just, spend a few minutes speaking about renewable energy, because i know both byron dorgan and bob bennett were champions of this, and it's true whether i'm in billford, utah or whether i'm anywhere throughout north dakota and see a great potential for wind energy in those states. when i became secretary of interior, i walked into an office on january 21, 2009, where there was no attention and no focus on renewable energy at all. notwithstanding legislation, which we had all authored together make sure that renewable energy became part of that american portfolio of energy. nothing was happening. nothing was happening. no permit had been issued. knock was going on in solar, in g geosolar for the plans of the country. the leadership of steve black and bob, director of the blm and so many others who have helped us, we have made that a huge priority for the united states of america, and we have permitted 29 projects up to this point in time. of large scale solar, wind and geothey were many projects on the public balance of the united states. and some of those projects are not only constructed

. >> and if it wasn't for the generosity of bob bennett my friend bill bennett's brother who took on your case probono you would probably after serv serving your country for all your adult life you would be bankrupt now. >> that's correct. i am indebted to bob bennett for taking my case and helping me out. >> sean: do you think this is political to make the president look good and look tough in the minds of the american president prior to a reelection effort? >> i definitely do. i think is a politically motivated leak. there are leaks in some case there's are policy motivations but this i think was designed to make the president look tough and decisive. and i think it as shame because i don't think we should do this with national security. >> sean: and you would like to see he a special prosecutor appointed but a shorter time frame, get to the bottom of it quicker so people's lives aren't about put on hold? >> that is, correct. >> sean: you are true american hero, sir. and we thank you for your service to your country and all that you are doing. the book, by the way, is phenomenal. t

. >> and if it wasn't for the generosity of bob bennett my friend bill bennett's brother who took on would probably after serv serving your country for all your adult life you would be bankrupt now. >> that's correct. i am indebted to bob bennett for taking my case and helping me out. >> sean: do you think this is political to make the president look good and look tough in the minds of the american president prior to a reelection effort? >> i definitely do. i think is a politically motivated leak. there are leaks in some case there's are policy motivations but this i think was designed to make the president look tough and decisive. and i think it as shame because i don't think we should do this with national security. >> sean: and you would like to see he a special prosecutor appointed but a shorter time frame, get to the bottom of it quicker so people's lives aren't about put on hold? >> that is, correct. >> sean: you are true american hero, sir. and we thank you for your service to your country and all that you are doing. the book, by the way, is phenomenal. thank you for being wit

. >> i'm bob bennett from family service agency. i want to thank you for all the add vocath cazzie you did already. i'm here to ask ask that you extend it to a three% which, takes us back to where we were at the start of the year. i understand that there's been a proposal suggesting that you would tie the contract cola to a mandatory 3. raise for staff. like a lot of agencies, we've given staff raises in the last five years. we did it by finding additional funding to blend in with city programs, by cutting administration, and mostly by cutting our operation costs to the bone. we're springing leaks everywhere, just like everyone else is and because we blended other funding with your funding, actually, if we had to give all our staff a 3% cost of living increase, that would be more than the funding we're getting from you. which would mean we'd be in a worse place after having receiveed that funding than we are now. we all are trying to do everything we can for our clients and our staff. and please trust us to do that. secondly, i'd ju

projects or public energy projects, in this country, and the ranking member of that panel, senator bob bennettnd two years later we worked together again at eric fox which proves bipartisanship isn't really dead, at least outside of the senate. [laughter] and today we have put together an energy forum that asks the question in the keynote address, what is ahead? what is ahead of us in energy policy? and second a panel that asks about tax incentives, what does the future hold for tax incentives, which determines what kind of incentives we provide for certain kinds of energy production. senator bennett and i will take a couple minutes each to frame the discussion and then we will have senator murkowski and we will have secretary salazar and then a panel discussion. j. paul getty was once asked to define success. he said success is very simple. at go to the best school you can find and do well. then find a job and exceed everyone's expectations and then strike oil. [laughter] well by all accounts, america has had a substantial measure of success recently. we have struck oil in oil and natural gas

back in 2010 hard liners in utah were able to oust the relatively moderate republican senator bob bennettthe state convention. this year hard liners forced the other republican senator orrin hatch into a primary? consider also the otherwise staid and seersucker world of connecticut republican politics where twice now wrestling executive linda mcmahon has emerged from conventions with the party's endorsement for nature despite pleas from the party to choose someone more moderate. again, i ask whether the many state republican parties matter? does it matter what those parties do, and what does it mean that the republican party establishment in important states is losing control of what those parties do now? joining us now is someone thanz, nicole wallace, former xhuk says directions from the bush administration and importantly the author of "it's classified," a novel that came out in paperback and it's enjoyable and you should read. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> i don't want to have a partisan discussion about right and wrong here. i'm interested in the tactics he

they ousted the incumbent senator bob bennett. the utah state convention. the message was not lost on oren hatch. they are taking a closer look at the primary in that state, hatch's real challenge since he came into office 36 years ago in a primary less than weeks from now. it's a battle he has been preparing for since the moment bennett went down to defeat. take the support for paper and bipartisan communication. he voted for t.a.r.p. and took note and spend the last years easing concerns from the tea party right. in 2011, he voted against ofs to preserve the children's health insurance program, a program he helped create in 1997. he went from backing a health care bill that included the mandate to declare clairing it unconstitutional and became a vocal opponent of no child left behind after spending a decade defending. the shift has not gone unnoticed. they jumped from 88% in 2009 to 100% the following year. the senator was endorsed by sarah palin who said he is among the 1% she thinks should be reelected. hatch corrected the mistake at the convention him

. >> this is his first primary since 1976, he watched what happened to bob bennett, his friend in theate, but more importantly, i think he learned lessons from dick luger in indiana who was indignant that he was being sort of called back to his home state. and i think orrin hatch has made a point of showing his constituents in utah. he still wants to be there. >> he wants to be in the senate so he'll say anything he has to stay in washington. >> at least he's telling us he still cares, he's very in touch with his voters, while luger was very -- >> the club for growth was kind of the first one who would primary incumbents who they consider to be rhinos and not far enough to the right and hatch moved so that he eventually got tea party express, club four growth, sarah palin all to line up behind him to avoid the fate of some of these colleagues. >> you can make two very interesting bookends here about the story of orrin hatch's career, or the study of moderate conservativism. he came in in 1976 who was written off and ran as a reagan conservative. he was one of the tl-- there we number

you have peaked michael nelson, a lobbyist with a firm run by former senator bob bennett who is also on the banking committee. he has been retained by jpmorgan chase for help. it goes on and on. >> what we saw yesterday was a glance of how that lobbying money, as well as additional campaign money, and many meetings and phone calls from the process -- which we do not want to find those terms that have a tremendous impact on regulations and on how the industry is viewed and a particular members argued, and the power they have within the senate's, therefore, with respect to their own industry. the fact there is a revolving door is very much interested to the problem. yemen industry before -- given industry effectively policing themselves. the senate banking committee comprised of people who have gone contributions in some manner except for six. lobbyists going back and forth. chuck schumer is an example of someone asking incredibly tepid questions. i think one of the things he said was, well, shareholders lost money the taxpayers did not. he proceeded to attack a question on to that, wh

someone like bob bennett. he has done other investigations. and he is a democrat, as a matter of fact. but we need someone who is credible and someone who is truly independent. >> greta: how about speed, though? we get -- we get into these huge investigations, they go on for years and years. and become almost a shakespearean play developing here in washington, where people are pointing fingers. one of the things we need a swift decision. does going outside also, though, run the risk of being greater time? or not? >> do you think that if attorney general holder was ultimately in charge of this investigation that we valid any informs between now and november isn't fact is that a special counsel would be constrained in some degrees, which an independent would have much more constrained jurisdiction. and i am confident that we would get the best possible conclusion, a credible one that the american people could say, well, that was independent. and so therefore, we trust it. >> greta: oddly, the small universe of people, at some of these meetings o

bob bennett. >> let me move you to the subject of syria, another area where you have been very outspokenut the need, you believe, for the u.s. to step in in the sense of help arm some of the opposition in syria and perhaps even be more forceful. this is from our secretary to the u.n., susan rice. >> there's not a unified command and control. it's a series of different groups in different cities. there's clearly also an extremist element that is trying to infiltrate elements of the opposition. so to argue that we ought to be arming the opposition is a very consequential statement, and i don't think that those that are advocating that have fully thought through the consequences. >> again, that was ambassador susan rice. have you fully thought through the consequences, senator, of helping to arm the syrians? >> when i hear a statement like that, i don't know whether to laugh or cry. a shipment of arms from may 26th from russia came in to syria. iranians are on the ground. they have artillery, tanks. they are massacring people in most horrendous fashion. meanwhile, member of the administrati

and the ranking member of that panel was senator bob bennett. two years later we worked together again which proves that bipartisanship is not really dead at least outside of the scent. [laughter] and today we have put together an energy form that asks the question in the keynote address is, what is ahead? what is ahead of us an energy policy. second a panel that asks about tax incentives the future for tax incentives which determines what kind of incentives to provide for certain kinds of energy production. senator bennett and i will take a couple of minutes each to frame the discussion, and then we will have senator murkowski and we will have secretary salazar and then the panel discussion. j. paul getty was once asked to define success. he said, success is simple. get to the best school you can find and do well. find a job and exceeded everyone's expectations and then strike oil. well by all accounts america has had a substantial measure of success recently. we have struck oil and oil and natural gas in a way that no one could have or what ha

he's always been a conservative but so was bob bennett and dick lugar.n mccain did, who said immigration reform, not me. and did all of that before his election in terms of a tough primary and i think orrin hatch was paying close attention and all of a sudden didn't want to talk about how hard he worked with ted kennedy on so many bipartisan bills. >> who would in a republican primary in utah. >> that's fair. >> let's talk about the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll and love to get everybody's input on this. chuck, it seems that the negatives and we hear it and when we go out i know you hear it when you go out, the negatives against both of these candidates, just keep going up because this is a campaign. you know, people tell us all the time, they're saying nothing. >> right. they are saying something, but everybody they're saying has been poll tested and sort of squeezed. >> i want to give credit to mike murphy, i remember about two months ago said, you know what this is going to look like right after romney was sort of -- santorum dropped out -- thes

me say, spend a few minutes speaking about renewal energy because i know both byron dorgan and bob bennett were champions of this. it is sure whether i am in wilford, utah, or whether i am anyway throughout north dakota and see the great potential for wind energy in the states. when i became secretary of interior i walked into an office on january 201st, 2009 when there was no intention and no focus on renewable energy and all. notwithstanding legislation which we had all of the together to make sure that renewable energy became part of that american portfolio of energy, nothing was happening. nothing was happening. no permit had been issued. nothing was going on, solar, geothermal, or in wind energy for the united states of america on the public lands of the century. under the lead of steve black and the director of the blm and so many of the people who held this we have made that a huge priority for the united states of america. we have permitted 29 projects up to this point in time. large-scale solar, wind, and geothermal projects on the public lands of the estate's. some of those proje

the reason is that this is truly, and i think bob bennett would agree, one of the senator that came to the senate to try to figure out, how do we advance the country's interests? how do we find a way through this to reach agreement? hallmark ken salazar's as the united states senator. he is a great friend and a great american. i am really pleased he has accepted our invitation to speak today. secretary ken salazar. [applause] >> thank you very much, senator dorgan. and senator bennett, thank you for being leaders and statesmen for our country. mentors and role models for me in our work in utah together. senator bennett on matters involving conservation. we were successful, not withstanding headwinds that were very strong in the other direction. senator dorgan is a great legislator for energy and continues to be alive and well as we work on those issues across the united states of america. we just heard from lisa murkowski, who i very much enjoyed the working relationship we have together. let me tell you -- i want to share some comments on energy overall and how i see the world. lookin

luger just got bombed, bob bennett got bumped. orin hatch could get bombed in utah. -- could get bumped in utah. it is sad, i think, that you cannot put it together yourself the way reasonable people do. they don't buy the blue plate special. voters love union and they are pro-choice and they go down the list and every single thing, they are against free trade. there are some but they are about 30%. we just go down the line left or right. i like it when people say on one issue they are not with the party. you hardly ever hear that. then you are marked as some kind of pro-life nut. if our voters become independent, we will have more independent politicians, i think. that's a sobering isn't it? >> what you think the biggest mistakes of the obama and romney campaign have made so far? >> romney has not made many mistakes. he has the strategy of being the last man standing. it does not try to sell his personality. [laughter] it is like roller derby. just not the other guys off the court. you cannot hide from the incoming. it was a rele

ronald reagan, john bush, bob bennett, chuck sigell, mitch daniels, mickey edwards to name a few of manyop 20 conservative and not extreme. no, i'm going to suggest that a party can be extreme in three ways and discuss each tactic, ideology, and rhetoric. first tactic, and i should emphasize here that tactics depend on content. the gop has adopted a set of parliamentary tactics and anon parliamentary system in a way that is unlike any we have seen before, underscoring some of the points, purely oppositional and obstructionist, disdaining problem-solving, defining partisan adversaries as the enemy, and opposing positions often because of who is supporting them, not because of what is in the. the first evidence comes from the filibuster. put up a chart, which is now being applied in a fashion unseen in all of previous american history. i don't have time to go over the history of the filibuster. much of it is in the book. did i mention it makes a great holiday gift? but among let me say that in the past filibusters were used rarely for issues of great national moment by a minority feeling i

luger just got bombed, bob bennett got bumped. orin hatch could get bombed in utah. it is sad, i think, that you cannot put it together yourself the way reasonable people do. they don't buy the blue plate special. voters love union and they are pro-choice and they go down the list and every single thing, they are against free trade. there are some but they are about 30%. we just go down the line left or right. i like it when people say on one issue they are not with the party. you hardly ever hear that. then you are marked as some kind of pro-life nut. if our voters become independent, we will have more independent politicians, i think. that's a sobering isn't it? >> what you think the biggest mistakes of the obama and romney campaign have made so far? >> romney has not made many mistakes. he has the strategy of being the last man standing. it does not try to sell his personality. [laughter] it is like roller derby. just not the other guys off the court. you cannot hide from the incoming. it was a relentless negative advertising. it was done by these super packs like

ronald reagan, bob bennett, chuck geico, mitch daniels, to name a few, a are plenty conservative and not extreme. looking at the -- a party can be extreme in three ways. tactics, ideology, and rhetoric. i should emphasize that tactics depends on context. the gop has adopted a set of parliamentary tactics and in on parliamentary system in a way that is unlike any we have seen before. underscoring some of his points, a obstructionist problem solving, defining and adversary as an enemy, often because of who is supporting them, because of what is in them. the first of a discount from the filibuster, let me put up a chart, which is now being applied in a fashion on seen in all previous history. i do not have time to go over the history of the filibuster. much of it is in the book. it makes a great holiday gift. and let me say that in the past, filibusters were used rarely for issues of a great national moments by a minority willing to stop everything and throw themselves into making their point. now it is used routinely as a weapon of obstruction. motions were two a month in the 1970's, t

guest: you didn't want bob bennett? you got the right guy? host: we always want bill bennett. there's a headline this morning in "the washington post" and an important headline. it was 40 years on this date that the watergate break-in took place. and the headline today, financing comes full circle after watergate. focusing on the 40th anniversary of watergate with james rosen coming up later in the program and the author of the strong man. his look at former attorney general mitchell, randi weingarten will be joining us next, the head of the american federation of teachers. first, as always. what else is being talked about on the sunday morning programs. nancy keeping track of all of that in our studios. >> good morning. on today's talk shows in addition to the discussions on health care law and national security, presidential politics will be a featured topic with the senior white house advisor david plouffe appearing on four of the five programs. c-span reairs the programs with nbc's "meet the press." talks with david plouffe and the ranking member of the senate armed servic

ronald reagan, jeb bush, bob bennett, bob english, chuck hagel, mitch daniels, mickey edwards to name a few of many are plenty conservative and not extreme. now i'm going to suggest that a party can be extreme in three ways and i will discuss each. tactics, ideology and rhetoric. first tactics. i should emphasize tactics do depend on context. i posit that the gop has adopted a set of parliamentary tactics in a nonparliamentary system in a way that is unlike any we have seen before. underscoring some of jeb bush's points, purely oppositional and obstructionist disdaining problem-solving, defining its partisan adversary as the enemy and opposing positions often because of who is supporting them, not because of what is in them. now the first evidence comes from the filibuster, let me put up a chart. which is now being applied in a fashion unseen in all of previous american history. i don't have time to go over the history of the filibuster. much of it is in the book. did i mention it makes a great holiday gift? but, let me say that in the past filibusters were used rarely for an issues o

luger just got bombed, bob bennett got bumped. orin hatch could get bombed in utah. it is sad, i think, that you cannot put it together yourself the way reasonable people do. they don't buy the blue plate special. voters love union and they are pro-choice and they go down the list and every single thing, they are against free trade. there are some but they are about 30%. wene left i like it when people say on one issue they are not with the party. you hardly ever hear that. then you are marked as some kind of pro-life and not. nut. if our voters become independent, we will have more independent politicians, i think. that's a sobering isn't it? >> what you think the biggest mistakes of the obama and romney campaign have made so far? >> romney has not made many mistakes. he has the strategy of being the last man standing. it does not try to sell his personality. [laughter] it is like roller derby. just not the other guys off the cores. court. you cannot hide from the incoming. it was a relentless negative advertising. it was done by these super packs. like restore our

the ranking member of that panel was bob bennett. two years later, we worked together again. but partisanship is not really dead, at least of some of the senate. -- out side of the senate. [laughter] today, we asked the question, what is ahead? second, a panel that asked about tax incentives, what does the future hold for tax incentives, which determines what kind of incentives we provide for a certain energy production. we will take a couple of minutes to frame the discussion. we will have a panel discussion. j. paul getty was once asked to osama -- to describe success, "he said go to the best school, find a job, and strike oil." america has had a substantial measure of success. we have struck oil in oil and natural gas in a way that no one could have predicted. we have four times the number of critics then existed at three years ago. we have more drilling rigs in america than in the rest of the world. we are producing more energy on public lands and private lands and more than we were producing before and more energy than anyone would have predicted. it is the case that imp