desperately wants in on this economic recovery. we know that the s&p 500 is up 18% this far and jobs coming back at a rate 200,000 a month. you go to this community i went to and think say when i get rejected from a job is it because of my name? absolutely heartbreaking. i did speak to one guy who is trying to change that, martin allen who spent 30 years in jail for robbery. he said i made some mistakes but it's my job to help young black and women get to work. take a listen. >> reporter: stocks hitting record highs and housing in recovery and unemployment falling but much of black america is feeling left behind. >> what we see every day is people struggling to put food on the table. >> reporter: at 13.7%, african-american unemployment is more than double the rate for whites. martin allen is trying to change that

now back to "black conservatives in america." >> welcome back to our special edition of "hannity." complaint about the congressional black caucus. >> yeah, as we have been talking about a variety of different topics, my concern, we're not holding the congressional black caucus accountable. they have been skrating by for years. and as a conservative, we need to demolish the cbc in itself. all of america, as my brother charles said, they get paid $175,000 a year, like every other congressional person and work on behalf of all constituents, not just blacks. look at what happened over the past six months, some of the nonsense and some of the ethics issues, we need to recognize they to a disservice to us. we look at detroit, we look at cleveland, we look at north carolina, we look all over the country, those community not doing well. >> bulldozing neighborhoods. >> absolutely. >> and get they get -- >> it's horrible. horrible. >> i promised, you are going to weigh in. >> one of the things i wanted to address early on, you asked a question, why 93% of the black vote still going to presid

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and more recently "in a shade of blue" pragmatism and the politics of black america. following eddie the reverend dr. dr. james forbes the author of 2000 hymnbook "who's gospel" a concise guide to progressive protestantism and their final panelist will be this up in conversation in a moment, obery hendricks the author of "the politics of jesus" rediscovering the two true revolutionary of jesus teachings and the universe bends towards justice radical reflections on the bible of the church and body politics. taking a launch off of professor hendricks most recent title with a "that suggest what is the most iconic and popular image of black churches in african-american religion taken them not from none other than dr. martin luther king. a whole host of assumptions from for me think about our title has the church squarely fit in american democracy and black life? reimagined black churches on the front lines marching and we forget in fact dr. king represent a minority movement. i want to invite you professor hendricks and his we move to the panel to go in whatever direction

we saw a somer barack obama talk about trayvon martin, talk about the issues of black america which weever heard before, things that have happened to him we never heard him say before. we heard him talk about the way forward. this president stepped into the conversation. and wanted to start the conversation even though he said, we will not have this public conversation emanating from the white house but said we're going to have this conversation and he became really the moral leader in chief at this point. >> here's what i was referring to, president obama shocked the press corps when is he showed.with press secretary jay carney. this was how he greeted the group of surprised reporters. >> that's so disappointing, man. >> what are you doing here? >> jay, is this the kind of respect you get? on television it usually looks like you're addressing a full room. >> just a mirage. >> all right. >> that was 90 seconds. >> i got you. all right. sorry about that. do you think anybody else is showing up? >> well, they did show up. these two showed up. peter, maybe it's because there have been oth

. >> black america should fear a non-black guy stocking a kid at night. the likelihood of a black person being killed by a non-black person is extremely remote which is why it's a big issue in the first place, piers. >> it's perfectly possible, as we've displayed on this show many times, it's justice exercised by what is happening in chicago which is an absolute national disgrace to america -- >> but you're not -- but you're not, piers. >> i am, actually. >> there are 7,000 -- >> i don't think you've watched my show. >> wait a minute -- >> i don't think you've watched my show -- >> half of the murders in this country are commented by black pult people, even though 12% of the population are black people. you throw out the old people and the young people, piers, you're talking about 3% of the population committing 50% of the murders -- >> the point i was going to make. >> it's people -- >> calm down for a moment. >> i'm quite calm. i'm bothered by how you're handling it. >> let me speak, larry. >> it's non-sense. >> you're a liberal bleeding heart person. y

for a long time when we thought about race it was a binary issue, black america and white america. now it is all kinds of things, multihued, multiethnic and racial identities ever always shifting. so when a kid grows up ats more likely that race will be an important part of their portfolio, background but not necessarily the thing that will hold them back. that's much more to do with class. chris: you know, growing up in philadelphia and being an african-american kid and going to independence hall and having your teacher take you, coming out of that, it is a plaque president. that is what led us to a truly post racial or at least part of the way there. i think it really changed the way we look at the future and past. >> no question. i think president obama has opened up a new era. complex. troublesome in some ways but in many ways very exciting and enriching. the thing that makes this country great is its diversity, the fact that it's an ongoing argument and clash of people and civilizations and people were -- from all over the porled -- world. and the president being president, it

there is not a black america and a white america and latino america. and asian america. we remain a collection of red states and blue states. we are and forever will be the united states of america. >> we want you to disburse. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> trayvon marlttin could have been me 35 years ago. >> this town is legitimate to look at the tea party. here are a group of people who are admittedly racist. >> i'm not going to -- i don't know what they're so afraid of. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> you have awakened sleeping giants. >> the time has come to pass comprehensive immigration reform. >> the first big step is, we have to have a serious border security. >> is america a divided nation? welcome to the live studio audience edition of hannity. tonight for the entire hour, we'll be tackling the most controversial issues from race relations, obama care. no topic tonight is off limits. as we've seen in the wake of the zimmerman verdict, and even following the 2012 presidential election, there is a great divide that exists here in america

can black america do more?hopefully, we can lead to a real discussion on this, not just having people go along with black america and white america, saying, hey, this is injustice. frankly, the zimmerman verdict was not legal in justice. it was at this time right verdict, given the evidence. if there is new evidence, maybe d.o.j. should bring a case. >> if i could respond to that. i appreciate the sentiment that ford is articulating. i take issue with two things, the setup, your question to him in which you suggested that it's the president who is injecting race into the discussion. i think anybody who was watching this trayvon martin case understood that race was a big, maybe "the" major issue that was going on, in addition to the evidence -- >> julian! hold on one second. i agree with you! but not everyone is the president of the united states and not everybody is a harvard trained, legal, lawyer. as such, he has to recognize as a black american, a president and a lawyer, he has to know how his comments can b

there is not a black america and a white america and latino america. and asian america.tates and blue states. will be united states of america. >> we want you to disburse. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> trayvon marlttin could have been me 35 years ago. >> this town is legitimate to look at the tea party.

but i'm not at all convinced that sharpton and the other so-called leaders of the black america are going any place any time soon. >> bill: i don't think they are going anywhere but i think their influence is on the wane. i really do. so much trouble in places like the south side of chicago. there is is so much pain there. >> but it's also -- it's also on the wane for a very good and upbeat reason. they have succeeded. we're not in 1960 or 55 anymore. the progress has been so great that there is less for them to do than there was more martin luther king to do. >> bill: acknowledge that i'm hoping that damages their credibility. >> that's right. >> bill: thanks very much. karl rove on deck. there is a split in the republican party over obama care of all things. and then the factor tip of the day concerning anthony weiner's wife. those reports after these messages. we fund obama care. now, some conservatives believe that would be a good thing. others say any attempt to deny money it to the new law would hurt the republican party because the government would shut down. joining us now from au

president obama is certainly not the president of black america. the president of the united states of america. and those of us in the african american community who feel he should comment more forcefully on the role of race in this issue get that. however, black americans are part of the united states of america, and what we're frustrated with is we've heard him weigh in on controversial issues with the gay community and the latino community. he hasn't been uncomfortable to weigh in with other minority groups, and we have not seen that level of consistency with the black community. i'm not sure what jay is talking about he hasn't shied away. i can count on less than one hand the times he's addressed race since he became president. if i can't handle controversy, he should have picked another line of work. >> kelly has a point. he was criticized by none other than reverend jesse jackson, for example, when he waited a very long time to comment on the incredible surge of black on black violence in chicago. it's just another example of a racial issue h

michelle, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> this is the huge occasion in black america everyings the top issues, concerns as well as entertainment and enlightenment with empower. . it's really fantastic. tell people around the country what it is that you really hope people leave here with today. >> well, as you said, this is just an extraordinary celebration of the community of essence readers. and what you feel throughout the weekend is the love of community, the connection that people have with each other, the sense of being at home, having a great time, and focusing on the issues. we want people to leave knowing that there is so much joy and optimism and purpose within the african-american community, that there is a great deal of hope and happiness. and it is fantastic. >> well, one of the things i saw this morning, you had mothers who had lost their children to violence. and brightening up their lives and honoring them in their strength. and one thing that essence does is directly shows the struggles, even in these contemporary times that black women have to go through fr

so this is a key moment to reflect on 50 years later and what kind of progress have we made in black america? so, to start out with, i'm going to ask you each to comment on what you see as the impact of these three events on black political culture what they say about what kind of progress is or is not being made in the 21st century. >> thank you, tina. thank you all for being here. that's a very provocative question. it's difficult to come up with quick answers in the heat of this particular moment, but i'll try to address it. i think those three -- they're all three legal interventions, so to speak, at this moment. tell us the importance of understanding what racial progress has meant historically, progress that -- the historical nature of what we call progress in the area of race, equality, is always characterized by movement forward and retrenchment. so, that there's never any straight sense of progress. we can look and say that we certainly have made great strides since then 1963 march on washington, and one of the key things we accomplished following that march was the voting rights ac

and especially for young black men in america. he didn't do it. >> on the royal front you can't get a whiter story than that i mean, you know. i'm just amazed at the amount of people, you look at the cable news ragdz who you never watch news. i mean, they are not here every -- but then when baby spike oar whatever they name him shows up, they can't get enough there is no news on the baby he is born. we don't know if he spit up. there is nothing i have been thinking about this all day. first, make me care about this story. you can't do it. that's number one. number two, you spend time at harvard so you are really -- you are the real prince of can't burry. this kid is an imposture, that's number two. number three, we have this fascination with celebrity. we are a people magazine culture. so we don't have a king and queen and prince. they do. so we latch on to that. but i think it's a bigger story for women than real men like you and me. because we're. >> i'm not condescending to the story. i'm just amazed that it has so much intere

of racism -- some parts of the conservative movement have said this is a problem in and among black america we don't need to do anything about it. jason riley in the "wall street journal" says young black men will not change how they are perceived until they change how they became. >> there are too many in the white community who see violence in the black community and think that's their problem. he ultimately says it's our problem. >> it depends whether you look at it systemically or not. problem with looking at a trial is you are looking at a sample size of one. that's a difficult way to assess any kind of national problem. in this incident occurred in times square you'd have four camera angles on it and a very different proceeding. and if have you vong evidencest of a murder you would play out and if it looked different you probably wouldn't have a prosecution. this had is about as any trial is, evidence, fir aarnsd for fi foremost. it also had racism built in. we saw overcharging regardless of race but i don't think it works well to do it on an end of one. when i worked at new york coun

we have to figure out what is the pace for which a black man can walk in america and be beyond suspicionoung black man can walk. i want to bring in these three women, cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor sunny hostin. also jenny hutt. and donna brazile, cnn political analyst. sunny, let me begin with you. you were sitting there next to charles. also i know you have -- he's younger, but a 10-year-old son. what do -- this is like the sparking of conversations i know across the country. >> well, it's interesting. my son's school did discuss the trayvon martin case. so i didn't inject the case into our home. i oftentimes don't talk about work at home with my children. but he asked me several questions about it. he's away at sleepaway camp. i don't know that he knows what the verdict was. but i will tell you, as a mother of a brown boy, it has caused my husband and i to have this discussion. what do we tell him now? not only about the verdict, but about perhaps how he is perceived in the united states. how he may be perceived by other people. he is a very tall child. he's a thin boy.

america for black folks and america for white folks. and for people of color in general. the way that law enforcement, our media and our larger culture deals with our community is really underscored by this trayvon martin issue. and the verdict and the reaction that we're seeing from everyday people hopefully will spur ongoing conversations that are needed. and a larger movement for real policy and culture change. >> have you -- you've had this conversation, i assume, karen, with your son? oh, unfortunately, i think we've we'll have her back another en. time. want to thank karen grigsby bates for some good stuff. give us a thought right now, rashad, best case scenario, something positive emerging from what the country has gone through as a result of this trial. >> i think something positive would be some closure for trayvon's parents. and the justice department, we just saw, eric holder talk about the investigation. but the justice department stepping in and provide something closure for the family and some justice for a lot of people who have been watching this. but also

he then talked about his own experiences about being a black man in america. >> the speech touched on the complexity of relations between white and black americans and how the shooting and its aftermath were equally informed and complicated by america's difficult history with race. >> first of all, i want to make sure that, once again, i send my thoughts and prayers as well as michelle's to the family of trayvon martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they've dealt with the entire situation. i can only imagine what they're going through, and it's remarkable how they've handled it. the second thing i want to say is to reiterate what i said on sunday which is there are going to be a lot of arguments about the legal issues in the case. i'll let all the legal analysts and talking heads address those issues. the judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. the prosecution and the defense made their arguments. the jurors were properly instructed that in a case such as this, reasonable doubt was relevant and they rendered a verdict. and once the jury's spo

black men. i don't know why it is, but there's something in america that black men still get treated differently than white men, so i don't blame them for feeling that. that doesn't mean i think this case is about race. it really doesn't. it's about what's in people's hearts. >> there are people saying maybe the black men are committing most of the crime in that area. >> they may be. they may be committing them on other black men, too, this idea that it's blacks and whites, i'm is just saying that race in america is not gone. the president of the united states i don't think helped things by putting himself into a local criminal case saying trayvon martin looks like he could be his son or whatever else. you know, that -- you know, traditionally the president may get involved in a civil rights case, by commenting on this case he was elevating its status to perhaps a several rights case and i wonder if that aggravated the situation. >> how is it -- how is the president bringing race into it he's saying he could be my son, the president is a man of color, trayvon martin is a man of color, how is it

. >> a permanent reflection on being black in america.artin and claims racism in this country won't go away simply. >> keep it right here, america. "nightline" is back in just 60 seconds. >>> from new york city, this is "nightline" with bill weir. >> thanks for being with us this friday. found in every social the killer whale is among the most lethal apex predators on the planet if you happen to be a fish or a seal. yeah, despite their fearsome size and monster bite and that name, man is none on the menu but captive killer whales have turned on their trainers over the years and the most recent one inspired "blackfish" which questions the wisdom and morality of keeping them in tanks for tourist, but seaworld is fighting back in a big way which means the film may get a bigger audience than anyone imagined. here's abc's linsey davis. >> reporter: the scene seems so joyful. video of seaworld trainer dawn brancheau performing with tilikum, a spectacular killer whale. she plays with him, bonds with him as they lie down together in shallow water

we have got to go all the way back and look at what happened to the black people in america from slavery up to now. you will find out why the black man does not take care of his son. during slavery, we would breed babies because we were made to do that. back to the dope and drugs. the drugs are coming into the communities and there are no jobs. guest: obviously, no responsibility, somebody else's problem. our founding fathers certainly have irresponsibility to make sure that slavery never found itself on our soil. there is no excuse for drugs. there is no excuse for fathers his not being a father for their kids or being a role model. the best fathers not being a father to their kids or being -- fathers not being fathers to their kids are being a role model. we can look at death row and the cases where an innocent person was put on death row. tactics used by police are not used to identify criminals. they are identifying crime and trying to get to a conclusion. they are not trying to identify the actual perpetrators. they are trying to get to a conclusion. to go back to what armstrong was

and sort of find out if people felt racism, if they were going to vote for a black candidate, but that pure question, is americaor a black president? that changed through the course of the 2008 campaign and his presidency. by his example, people have changed their understanding and that's why his perspective, some of the right were saying he was being narcissistic by talking about himself, but actually his perspective on this is very immediate. people can understand that he is, to quote, to paraphrase what the voters see about him as being likable enough, as being acceptable in middle class company, and so here is someone whose perspective can be incredibly insightful. now, is that enough of a conversation? absolutely not. but if you look at what that balance he is striking, individual responsibility, how we all have a collective responsibility to figure out where the laws are falling short. i think that, you know, that was a big step forward today, but it's just the start. >> peter, i want to ask you, matt drudge has already manipulated a photo of president obama in a hoodie looking like trayvon martin. sean h

is a very famous columnist, a very knowledgeable columnist who wrote an article saying "wake up black america." what's that all about? we'll see you right after sanjay gupta. >>> welcome to "sgmd." we have a rare look inside a village where every single resident has severe dementia. i will tell you it's the most humane things i've ever seen. >>> also treating cancer with marijuana. i'll show you why some doctors don't think it's such a crazy idea. >>> but, first, a new battle over the rules and the laws surrounding abortion. in texas they filibustered, talking for 11 hours straight. >> and that the physician should give a report. >> in north carolina they rallied. >> according to an institute, about one in three american women has had an abortion, but today more than 20 states are implementing laws to restrict the procedure. most dramatic, north dakota, they say no abortions allowed once the heartbeat can be heard and that's usually around six weeks. sometimes before a woman even knows she's pregnant. that law's being challenged in court. in texas, governor rick perry signed a law banning abo

have somebody black people have so much money power status but never in the history of black america have so many black professionals been afraid intimidated deferential to power supply subservient to the status quo we used to have elements of black pit bulls was it ever tell the truth in our churches and lawyers and doctors now so many of them a bought off so many of us selling out and it's a sad thing to see that's what i mean by the moral bankruptcy of so much of the black liberals in the black professional class we can bounce back but we have to tell the truth about who and barack obama in many ways is exemplary. of that moral bankruptcy and that moral inconsistency in terms of turning his back to the new jim crow turning his back to the black poor turning his back to those folks who are dealing with brutal circumstances privatizing of education you see in decent housing. in a indescribable levels of massive unemployment and underemployment of people who haven't been employed for years upon years don't even figure not even on the radar screen in the statistics that come out of th

if you were to poll black folks days ago in barber shops and beauty salons, no one expected in black america that this outcome would be different. we were hoping against hope that justice might be served here, at least the way we see it. 50 years does it say after the march on washington that we will celebrate in a few days from now that so many in the african-american community and beyond have so little hope, so little faith and trust in our system of jurisprudence? >> it is a devastating indictment. unless one wants to make an irrational argument that all african-americans are paranoid and delusional -- of course, there are some people who would, but most reasonable people would -- if you are not going to go that route, you have to ask the question. e amicans -- why are african-american so injured, so suspicious, so unhopeful about the so-called great democracy with a great judicial system? when you asked that question seriously, the evidence that mounts for deep unjust treatment, unjust application of ,aw on all kinds of levels unjust levels of sentencing, surveillance, illegitimate modes

. - the rens played basketball in the heart of black america in the twenties and thirties--new york's harlem. as a precursor to the harlem globetrotters, the all-black team couldn't even play on the same court with whites. many say they were the best basketball team to ever play the game. they paved the way for integration in the nba, a fact not lost on one of its most famous alumni. - it really helped me understand that basketball players today, especially african-american basketball players today, owe these guys something because they set standards, and because of what these men had done, everybody realized that not all the best athletes were playing in the nba. and within 3 years, the nba integrated. - abdul-jabbar was so inspired that he produced the documentary, but there's even more to this hall-of-famer than meets the eye. you are not just an athlete. how do you want people to know you or remember you? - basically it's i can do more than stuff a ball through a hoop. i feel that my greatest asset is my mind. i've tried to make that obvious by the things that i do. - he's an auth

this is a reality for far too many black americans. >> wait a minute. america treats people equally. we have a black president. europe has never had a black president -- nowhere. no other country on the planet offers the opportunity this is great nation affords all of its citizens, regardless of race. who are the real race baiters? sometimes the ones crying the foul the loudest are the biggest offenders. now, bob, have you to admit, things were getting better. things felt good. president obama was going to be the first post racial president. now this cbc spokesperson. >> you felt good because you had a black president. oh, good, we handled our black problem. one thing i agree with. when she talks about black people being profiled in their car, walking through stores, when they are followed around when they want to shop-- the idea that somebody could believe that there is no racism in america is silly. now, when she said blacks are not of equal value as whites, i don't agree with that. i think they are accorded that. but the idea that racism is not around in ame

there are many many organizations but app my concern is that there is a state of emergency in black america and that's really a part of what's this trayvon martin case of the bottom of the zimmerman verdict is all about with this tremendous you know unemployment under-employment joblessness joblessness crime fratricide bias mass incarceration and it's an issue that almost nobody is paying attention to and we keep screaming there is a state of emergency in black america and particularly among those who've been left out the civil rights human rights movement obviously produce large numbers of black people who have gone into the middle class who are doing quite well we've got mayors we have has a corporate. corporate executives but for those people in the urban areas there's been no or been policy for many many years tremendous disinvestment right in the end decimalization is william julius wilson this work as distant disappeared and what's been left behind is this combustible calm a cauldron of dysfunction which again these need some attention so for us it's not just a matter of ending the wa

now back to the hannity special black conservatives in america. >>> welcome back to our special editionrendition composed of black conservatives. you are a member of the fed rick douglas foundation. we talked during the break, you have a complaint about the congressional caucus. >> yes, as we talk about a variety of different topics, by biggest concern is that disservice to us. we look at detroit and cleveland, we look at north carolina, we can go all over the country, and those communities are not doing well. >> they are bulldozing neighborhoods. >> absolutely. >> it's horrible. it's horrible. go ahead. i promise, you're going to weigh in. >> one of the things i wanted to address early on, you asked the question and said why 93% of the votes went to president obama, and nobody addressed that. and when you think spiritually of the issues that affect the black community, you have to talk about idolatry, and that's exalting something above god, right? when you look at what happened in the second term, not the first term, because i think everybody got caught up in this, oh, my goodness, bl

this is a reality for far too many black americans. >> wait a minute. america treats people equally. we have a black president, europe even has never had a black president nowhere. no other country on the planet offers the kind of opportunities this great nation affords all its citizens, regardless of race. so who are the real race baiters? sometimes those crying the foulest are the worst. president obama was going to be the first post racial president. then this all starts up. he, holder, now the cdc spokesperson. >> felt good to get your black president, say good, we have a black problem. this is what this woman said. one thing i agree with, one i don't. she talks about black people being profiled, whether it is in their cars, walking through stores, when they're followed around, all they want to do is shop. any number of -- the idea that somebody could believe there's no racism in america is silly. she said blacks are not of equal value as whites, i don't agree, i think they are accorded that. but the idea that racism is not around in america is crazy. >> go

listen to this. >> i believe the root of the black crime problem in america is the disintegration of can family. you've got to stop young black women from having babies out of wedlock. you got to discourage that actively. >> so, i mean, i don't know anybody that is not been dealing in the black community and the civil rights community with the black family and the need to strengthen it. we're dealing with births. we're dealing with the whole question of violence. i mean, you know that. i talked about it on the show last night. not only did we do a lot on trayvon martin here, when heidi ya pendelton was killed by blacks in chicago, we put her mother on this show first and i stayed on that. but they will not deal with the question of inequality. we want to deal with all of it. they only want to deal with anything other than the fact that we still have a challenge of racial injustice and profiling in this country. >> i think it's appropriate you have joe on because both of you come from the talk radio world. i used to come from there. and if you understand bill o'reilly from this world a

and that was one we're not a white america, we're not a black america. we're the united states of america and it feels like we need to hear those words perhaps again. we'll see. we'll see where this goes. chris, thank you very much. >> you bet. >>> now, to the other big breaking story we just mentioned. we've just confirmed that the justice department soliciting tips from the public. they are now doing that and that may help in the filing of potential hate crime charges against george zimmerman. the doj set up a public e-mail address where pretty much anybody can weigh in. the effort comes despite the fact that the fbi in a previous investigation found no evidence of any kind of racial bias. joining me now is former justice department lawyer tom dupree. there's setting up an e-mail where pretty much anybody can kind of weigh in on any kind of, i don't know, things they've seen in the past, george zimmerman might have had some kind of racial bias. is this unusual for the doj to do? >> it is unusual. they've done it in other cases. they did it, for example