i like the bombastic trump, certainly a lot more fun to talk about.upporters are not ideologically driven. they like trump the character. i think he's just rounding out this character, whether or not they find it believable, that's another thing, but donald trump the family man, hey, why not? write that chapter, too. >> but the outsiders are the candidates catching fire, not only trump but carson, fiorina. what does that say, jonathan? >> people are mad as hell at the political establishment. the problem is the outsiders are also, especially trump, being powered by their entertainment value and if he, you know, gets too nice and cuddly he'll get boring and lose whatever it is that people think is funny and amusing and fun about him, which is his insult humor. he's in a little bit of a find but gaffe proof for the 20%, 15%, whatever it is, they will never abandon him as long as he's in the race. he could say anything. he could hang his behind out macy's window and they'd still vote for him because he's their guy, so he's now at a point where he does ha

so some people look at this and say, bombast? it works. >> well, you know what, megyn? it really doesn't. it doesn't work in campaigns either, because you build a campaign from the bottom up, not from the top down. and we've seen candidates who have had high poll numbers who faded like snow in the spring. in a political campaign, people watch. you don't put the roof on your house in one little poll to support your roof. you build your foundation up and build it higher and higher and have a topping off party when you put the roof on. if you think you can win -- how do you think these political up? they happen because people put the time in. so i'm very satisfied about this. when people talk about national polls, i do as well as i think i'm going to do in new hampshire. megyn, everybody will be clamoring for an interview, but you'll be one of the first that will get one. >> i love to end on the promise of an exclusive. thank you so much. always so great to see you. >> thanks, megyn. >> all the best. >>> we also have a fascinating story from a man who has investigated nume

he's so bombastic and outray just it almost feeds the biologic that in a year when we should win the presidency that we should nominate. there is a legit gnat mat concern he's not an authentic conservative through decades of statements. truck, bawrn rubio look to be the most electable. the only surprise on the list is jeb bush doing as well as he's doing base has not captured and inspired as much attention as trump or carson. it does not surprise me. reporter: the attributes people are looking for. people want someone with private sector experience. that benefits truck and carson. harris: i this these people are look at the same poms we are look at from associated press. 72% of republican-leaning voters want an outsider. so it's understandable why it might change stone between the two of them because they have to be hyper focused. you mentioned jeb bush. he had a big family meeting with some of the donors at the hilton in houston and they are starting to look at the viability of his campaign. no matter how much they love, if they don't click that chad and pull that leafer in your tow

of o'connor was bombastic, knew exactly what he was thinking, he was strong, outspoken, and jonas salk was the shy, retiring, very kind individual. coming back from a pallia meeting early on we have time together on the queen mary and that is where this deep friendship bordering on out love affair, they were crazy about each other and became lifelong friends and the little postbord they were crazy about each other and became lifelong friends and the little post cards and notes were endearing said their friendship week through the book and the saddest and most poignant part for me was when their friendship fell apart. >> that is for the end over issue is -- basil o'connor had a daughter. >> a daughter, called up one day and sent i have one of your diseases. she survived and developed a nice friendship with jonas salk this many people thought jonas salk, never had that scientists, some of them returned to the chosen. >> we will get to that in a minute. medical research was funded very differently than it is today. taco bell little bit about the march of dimes and the whole connection of

her rights organisation wants to use "bombastic," uganda's only lgbt magazine, to educate people. it's aimed mainly at non-gays. and they hold an annual parade as well. this year's in august was the fourth. there's a great deal of help from abroad. supporters of the movement donate money to the magazine. but back home, they constantly face hostility from the media, just the people they need as advocates. kasha: these are the people we are living with. these are the people who are pelting stones to us, these are people who are pointing fingers, who are sexually abusing us, who are beating us. we need them to report positively, so that we can minimize the risks. reporter: in 2014, the government wanted to pass a law that would put gays and lesbians behind bars for life. after protests by activists and international pressure, it was overturned. among the people on the streets, ignorance and fear prevail. >> i reject homosexuality. if a man sleeps with you, you ruin yourself. >> but if you're poor and gays want to sleep with you, you can earn money. >> people can choose for themselves

they are okay with some bombastic rhetoric but they don't like it when it gets really personal.lains why he is doing so well. >> they are both what we call outsiders. that's interesting that the first one and two still the outsiders. >> exactly. with ben carson you get that purely outsider conservative candidate but you don't have any of the same offensive bombast that you have with donald trump. so he is sort of the milder alternative for conservatives who are frustrated with their party. >> is trump spending as much party, if you know, in iowa, time or money as carson. >> you know, trump been relying so much on free media. on paid mediaened a attention from the cable news show who just have him on all the time. that's starting to go away. now he has to decide, you know, he has to combine this strong grass roots support with some actual purchasing of ads and some actual organization because the cable shows might not carry forever. >> it is such a big jump though for ben carson in one month. >> it absolutely is. ben carson is killing trump with niceness. upbeat and warm he hasn'

. >> he is bombastic, but that is his style. it served him well to date. in a 3-4 words, what you think about donald trump? >> aggressive, nonsensical, over-the-top. >> not a strong christian. >> straightforward, intelligent, conniving. >> intelligent, businessman, open-minded. >> politically incorrect. >> i would have to agree with you -- politically incorrect. >> mouth shooting volcano. >> confident, arrogant, winner. john: why do you think trump is so brutally critical of other candidates in the race? >> i don't think i appreciate it when he puts others on the defense. i think it makes him look, you know, bad. >> to me it is kind of a vetting process. if you are going to lead an entire country, you should be able to withstand attacks from another candidate. if you watch this debate, you will remember this moment. >> ms. fiorina, in an interview in rolling stone magazine, donald trump says, "look at that face, would anyone vote for that?" mr. trump later said he was talking about your persona, not your appearance. >> i think women all over this country h

they can say he's not a great christian, arrogant, bombastic, close minded. he says things they would never let their children get away with, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. winner. americans feel like they've been getting kicked around for the past 50 years and they want to start winning one. >> yeah, we talk a lot about people's disgust with washington. that's part of it. i think what you're talking about explains the durability and if you take it to foreign policy, there's a feeling we've been coming up on the short end against putin and afghanistan, it doesn't feel like we're winning anything. people don't feel like they're getting ahead. i think that to me explains, the outsider piece has made sense to me from the beginning. the notion we're going to restore the greatness is to me what buys him the latitude to be the lack over on the stump. people believe when he says he'll transfer some of his ability to get deals that put us ahead and put a winning brand on the country. >> and leaks around washington are arrogant about donald trump and call him a buff

in contrast to the billionaire real estate moguls bombastic style, carson's staffers say the retired neurosurgeon will maintain his low key style. "i don't think that very many people think that he is too laid back to be president: i think that people really really appreciate his temperament " the rest of the candidates, lagging far behind the front runners hope the debate will present opportunities for them to distinguish themselves among a crowded field. jeb bush, hiking with veterans here in colorado before the debate, after cutting staff, and struggling to find footing in the race. a fight for the nomination that tonight's debate could help better define. the two hour debate will air on here in des moines, one group is hoping to prove a point at a debate watch party tonight... "make it work" is hosting the event at "saints pub and patio" in des moines. the campaign pushes for equal pay... and the menu will reflect the message. organizers priced the drinks to reflect the average gender wage gap in iowa. so they will cost one dollar for men... and 77 cents for women. the event star

. >> reporter: his demeanor strikes quite a contrast with the bombastic donald trump.mpaign says the more people who see it, the better he'll do. >> my friend and i pray every night that he gets elected. so go ben. >> reporter: and in the all-important iowa caucuses that contrast could make all the difference. women who plan to vote there are split on trump. while carson's favorability with them, as trump would say -- >> huge! >> huge. all right. once again it's friday and that means the hill's kevin cirilli is with us. >> happy friday. thanks for having me. >> absolutely. let's get to hillary clinton and we'll get back to ben carson. first, did her measured response to the 11-hour grilling on benghazi really help her campaign? >> you know, she was able to walk away from 11 hours of testimony. think about that. an 11-hour job interview, if you will, without a major, significant gaffe. now, of course, i think republicans will say that there are more questions that are left to be answered. but democrats are probably feeling pretty good this morning that vice president jo

he's got sort of a quiet... he was not a bombastic speaker. he told his story in very soft tones and very quiet tones. but the thing is cesar had strength. he was just so strong and so determined and so willing to sacrifice, you know, with all of the fasts that he did, his 25 day fast, and the last one for 36 days because of pesticides. and so when you met cesar right away you sensed this inner strength. but he was not, like, this, you know, huge, charismatic kind of a person, you know? >> hinojosa: so when you think about tactics, the tactics that you used... you know, again, if you want to study them, they're amazing, right? organizing, grassroots organizing, boycotting, nonviolence, strikes, fasting. put that into the context of our modern america. do these kinds of organizing tools still work? >> oh, absolutely. they absolutely do work. but i think people have to have faith that they will work. and especially when you use any of the nonviolent tactics. because what you do is the people that are engaged in nonviolence, they really grow. and

. >> did your personal distaste for his bombastic style and maybe some of his positions because he's not a conservative call your judgment at all? by the way, you have plenty of company. >> well, i try not to let that. and there are other candidates. whether i like them, or not, i try not to let that cloud my judgment. but i do think that, you know, kelly was talking about the world having changed. i think part of what's changed, though, is helping donald trump in the sense. i think the politics is helping donald trump. i think the fact that we cover news as entertainment. and i think the fact that people used to value things like humility more. and now we like the -- i think that's part of why trump has succeeded. >> well, they don't value humility in television anchors. kelly, it's fine to criticize trump, question his policies, question how much he has changed in the past, some of which he has acknowledged. so many sundays i have sat here and someone has said, well, donald trump said this, and this is it, clearly, hoe's done, he' going to implode and it doesn't happen. >> no, it d

what i can tell you is you don't win jobs through bombast, yelling, or working people over, beating them up. >> reporter: ben carson now leading trump in iowa. >> i'm ben carson. >> reporter: released this new tv ad. the theme, the former neurosurgeon is not impossible. >> the political class and their pundit buddies say impossible. he's too outside the box. well, they do know impossible. impossible to balance the budget, impossible to put aside partisanship. >> reporter: the poll shows carson with a 22% lead over trump with evangelical voters. in just over two weeks, trump has lost 12 points among ev evangelic evangelicals. trump has lost ground in every single demographic group while carson has gaped. the best news for trump, 54% of supporters say they've made up their mind and only 19% of carson voters are that certain. that certainty may prove pivotal for trump down the stretch. >>> the people who make "saturday night live" are coming under fire for inviting donald trump to host the show next month. jan crawford has that story. >> reporter: a coalition of latino groups says trump's r

do you want him to be loud and bombastic? >>. >> what do you want? >> let trump be trump. >> he's way too sensitive. >> what is that like? >> just like obama. you say something about obama, he gets all mad. >> that's the thing. you said it first. he attacks them first and then goes on the deep end. but what about his attacks on carson's face? on carson being low. >> carson first, in his face. >> but then carson apologized. >> trump didn't attack carson. but then truch came out and atacked carson again. >> and he said he's low energy. and he said some things are going to come out. >> i mean, it's just pointing out the truth. >> you say he only counter attacks. >> let's not forget the fact that he built his career on citizenship. >> if you look at data from gallop, hispanics are negative 51%. >> you like trump? >> yeah, i like trump a lot. >> what do you like about him? >> we have some very hard times coming up in this world. when i want my president to stand up to china, russia, middle east, that's going to be the guy that i will trust and purn them o

toually, his bombast is easy dismiss, but there is some truth in his claims. he did once study law who had been a law partner of abraham lincoln, but there is no reason to doubt his most amazing claim. which is, in 1851 he led a party is and at sketch artist from california all the way back to st. louiss, making the daguerreotypes that would serve as studies for an enormous panorama that he called the panther scope of california. penta scope of california. his claim of these daguerreotype s seemed implausible, but he did provide documents of the interior west, capturing images of topographic features and important site along the oberlin trail. the first pictures of western indian communities and even the first daguerreotype of the buffalo. history of ranks among one of the most ambitious photographic projects. but the panther scope, the movie painting, was void imagined as in the end product of his labors. like countless other expeditions that expedition is, they valued -- other studies of representation, once the daguerreotypes served their purpose, they disa

do you want a mild-mannered soft-spoken low energy kind of guy or someone who will be bombastic becauseto get this figured out. more importantly, i am glad someone else is at the top in iowa because now we can affect andfit and talk about his position on gun control, abortion, amnesty, global warming. let's start talking about doctor carson. charles: where do you weigh in? i like the idea of everyone being vetted a little bit more. i am hoping we will get greater clarity from all. >> there are a couple of things. there is a likability. aa likability. a lack of that negative edge, more positive feeling about him. part of it is that it plays with social conservatives. in favor of the flat tax, but expressed it in terms of the biblical concept that you give a flat 10 percent which is true if you make a billion dollars over a hundred dollars. the caution is the trump is down and carson is up. it's worth keeping in mind that he led the democrats through all of summer and fall and fell from grace rapidly. charles: ebony, to that point and in the same poll, it was interesting where he scores b

general assembly, and it was amazing how netanyahu was so bombastic. and global leadership including president obama, but also, the other war leaders, who would have a say about this question, did not say a word. there was not a single word in president obama's speech at the united nations about the continued occupation of palestine and the siege in jerusalem and the failure of the peace process. and so you would find the palestinians are basically, you know, fenderring fo fending for. they are now certainly fending for themselves. >> when you say fending for themselves we have had a response from israeli government, what about the palestinian authority would their response be likely to cool tempers or not? >> well, we have already heard from president abbas a couple of days ago, he says this needs to calm down, people need to take hold of the situation, there should be no escalation and no violence. so we already know what president behal abbas does. just like they're not hearing from hamas. palestinians have learned not to take serious anymore when p

but when you spend your time sort of being very bombastic and declaring certain things, you know, how you going to get it done? you can't deliver, what's the point? you're nothing more than a changing bell. >> kasich began in second place to donald trump. he's fourth training ben carson and carly fiorina. carson held a town hall in new hampshire. >> there's some question if i'm on the media and the political elite. talking about i should get this. i'm not going to do it the way politician does it because i'm in the a politician. >> ahead of tonight's deadline, carson aides boasted having raised $20 million in the last three months. half in the last four weeks. in which carson defended and explained his opposition to a muslim president unwilling to renounce sharia islamic law for the constitution. at the end of the second quarter, ted cruz and jeb bush led the fundraising race, for bush, he had about $100 million and cruz was at about $50 million if they continue to build on that, they could both be very tough to catch. brett? >> carl cameron live in davenport. thank you. >>> still ahe

by the way, in any country, they offer a lot of bombastic nonsense. >> a nice push-back from the frenchassador to the u.s. as he says in that, highlighting the benefits of the french rules. fair enough. obviously bush wasn't necessarily being anti-french. he was making a funny point to his criticism. but it didn't go down that well. he fought back. you could see it on bush's face as well. he wasn't necessarily prepared for the fight back. it made him look quite awkward. >> you thought so? >> yeah. >> he hasn't landed any blows in the first three republican debates. one of his supporters in the past coming out after this debate saying you have to make some sort of impact here. as you see in the campaign, his campaign, you know, his employees and also just losing steam in the last few weeks. and people have a lot of concerns about where this is going. >> absolutely. let's bring in boris epstein. thanks for joining us early this morning. >> absolutely. >> what was your main takeaway from last night? >> it was a very spirited debate. i thought trump did a great job. christie stood outside.

in contrast, to the billionaire real estate mogul's bombastic style, carson staffers say the retired neurosurgeon will maintain his lee low-key style. >> i don't think people think president. people really, really appreciate his temperament. >> reporter: the rest of the candidates lagging far behind the fruners, hope the debate will present opportunities for them to distinguish themselves among a crowded field. jeb bush hiking with veterans here in colorado before the debate. he hopes to kick-start his campaign after cutting staff and struggling to find footing in the race. a fight for the nomination that tonight's debate could help better define. nbc news, boulder. >> jadiann: well, it's beautiful day for a spacewalk. right? the two have 7 hours of work to do out there. tomorrow will be the 216th day of this mission. a new record for the single longest flight by a u.s. astronaut. >> christa: just aid he on 7: one of the country's largest pharmacy chains changing hands. >> jeremy: rain and wind heading for new england late today and tonight. >> jadiann: all right, everyone. don't fee

trump's ability to command voter and news media attention similarly by being his out landish bombasticis starting to wane. is this your experience that interest is starting to wane? >> not in the slightest. he has enough press requests for the next five years for multiple times during a day. absolutely inaccurate. he represents exactly what america is looking for, leadership, ability and nothing shy of being what an american president should be. >> let me you a couple of questions about media coverage. you said fox news was trying to get donald trump out of the race. there's been feuding going back and forth. right now it seems like they've made peace. >> there's no problem now with fox. >> give us insight on how you got to that point. >> i wasn't involved in that so i don't know. i know there's no issue any longer between fox and mr. trump. >> there were reports that the head of fox news would meet with mr. trump. do you know if it happened? >> i'm not going to discuss mr. trump's private affairs with the head of fox. >> right now no feud. would he ever go on meagan kelly show? >> i d

the bombastic millionaire has mounted the most relentless media blitz in campaign history. pushing his message on the morning shows, evening shows, sunday shows, late-night shows, even "60 minutes." when trump says something controversial about illegal immigrants, john mccain, that anti-muslim questioner. many commentators predict his imminent demise. he's had great success punching back against the unpopular press and can make news with a single insulting tweet against his rivals or his media detractors. what most of the news business miss is how trump's supposed liabilities, no political experience, vague policy pronouncements and in your face style, would resonate with a fed-up republican electorate. now there's no certainty that trump will win the nomination. but the media are no longer in denial that he could. chris? >> howie, thank you. the website, wikileaks is posting documents it says are from the personal email account of c.i.a. director john brennan. the first batch documents about torture policy and analysis of political figures in iran, and biographical form fi

you cannot ignore all the bombastic rhetoric because they have invaded places. recently. so, the arctic is a wildcard. then, the security threats. these geos security threats. like arab spring. that is happening right now. any questions on this? yes? the question was, has the navy's done anything in response to this analysis? of navy has a couple of things out and the department of defense, which the navy as part of, has kind of, since i have left, it has sort of taken over a lot of this. high level of documentation. strategic plans. to do.s as far as what i would say on the disaster relief, we have that covered. they are thinking through what they will do. as you recapitalize infrastructure, how do you build it so it needs less fresh water. power have its own supply. it can be more resilient. you understand where the critical dependencies are. if it is near the ocean, you are almost part of a town. put hardou no good to levees around a base if your workforce lives in the town. you are shunting the raptor out of your basic hand into their kitchen. you're not going to have

secondly, less bombastic of personalities. no question about that. so for the most part, the democrats, you know, they agree on things like the environment, the role of government, they agree on the right to choose, that whole issue. even immigration reform. there will be some differences on foreign policy, there will be differences on gun control. so the opportunities to fight it out there. otherwise, guess what? otherwise what they'll be talking about is not their issues and positions but how long they've held those positions which may not lead to a lot of excitement, raj. >> we've mentioned the vice president, joe biden. it's an interesting story that he might jump in tomorrow night. what are the real chances he's going to join this race at any point. >> you know, every day that biden delays, he faces three serious problems. looming deadlines, for all these things, you got to sign up ahead of time, the primaries, the caucuses. the lack of staff on the ground in those states and fewer uncommitted big money contributors. they're not going to hang ar

i -- the evolution of this campaign has been trump came out very bombastic, very confrontational, whichd the purpose to get him on the charts and it got him to the top. now we're seeing he's kind of reeling it back. he's becoming a little more mellow, a little more experienced with handling the media, handling -- you know, the speeches he gives are incredibly powerful. you know, whether or not he's the best debater out there, i think marco rubio is fantastic, but donald trump, i think, is a visionary, he's a negotiator. he is -- you know, he is getting things done. you know, he is more of a leader. you know, if you look at -- you know, if you want to look at nuance, you see kasich there who seemed really kind of rattled. donald trump was pretty laid back. so, i think that's kind of a shift. i don't think it's a bad thing. i just think we're seeing an evolution. >> you heard mike bring up the media and the moderators there. that ended up being the dominant theme on the stage with everyone on stage attacking everyone sitting just off stage asking the questions. ted cruz may have had his s

one of the thing you said today is we have to stop listing to the bombast in d.c. by that? >> well, greta, look, it's easy to stand and yell about the way things ought to be. it's another thing to be able to be effective and actually get things done. and you know over the course of my career, whether it was military reform, whether it was balancing the federal budget, all these things shook up the town as i think you know. when i became governor of ohio i you shook everything from top to bottom but i got it done. you don't want to be a clanging bell where all you do is go out there and make speeches and blame somebody else. the question is what is the practical things and the creative and innovative things that you can do to be signed into law. because we have a lot of challenges. we have got to protect our border. we have to reform our tax code. we have to balance our budget. we have to deal with entitlements. we have to have a stronger foreign policy. you can't do it just yelling and screaming about it you have to get it done. >> i note that you are moving up, in

in contrast to the billionaire real estate mogul's bombastic style, carson staffers say the retired neurosurgeon will maintain his low key style. >> i don't think very many people think it's too late. i think people really, really appreciate his temperament. >> the rest of the candidates lagging behind hope the debate will present opportunities for them to distinguish themselves among the crowded field. jeb bush hiking with veterans here in colorado before the debate hopes to kick start his campaign after cutting staff and struggling to find footing in the race. a fight for the nomination univght's debate could help better define leann greg, nbc news, boulder. report speaking of boulder, this ates live look at the so-called spin room at the university of colorado in boulder. this is where reporters can speak with the gop candidates and their representatives after tonight's debate. of course nbc correspondents are roready there. you can watch it on our sister station cnbc starting at 5:00. >>> three dangerous men are shot and the run in the south wner but now we know what they look like. police r

bush type, and the bombast and bragging he has so much money. >> his critics liked donald trump and had's just simply a cultural rift. you can see like someone like mitt romney wouldn't like donald trump. >> can those two parts of the party get along? it's part and parcel of that what's going on with the speaker issue. >> tee rein you're seeing this disaray in republican, like the' fight seen in money anchorman." --" "anchorman. "people sense that hillary is weak and this is a chance to take a flier. that's why 16, 17 guys got into the race in the first place. when you think the g.o.p. has a good chance to win the stakes are such they can -- >> you don't want to screw it up. a column in the "wall street journal," republicans can grab defeat from the jaws of victory. >> they have a gift for that. >> what would screw those up? those support the donald trumps or outside the box candidates, that may be also less controversial, carly fiorina, ben carson, but that's the key to winning the white house back. >> if you look at the polls, donald trump this front-runner but has a solid ceiling. 25

donald trump is bombastic, loud, almost aabrasive. dr. carson more cerebral and bedside manner. >> not what you saw but how you say it, right? don't american voters someone is little more emphasize fattic delivering a message than dr. carson is? >> i'm not so sure. dr. carson is real appeal is like trumps but their demeanor are totally different. they're outsiders, don't come from a political background. they're surging in the polls, why? they're different and anti-establishment. trish: yeah. >> the question will that resonate? i happen to believe 2015 is year of outsider but i think 2016 may be the year of the insider. trish: in other words we'll pivot. >> sure. trish: still early in the game. that could quite turn out to be the case. look at dr. carson, to me so many ways symbolizes how great this country can be. how we really are the land of opportunity. this is a guy who had odds severely stacked against him. his own mother did not finish third grade. she went on then to get married at the age of 13. turns out her husband is a bigamis

as for donald trump, he has been very effective as the bombastic spokesman, but no one likes a whinerr complainer and he's got to stop doing that. liz: great to have both of you. i would demand frozen twix bars and vanilla candles in my green room. haly, david, great to have both of you. if you can't catch tonight's debate because you're watching fox and the world series, we've got you covered. nothing to worry about, in less than two weeks, fox will host our own republican debate. trish, sandra and maria and neil host the main event. the dow industrials are up 161 points. all of it more. and let's go mets for david paterson. >>> jeff flock in the heart of the lone star state to show us how beef ranchers plan to raise their animals differently to grow what, the profits, jeff? >> i'm going to talk to one of america's foremost cattle ranchers about the world health organization, and well, what he thinks about what they had to say about his beef? stand by. you both have a perfect driving record. >>perfect. no tickets. no accidents... >>that is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining

bombastic trump versus the quiet calling ben carson. ben carson is not really go after people he is who he is. donald trump is now calling ben carson low-energy. me, it -- ben carson to is not low-energy he's just very calm. that.of people like it's not -- it is different from the allegation of low energy against jeb bush. host: linda feldmann, thank you for stopping by. we will take a short break it will become back we will turn our attention to the alarming rise of drug abuse and heroin use in this country. something the president talked about this weekend in west virginia. dr. andrew kolodny will be joining us, chief medical officer of phoenix house. later, canadians of electing a liberal prime minister with a familiar last name. learn more about justin trudeau with laura dawson of the wilson .enter for canada institute you are watching and listening to c-span's washington journal this sunday morning, october 25. ♪ all persons having business before the honorable supreme court of the united states, draw near give their attention. >>

. >> for several months donald trump has been going around the country saying outrageous bombastic things prompting people to scratch their heads and say how does this guy say these things and still lead the pack? yet ben carson has been going around and in the most polite softest way he's been reliably and consistently saying even more outrageous things than donald trump. and he is in second place. when we come back, understanding the ben carson phenomenon and just why he has so much support. that's next. do you know the secret to a happy home in these modern times? it's a housewife who's in control of the finances. actually, any wife, husband, or human person can use progressive's name your price tool to take control of their budget. and while the men do the hard work of making money, she can get all the car insurance options her little heart desires. or the women might do the hard work of making money. [ chuckling ] women don't have jobs. is this guy for real? modernizing car insurance with -- that's enough out of you! the name your price tool, only from progressive. where is your husb

the bombastic millionaire has mounted the most relentless media blitz in campaign history.hing his message on the morning shows, evening shows, sunday shows, late-night shows, even "60 minutes." when trump says something controversial about illegal immigrants, john mccain, that anti-muslim questioner. many commentators predict his imminent demise. he's had great success punching back against the unpopular press and can make news with a single insulting tweet against his rivals or his media detractors. what most of the news business miss is how trump's supposed liabilities, no political experience, vague policy pronouncements and in your face style, would resonate with a fed-up republican electorate. now there's no certainty that trump will win the nomination. but the media are no longer in denial that he could. chris? >> howie, thank you. the website, wikileaks is posting documents it says are from the personal email account of c.i.a. director john brennan. the first batch documents about torture policy and analysis of political figures in iran, and biographical form filled

change in any way in terms of style, in terms of how he criticizes other candidates, in terms of his bombastthe campaign trail and during the debates? robert: he still wants to be the celebrity. he will be on twitter. he wants to be accessible to the media. what was interesting -- i sat down with him multiple times. this is the most contemplative i saw him. the most thoughtful in this post summer period. when the cameras are off trump tones down the act. he actually sees the nomination with insight. that is something he did not think would be possible when he entered the race in the early summer. he entered to win. but he also wanted to make a point. he wanted to be in the arena. he'd thought about it in 2012. did not do it. but i think he is also a realist. he knew it was a long shot coming in. he said it took him a while to get to yes. but it moved at a rapid pace. charlie: and what you think, and what to those people that you talk to, the political pros, the strategists, think about his chances of getting the nomination? what does he have to do to ensure that? robert: rival campaigns have

. >> nobody really knows why he chose not to be as bombastic usual? >> no.he did hit back against kasich. >> i think it's typical donald though in this respect. if you hit him, is he going to hit you back. and kasich decided to do that and took the worst of the battle there. >> kasich has to make the point and so do you, that you guys are sitting governors, that you have a record. and that the other guys don't have any record and that's what john was trying to do. >> listen, my point bill is this: you can do that without attacking somebody else. >> jeb bush attacked rubio. >> well, it was a big mistake? >> you think so. >> i do. big mistake for two reasons we shouldn't be attacking each other up there at this point in time. >> i agree you have got to go after hillary and barack obama. >> the problem with hillary there is so much to attack and definitely not enough time to do it. >> you didn't get as much air time as you. >> "new york times" attacked you today they said quote the point is that new jersey is in big trouble, the governor is off pursuing a presi