. >> and bob woodward. also, a developing story involving navy s.e.a.l.s and a hostage rescue for an american kidnapped in somalia. but first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >>> good morning, mika. beautiful day in areas of the country, we're dealing with almost spring-time weather conditions. tornadoes possible in texas, and a tremendous amount of rain from san antonio all the way up to dallas. the worst of it right now on i-35 right around austin. some historic flooding ongoing. about 4 inches of rain in the last 2 hours. and that will head toward houston later on today. not quite as beautiful today in areas of the east, but still very nice. can't complain with temperatures in the 40s this time of year. southeast looks nice today, but that rain will move in for you tomorrow. minneapolis, little chilly, same for you in chicago, still damp weather in the northwest and beautiful around l.a. overall, still doesn't look like winter out there. more of a springtime forecast. you're watching "mo

in the daily newspaper, "the new york times" and the "washington post" had, as cal pointed out, bob woodwardithheld information for the book and this is a judgment the institution makes, and i do think readers of those newspapers ought to ask, hey, what is going on here. >> and they might ask, for example, why they had the fabulous halloween party, starting johnny depp and the director, tim burton and cost a billion dollars in 2009 and nobody knew about it for more than two years. >> the white house said it was on the daily press... >> being fair to that -- some bloggers... every reporter, not just the ones with a half million dollar advance like her, every other reporter seemingly knew about it and didn't think it was interesting they had a fabulous hollywood party with one of the biggest stars in the world and didn't match the narrative the white house wand about, we're fighting hard against recession in 2009 and, there are 3,000 press secretaries, schilling for the obama white house. >> i have a major problem actually with people withholding information. a lot of people do that. what is y

bob woodward is a navy guy. r should have looked at the charts eight times and made sure he knew where he was going. in a situation like that, there should be panic. >> the communication officer wasn't even supposed to -- >> when i was communications officer, the thought -- not the rule but the thought was the captain is the last to leave the ship and the one before him is the communications officer, because there's a communications problem to tell people what to do and organize them. >> wow. >> just awful. we have much more ahead on "morning joe." coming up next, david ignatius is here. also -- i better study. >> your dad is here. >> mika is studying dr. brzezinski's book. dr. brzezinski and david ignatius, bob woodward on "morning joe." >> i'm in trouble. this is an rc robotic claw. my high school science teacher made me what i am today. our science teacher helped us build it. ♪ now i'm a geologist at chevron, and i get to help science teachers. it has four servo motors and a wireless microcontroller. over the

he broke the greatest story o all-time and said it was a great learning experience but that is bob woodwarde: and he continues. >> he continued to learn. >> rose: it is different today. it is different today. >> totally. >> rose: why? >> well, because the world has changed, and when i first got in the business, for one thinge were all using typewriters. >> rose: yes. >> but beyond that. >> rose: electric, probably. >> you could just go, i still have my mother's select trick typewriter you could walk in the locker room and nobody stocked you .. >> ther there weren't interviews with corporate logos and no internet and guys didn't communicate through the web site, through twitter and commercials. >> i still remember 20 years ago the first sign of the apocalypse coming in reporting for me was i was talking to andre agassi's agent and at that time agassi would only talk to the media in post match press conferences and would not do any one on one's with anybody except one minute tv interview after a match and i said doesn't andre owe the public me, it is the public that makes him rich and famous

house press office yeah nixon did this he had this thing called an enemy's list and it was i think bob woodward was quite proud that he was on a lot of other people were harassed as a result of being on a lot of people got their taxes audited because of things like that and it's very troubling to think of them being this far outside of their bounds this is it's a law enforcement agency it has a statutory duty is to protect the american public it doesn't have a statutory duty is to to collect dissenting opinions and database are there any other dimensions to this surveillance program that we need to know about well i think that it has a troubling effect on legitimate dissent and free speech on line. if you have a freedom of expression if you know freedom of speech i mean you wouldn't expect that the government would be there taking notes and i think that has a real chilling effect it does have a tendency to to quell that adamant dissent why is it that most americans don't know about this. well up until now the department of homeland security hasn't really been releasing these sorts of documents

downie: only ben bradley and carl bernstein and bob woodward knew. smith: well, when did you know? downie: i didn't know for years afterwards. so, so but what i did know was.we were just going through the archive again today. smith: yeah. downie: because this was such a sensitive story, we made them type out all their notes from all their interviews from all their confidential sources. smith: right. downie: their many confidential sources, and every confidential source except deep throat had their name at the top of it, so i knew who deep throat wasn't when people would speculate. smith: oh, well that's. downie: right. smith: . but that's so interesting. that's great. downie: so when people would say. smith: it's like a game. downie: but people would say alexander haig is deep throat. no, he isn't. he was at the top of the smith: i know he's not. downie: so that was an advantage. so i figured i can guess, right? so after everything was over and nixon resigned and everything, i, i think about this, and i decide, i, i try out richardson. what was his first name? smith: elliot richard

you know, in "all the president's men," bob woodward is not robert redford but kelly evans is kelly evanso clapped and hooted like it was a chippendale's review. you know "married with children," every person who walked in would get applause. that was that's what it was like. i was tired of it. >> andrea: i wish it was chippendale's review. >> greg: shirtless -- >> eric: how do you know what a chippendale's review is like? >> greg: let's say i had to make my way through college. not on stage. i did the laundry. >> dana: of what? >> greg: somebody has been there. >> andrea: after you ask the questions, juan, i have to say i wasn't at chippendale's review, i was happy to be watching you. >> greg: best and worst moments? >> andrea: newt gingrich because your monologue says he's on the right. i love mean people and i thought he was mean. the loser, ron paul. i got to say, i don't think he had -- he has good debate performances. this is not one of his best. why doesn't anyone bring up the fact. i'm not an agent. i don't think it's an issue. but why do people say certain candidates is too old t

these strategy papers that have no mentions of islam and and jihad, and mccrystal's report that bob woodward got into the "washington post," no mention of islam. >> you said general mccrystal will work for seimens, and that old soldiers never die, they just lobby. >> this was a little bit of a needle. >> a lot of former generals -- >> there is something about him -- he had the mystique as the spartans general who barely it's a meal per day, and then became an extremely fat lobbyist after he left his position. just, given the afghanistan efforts in terms of living with the people and making them like us, and then going over into the corporate world, this is a common trap but -- >> do you have children? >> i have two children. one of them is 19. >> are they in school? >> one is in school and one is taking time off. this was -- what was a light, raising twins? >> this is fascinating. your fascinated as you are frustrated. >> are the boys or girls? >> girls. >> are they interested in what you do? >> they are not. >> what about politics? >> they are not too interested. >> where did you meet your

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[inaudible] >> the president, all has to do, read obama's war by bob woodward. you sort of dragged into thinking they're really looking for a way out. >> the polls show most americans are against a war, one out. and what is stopping obama from following the mood of the country? >> the military, there's a wonderful piece in the post today to talk about sort of militarism. nobody wants to do all want to spend more money on military and they want to be tough, and it's tough to say today that we're losing or even that there is a military solution. what's going to happen, i predict within the next year, i mean, by withdrawing 33,000 troops, you can't win a counterinsurgency when you are drawing down. so the handwriting is on the wall. they started the withdrawal but they haven't changed the policy. they have to. that's our job. stevens job, edwards job. deeter, you have to change those germans. yet to get the germans on board, to. >> they try to be good. i have to say that they want, they don't want -- [inaudible] that's an old vietnam story, right? kissinger created

for example, bob woodward, i don't think in any of his books about the bush white house, i don't think access to dick cheney. still, an image of dick cheney emerged from that work, which is cross cut through deferent people who were in meetings with cheney, who gives quotes about which is what cheney said. it seems to me, it's a normal progress to continue to work on these portraits even when the central subjects, some of them, sometimes, don't give you direct interviews. >> i think that's very true and i think what's also true is that, you know, i have interviewed the president and first lady, and they're very short interviews. and there is so much they can't say in a way that's part of what the book is about. is they come into these incredibly confined roles. so what i found is that aides and friends were able to tell really rich, meaningful stories about the transitions they were going through. you've heard some of the big headlines from the book already. but the book is also about how to carve a place in this universe. how to make a life amid this sort of craziness of the white hou

comes with the kennedy brand, the marketing that comes with him having charity ski events where bob woodward of abc spends his time at an environmental charity run by, you know, robert f. kennedy jr. these people are married to each other. they do their investments together, and the media is as corrupt as the political class and are benefiting as well. >> i think that's very well said. i think, steve, did you have a comment to make here? i think what andrew said is true, by the way. yes, i have to say "60 minutes" was completely and totally fair and above board with me, they knew where i was coming from politically, they retraced my research steps, and they were put under a lot of political pressure on this story. they did a fabulous job. and peter boyar at "newsweek" was just fabulous. yes, you are right, there are good guys out there, and in my pessimism i should have mentioned that, so thanks for reminding me. >> but, peter, lets be specific, the scale of this is incomprehensive. but let's be very specific. there were hearings this week in the house controlled by the republicans where you

[inaudible] >> the president, all you have to do is read obama's words by bob woodward. they're really looking for a way out. >> the polls show that most americans are against the war and walked out. and what is stopping obama? >> you know, there is a wonderful piece in the post today, talking about the military. they all want to be tough here. they don't want to spend money on the military. they want to be tough. such as they were losing or even that there is no military solution. but i predict within the next year you might just see i was dry and 33,000 troops coming you can't win a counterinsurgency when you're trying down. so the handwriting is on the wall. they started to withdraw but have a changed policy. they don't have to. that's our job. >> you've got to change those germans. you've got to get the germans on board, too. >> they try to be good. i tried to say that. i [inaudible] -- kissinger increased the price by staying out of point in time for everything was going in a different direction and caused many, many lives and that's the issue here, not to make the

well, in the movie "all the president's men," the character known as deep throat tells bob woodward and bernstein to follow the money, and even though that was not actually a line from the book, that was something that a screenwriter wrote, it became a rallying cry for generations of people who care about transparency and accountability. i think it's fair to say it's more difficult now to follow the money than it might have been, and there are a number of reasons for that. the truth is, transparency has been eroding for some time now. it's not just because of the citizens united ruling. my own view is that the greatest threat to transparency if you could call it a threat is the increased activism and political engagement of nonprofit groups as i'm sure you guys know, the internal revenue service doesn't require nonprofits to disclose the source of their spending. there really are minimal disclosure and reporting requirements, and that's probably for very good reason. it dates all the way back to the civil rights era when the irs wanted to protect groups that were active in issues like c

as bob woodward said yesterday, every candidate has to release -- >> when tax loopholes became the centerpiece of the conversation, wouldn't you not want that found out during the campaign like some big revelation? >> he has been so reticent about it that it suggests -- suggests that he's very sensitive around this. and clearly, you know, there's stuff that's politically problematic. and i agree with you that to get it out earlier would have been better. i was interested to read about what some of this stuff is going to reveal the extent of the ties to the mormon church. and he's not only given a lot of money to them but the church has benefitted from investments to bain and so on. romney has been very -- tried very hard to keep the question of mormonism and his discussion of mormonism out of the campaign for reasonable reasons, but there's a financial side to this too. >> are you suggesting that it's bad? >> i'm not suggesting any such thing. i'm suggesting he's sensitive to the potential challenges that his mormonism poses. and there's a side of this that goes to the church. and he may have

. >> i recall watching senator mcgovern and robert woodward and bob scheiffer at the time of presidentford'seral and his friendship with president ford and said he had voted for ford in 1976 and he said he discussed it with his family afterwards and found he did that as well and i about fell off my chair because i'm a strong democrat. i wonder if that came into the mix of information about senator mcgovern ever? >> scott? >> he did have great affection for gerald ford. i don't know that he voted for him but he had problems with president carter. president carter wasn't supportive of him in 1972. and president carter borrowed the strategy to get his nomination in 1976 and he was a little hurt. the magnitude of senator mcgovern's loss that he was a prahia and there was some hurt feelings. he worked with a number of republicans. he and bob dole have partnered and he was capable of working across the aisle. he wasn't someone who worked in a partisan manner. >> the congressman from south dakota, the senator from there decides to make a run for the presidency. having to -- having decided to run, m