-- blackface is blackface.ould not be accepted or condoned at any time. amy: finally, this is the of00ths -- 400th anniversary enslaved africans first being brought to jamestown. can you talk about the significance of this for virginia and what it would mean if the lieutenant governor, justin fairfax, becomes governor, the only black governor in the country? rev. chandler: it is a time of virginia getting past the hurtful history which it has. with thise deal racism, whether it be charlottesville, photos in the be an emtwhether it worker in patrick county, it cannot happen. , as citizens in 2019, should be bebeyond this thiningf racism. although virginia has a history. we cannot deny that history. but we do not need to continue to relive that. so lieutenant governor justin fairfax spoke volumes and where it was -- he sat out by himself. just seeing that picture of him by himself. the virginia state conference, as he becomes the governor, we will stand beside him in the efforts of moving virginia forward and hea

it's blackface.disrespectful to not only the african-american community but all of us as a whole. when we have these individuals who are in these positions who have done such, i think we have to ask ourselves now what? i'm not perfect. no one is perfect. everyone has things in their past. so now we have to figure out since you're still in these positions, what can we do to actually make a change? and i think that the commonwealth of virginia has the opportunity to do so. there can be a shift in policy, a shift in resources. let's do it. >> i got you. >> yes, sir. >> real quick because i've got to run. one, you said you know all three of them and it's not up to you to decide if they should resign, including fairfax, including for sexual aharassment allegations. you said it's not up to you. >> yes, sir. >> the other thing is, and i remember the other thing i wanted to say to chris. this is black history month. what a lesson for black history month, right? >> a very poignant lesson. i'm an elected offic

if somebody finds an old blackface picture of you, i'll say it's me. me, i ain't got a job. don't resign from your job in disgrace, let me protect you for the low price of $850,000. you can get that from your mamma. >> governor, is this a yearbook photo of you in blackface? >> it was me. >> that doesn't look like you. >> that's because you're a racist! leo deblin, blackface protection. don't worry about looking black as long as you can pay white. got my money, bitch? >> i got it. ♪ leo deblin blackface protection, an institute of buy a friend ♪ >> next to foot locker. use promo code racist for ten% off! >> trevor: roy wood, jr., everybody, we'll be right back! ( cheers and applause ) i'll take a coke. is pepsi ok? is pepsi, ok? is pepsi, ok!? [laughter] are puppies, ok? is a shooting star, ok? is the laughter of a small child, ok? pepsi's more than, ok! it's okayyyy okurrrr ♪ i like it okay, what have we learned today? you want a pepsi? i want a pepsi. there you go. okurrr. aaahh. i've got to come up with my own catch phrase. okayyy what's a gig of dat

about blackface.vement in it is an important subject and the country must confront the part of our racist past. those who did it or lied about it shouldn't hold office. past actions matter. our present is filled with gigantic bronze embodiments of that same racism." he goes on to say that virginia lawmakers should remove confederate statues that still stand today. what do you think, david? >> so, it was a strong op-ped. it was written almost like someone who was thinking about running for governor or senator, quite frankly. and i think he made a strong case against blackface, against racism, both personal and institutional, and also against monuments. what it underscored for me in addition to learning a little bit of history was that part of what we faced the last few days with the elected leaders in virginia is is even if personally they've changed or say they've changed or they've apologized or moved on, it's when you have things like confederate statues that are at issue in virginia cities and town

kelly has never appeared in blackface, never performed next to someone in blackface. she merely asked a question about blackface. you can't say the same thing for tom hanks though. watch this. >> 5,000 shares ideal over this guy 5,000 [inaudible] anybody else? >> tucker: tom hanks works in the movie business his peers would be deeply offended by the tape they saw they are not. once produced a lead character character wore blackface much of the film. soul man came out in 1986. a long time ago. after ronald reagan martin luther king the subject of a national holiday. attitudes in america weren't much that different back then. blackface was not a mainstream phenomenon in 1986. hollywood just couldn't imagine living by its own rules then or now. it's pretty clear that the very people most likely to wear blackface are also the most likely to demand that you get fired if you do the same. that's the definition of hypocrisy. but, it's deeper than that hypocrisy isn't simply a recurring feature of modern liberalism. it's the whole point of it. being a progressive allows you to

>> yes, i'm sorry, blackface, that are in there. i believe, i don't know if they've released it yet but i think eastern virginia medical school is in the process of reviewing each of their yearbooks and will put a statement out that it is unacceptable and that we need to make a change as we move forward. >> reporter: governor, in the last 24 hours, you've had time to recollect and think back on your experiences, talk to your family and roommates. shouldn't those discussions have taken place before you came out and released a written statement and then a video statement? if that was a mistake, maybe a misjudgment, why should the people of virginia trust your judgment going forward on other issues? >> i've always been straightforward with folks and honest. that's what i'm doing now. and again, just to see this horrific picture yesterday evening, that was on my page with my name over the top of it. that was horrifying to me. and so i did feel it was necessary to reach out and discuss that, as i said, and i'm not going to be redundant,

we had a very candid talk about blackface.ople watching other leaders, clergy, they should be in churches tomorrow, talking about blackface and race and people think that blackface is just in virginia, they're totally wrong, this is a national issue. it just unfolded and played out in the state of virginia. but blackface is a national issue. >> do you believe that the lieutenant governor who is now accused twice of sexual assault, that he should stay in office or do you believe he should heed calls for him to resign as well? >> well, victor, i have not spoken to the lieutenant governor, but i'm sure open to talk to him, i'm open to talking to the attorney general. i believe through those kinds of communication the right answers can come out. as long as people continue to point the finger and criticize and this one should step down and that one should step down, first look at yourselves. nobody is perfect out here. everybody has made mistakes. some of the very people calling for these people to step down, they may have dirty la

herring is the one that wore blackface. and northam wore blackface. if it's meriting a resignation, so too, should it be for herring but they are not consistent. double standard. all politics for the democratic party. >> larry, it gets infuriating. when you stand on common set of principle, there is nothing to -- you just say what you said before because it mattered to you. what bothers me, look at herring. he appears to be the biggest hypocrite at all. he was one of the first people to jump out and go after the governor northam for the blackface. knowing he had this in the past. there are a lot of trouble with democrats in virginia right now. it's a mess. >> well, they are, dan. you can nail the a.g. for the hypocrisy. i take issue with the idea that the blackface pictures suggest bad character. c'mon, have perspective here. 1984 was the governor's blackface photograph. he was 25 years old. if you look at the photograph, i thought they were mocking racism, mocking the klan, mocking people wearing the blackface. the a.g. was 19. he wore blackface beca

they're very clear public incidents of, you know, groups protesting blackface, of blackface -- they blowthere's a cultural conversation around blackface. we have multiple incidents of blackface that have come up in the past couple of months alone, the past couple of days alone and this is in addition to other incidents that have come up in october. even if we move it out of the realm of hard politics, you can look at gu chi we just had a blackface incident this week, prada which had one a couple of months ago and see that, you know, claiming cultural ignorance is no longer an option and instead what we have to look at is, why do people think they won't get caught or why is this okay? >> i wanted to ask you about your tweet, leah. our people shocked by the blackface or shocked that folks get caught? to your point, which do you think it is? >> i think the real -- what's underneath this is the shock that people get caught and so there are a couple of things as we think about this. one, there's a real, you know, disappointment that it continues to happen over and over again. there's also a d

-elected leaders participating in our promoting blackface.is a clip of ronald reagan introducing a white p performern blackface i in the 1943 fililm, "this is the ay." i i was strolling out one evening by the silvery moon i could hear somebody singing a famililiar tune though i stopped a while to listen ♪ thahat a white perfrformer in blackckce i in te -- film being introduced by ronald reagan. professor, can you elaborate on this history and how it has gone rgely, untntil now, on reportt - unremamarked upon? >> i thihink it depends on w whu are asking him whwhether it is remarked upon. spike lee has a film called "bamboozled" in which he looks at a number of different racial and ethnic backgrounds of performers. in some ways, they didn't stand themselves for the -- they distanced themselves for the -- thet -- it is discrimination they faced. it is s about boundaryry and inclususion. you have ted danson appearing at the friars club in blackfaface. and every year on college campuses, those of us who t teah young people hold our b breaths durin

day schools and they dress up in blackface, basically it means you're calling me -- blackface goes backe mid-19th century where people were dressing up showing them to be lazy, to be ignorant, hypersexual and to be all-out disrespectful to our culture. so when i see images like this, haerngs it harkens on the fact we have a serious issue with racism in this country. governor northam doesn't understand his own actions. it's traumatizing when we sit here and critique it because i'm like, jake and everyone eshllse can people just not be race snift can that be the bar? democrats who want to hem and haw, i have no time for you. we need to set a standard that racism will not be tolerated in our party or political discourse, especially in 2000. the last thing i'll tell you. we talk about systemic racism all the time. the fact you have doctors who dress up in blackface, who wear kkk garb. >> at least one other image of a different person in blackface. >> that goes to question -- you have these doctors. how do we think they are caring for african-americans in their care when they do not even loo

in plain english, blackface.ds now reticent about wearing blackface. keeping them honest, when a white person puts stuff on himself to copy a black person, it's called blackface. his boss, the governor, ralph northam, here's what he said over the weekend when asked about it directly. >> were you in blackface at that time? >> i wasn't. i mean, i'll tell you exactly what i did, alan. i dressed up in a, um -- what's his name? the singer? michael jackson, excuse me. that's why i have pam with me. i had the shoes, i had a glove, and i used just a little bit of shoe polish to put under my -- or, on my cheeks, and the reason i used a very little bit is because, i don't know if anybody's ever tried that, but you cannot get shoe polish off. >> so he put shoe polish on his cheeks, he says it wasn't blackface. the attorney general covered his face in brown makeup and says it was a kurtis blow tribute. he has, by the way, a record in public life as a progressive, including on issues of race, and this was 38 years ago, a gene

and now a fourth state official caught up in a blackface scandal and more.llison barber reporting live from richmond. >> hi, shepard. dr. vanessa tyson says that lieutenant governor justin fairfax sexually assaulted her in boston during the 2004 dnc convention. fairfax claims that encounter was consensual but that the detailed statement released by dr. tyson yesterday has led to a resignation call from the national organization for women and calls for an investigation from one incredibly high profile democrat. >> i think that the letter

, people kept using blackface.r that virginia attorney general, mark herring, admitted to putting on blackface in 1980. that photo of governor northam's yearbook page, right? that was 1984. actor ted danson put on blackface and used the n-word at a friar's club roast with his then-girlfriend, whoopi goldberg. the former of michael orrtel, who apologized and resigned after a photo emerged of nim blackface dressed up with what he thought was a katrina victim, that was 2005. and fashion house gucci apologizing now for selling a turtleneck sweater that pulls up over the face with oversized lips over the mouth. make no mistake, that is blackface. it was pulled from the brand's site yesterday. just yesterday. america's not new to this controversy. but why does it keep happening? a lot to discuss. david swerdlick, wes lowry, here to talk about it. we're going to dig in, next. cosentyx can help people with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis find clear skin that can last. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before st

two top elected officials are now on record of wearing blackface years ago. the lieutenant governor is accused of sexual assault by a person. the democratic party in full crisis mode. and the story is still unfolding. we'll bring you up to date after another, i guess, remarkable day in virginia. >>> we'll also talk to director spike lee about what he says about the country and race. and later, with the deadline for the next government shutdown approaching, we've got new word on how talks to prevent it are going. i'll ask one of the lawmakers taking part in the investigation whether he thinks compromise is possible on the wall and what the president wants. before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, marie could only imagine enjoying freshly squeezed orange juice. now no fruit is forbidden. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? for all-day, all-night protection. ♪ ♪ this simple banana peel represents a bold idea: a way to create energy from household trash. it n

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none of them wore blackface. it takes a mentality to add blackface to a michael jackson costume, the same mentality that you would stand with a ku klux klan robed person or wear blackface yourself, or have it on your yearbook page. he also admitted that his nickname in school was coon man. maybe they felt it was appropriate for you to be remembered that way because year books are your statement going into how your life will be as you prepare to go on with your life. governor, you should resign. and as i said earlier, since you brought up michael jackson, i repeat, you should listen to a michael jackson song in the governor's mansion tonight and start packing and beat it. let's bring in democratic virginia delegate lamont bagby, democratic strategist and virginia native, otmar omar. and tim wise, author and anti-racism activist. let me go to you first, delegate. the black caucus of virginia has called on the governor's resignation. has that changed since his press conference this afternoon? >> no, rev. it has not

jimmy fallon and 20000 silvers sarah silverman who dressed up in blackface for comedy central. this is just the latest sad disturbing example of the hypocrisy of the left of it is every two years, every four years, republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, islamic phobic but tonight their action speaks a much louder than their words. that brings us to the third virginia democrat and for old and a serious scandal. that is just in fairfax facing serious allegation of violent sexual assault his accuser released a detailed statement claiming that fairfax physicall physically forced her to perfor oral on him in a hotel room at the 2004 democratic convention in boston. last year she reportedly confided in bobby scott about the incident. he did nothing. so much for me to an cheat reported a story to the th washington post they did nothin because they called it a he sai she said matter. the post was more than happy to obsess about the he said she said just a few months ago. no matter how unverified unsubstantiated the claims i believe was the phrase of the day. flushing the u.s. cons

reporter: are you referring to blackface? governor northam: yes, blackface, pardon me. and i think eastern virginia medical school is in the process of reviewing each of their yearbooks, and will put a statement out that it is unacceptable and we need to make a change as we move forward. reporter: in the last 24 hours, have you had the time to recollect, think about your experience with your family and former roommate, should you have had these discussions before you came out with the written statement and the video statement? if that was a mistake, maybe a misjudgment, why should the people of virginia trust your judgment going forward on other issues? governor northam: i've always been straightforward with folks and honest, and that's what i am doing now. and again, just to see this horrific picture yesterday evening that was on my page with my name over the top of it, that was horrifying to me. so i did feel it was necessary to reach out and discuss that, as i have said, and i'm not going to be redundant but in the last 24 hours, i have been able to review the pictur

he did say he used blackface to dress as michael jackson.id the governor get any support today in the meetings he had with his cabinet and staff? >> reporter: the short answer is it doesn't appear that he did. there has been a lot of condemnation from folks here in richmond on the governor. that seemed to not have moved him. so the pressure now is what does his cabinet do? what do the people close to him do in response to this, and that's what we're waiting to hear. he did finish up with those meetings a short time ago. he had a cabinet meeting and an all-staff meeting. a democrat who was briefed on those meetings told me he asked more more time, as you said. it's kind of been his mantra in the last 48 hours of this controversy. he wants more time to figure out what is next for him. obviously, as you correctly noted, he has a credibility issue at this point. friday he said he wasn't in the photo. saturday he had that bizarre press conference where he raised questions about whether he is telling the truth at all, and that has all contributed

on blackface or kkk robes in his med school yearbook. and what about his picture in the virginia military institute yearbook, the one captioned with the racial slur coonman, an ugly word? and i hate that we have to use it. but you need to know the facts. >> there were two individuals, as best i can recollect, at vmi. they were a year ahead of me. they called me coonman. i don't know their motives or intent. >> and as governor northam battles for his political life now, lieutenant governor justin fairfax, the man who would replace him if he were to resign, is calling a sexual assault allegation against him a totally fabricated story out of the blue. a story that was published on the same right-wing website that broke the story of that racist photo in ralph northam's yearbook. >> does anybody think it's any coincidence on the eve of potentially my being elevated, that's when this uncorroborated smear comes out? >> twhen asked if governor northam thinks he was -- he has -- >> all this leads us back to the big question. why would governor no

blackface, indefensible. of a standard are we setting then for teenage years and early 20s relative to limitations that you can't run for office, you can never be a public servant. people have life changing experiences and get on a better path. well, in any event, i want to know what you think. the website has already crashed once today. go to smerconish.com. answer today's survey. should virginia governor ralph northam resign in light of appearing in the blackface/kkk photo. tomorrow, super bowl liii, vams versus patriots. it's the first one people other than the state of nevada can legally vote on the game. will this bring added value or ruin them? roger stone didn't get with conspiracy, donald trump, jr.'s calls weren't to his father. does this avoid prosecution by the mueller probe? savor card. earn 4% cash back on dining and 4% on entertainment. now when you go out, you cash in. what's in your wallet? you should be mad they gave this guy a promotion. you should be mad at forced camaraderie. and you shoul

the naacps calling on attorney general mark herring to resign after admitting that he dressed in blackfacehile he was in college at uva. virginia senator tim kaine sayt toni all of this has him in shock. >> this week has just made me sick, you ow, it's just made me sick. from friday to now, it's just been one bit of bad news after the next. >> our team coverage on the continued crisis in theeg commonwealths tonight with northern virginia bureau chief julie carey in richmond. >> reporter: the impact of the latest revelation evident inhe reaction of stateenator louise lucas, normally a forceful voice in the black caucus, she was overwhelmed as she left the capitol surunded by reporters looking for comment. she was barely able to get out a feds w >> i just can't talk right now. >> reporter: the latest bombshell came this morning whem attorney generk herring met with members of the black caucus to tell themik that governor ralph northam he once appeared in blackface. herring said it hpened when he was a 19-year-old college student back in 1980 when he put brown paint on his ce and wore wig to

and heb is the one in the blackface with the klan outfit. does someone owe him an apology at some point? >> no. gillespie ran a campaign -- >> tucker: okay. >> he ran a campaign all about the statue of robert e. lee. what does that stand for? who is that appealing to? you know who that is appealing to? can i tell you who that is appealing to? >> it's not true. >> 1984 ralph northam and people just like it. >> tucker: i live here. okay? >> yeah. >> tucker: right across the river from virginia. he dud not run a campaign that was going all about robert e. lee statue. there is no evidence he is a racist. i don't think there is a picture of ed gillespie in blackface or a klan hood. if the guy in the klanhood is calling you a racist maybe you deserve an apology. that is all i'm saying. do you think or no? >> i don't think he deserves a apology. his campaign did race-baiting. not just the robert e. lee statue. the hoodies are coming to get you. look, it is what it is. it's politics. that is what it was. that is the campaign. ed gillespie not even f

no, i didn't do blackface that time. this other time i certainly did. >> in the same year. >> confessing to a racist act no matter what should be disqualifying for anyone leading a state. and so what i think -- what needs to happen now is democrats, americans, and virginians, have to have a gut-check moment about their values and zero tolerance for racist acts. >> and i think that's the point, shermichael, is that, you know, you accused of robbing a bank i said last night, say, no, i didn't rob chase manhattan bank, i robbed wells fargo. >> right. you're a bank robber. >> he was defense, no, i did not wear blackface and my fellow students, classmates, said it wasn't me in the picture, which i question why they had to tell you why -- >> why, yeah. >> are you saying it was possible you had -- >> i questioned that, too. >> i did do this, this is his defense? >> i think you raise a very good point when you were talking about african-americans sort of drawing a line, not accepting these things. when you think about being blac

why is blackface back in the noon? robin, your article was fascinating.s through this. we're in the middle of black history month. we're talking about officials putting on blackface and it keeps feeling like this conversation that we need to have. it keeps coming back. why do people get caught up doing blackface? >> i don't think that we were ever not caught up. i mean, one of the things to me that is striking, as much as we say that it is in the news now, i think it is in the news politically and intensely in virginia. but it never seems to really go away. my goal was to try to understand, parse out why it is that it just won't go away. that it keeps being repeated in different iterations, and yet it is still the same thing. >> i keep looking online and i see showing year books in the late 1970s, the 1980s and even the 1990s. when this came out, i said we'll see more of this and surely, more pictures started to roll out. >> there was a picture from his own year book saying, he went back and there it was. i believe he said it was in colorado. >> wow! >> s

in other words, is he not only blackface in costume but blackface in practice? you know, you don't go out and start the game if you're injured. you give it to the man that can go out and finish the job. justin fairfax is a person to finish the job. he'd go a long way. i mean, this is right in front of him, an opportunity to clear that up and to support justin fairfax, who happens to be an african-american. he just won't do it. >> most people, as we have said, certainly the 2020 candidates, we've seen all the major democratic political figures almost in virginia, come out and say, and quickly say, you've got to resign. not everybody. not everybody. former congressman jim moran of virginia had this to say. let me play. >> how much more motivation could a man have to prove himself and to advance the cause of racial justice, frankly? >> i'm wondering, derrick, is there any argument that you could hear or that you have heard that suggests there is any reason at all to give a second chance? >> well, you know, i think we are giving a second chance. we're not condemning

and when they dress us up in blackface or dress up -- they dress themselves up in blackface, mimickingo us who wat to be taken seriously who want to have first class citizenship, it demeans us, degrades us. this nation was built on the backs of slaves, free labor, and then to make a mockery of us. it is a very, very ugly, very ignorant, racist gesture. it is, like, all we're doing is just laughing and hee hee'ing. some of those things you see with people eating watermelon. it is just not -- it is not a good depiction of who we are as people, who we have been for this nation, the united states of america, and who we are, period, in general. >> wasn't good during the jim crow south, wasn't good in 1984. and sure as hell isn't good now. april ryan, we appreciate your time. >> sure as hell isn't. thank you, george. >> i don't think this stops here. the question, natalie, who took the picture? will the photographer step forward? the question -- >> who chose to put the picture in the yearbook? >> yeah, the head of the -- printing the yearbook, who is that? and who is that other person in the

i posed as a blackface and therefore all the people who have a blackface photograph and two weathers, should they lose their jobs too? there is marketing mug in a hospital somewhere should they be in trouble as well? hypocrisy, the standard is silly. lots of people were blackface. jimmy kimmel, jimmy fallon for crying out loud. you want to go down that road we can go down that road. it's a silly stander but depends ou the intent behind blackface and how old you were when you did it and let's have a little nkrspective here. >> dan: larry, kayleigh thank you very much for your perspective. >> kayleigh: thank you, dan. >> dan: next in crisis, we will bring you the latest breaking news of the virginia crisis. stay with us. don't go anywhere. moving? that's harder now because of psoriatic arthritis. but you're still moved by moments like this. don't let psoriatic arthritis take them away. taltz reduces joint pain and stiffness and helps stop the progression of joint damage. for people with moderate to severe psoriasis, 90% saw significant improvement. taltz even gives you a chance at compl

the blackface next to the klu klux klan member, but blackface is blackface. it's unacceptable then. it's unacceptable now. it's unacceptable as michael jackson. it's definitely unacceptable next to a klu klux klan member. >> you said you were confident he would resign. you spoke to him yesterday. did he tell you then that he was going to step down? >> he made no commitment to step down, but he did make a commitment that he would do the best, what was in the best interest of the commonwealth. he said to us directly that he was committed to doing what -- he was committed to helping those that needed help the most and he was not interested in hurting anyone. but right now i think what he is doing is hurting the commonwealth because we are right in the middle of our general assembly session. crossover is tuesday. we are trying to get a budget through and finish up bills. it's hurting the commonwealth at this time. this is a distraction. we don't want to sweep it under the rug. we want to deal with it. this is not the way to deal with it. he needs to resign. we ne

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the governor of virginia with his blackface story, the attorney general with his blackface story, theucci sweater, whatever that thing was from prada, and in the words of d.j. collared another one. >> katy perry is facing backlash for a shoe design that resemiabilities blackface. the shoes features a face with exaggerated red lips. though the shoes were in different colors, people pointed out the problematic image of the black ones. they have been taken off online. >> trevor: when black people said you should put yourselves in our shoes, we did not mean this, we meant jeezys! katy perry came under fire for shoes that resemble blackface. if anything, it looks like she was trying to re-create a crappy kindergarten project. but when you're living in society where certain imagery has historically been used to dehumanize black people, you have to be sensitive. if you're a designer, a simple rhyme to help you, red lips with white skin, that's a fashion win. red lips with black skin, that shit's racist! ( laughter ) you remember that. and look, part of me was surprised these shoes got caught

i was not in that costume either as blackface or as kkk. and it's not me. >> with the democrats universally denouncing northam, how can they get him to leave? i'll talk to two leaders of the congressional black caucus. karen bass and donald mceachin. plus, democrats divided on the best way to defeat president trump. on one side progressives like elizabeth warren. >> let's be really clear, capitalism without rules is theft. >> on the other, moderates like michael bloomberg. >> i'm a lbd little bit tired of listening to things like pie in the sky. >> my guest this morning, the democrat who says he could be one to bridge that gap. also, the president, the speaker and the border wall. >> there's not going to be any wall money in the legislation. >> she's just playing games. so if there's no wall, it doesn't work. >> will president trump declare a national emergency? republican senator rick scott of florida is here. joining me for insight and analysis are eugene robinson of "the washington post." nbc news chief white house correspondent hallie j

let's do a reality check on blackface.common term that tried to roll back the civil war and resist civil rights for almost a century. but you might not know that jim crowe was the name of a popular mens tral act in the 1940s and that's just an independent occasion of the foundational pain and institutional racism that's beneath what some people think say party trick. a clip from the film bamboozle has been shown online and it shows people in blackface culture from the kkk to black and white comedies, cartoons and icons and even musicals starring big celebrities. this was the times they lived in and the culture they inherited 'the but with again you are russ discounts for youthful idiocy, there's no excuse for perpetuating black fis in 1984. what we're seeing now is the scars of how our history persists under the hate of heritage or humor in the say teachable moment, but it is absurd this this lesson still needs to be taught. and while some conservatives delight that democratstor blame in two of these cases, they like to ig

that is not what blackface is.face is the instituting of the den graduation of black people. >> we invite you to keep it here for continuing coverage of all the controversies in virginia politics. wa you can get the latest any time with the nbington app. >>> this one is a really interesting case. >> it is. it's about a fight between a principal and a student. or was it something else? >> police say this video that you're seeing here, it shows an marylandon inside a high school but captured the last few seconds of what had been nearly two hours of thnflict. >> sources close t investigation said it started with the student assaulting a teacher. xplains how ns police are breaking down the video. >> he didn't actually hit the gu he just knocked his hand out the way. >> reporter: police are deciphering what's on this cell phone video shot inside charles herbert flowers high school yesterday. a letter sent from the school to repas, stating, yesterday there was an altercation between the principal and a student. ly shared

are you the guy in blackface or are you the guy wearing the kkk robes? that is question he needs to answer. he's admitted one of the people in that photo is him. the picture is from a 1984 yearbook, when he was at the eastern virginia medical school. he was an adult. he was somewhere around 25 years old when that picture was taken. here's more of what he said after admitting indeed one of those photos, either the guy in blackface or the person wearing the kkk robes, if indeed is him and here's how he responded to some of that. >> i accept responsibility for my past actions, and i am ready to do the hard work of regaining your trust. i have spent the past year as your governor fighting for a virginia that works better for all people. i am committed to continuing that fight through the remainder of my term and living up to the expectations you set for me when you elected me to serve. >> so what you heard there was that he is planning on continuing his term and not resigning. that's what's happening right now in the hours after this came out. i want to ment

another virginia official is caught up in a blackface scandal.history with dwandalyn reece of the smithsonian natural museum of a can history and culture. plus, important advice for the tenses of millions of americans who are not saving for retirement from the president of the world's biggest money manager. more real news ahead but first, here's today's eye opener at 8:00. >> in virginia the top three officials in that state government are now all caught up in separate scandals. >> the attorney general admitted to posing in blackface and the woman accusing the lieutenant governor of sexual assault came forward with her allegations. >> it looks like the territorial defeat of isis is now down to a matter of days as the u.s.-led coalition and closed in on that last territory still under isis control. >> jayme closs' loved ones attended jake patterson's preliminary hearing. the first time they came face to face with the man who allegedly confessed to causing so much pain. >>> opposition leader juan guaido stands to gain ground if he can get food and

of course there's nothing acceptable about blackface, it's horrible. but you know what, he said in his statement it was the most painful, shameful moment in his life. and he talked about having to spend the past 40 years to make up for that and do so genuinely by taking responsibility publicly and by working toward racial justice. that's what you want to hear, because i will tell you right now there is not a single american who does not have some share in an inheritance we all have of our country's painful racial history. so the question is, what do we do about that, how do we ask for forgiveness, how do we forgive. and there's a real opportunity to have a conversation when someone comes forward and takes personal responsibility the way he did. i thought it showed immense public courage. >> the challenge, of course, is if the offenses are similar if not equal between mark herring and the governor, how do you press the governor to step down and say it's because he hasn't taken responsibility, but the attorney general has, and what do you do about the li

but, oops, i did blackface, but doing blackface as michael jackson is completely different. he's lost credibility. >> what does a picture like that do to you? when you see those images, how does that make you feel as a black woman? >> i mean honestly, it's painful, but it makes you just want to have a big sigh because how many years, how many decades, how many centuries do we have to continue going through this? this is why it is so important the leadership of our country needs to lead in a way that heals. and unfortunately that's not the situation that we're in right now. so if this was just about the governor, that would be one thing. but just think about it. a week before the last election, we had four acts of domestic terrorism, and not each one, but almost each one of those acts was racially motivated. what about the african-americans that were killed in kentucky, the man wanted to go to a church, couldn't get there. a couple of days later, the massacre in the synagogue. three days after that, the yoga studio. we are going through a period in our country right now that