this morning we're joined by bob costas, our host in primetime for the olympics. >> live in brazil for us right now, bob, good to to see you. >> reporter: good morning, aaron and euanit and overcast which isusr this a. th in brazil leading up to the olycthem, the recent political turmoil that could lead to the president's impeachment and the and water quality. we'll highlight the athletes expected to represent united states, michael phelps and gabby douglas will be here. and the reigning 00-met free style champion will be here. >> what else are you looking forward to? you have covered so many olympics in your career. >> reporter: well, you can't >> you mentioned the concerns about the watere the water will actually be in? >> reporter: well, where the water events are being contested, those bodies of water have been treated chemically. they have also cleared it of debris. and what they have done and it's only a temporary fix, but for the olympics what they have done h csed off or diverted some of the sewage that used to be fed into those bodies of and they are hoping that at least durin

plus, the two reporters behind the "washington post's" revealing interview with donald trump, bob costa and bob woodward brings new details to their story. >>> it now appears clinton and sanders have agreed before the new york primary. on separate days because hillary clinton wants to make sure he doesn't have a big rally and that nobody sees the debate. that will be interesting. >> what does she want? >> she wants it like in the morning tomorrow or during the ncaa or during a rally that he has a permit for where he'll have like 80,000 people and make her look really bad so she's proposing all these dates that would lock -- >> has she -- >> yes. only on impossible times. >> did she propose the ncaa? >> yes. >> you knew it! >> that was the first proposal. >> it's not a joke. >> i believe they were proposing to have the debate on new york 1 on the night of the -- >> why do they think she's so bad. >> nbc has offered a slot on a sunday night and bernie sanders is on board but she's not. >> why do her people think she's such a bad debater that they have to hide her? i don't understand that.

first, bob costas, host of nbc's primetime olympics coverage, is already in rio near the beach. bob, good morning to you. >> hello, matt. hello, savannah. we are at the famed copacabana beach. dylan might be interested to know it is a rarity, at least at the moment, a little drizzle. it should clear up as the day moves along. 100 days from now, the olympics gets underway. your set will be down the way here on copacabana beach, which should be an ongoing party. it's where they'll contest beach volleyball, among other things. usain bolt. of course, all the issues surrounding these games. political turmoil, possible impeachment of the president, water quality, zika, whatever you want to talk about in the next hour, i'm up for it. >> thanks very much. we'll check back with you in a little while. you mentioned michael phelps. we'll have an exclusive interview with michael phelps. the most decorated athlete in olympic history. he talks about how close he came from walking away from swimming and why he says he is a changed man heading into rio. >>> and the black box from the ill-fated s

bob costas, thanks so much for taking time out of your day to join us.reciate it. >> thank you, kate. take care. >>> at this moment, we are waiting for ted cruz in indiana, where he will be joined by carly fiorina in. in the last hour, we have confirmed that cruz has tapped fiorina to be his running mea n. my colleagues picks up from that in washington, right after a quick break. stay with us. ♪ try your favorite ranch with a fresh taste so crisp, you'll be surprised it doesn't cruh. hidden valley cucumber ranch. just one of our delicious ranch flavors. people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar. but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. he said victoza® works differently than pills. and comes in a pen. victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. it's taken once a day, any time. victoza® is not for weight loss, but it may help you lose some weight. victoza® works with your body to lower blood sugar in 3 ways: in the stomach, the liver, an

bob costas has another 100 days in rio to celebrate longer. he's joining us from rio. ng. he told me in london when he picked up his last medal, record 22, he was absolutely done. he's done a 180 and is coming back. usain bolt will return, trying to do something completely unprecedented. win the 100 meters and the 200 meters in world record time yet again. he is the fastest human in the history of the planet. simply electrifying to watch. leaving his competition in the dust. then as we turn our attentions to the always popular sport of gymnastics, two of the so-called fierce five -- and here's usain doing push-ups -- two of the so-called fierce five successful in london will return. gabby douglas and ally ray rais. they're joined by simone biles, who won the last three world championships. she'll be among those to washingtwatch. something else, assuming rio can overcome the issues they're facing, is the simple beauty of the setting here, including copacabana beach, right behind me. dylan, you'll be interested to know, right now, little drizzle, 79. in honor of al and hi

bob woodward, always an honor. robert costa. again, if you want to watch the interview of my interviewing trump, it's now at the top of hardba hardball.msnbc.com. >>> up next, bernie sanders and ted cruz need to win. it's a must win you might say for both of those challengers. can they do it? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics, live from wisconsin, for today's primary. ♪ the new craftsman pro series riding mowers. now available with power steering. so you can turn with ease. available with the tightest turning radius in the industry. and powerful v twin engines with up to 26 horsepower. because the beer you drink after you mow your lawn tastes better than the beer you drink after someone else mows your lawn. craftsman. when it matters. >>> this new voter i.d. law is another way to suppress more people from voting. >> i think it's becoming unnecessarily complicated. especially, i mean, students have been leaving the line all day, because it's getting too long with new registration requirements. and classes, work,

. >> also ahead, major plans to mark 100 days to the olympics, including bob costas live in rio. g to you. >> good morning to you, matt and savannah. we're right down the beach from where your "today" show set will be located. we've been here in rio the past few days checking out the city and the preparations for the games. certainly lots of issues to discuss and plenty of athletes to highlight, including some from the philadelphia area. back in new york, the band perry will be live on the "today" show's plaza. for now, back to you, tracy and vai. >> how about bob with his collar flipped up. musting cool in rio. >> very cool. >> that's what's happening in rio and inside the "today" show studios. >> let's take you outside to times square where team usa will be celebrating 100 days away from the opening ceremony. nbc 10's jay gray is there this morning. jay, tell us what times square looks like at this hour. >> good morning, tracy and vai. bob on the beach and i'm at times square. how does that work? they're getting things ready. take a look around. what this is basically going to b

. >> rose: you and bob costa. >> yeah, he made it really clear he's going to go for somebody who is washington establishment. he specifically said somebody who has been around for 25 years can go to the senate and know nose senators, knows the players. now if he sticks to that, as we know, he doesn't necessarily stick to things he says. so i suspect in his mind he's got a short list of one for who he would like to pick. as his running mate. and he may blurt it out some day or they may actually hold it close and they may actually go through a rigorous process. i suspect everything we know about trump, he's kind of instinctive, as george bush said about himself, he's a gut player and trump definitely is. >> rose: gut player. so therefore you think he has one person, a specific person or the idea of one person? >> don't know. obviously. but he-- you know, i think he thinks in personnel in terms of personalities, you were asking the question about him when you-- interview what struck both bob costa and myself is he's a master at measuring the reaction to himself. and in a very odd way he does, whe

we get more from nbc's bob costas. >> reporter: this summer the world's best athletes will descend onio. but a variety of issues loom over these olympics. the country is still dealing with the impact of the zika virus, and concerns about water quality. brazil's economy not long ago vibrant is now crumbling. and its president rousseff is facing impeachment. soccer legend pe le considered a favorite to light the caldron at the opening ceremony is optimistic his country can deliver a successful games. >> this moment is very, very important. >> reporter: leading team usa is michael phelps who said he was done following the london games, but after dealing with personal issues, including a dui and a rehab stint, has decided to come back for rio. >> i'm having fun again. and this is something that i haven't had in a really long time. >> reporter: some see a different phelps. more candid and open. >> i remember sitting in a treatment center, i was like, the world will see me in a different way after i come out of here. >> reporter: rio will be an olympic debut for an american who mary lou ret

we'll talk about them when we check in with bob costas te in brazil. l por the games. we'll also talk about the personal obstacles he's had to face recently, including battles with his long-time coach and drun k driving. >> we'll also introduce you to other olympic hopefuls. >>> we'll have a performance on the plaza from the band perry. >>> big night for the front runners in the presidential race. donald trump completed a five-state sweep. in his victory speech, he declared himself the republican's presumptive nominee. with the lion's share of the delegates last night, trump is more than 3/4 of the way to the 1,237 needed to avoid a contested conventi mireladerson in rhode island. she's 90% oenomination. >> we'll have the democratic race in a moment, but we're going to start with the republicans and peter alexander. good morning to you. >> matt and savannah, good morning to you. donald trump didn't just win big last night, he won in a landslide, winning nearly every county that voted and every single congressional district across the five states. a senior aide to donal

bob costa and bob woodward met him and said it was an extremely candid. >> i think my headline for me was what he said about the economy in a precarious situation that there is a bubble but then we asked about what would be your advice as a stockbroker or somebody who provides tips on the stock. and i was really surprised. he said, it's terrible now. this is not the time to invest in the stock market. >> economists said it's very odd for a major party nominee to make this kind of bleak statement about the american economy and in all of your years reporting, have you seen a candidate say this kind of thing about the economy? >> no. what they say is they may criticize the incumbent from the other party and say, the economic policies are not working and i have better policies. but what trump was saying is that this is really dreary. >> let's talk more about this with steven ginsburg who edited the interview with donald trump. good to see you. so in this interview, donald trump was accompanied by his son, don junior, and his aides. how much was this about donald trump trying to look more

what struck bob costas and myself is he is a master at measuring the reaction to himself. in a very odd way, when you interview him, he doesn't disagree with much, because he is kind of looking for a path of some sort of agreement. as the person who transcribed the tape, my assistant, said, she listened to this. she said, "you know, there is a tipoff. you will say something, then he will say, 'by the way,' and he will give you his real opinion." charlie: do you think if he is indeed the nominee he might be a stronger candidate than we imagine because of unpredictability, and the fact that he did so well suggesting he has appeal in the republican party -- that that might translate to some, quote, reagan democrats? bob: i think almost anything can happen here. i think the debate will be will he do some of these things he has talked about or is he going to change. one of the tipoffs to the possibility that he is going to be much more reasonable and sound reasonable is this speech today. no wall, no muslims. michael, were you surprised? i thought for sure that was going to get

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>> the best evidence for the answer to that is the bob woodward and bob costa interview that ran in "ost" this weekend. they interviewed him for about an hour, hour and a half. i read that entire stratranscri. it's posted online. they tried to get trump to explain when he's going to change. when he's going to pivot and be more policy focused. when he's going to be more presidential. and for an hour and a half, trump said, it's not happening. it's not happening. this is who i am. and i've got to wait to get kasich -- what he calls the leftovers. kasich and cruz, out of the race. but one thing from the new york magazine piece and "the washington post" interview is, you don't see trump believing that he needs to pivot or change. that he needs to become a policy wonk. he believes that what got him to this point is what he's continuing to do going forward. and a lot of republicans do not agree with that. >> doing these lengthy interviews with "the washington post," the bob woodward, bob costa. you saw that long interview with "the new york times." david sanger and margie haber. very long i

bob costa, talk through this a little bit for us. happened in wisconsin knows its path to 1237 gets more narrow by the day. they have to get serious about the possibility of a contested convention. >> here's the dynamic within the trump campaign. it was mid-march, trump was told he needed to do something to shore up his delegates. paul manafort met at trump tower. he lives at trump tower, has gotten to know trump over the years at that building and what they're trying to do is build a strategy for new york, of course, and also looking ahead to june for the california primary. based on my reporting, there won't be a public blood letting in the trump campaign some kind of manafort versus corey lewandowski. they're just trying to get back on track in wisconsin. they're trying to expand the circle continuing to hire. that core inner circle of lewandowski, manafort, hope hicks and others, that remains. >> does donald trump realize he needs to expand? we certainly have heard the past week that his family is pushing him to be more president

and on the republican side, bob costa, what's happening inside the trump campaign? day. >> to save the day when it comes to delegates. they got wiped out again by ted cruz's people. no gains at all. and manafort seems to be running around, doing everything else, obviously, not pleasing his candidate. >> manafort continues to try to professionalize the operation in numerous states and looking ahead to the convention. but the problem for the trump campaign is that when it comes to delegate accumulation at the state conventions, there's still an organizational gap, and manafort and his associates, cory lewandowski and others are just trying to catch up to ted cruz. >> but isn't that why manafort got brought on? what we heard was -- and he's doing everything else because this. i thought manafort was -- he was brought on specifically to help with the delegates. >> he was. and it's been a challenge for the trump campaign to work through some of these delegate slates, according to my sources within the campaign, they're still trying to fill these slate miss of the states a

i was interviewed by bob woodward and bob costa at the "washington post." two great reporters and they did a story. i thought it was a good story. it was pretty accurate. i don't know where they had this but it came out that somebody said we are in a bubble, could be an ugly bubble, you know what that is, right, bubbles, bubbles aren't pretty. you have had bubbles and when they burst it's not a good thing. what i said is we are going to go in to a massive recession, but i also say if i'm president that's not going to happen because i'm going to straighten things out before it happens. it's going to be a mess. you can not continue to lose the kind of billions and billions of dollars on every single thing we do. >> i believe the same dynamic we are seeing here in wisconsin will play out at the convention, which is that our campaign will unify the republican party. it is doing it every day. we are seeing the full ideological range. we are seeing coming together, republicans, independents, libertarians, reagan democrats, unifying behind this campaign. >> everyb

repeated those comments on the trail in wisconsin today. >> i was interviewed by bob woodward and bob costawo great reporters and they did a story and it was -- i thought it was a pretty good story. it was pretty accurate. and what i said is that we're going to go into a massive recession, but i also say, if i'm president, that's not going to happen. because i'm going to straighten things out before it happens. >> now, even some prominent right-leaning economists are calling trump's predictions irresponsible and wrong. and we're going to talk to one of them in just a moment. first, nbc's gabe gutierrez joins me now from superior, wisconsin, where trump just wrapped up an event a short while ago. gabe, that kind of talk, that kind of doom and gloom economic talk, did you hear that again this afternoon? >> reporter: yeah within we did, steve. certainly, the crowd here, more than 2,000 strong, was very receptive to trump's comments on the economy. and once again, donald trump really went after ted cruz, something he has continued to do. he also called for john kasich, as you've been mentioning

>> jimmy: he's so big, instead of spiking the football after a a touchdown, he spikes bob costas. >> steve: what? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: the man is big. >> audience: how big is he? >> jimmy: he's so big if he gets drafted by the new york giants, he'll play the position of actual giant. that's how big he is. [ applause ] [ laughter ] guys, this is pretty interesting -- >> steve: how interesting is it? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: no, no, that's not -- i'm not doing that. no, that's not how -- that's not how that works. [ laughter ] >> steve: my bad. >> jimmy: guys, i read about -- yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] read about an orthodox rabbi who recently blessed medical marijuana, saying that weed isu actually kosher for passover. [ cheers ] ich explains why ssme jewish people were leaving another chair empt for scooby-doo. that makes more sense. you guys, i saw that animal movies are dominating the box office lately with disney's "the jungle book" being the number one movie this weekend, earn g almost $100 million. while "zootopia" has made almost a billion dollars worldwide. as a result, studio e

bob costas has more from rio. >> predicting the failure of an olympic games has almost become an olympic event in and of itself. in the case of rio de janeiro, there are in fact serious issues confronting the host issue and whether they'll be solved by the time the cauldron is lit is far from certain. we spent a few days down here checking out the preparations and speaking with several olympic and government officials about many of these concerns. including the political turmoil, which could lead to the president's impeachment and the ongoing concerned about the zika virus and water quality. but for all the challenges rio faces, there are several positives. nearly all the venues are complete and a series of successful test events have been held. major transportation projects are on track, and what is certain above all else is that rio remains one of the most visually spectacular and welcoming cities in the world. settings like this one here on copacabana beach where beach volleyball will be held, should be festive and jam packed. so this august, we'll see if despite all the problems, the

i was interviewed by bob woodward and bob costa of the washington post, two great reporters. they did a story. i thought it was pretty good and pretty accurate. somebody came out that i said we are going, we're in a bubble, a big bubble, could be a really ugly bubble. you know what that is, right? bubbles. bubbles aren't pretty. we've had bubbles, and when they burst, it's not a good thing. and what i said is we're going to go into a massive recession, but i also say if i'm president that's not going to happen. because i'm going to straighten things out before it happens. it's going to be a mess. and you cannot continue to lose the kind of billions and billions of dollars on every single thing we do with china we have a $500 billion trade deficit. with mexico, by the way, they're killing us at the border. we will build the wall. they will pay for the wall. okay? 100%. 100%. 100%. but with mexico, you know, as an example, we have $58 billion trade deficit. that doesn't include all the drugs that's pouring across the border poisoning our youth and poisoning not only the youth b

>>> i was interviewed by bob woodward and bob costa at the "washington post," two great reporters.hey did a story, and it was -- i thought it was a pretty good story. it was pretty accurate. i don't know where they had this, but somebody came out that i said we are going -- we're in a bubble, big bubble. bubbles aren't pretty. we've had bubbles. and when they burst it's not a good thing. and what i said is we're going to go into a massive recession. but i also say if i'm president that's not going to happen because i'm going to straighten things out before it happens. >> donald trump today in wisconsin repeating what he had said in a "washington post" interview on sunday. one of his interviewers, robert cossa, said this tonight on "hardball." >> it's so unprecedented for a major party figure to step out and start talking about a massive recession on the horizon, calling it a terrible time to invest. woodward and i walked out of the meeting and we said we wondered if the markets were open what this would do. >> ah, the reporters' worry was misplaced since they did not apparently rea

published a transcript of a long conversation between trump and the journalist bob woodward and bob costa. new york magazine put out a long profile of trump and his team, and more baffling than anything else, like charlie brown drawn to lucy's football, trump gave another interview to maureen dowd of the "new york times" during which the man who doesn't usually apologize admitted it was a mistake to retweet an unflattering picture of ted cruz's wife. donald trump held three events in wisconsin today, scheduled to be on hannity tonight. is he more or less in control of his public image in a positive way now than he was when we last spoke about it friday night? >> marginally less. last week was the week in which we saw trump lose control of his public image. i don't think this profusion of word has helped him get in control of his public image. i'm not a media adviser, but it seems to me the better course if you're trying to regain control is to make a couple carefully controlled appearances or do a couple carefully controlled interviews in which you try to reset. instead, he's promiscuousl

bob costas live right now along the beach. bob? >> hey, matt, hey, savannah, we're right down the beach from where your the "today" show set will be located. we've been in rio the past few days checking out the city and the preparations for the games. certainly lots of issues to discuss coming up with you on the "today" show and plenty of athletes to highlight including many from the tri-state area. in new york, the band perry is coming up on the "today" show plaza. back to darlene and michael. >> welcome from new york. what an incredible view you have there. i wanted to ask you, are you ready to handle the 24-hour pace of rio night and day life? >> well, i don't think i have to be out and about 24 hours. but we'll be here -- i'll check the fine print in the contract, but i don't think that's part of the deal. the dozen olympics i've been to, this will be the most spirited, the most party-like atmosphere throughout. especially on copa cabana beach where beach volleyball will be contested. >> will be contested. i bet it will. lookin

and revealed to bob woodward and robert costa of "the washington times" that the u.s. is headed for a, quote, very massive recession. and trump gave three nationally televised interviews that aired yesterday, including one with cbs that led to another clarification on his abortion stance. >> the laws are set now on abortion. and that's the way they're going to remain until they're changed. >> because you had said you wanted -- you told bloomberg in january that you believed abortion should be banned at some point in pregnancy. where would you -- >> well first of all i would have liked to have seen you know this be a state's right. i would have preferred state's rights. i think it would have been better if it were up to the states. right now the laws are set and that's the way the laws are. >> do you have a feeling how they should change? there are a lot of laws you want to change. everything from libel to torture. anything you want to change? >> at this moment the laws are set and i think we have to leave it that way. >> trump's campaign issued a statement after the in

you listen to bob woodward and robert costa talking about this conversation, bob woodward goes as far as saying it is a very dreary outlook, that's a springboard for conversation. usually you talk about or think of presidential candidates, think of their message of optimism, what they can deliver. does this come at great risk that donald trump would say, you know, this is a pessimistic view of the next 8 years? >> fred, not among his followers. part of the attraction to him is that they also have a pessimistic outlook on where the united states has gone. it is all in the slogan. make america great again. if you believe it has to be made great again, you think things have gone downhill. he and his followers are in sync there. the problem with trump is large numbers not among his followers disagree with that message and it is tough to meld them and his backers together. >> thanks, appreciate it. >>> turning to breaking news out of chester, pennsylvania. two amtrak construction workers are dead, dozens of other people injured after an amtrak train carrying more than 300 people collided w

the washington post published a transcript between donald trump and bob will guerdon bought costa. --etween donald trump and bob woodward. to the another interview new york times during which the man who does not usually apologize admitted it was a retweetto infamous for and unflattering photo of ted cruz's wife. is he in more or less control of his image in a positive way than when we last spoke about this ride a? john: i think marginally less. -- when we spoke about this friday? john: i don't think any of this profusion of words has done anything to get him more in control of his public image. i'm not a communications adviser, but it seems to me that the better course would be to make a couple of very carefully controlled appearances or do some controlled interviews to try to reset. instead, he does what he always wordsand the profusion of were too diffuse for him to try to reclaim the control he should have been trying to reclaim after his bad week last week. mark: the two things that are hurting him more over the past 72-96 hours, he keeps talking about his family wants him to be

so bob costa, it's your reporting along with phil brucker of the "washington post" about trump's historicat did you find out digging deeper into the numbers? >> when you dig in deep into the numbers in the "washington post"/abc poll for march you recognize that trump in spite of bringing out working class voters across these republican primaries, he does face a historic challenge when it comes to winning over women, young voters, minority voters, his unfavorables are at a record high since the "post" began polling in 1984. >> wow. >> he would have to get literally 100% of the white male voters to compete in the fall because his support among women has collapsed. >> richard, he has to turn the numbers around or he doesn't have a shot. >> he's had lots of opportunities to do that, the so-called pivot in order to broaden his appeal and so far he hasn't availed himself of any of those opportunities. >> john heilemann, the only suggestion that he could turn things around is what everybody he was saying when he entered and had astoundingly high disapproval numbers. it seems like this is going t

perhaps that is why he sat down with bob costa.hat you think about the media coverage of donald trump? has it hurt or helped him? guest: it has helped from the attention and the he sucks up all the oxygen. i don't know the exact numbers, but he has barely run a tv ad and is still getting all this free press and has done a master ful job at making that happen. any time the attention was waning, he would say something completely off the wall and all the cameras would move back to trump. my hat goes off to him. he is doing a great job in terms of that. tucked to say to the media, you just need to ignore the front runner because that is not how this works. if i can feel bad for some of the other republicans who dropped out, i feel bad because they were struggling to get attention. when you look at jeb bush and the amount of money they put up and did nothing because all of the coverage was with donald trump. he has done a masterful job of pointing the attention on him and his barely spend any money. host: david winston, is there a downs

bob costas will be in brazil checking on the preparations for the game.e interview with michael fellphel who gets candid about demons he faced in recent years. >> when your mom found out you got arrested for a dui -- i know your mom and like her very much -- she said, how terrible is the world going to be to my son? >> i think my mom was happy i was alive. i think she saw the path i was going down. a lot of people close to me saw it. i was going fast. fast. honestly, at one point, i just -- i felt like i didn't want to see another day. >> michael phelps coming back fo after going through difficult times that, i will tell you, changed him as a person. you'll see the interview tomorrow. >> interesting to see him being candid about it. >>> tomorrow, the band perry will be here for a special live concert. trust us, it will be a morning that should not be missed. >> that's right. matt, you're also going to model brazilian swim wear. >> i will be wearing my latest brazilian wear. >>> more news to announce. the opening ceremony of any olympic games, one of the g

bob costa, i like reince so -- reince is a good guy. >> what are you about to say?>> i'm just saying and what people need to understand is that that what trump is doing and what we've been saying on the past couple days that's what any smart candidate in this position would do. >> but will it get him the numbers? >> bobby knight, when he was running up and down the court screaming and throwing chairs on to the court, he didn't do that to get the numbers, he got that to work the crowd and the crowd is getting into it behind him. >> there's a cruz ad out in california that talks about whining not winning and i do think trump has to be careful about that. his consistent motivators -- reality tv is about winning and he's a winner. how many times in his speech did he say we don't win enough, i win. and i think it's an effective challenge for cruz to say now that it's going against you in colorado, you're whining. >> the thing is, though, he's doing this while he's 30, 40 points ahead in these polls. >> there's a lot of intrigue behind these rnc comments with priebus beca

one of the interviews was with bob woodward and robert costa of the "the washington post." y pressed him. bob woodward said you know, have you broken a lot of eggs. don't you think it's time to stop and unite the party? he said i think i have two more eggs to break. later on they said to him don't you really want to have the support of these people? do you want the support of ted cruz he? says i don't want it don't you want the support of the people who opposed you? he says i think unity is overstated. well, lock, the nominee of the republican party, whoever he is or she is, has to take the principled responsibility for uniting the party. they have to draw people. in what do you think ronald reagan did in 1908? did he say my principled opponent george h.w. bush. no it would unify the party if we bring together wings by making him myy/ running mate and showing i like him and he and i will be partners that will be tough for trump if his mind set is i don't know i don't need these people. >> carl, thank you. >> you bet, thank you. >> a big win though for the trump campaign. tru

this, kind of peeling back the layers for donald trump with this editorial staff in the form of costa and bob woodward? >> well, i have to say, i've met my fair share of presidents and other politicians. a lot of them wing it. a lot of them go by gut instinct. they have an ideology or philosophy and a lot of them do it their way almost exclusively when it comes to making these kinds of decisions. so i don't really find anything unusual by that -- about that. and the one thing i would disagree as a reagan/kemp guy, i would argue that the tax cuts brings many more revenue, not less. >> donald trump has gotten a lot of flack in the last week, his comments about abortion, his offering clarity on it, people have been challenging him about his position on women. and just moments ago, we received this tape out of milwaukee where donald trump is talking about women. let's listen to see how much he elaborates on the topic. >> do you think anything you said over the past week and a half hurts you with women voters? >> it might. but i'll tell you, i've had -- i've been doing very well with women voters.

. >>> legendary "the washington post" associate editor bob woodward and robert costa conducting that interview with trump. they described it as highly unusual and extremely candid. >> i think the real headline for me is what he said about the economy in a precarious situation that there is a bubble. but then we asked about what would be your advice as a stockbroker or somebody who provides tips on stock, and i was really surprised he said it's terrible now. this is not the time to invest in the stock market. >> i was following economists, they say it is odd for a major party nominee to make this kind of bleak statement about the american economy. in all your years of reporting, have you seen a nominee or major political candidate say this kind of thing about the economy? >> no. i mean, what they say is they may criticize the incumbent from the other party and say the economic policies are not working and i have better policies. but what trump was saying, that this is dreary. >> let's get a reality check on trump's claims. cnn's global economic analyst with me, and assistant managing

robert costa of the "washington post" and msnbc political analyst. bobalk about the trump campaign and their management in general, the staff. i mean, they just made a new hire. just hired rick wiley who used to work with scott walker's campaign but how much does it matter what happens next hour with corey lewandowski? >> lewandowski remains a confidant and travels with trump often and this decision by the prosecutor down in florida enables lewandowski to continue his role, but what we're seeing right now is an evolution within trump's inner circle. lewandowski has been the sole person at trump's side day by day. now that circle is expanding with the hire of rick wiley, former scott walker advisor but also paul manafort, the veteran gop consultant and others to get from a small operation to something with a national footprint, especially when it comes to state conventions. >> does it, is it too little too late at this point or how much did we read into the fact that they're reorganizing a bit? >> it may be too late. we've seen the trump campaign struggle

we begin this evening with donald trump an talk to robert costa from the "the washington " who interviewed him with long with bob woodward. >> the view in the senate, and the political community is they see trump as a political saf ant maybe someone with once in a generation with char is ma responding to the base but is so limited in being able to assume the role of party leader. >> rose: we continue with the former deputy mayor and former c.e.o. of bloomberg. >> we stepped back and said really what is the future of cities, how is this technology going to really fundamentally affect cities. and when you actual leplay it out you see a lot of different things that are going to, i think, create cities that are much greater or more efficient, more resilient, more adaptable, more personalized. we really believe that as we see this revolution play out we will be seeing very different cities that really improve the quality of life quite dramically. and that's the place that we want to play. >> rose: we conclude with arianna huffington, her new book called the sleep revolution, transforming your life one night at a time