now, i could say a lot of things about bobby seale, but i'm going to let bobby do most of the talking i've had a couple great honors in being with bobby. when i first was called to come to california, they told me pack enough clothes to stay for two weeks, and i ended up staying for five year. the only time we came back was to close the philadelphia chapter and bring everybody to california. and that's how it went. but we followed those orders. sometimes we questioned, sometimes we fought, sometimes we tried to figure, but we just got the job done. and that's what it was all about. and bobby seale was the person that after huey came up with our creative ideas and the theory, but bobby could take this stuff and massage it and put it into a practical way to get it to the comrades, put it in a pact l call way to implement the programs, put it in a practical way to show structural support. when bobby seale ran for mayor of oakland, one of the most exciting things i had the chance to be a part of, but it's a short story i've got to tell you. they hid my candidate out on me for a week. they

you see, when i was coming along in the '60s, huey newton and bobby seal and martin and marion wright aid edelman and the othe, it was very clear they had such a depth of integrity that they would never sell out to the highest bidder. never. whereas the market-driven society we have for our young people you ask them who your heros are, they tend to be those who are most visible in the market, who had the biggest money. well, how much political courage do they have? well, i hadn't really thought about that. [laughter] and there's nothing wrong with having a certain kind of genius. oprah winfrey has entrepreneurial genius. i can celebrate it, and i love her until the day i die. but when you juxtapose her with ella baker, you see that there's not a lot of political courage at work. and it has to do with her market calculations. who's watching the show. same tz all these folk -- same as all these folk on television. you can just see 'em all cramped up. they really won't tell the truth because they have limits. that's the danger of putting all these folks, especially these days. it's almos

bobby herald the speaker has endorsed us as have a number of veterans, medal of honor recipient. jim livingston. and navy sealindividuals like that that matter. understand that our country's future is at hand here. and a president who could get the economy back going and who has the military experience of being not only a pilot in the air force, but the commander-in-chief of the texas state forces for the last 11 years, i think that's a message that will resonate in south carolina. megyn: does it all come down to south carolina for you? at some point if you don't start winning some states, how will you make that decision. i look at the caucus process. new hampshire is new hampshire. i respect the process. south carolina, those first two states have been good about winnowing the candidates down. south carolina picks presidents. i happen to think whoever wins south carolina will be the nominee. megyn: no one has ever won south carolina without having won new hampshire or iowa. >> there is always a first time. megyn: let's talk about what we are seeing in the news. there seems to be a war of words between the fr

i throw it right on top, seal it up nicely and 25 minutes later in a 350-degree oven it bakes into something beautiful, warm and steamy. >> bobbycity steak pot pie. it's important to know where you're from. i like this. it's sort of a cheat, but that's okay. >> it's a mom cheat. >> exactly right. making the right choice is the important point here. it's really good. i love the red wine and steak. really good. >> you suggest chilling the cabernet. >> i know it's crazy, but i dissolve corn starch in it but you want it to be cold. >> good flavor. >> hickory smoked country chicken pot pie. >> yes, sir. >> where did you get it? >> i made it up for the competition, to be honest with you. i grew up on b a family cattle ranch in california. i wanted to make my own spin on a tradition. everybody's heard of chicken pot pie. >> sure. do you make your own crust? >> do i. it's got dried garlic and thyme. savory flavors. crust can be bland sometimes. >> himalayan pink salt. >> yes. >> why? >> matches my shirt. >> there is a reason for everybody. >> i'm glad it's not paprika. >> you do egg wash, cracked himalayan, cracked black. gives a nice