with gingrich campaign adviser bob walker and former gingrich staffer, political analyst rich galen. i'm candy crowley, and this is "state of the union." >>> for more than two months, debt committee members have struggled with the complications of public policy and the reality of party politics. by way of good news, they're still talking to each other. >> we have 12 good people who have worked hard since this committee has been created to try to find sufficient common ground. >> i think all 12 members of this committee have really committed to doing that. we're working hard. >> still, it's hard to figure how they can in the hours left agree on a deal that has eluded them for months. joining me now for her first sunday interview as democratic co-chair of the super committee, senator patty murray from washington. thanks for being here at a tough time. there are multiple stories out there that it's over. >> look, i took on this task of co-chair with a real sense of the urgency of this country. the challenge that was in front of us and so many people saying to me, please, find a solution

the next day i watched bob walker jumping up and down saying bye-bye, marjorie.hat he was, really, he was right. i thought he was a bit of a jerk. and he was a fabulous jumper. [laughter] the just an extraordinary experience. and you saw this guy jumping up and down saying, bye-bye, marjorie. i thought, i really thought, you know, when i was talking to the leadership, i said, you know, you're giving up the seat. we haven't had a democrat -- the way my district was configured, we hadn't had a democrat like that ever. i won by 60, you know, 1,063 votes, who was counting. you're giving the seat up. so it was a combination of astonishment that the leadership hadn't pulled in if some of these people and realizing that it had to have -- i had no idea what a good effect it would have. i just thought it was something that we had to do. and and -- [applause] pleasure. >> ever had any regrets? >> well, you know, i think i did a drive-by, no question about it. i just came in and out. there are no regrets whatsoever. it just makes -- you look at what's going on, and you say,

. >> ron reagan jr., three republican candidates in a row, george herbert walker bush, bob dole, andliked. why won't they just do it again? the fourth guy in a row they don't like. >> well, they will. romney is going to be the nominee. but this is incredible. you know, ed is right. the republican voters are saying, look, he's the guy that can run against obama and maybe win, so we should try and get this guy in. but what's the big, you know, bete noir for republicans now? it's obamacare, obamas health care plan, creeping communism. but romney's plan is the same. so what are they voting for? >> ron, we've got witness ppz and we had one tonight. thank you, ed rollins as always. thank you, ron reagan. when we return, let me finish with the exasperation in this country with the two most vibrant political movements, the tea party, if you will, and certainly occupy wall street. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. [ female announcer ] we are taking new ultra downy with silktouch to the streets. which shirt feels more expensive? i get to touch these guys? oooh, ooh la la. i'm feeling t

george herbert walker bush, bob dole, and cain. not one of them they liked.urth guy in a row they don't like? >> well, they will. i mean, romney is going to be the nominee. this is incredible. you know, ed is right. the republican voters are saying, look. he's the guy that can run against obama and maybe win. so we should try and get this guy in. but what's the big -- you know, for the republicans now it's obama care, obama's health care plan, creeping communism. but romney's plan is the same. >> i got you. we got witnesses tonight. thank you. we had one witness tonight. thank you, ed rollins. when we return let me finish with the exasperation in this country with the two most vibrant political movements. the tea party if you will and certainly occupy wall street. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. your core competency is...competency. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm

russo capitols good to see you as always and republican former congressman, robert walker from pennsylvania nice to see you bobice to see you. >> leet's start with the debate, -- let's start with the debate, how bad was this for rick perry forgetting a part of his own plan. >> well, -- >> you defer to the republican. >> all right. >> well, it is harmful in that he has had a narrative about his campaign and just doesn't debate very well, and last night, they made that case and i think his campaign needs to go back and figure out whether or not, this is the right forum for him and there are some people talking saying they are going to pull him out of the rest of the debates i think that would also be harmful a lot of people are majoring right now, who is capable of standing on the stage with president obama, next fall when those debates take place and they are measuring candidate s with that as one of the criteria, certainly not the only criteria but one of the criteria. >> how damaging was it? >> today's social media it is all over youtube, it never goes away like the problem george alan had didn't seem to be a

walker starts today. tuesday, november 19th, 2011. >>> former penn state coach jerry sandusky's exclusive interview with nbc's bob costas. >> are you sexually attracted to young boys, to underage boys? >> am i sexually attracted to underage boys? >> yes. >> sexually attracted, i enjoy love people. i love to be around them, but no, i'm not sexually attracted to young boys. >> we'll have more on the costas interview of sandusky later but we begin with the first read of the morning and it's mc. already struggling to explain allegations of sexual harassment, now kain cain's campaign has a new challenge. the awkward, to be nice, way he handled a very basic question on libya in an editorial meeting. it is a meeting his own campaign requested. >> so you agreed with president obama on libya or not? >> okay. libya. president obama supported the uprising, correct? president obama called for the removal of khaddafy. just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing before i say yes i agreed or no, i didn't agree. i do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. no. that's a different one. i gotta go back. got all th

bob slum, thank you. >> thank you. >> nia-malika, thank you. thank both of you for your time. >> thank you. >>> ahead, governor scott walker is fighting for his political life. so republicans in wisconsin are digging deep into their bag of dirty tricks. we'll expose them tonight. >>> and here's a big surprise. mr. money, man newt gingrich is no fan of the 99% movement. surprised? >> i call on the president to repudiate the concept of the 99 and the 1. >> comments like that are only fueling the movement, and here's a sign it's time for gun reform. santa, the kids and guns! it's happening. that's next. usa prime credit... this peggy... hi, i'm cashing in my points... peggy? no more points - coupons now. coupons? coupons. coupons? next, you convert coupons to tokens. tokens? then you trade tokens for credits. and then i get the cash? then you call back. bye bye. peggy? hello? what just happened? want rewards that make sense? switch to discover. america's #1 cash rewards program. it pays to discover. it's like having portable navigation. a bluetooth connection. a stolen vehicle locator. roadside assistance. and something that could help save your life - au

bob mcdonald who wasn't supposed to win. he was overly ideological, right wing. >> he was on message. >> he talked about jobs, jobs, jobs, optimistic. you saw scott walkerut and says, you know what, i overreached. i should have listened more and talked less. mcdonald works with democrats. chris christie works with democrats. successful governors on both sides work with the other side. it's not a difficult formula. >> you said it right, joe. i don't think the people are ideological as much as they want jobs. they will look to whoever is focus on their needs. seems to be doing the job and creating jobs isn't waving a magic wand. it's a series of small steps the governors can take to just improve the economy bit by bit. those doing it will get re-elected and those that aren't won't. >> what's great to see is mcdonald was very much about accountability. it's about taking ownership and people want practicality and practical initiatives that are going to lead to job creation. >> whether you look at bob mcdonald from virginia on the right. >> yeah. >> or martin o'malley, border state on the left. both guys are aggressive and lean forward in their own way. they