john boehner sign onto this. again, he keeps the government open. and that was a short-term priority. but medium and long-term the president gets his health care and immigration priorities moving forward. that's not what rank and file conservatives want. there are republican leaders tonight saying, look, what we did was set the stage for big battles ahead next year. we'll see. we've heard that before. we're going to repeal obamacare. we're going to do this and then republican leaders don't follow through. we'll see whether their base is upset tonight or not, sean. >> ed, the speaker would have had more leverage with the majority of congress coming in in january here. as you pointed out health care is funded, obamacare's funded through october now of next year. immigration will come up, what, some time in february. >> february. >> there's no telling what they're going to do there either. the question is if every republican ran on the idea of repealing health care and replacing it, that's off the table now pretty m

john boehner is the country's top ranking republican. but as mcconnell as the new leader in town, almost more important as to whether this works? >> i would argue, yes. one of the things i've seen on capitol hill since the election, i've been there almost every day, there's a new dynamic in republican power. the house majority led by speaker boehner used to be calling the shots day in and day out. now you have mcconnell with -- running the -- prepared to run the u.s. senate. and he's the one who seems to be playing point guard for the party. and he is the party leader with boehner, of course, but mcconnell i think wants to govern responsibly and set the party up for major gains in '16. that started in 2014 by pushing back the tea party and starts now by making sure all the passions and eagerness in the house don't overtake the party. >> in a lot of ways, that helps boehner, right? because mcconnell is over there and he has his conference, he has a much tighter rein on that conference than in recent months we've seen speaker boehner has o

ladies and gentlemen, the honorable john boehner. [applause] >> well, thank you, stephen, and let me thank all of you who are here tonight, and a big thank you to everyone who was involved in making this evening happened. from the architect team to the forest service to the people of minnesota and to the thousands of students who made the decorations, all of this, this tree truly embodies the christmas spirit. as in our dome is in a series of restoration, we are here to begin one of our own. humbler the first christmas, on a quiet night, but it is to these simple men that the angels appear, and announcing that unto you is born this day the city of david a savior, which is grace, the lord. though justs rejoice at the gift, and they go to catch a glimpse of it for themselves. , they now go to bethlehem come to one another and say, and see what is come to pass, and once they get there, they share their good tidings with the world. what makes christmas so magical. it is a time to rediscover for ourselves the glory of god's love, to see w

it would have been one thing for the john boehner and the republicans to find enough votes to pass it, but it is another thing for the house democrats to put it over the top, and that is why i worked so hard to defeat it. >> the democratic votes on it is the issue. the republicans knew they would lose some of the member, and they did not make that much of an effort to hold on to their own members when they panicked a little bit today, and what do you think was enough to turn more than 50 democrats around to vote for this thing today? the pressure from the white house or what were you hearing from the colleagues when you were asking them for a no-vote? >> well, it is a combination of thing, and one is the pressure of the white house, and when the white house issued a statement of policy saying that they would support the bill, that hurt our chances. secondly, many of my colleagues thought that the individual pieces of the budget were good enough to kind of hold our nose on those two onerous provisions. and for those who say that we don't have a message, we have messages, and the republ

and thank you, speaker boehner, for being here in the midst. and also, i notice that another leader on the democratic side, hoyer, is also with us today. i'd like to thank our brave ten-year-old boy aaron for being here. we're very excited to have you light up this tree for us tonight. it is so fitting that our state is providing this huge christmas tree from the forest in minnesota. you should know that ojibwe is also home to a huge statue of paul bunyan and babe the blue ox. here's a fun fact. it would also take more than four paul bunyan statues to reach the star on that tree. as was noted, i was there at the beginning, when this tree was cut by minnesota's logger of the year, who is a really big guy. i wanted to do it myself, but he took over. this tree then traveled 2,000 miles from the chippewa national forest. and i was at some of the events in minnesota. i was astounded by the thousands of school kids that would turn out just to see this tree. with all the cynicism, we can have sometimes in washington, it makes you realize that the peop

nancy pelosi, john boehner and his lieutenants have to get to 218. for every republican they lose you have to get one democrat and nancy pelosi is not a giving mood. she doesn't want to agree to something before she sees it. same with conservative republicans. they don't want to vote for this until they know what is in there. >> there's also the question -- she tipped her hand on leverage -- today is the day the symbolic anti-immigration litigation was happening. nobody is saying i'm going to be with john boehner today of all days but it's clear that nancy , pelosi and steny hoyer will end up going along. i think harry reid gave them away a couple of days ago when he said he was in favor of a her -- boehner's plan will stop >> -- plan. >> it represents the first nine months of republican dominance when they control both chambers. that is why harry reid is psyched about it. if republicans think they are going to have a lot of leverage playing a game of chicken, i have a bridge in los angeles i would like to sell them. >> i would like to buy that bridg

capitol christmas tree, ladies honorablemen, the john boehner. [applause] andell, thank you steven let me thank all of how are here tonight, and a big thank you to inryone who is involved making this evening happen. from the architects team to the forest service, to the people of minnesota and to the thousands thetudents who made decorations, all this, this tree the christmas spirit. season our dome is in a of restoration, we are here to own. one of our this scene was much hum bloomberg that first christmas, group much she hers keeping watch on a quiet night. but it is to these simple men a the angel suddenly appears, unto you is born this day the city of david a savior, which is christ the lord. the shepherds don't just rejoice at this gift, they go and catch a glimpse of it for themselves. now go to bethlehem, they come to one another and

mitch mcconnell and john boehner knew that. after the 2010 election when the republicans had john boehner as the speaker, conservative members like steve king of iowa and michele bachmann of minnesota who said that what the republicans needed cr do was to put language that was coming up, it was funding the government through the beginning of the year. they were saying put language cr that prohibits implementation of obamacare. there were great many republicans in congress were fort and john boehner was not. republican leadership cut a deal of president obama, the first of many spending deals that started the implementation of obamacare but continued running up massive debt for the u.s. government. if you look at the spending bills, anybody can pull up a pdf of these massive cr's, you will see language like none of the money appropriated in this act or any other act or no funds appropriated -- there are dozens of sentences in there that use the power of the purse to prohibit the administration from doing certain things. one of t

>> look, we have had some of these moments in the pass with john boehner c john boehner walking off thead down. i was there for the tarp belt could have crashed the go global economy and it didn't make a lot of difference. i think in general, it's not a huge overwhelming feeling that you don't want to pants your speaker on the verge off this. >> you don't want to pants your speaker any time. and yet there's rumor that the conservative faction may attach rider that's are non-starters with democrats and republicans are relying on democrats to get this over the finish line. >> i'm not entirely convinced that john boehner is out of control here. i think he knows these shoguns put on the same script, you put on a plan, you pass the plan, i think they basically resigned themselves to that being the case, maybe will be different when he has a larger majority and don't need to rely on 30 or 40 conservatives to get in goli. maybe tomorrow they will unveil this cromnibus and eventually will be passed by the senate. >> that's everybody's expectation. there's also the idea maybe conservatives will

but he was run of those that john boehner voted on today. they just scooched this thing by in the first pro sees you'ral vote. they only won the procedural vote by two votes. they had zero democrats to help them do it. this day was supposed to be easy but almost died right there. after that unexpectedly close vote. the house went into recess at 2: 07 p.m. eastern time. they stayed in recess all afternoon long. all through evening. all through dinner time until after 9:00. and the government shut down was set to happen at midnight tonight. if they didn't come up with some sort of funding bill that they could pass. and everybody thought this was no problem. that it was going to be simple but turned to be out chaos to the point where the white house today got cabinet secretaries and vice president himself on the phone lobbying house democrats trying to persuade them to actually vote yes to go along with john boehner and his plan on this. they dpt think they would have to do that. they thought it would be fine. house democrats in the white house

i referred to john boehner last night as john gruber boehner. i think he did let down.nk he would have had new majority, he only would have needed continuing resolution into the new year, i think they would have had more leverage. i think going this way and funding obamacare through the end of the year is foolish. what are your thoughts? >> we got a 2500-page bill, no one will have a chance to read this bill much less have it printed for everyone to read. and it's a crummy way to run your government because the bill's 2500 pages long. there will be no amendment. there will be no reforms. this is how we've been running government for a decade. we lurch from deadline to deadline and we now have an $18 trillion debt. i'm a no-vote on it because i won't get a chance to look at the entire bill before we can vote on it. so it's a crummy way to run government. >> that's another thing. i mean, speaker boehner said 2,000-page bills are not a good thing, this was 1,774 pages. there was no 72-hour window that people could actually read what they were actually voting on. this to me

boehner plan. and then just last week. the beltway narrative was that john boehner had a plan. that he if i cfigured out that everything was going to be fine. but speaking of crazy right wingers, there was that very chilly press conference last week with all the rest of them saying not only did they not fear a shut down, not obanly di they not want to do it they said anyone who sloeted what they wanted shouldn't be allowed to take the oath of office. all along, the beltway has been saying it's feenl. joan boehner says it's going to be fine, so it's going to be fine. but there were these signs on the right. there were also signs at john boehner's office. we all know the time line now. there have been seize e these signs that maybe this plan that was going to make it all so easy was starting to become slightly a less easy thing. first we were told that the bill was definitely going to be filed first sumpbd porning. glif e gives them plenty of time. first we told them it would be monday morning. and t

shortly thereafter, president obama announced his support for the boehner plan. here is josh earnest trying to explain why the president sided with republicans in the house. >> there is a significant benefit associated with congress acting responsibly to pass a budget without the threat of a shutdown. and to do so over an extended period of time. over a full year. it provides the kind of certainty that's important to our economy. and that is among the reasons why the president supports the passage of this proposal and would sign it if it arrives on his desk. lou: it may have been the president would have been better off and the bill more likely to succeed if he had not endorsed the legislation. his support coming so quickly, and the support then fading in the house. speaker boehner was forced to recess the house and postpone the vote a vote they thought they would one. not before nancy pelosi, one of the president's staunchest allies at least in times past, took to the floor to blast president obama for siding with republicans. fox news chief correspondent michae

it goes back to the leadership of speaker boehner.cizing him for not being a strong leader. the leader of the speaker of the house. with that said if he can't john decretely get grimm to resign, what does that say about speaker boehner? >> that's one of the calculation that john boehner has to make. if she's going to push him he has to make sure that grimm follows the order or it could backfire on john boehner. when it comes to issues like these john boehner's track record more than than not if he needs to shove somebody out of the way he gets his way. >> thank you very much. i don't think we'll see you until the new year. i love your mom more than i love you. >> thank you. happy holidays. >> she's adorable. thank you, mark. good to see you. >>> it's being called unprecedented. a fiery christmas message from pope francis to officials who run the vatican. accusing the cardinals and bishops of forming cliques he called cancerous and told them they need to repent for leading hypocritical lives. >>> plus, an alleged road rage incident cau

boehner could insist he wants grimm to re-sign. boehner and grimm talked.t be surprised if that's what boehner actually told him. grimm has shown no indication that he is going to re-sign or that he could somehow be forced out of office unless the full house votes to expel him, which would be something that would take a long time to accomplish. >> why aren't we hearing more from republicans that actually oppose a convicted felon representing their party in congress? >> right now, it is probably largely because they are just not in session right now. grimm probably negotiated when he was going to get indicted, when he was going to plead and negotiated it for the week of christmas. that was a smart thing on his part. the fact is that most members of congress aren't in washington, d.c. so reporters can't walk up to them and ask them, do you think michael grimm should re-sign? i guarantee you, quite a few would say yes. >> it is the holiday. thanks for joining us on christmas eve. >> yep. good to be on. >> happy holidays to you. >>> now, for some entertainment

we have heard that some are pushing back against boehner's plan but will this make any difference in the end? >> i think it works against the interest of ted cruz and those would like to see bipartisan compromise in washington. if he goes forward with this proposal of giving democrats a lot of what they want, which is a budget agreement into next year, i think we are headed toward nancy loc having to provide votes to get this passed and that's going to produce a bipartisan deal that could be the building block for more to come most of which ted cruz will not like. >> i think that is exactly right. not only is what you said true, nancy pelosi has not said whether she would allow a vote on this but john boehner's hand is only going to be strengthened in the next congress. he will have a bigger majority to work with and that will let him ignore some of the farthest right members of his congress -- of his congress to get things done. i dig it will strengthen boehner's hand if it gets done. >> president likes it, harry reid likes it -- when those guys agree, that's a very big deal. yester

lou: i will credit speaker boehner on one bases. in moving the $1.1 trillion, made it the democratic problem in the senate, and the republicans if it does come to, this they won't be the ones held responsible by the public in my judgment. >> silver lining in every cloud, there's one that you can find. good for you. lou: thank you very much, coming from you, mike, that means a great deal. thank you, governor, appreciate it. >>> watch "huckabee" on the fox news channel saturday and sunday nights at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >>> time for a quick look at online poll results. we asked -- be sure to vote in our poll tonight, downing the leadership of both parties are taking direction from the chamber of commerce and the business roundtable or is it just the gop? cast your vote at loudobbs.com. >>> new warnings tonight that a third of the country, some 100 million of us could lose power in the event of a massive solar storm. that's according to a government study that found that if the united states were hit with a major solar event we could suff

i think when you look at scalise and john boehner, this was an opportunity for john boehner to be decisive and demote at the least scalise. they wanted to hit the ground running come january the 6th. it makes it difficult. hitting the ground is out of question. >> let's switch to michael grim. talking about the stature of john boehner do you think he added to the stature by helping to show grim the door? >> yes. grim showed a determination to stay in office. he is a convicted felon now. it's an embarrassment for his district. there'll be a special election. possible that another republican will see him. there wasn't a huge risk. in new york city the race issue is heating up very very big because of the tensions between the police and the mayor. that is likely to play a role in the coming campaign. >> on the senate side do you think the majority leader mitch mcconnell can cabinet his own conference under control? >> well, you know it's a little too early to say that. his conference is a little bit - because of its size and the fact that some of the people that are wildcards in his conferenc

and you see in john boehner's statement, he called it an error in judgment. if you didn't know who you wered a depressing, that's bad advance work and that's not bad judgment. i think the fact that the story has shifted the way it has today means that republicans are going to have to continue to answer questions about this, even if there's a pretty clear media double standard here i mean you know president obama was listening to reverend wright for years, he spoke at an event and was involved with some pretty seedy characters. >> lots to chew on there, let me get to scalese's comments that you referred to. i am very disappointed that anyone would try to infer otherwise for political gain, as a catholic these groups hold views that are investmentally opposed to any own faith and i reject that kind of bigotry. nancy ploes -- anti-semitic and the southern poverty law center is a hate group is deeply troubling. can he survive? >> so far he seems to have the support of republican leadership, i actually think it's interesting that pell pelosi and other democratic l

boehner was the most important. but apart from boehner and apart from louisiana politicians, national republican leaders aren't very eager to talk about steve scalise. i've reached out and no one wants to talk this one. it's pretty much no comments all around. >> what is going to be the first thing speaker boehner does say about this as he does return? >> it's likely he's going to get a lot of questions as to how he came to this decision. it's a disappointment likely for boehner. they have a promising -- they have two promising black freshman. >> interesting as we talk about eating their own perhaps. we have mark levin using this as an opportunity. questioning how scalise can show up at this event in the first place. >> he has an answer. it's a bit confusing. basically, i would have shown up to any place if they had asked me. a lot of this is conservatives who were upset for other reasons. many are upset that he sided with boehner on the budget deal that a lot of the party was opposed to. >> is this something that w

but speaker boehner was apparently able to change his mind. how did he do it?> it seems that way, ayman. house speaker john boehner has been aggressive in pushing back on any ethics violation that might put a stain on his republican house. and while grimm and boehner did not meet in person. they did speak on the phone, i'm told. it was that conversation that seems to have changed grichl's mind. he's been defiant through the process through an indictment. most of the counts in the indictment ultimately didn't stick. he pleaded to only one the count of tax evasion. >> the congressman released a statement yesterday. i want to read it and put it up on the screen for the viewers. and therefore out of respect for the office and the people i proudly represent it is time for me to start the next chapter of my life. governor cuomo announced there will be a special election. to we know yet who some of the candidates may be to fill the seat? >> ayman, it could potentially be a competitive election. it's a district that swung back and forth over the years. and there are al

why do you think speaker boehner is standing by scalise today? >> because the republicans don't care. because they can say bad things about women, bad things about gays bad things about black people, and they keep winning congress. so they have no electoral consequences for supporting people with this kind of behavior. it's clear steve scalise is lying. he knew where he was. he's not fooling anybody. but the republican won't suffer any consequences for it so boehner will have his back and they'll still give obama trouble in the next couple of years. >> we're not talking about all republicans, but he is the third top ranking guy in congress. and many people make mistakes. all of us have said things we didn't do but we talk about a pattern here that's a little more when we thought when we first heard this from a blogger yesterday. for example, 1999 a newspaper talked about then state lawmaker steve scalise about david duke possibly running for congress. quote, state representative steve scalise said he embraces many of the same conservative views a

want all of boehner's republicans will go along.hem happy, boehner will hold a vote to reject the president's immigration proposals as early as today. the real fight over immigration has been scheduled for january. meanwhile, on wednesday, 17 states filed a lawsuit against the president. they say his executive order violates the constitution. tom? >> very good. in basketball, in pro basketball, the philadelphia 76ers no longer have a chance to be world's biggest loser. after starting with 17 straight losses, the sixers beat minnesota last night nicely, 85-77. if they lost, the sixers would have tied the league record for the worst start ever, ever, ever. the lovely nets went 0-18 five years ago. those are our top headlines this morning. let the news continue here on the bank of england. >> bank of england, no change, keeps interest rates unchanged at .5%. no change to its asset purchase plan either. but in another headline separately, saudi arabia is cutting all january oil prices to the united states and asia. this is in an effort

i want to start off by getting your reaction to speaker boehner boehner's comments.y point to what has happened in iraq after the withdrawal of american troops. the rise in violence the emergence of isis and say the same could happen in afghanistan. what do you think america has learned from the iraq experience and how will afghanistan be any different? >> as i do that, let me offer my think sympathy to the families the airasia tragedy and express my sympathy for their loss. i wish our speaker would see the good of what has been accomplished in afghanistan albeit we were distracted by moving to iraq in the middle of the afghan war. i think the president has made a thoughtful decision. first, we must honor the more than 2 2200 men and women who died in the united states military and total of 3500 around the war. it made it the longest war we've known in our history here in the united states and it is time for a resolution to come. the resolution is an important thoughtful one. we're leaving behind close to 11,000 troops. 11,000 are united states advisers and others wo

not speaker boehner, not repealed hack.re was found on the site's servers but the government insists no personal data were stolen. number three hitting close to home. fort lauderdale two of the official websites temporarily down after threats from the hacker group anonymous over the city's ban on feeding the homeless. jennifer lawrence with nutd photographs of her released online. she called that hacking a sex crime. number five domino's pizza. getting a special delivery from one hacking group in june threatening to publish over 600,000 customer records if domino didn't comply with the $40,000 command. they reassured customers their data was not stolen. >>> that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. >>> tamron talks-- i'll see you here tomorrow 7 . >>> time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. gabriel wanted funding for wash cycle laundry. his bike laundry pick up and delivery service. he had a tough time getting investors to take the philadelphia company seriously. he boot strapped the business, made some money. i'

speaker boehner could depend on nancy pelosi to get this done? >> that's right.e could suffer defections in the republican ranks but still find enough votes from democrats to get him over the line. nancy pelosi was asked about that earlier today. this was her response. >> i have reached out to the speaker and said, extend a hand of friendship, we want to work together to pass a bill to keep government open, as we had to supply the votes last year to open up government. let's apply the votes to keep government open. but we cannot do it unless we have a bill that is worthy of our support. last words are important. democrats want to see what's in the legislation, if republicans have added any other extra conditions. they could be prepared to walk away and then we have the risk again of a shutdown showdown here in washington. >> peter cook on capitol hill, thank you. let's get more on the story with maya macguineas. she is with us from our d.c. bureau. welcome back to "bottom lin --"bottom line." i was going to start by talking about the nation's fiscal picture but i

boehner speaks, we'll take it live for you. the cia's tactics described in chilling detail including waterboarding, sleep deprivation and ice water baths and worse. the senate committee concluded that the harsh tactics simply did not work in getting valuable intelligence. and the justice department says it will not reopen its inquiry into whether crimes were committed, raising new questions of accountability and blame. we're covering all angles of this from capitol hill to the pentagon and beyond as this developing story unfolds. let's begin coverage with jim acosta at the white house. good morning, jim. >> good morning, carol. the white house has scheduled an early briefing this morning with reporters. that's scheduled to happen in about 45 minutes from now and i think the question about the torture report thereby question of the briefing for white house press secretary josh ernest. the president defended the relief of the torture report saying mistakes were made but former top white house cia officials are coming forward spea

>> boehner's fault. >> you hate boehner, don't you?d boehner. >> on the border, major invasion taking place right now. president really hasn't stopped that. >> are we talking about in israel? >> are you putting me on? >> maybe i'll put you on later. >> i think he's had about enough. >> if he issues an executive order, he should be impeached. >> did you come here legally? >> yes, i did. >> do you think it's fair if people come here illegally and jump the line? >> yes, i believe it's unfair. >> why has the president allowed all these illegal aliens to come across the border. >> they're not aliens. >> what are they? >> they are humans. >> i am an illegal alien. >> would you be okay if the president shipped the illegal immigrant kids to martha's vineyard? >> no. >> why is it okay if the president ships them to other parts of the country. >> i don't ewith that. >> what about overseas? has the president been a strong commander in chief? >> i would say so. >> in what way? >> um -- [ crickets ] >> what was i supposed to say again? >> what has

john boehner will have to contend with that.ancy pelosi and harry reid have their unified rank because they are so small. i can guarantee you they would love to have mitch mcconnell or john boehner problems. what we will see is john boehner put forth options like this that will tie closely to the principle that got the republicans into power without confronting president obama as strongly as they can on something like the immigration deal where it is clear it is a bipartisan even president obama himself has said in the past doing this is a constitutional overreach to john boehner feels like conservatives have a pretty good ground to stand on to combat that. jon: talking but bipartisan approaches, apparently harry reid on the democratic side in the senate has expressed some openness this idea of funding all the agencies of government long term except homeland security. if harry reid is on board, or republicans naturally going to become suspicious? >> i think that is exactly right, and harry reid does not do anything by accident.

>> i don't know john boehner. >> don't know who boehner is?like amazing. >> what was that? >> very tan, cries a lot. >> oh, that john boehner. >> sorry, shows his emotions, it's okay. >> i don't think he gets his way. >> i have a couple of boys that cry when they don't get their way too. >> give them a spanking? >> mmm. >> republicans, what do they stand for. >> like you get to keep more of your money. >> first thing you think of? >> country folk, down south. >> one of you turds about to get smacked in the mouth. >> conservative. >> conservative. >> i like them, i think. >> one's for abortion, one's not. >> which one's which? >> republicans for, democrats not. >> got it the other way. >> general impression of the republican party. >> more for the rich, rich and greedy. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think we need a new party, republicans and democrats, how long has that been going on for? >> yeah. >> it's getting boring. >> bill o'reilly? on a scale of one to ten. >> like a 15, bill o'reilly from newport. >> i said good day! >> you want a straight int

i think boehner is going to get away with it this time. he picked up 18 seats, there seems to be less of an appetite for revolution this time and i think everybody on the scene in the republican conference knows that pantsing your speaker on the eve of one of the biggest victories your party has had in a decade is probably not fantastic politics. my instinct tells me they'll come up with something that will avoid the worst possible scenario. >> on december 11th. we need to end every sentence with "on december 11th." let's say they pass a cromnibus? what then happens in march? >> there's very technical questions about whether or not they can actually defund this executive action the president put in place. the executive action itself is based on user fees. in essence, it funds itself. so can congress come in and say, no, we're defunding the implementation of this? maybe not, maybe so. there's been duelling letters. i don't want to bore the audience. they'd probably be more interested in croughnuts. >> that's probably true. >> you're ramping

>> i don't know john boehner. >> you don't know who boehner is? >> no.at? >> cries a lot, very tan. >> oh, that john boehner. >> shows his emotions. it's okay. >> well, i don't think he always gets his way. i think i have a couple little boys that cry when they don't get their way too. >> do you give them a spanking? >> what? >> republicans, what do they stand for? >> like you get to keep more of your money. >> what's the first thing you think of? >> like country folk down south. >> one of you -- about getting smacked in the mouth. >> conservative. >> i like them i think. one's for abortion and one's not. >> which one's which? >> republicans for, democrats not. >> you got it the other way. >> yeah. >> your general impression of the republican party? >> more for the rich, greedy. >> rich and greedy? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think we need a new party. republicans and democrats, how long has that been going on for? >> quite a long time. >> yeah, it's getting boring. >> bill o'reilly, on a scale of one to ten. >> he's like a 15. bill o'reilly from newport? >>

i don't understand why john boehner even wants this job. a year ago when ted cruz courageously talked about the funding of the government because of what he saw coming with obama care, john boehner acted like all these tea party republicans were a pain in his butt, and the fact that just moments ago he came out in support of his majority with representative scalise after it's been revealed that he sfoek at a white supremacist group. john boehner seems to be a nice guy. >> he is just making all the wrong moves. i think representative -- the speaker is back again. >> the final word on this, where where. >> it's not a problem, but with boehner, i think, one of the things that we're seeing is a lot of the fissures between the republican majority and the boehner has done about as good as job as anyone. >> thanks for the debate. >> thanks, heather. >> he was captured when his plane crashed in sear yashg but some analysts say that the story simply add up. >>> isis now relesion an apparent interview with a jordanian fighter pilot captured last week

john boehner says the american people want answers. mr. boehner, you're in a position of power. make sure those hearings take place. now washington is injecting itself into this process which i think is a good thing because washington has done those kinds of things in the past and i'll explain in a moment. the fact that john boehner is willing to admit that there is a problem is a big step forward. earlier today the congressional black caulk awes sought legal counsel concerning the grand jury testimony. they want the entire testimony released. members told me change can't take place unless there is complete transparency. as for the demonstrations across america as they take place, it's clear to me that these 20-somethings, these young americans out in the street, certainly they want justice, but they want more than justice. they want a better america. they want justice and they want fairness along with it. they want an opportunity and a better life and a system that doesn't favor the wealthy all the time. they want their voices heard. you know there was 190 cities in this countr

when boehner says he has nothing to turn to, that's absolutely not true. he does have a bill he can put in frornt of the house that was done by the gang of eight. that has been on their desk for over 500 days, he could do it tomorrow, he's just choosing not to. the president what he did with the executive action found a loophole where the fees pay for them selfs. if they choose not found and do the continuing regulation, they defund the programs that republicans care about. >> it is kwielt lquite literall cutting off your nose despite your face. >> exactly right. >> we know loretta lynch was on the hill today. she faces the possibility of next gop, will rehash this debate over executive action and the question of amnesty versus reform. >> it is clear they have gotten tired of obamacare. >> right. >> so they need something else to scream about but more they scream the higher they raise the stakes in terms of satisfying their base. so can't do anything on the mechanisms of government on immigration, per say, they will stop the appointment of loretta lynch he

john boehner, the speaker ruled out a shutdown real early. are we going to have an era of one kind of complicated messy compromise after another? gwen: you just mentioned john boehner. he is the speaker of the house last we checked. it doesn't seem like he is central to this debate. >> he was key to getting enough republicans on this board. it does give us a window into what is going to happen next year. two words to keep in mind next year, regular order. what does that mean? on the senate side and the house side of the capital, they don't appropriations bills one at a time, department by department like they used to. we'll see, that's what they say. >> no more cliffhangers, right? >> i don't know about that. it will be chapter by chapter. it's clear that republicans need democrats to vote with them on the spending bills. nancy pelosi is right in the sense that they have leverage a little bit. they do need some of those democrats in the middle. steny hoyer is a person you don't hear from a lot. he is the house whip. he got the 57 democrats to

that was boehner spokesman michael steele. you said not until june?is not until june. >> so we will wait that long? >> what i have heard from experts if he gets a jail sentence he could legally stay in congress but as a practical matter they will remove him. but short of that, in the meantime boehner has options to put pressure on him. >> what options. >> he could strip him of seniorit and committee appointments, that would make it less fun to be in congress. also he could be expelled. so the big question is what leadership decides to do. >> so let me read a quote from an article today. so should it be up to the voters? >> well, ultimately, it will. if michael grimm is removed there will be a special econo . election. but this one of the five crucial races for democrats. this is the last republican seat in new york city. so boehner wants to be careful not to make a decision that hurts the republican candidate in a future race. >> i want to go back to speaker boehner because he has several instances where he did push people to resign. in 2014 he pressu

there is nothing, says john boehner, that the congress can do.he congress and the senate run by republicans. when are we going to see checks and balances instituted, and if we have to say in january of 2017, we're in big trouble. >> undoubtedly. nothing we can do. we've got two years of this, the voters can't step in at this point. the dye is cast. they can make a change in 2016. until then it's going to be problematic. >> agree. lou: unfortunately. thank you very much, lis. lis wiehl, mercedes col win. great to have you both. >> thanks, lou. lou: now the wrap-up, the obama administration put traveling political troupe on lofty stage, the attorney general going to atlanta to the ebenezer baptist church on which dr. martin luther king preached and led the civil rights movement. at ebenezer baptist the climactic wrap-up led him to declare he would end racial profiling forever. of political theater, and that's too bad. thank you for being with us. neil: welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. al sharpton is his advisor on keeping people calm. eric hold

speaker boehner wants the battle in january.ther than having 45 republicans in the senate, there are 54. rather than having 234 republicans in the house, there are 245. and he thinks that that will not only mean a stron also means a greater likelihood that democrats will come along with them. bill: wow. >> very hard to see -- bill: you think that boehner's strategy will appease the conservatives who voted no last night? >> i'm not certain it will, look, there is a group within that element, no matter what boehner does they will be uncomfortable and unhappy wit. there is a small group of them. not all of them but a small group of them who are in permanent opposition. but i do thinking members like salmon and others will, will be more than placated by the republicans taking up in january and february similar measures in an effort to, when the dhs bill comes up, the dhs, dhs funding bill, department of homeland security funding bill they can rein in the president and do so with not only house voting for it, the house would have don