but boyce's adventures were not over.scaped in 1980 followed by 19 months on the run robbing banks. after being caught and serving more time, he was paroled in 2003. he had served only 25 years of his sentence. boyce credits a paralegal, kate mills, with his release. they fell in love and married while he was still in prison. this summer they went public with what happened after boyce's conviction in a memoir, "the falcon and the snowman: american sons." christopher and his wife sat down with me for an exclusive interview. i asked why he sold secrets to the soviet union and if it was worth it. i also asked boyce if he thinks edward snowden did the right thick and why he's releasing this new book now. >> to be sentenced to prison, you need to be able to at least exist and not, you know, be murdered. the people were being murdered all around me. and it was a regular gladiator school where i was. so i escaped to save my life, and it's a story that i wanted to tell. >> reporter: you said in a phone interview on cnn that if yo

you were trying to get out boyce's co-conspirator, andrew dalton lee. to free these two men? >> in my various meetings with dalton, we became very close friends and i was very fond of dalton and i couldn't not be involved in that. so, as i struggled to work with him, i also realized that i needed to communicate with ch s chris, mostly because i wanted some kind of an input from chris as to what i could do to help dalton, what i could tell the commission at his hearings. and as i got more and more involved with it and just became friends with chris, it kind of took over. >> what happened to that relationship and why did it go away? >> i think that he blames me, in a way, for what we both did, and that's understandable. >> and cait, you worked for a very long time to try to free this man and now you're not speaking to him? >> it's not that i'm not speaking to him. i would be more than happy to talk to dalton, but there's no part of dalton that's ever going to forgive me for marrying chris. >> well, i also asked christopher and cait about bradley manning,

people and he was a carpenter for the city's most serious triple owe gees on the planet, the jones boycegot my medals, switchblade, seven years old, ice pick in my head. >> so what got you out of the gang life and into the music? >> oh, no, no. my father was busy all the time. my mother was put in a mental home. so he was never home to look out after us. he was working and all. he was working with these guys. capone found out that they started a policy racket in the first black-owned businesses. the five and dime stores. they made $100 million one year in the '30s. that's like $1 billion, you know. he freaked out. he underestimated them. they -- he ran them out of chicago to mexico and the next day, my father came and got my brother and i and put us on the trailway bus with him and went to the northwest. >> thank god. and we are still going to the baby gangsters, right? doing everything, burning down dance halls and breaking into stores and everything, man. we broke into an army one weekend. we heard they had this lemon meringue pie and ice-cream. so we broke in and ate up all that and g

his name is christopher boyce. cnn sat down with him for his first on camera interview in 28 years.w. >>> i knew this was going to be a heavy lift. >> and after the g-20 summit it may have gotten heavier as a congressional vote looms on whether to strike syria, the white house goes into full-court press to win support at home and abroad. >> i can't erase what i have done, but you can still be saved. your victims can still be saved.

james boyce, a senior research fellow in london. thank you for being with us. i begin with this: we live in a microwave society. one day, the president appears to be gaining ground. the next day, he is losing that ground. with that as a backdrop, does a diplomatic solution to the crisis in syria appear to be a moot point? >> reporter: well, what you have seen is secretary of state kerry come over to europe after his efforts on the hill last week to try and convince senators and members of the house of the virtue of the white house plan. and one of the great problems, i think, is that it's all well and good for john kerry to talk about the acceptance of the international community to the fact that the assad regime was behind these attacks but what he cannot go beyond that and say, and, therefore, they agree we should all be committing strikes against syria, that's a wide leap and at the moment, there are very few nations jumping to that point. >> what about the arab league? will they back military action? and if not, what does kerry hope to gain from those natio

. >> going to indiana boyce school or girls school is the most restrictive place or restrictive punishment i could give them. you're in a prison. it's the worst thing i can do to them. >> some people it takes a big problem to open their eyes. just like for me, like i went to boys school and it calmed me down a lot. if you read my reports and everything about me, you would be like why would he be here now when we doing so good. like, i believe boys school changed me. >> he's done so much better than in the past. he was failing his classes. that changed. grades started improve. he starred working and unfortunately, when he hung around with the wrong crowd and you get blamed sometimes for things that you don't even do. >> big problem it's something i really didn't do this time. i'm black and i look like a thug and i got pone in my pocket. that's what it is. >> they just think i'm a drug dealer because look at all that, man. come on, they think everybody selling drugs when they're back. it's not even like that. i work hard for everything that i got. >> you have to problem them wrong. >> that's

. >> thompson: so you told the boss, "joan boyce needs to go to a skilled nursing home." >> yeah. >> thompson: what happened? >> they said, "we can take care of their needs. she doesn't need to move." >> thompson: eric boice's father spent part of every day with his wife. he began to worry that she wasn't getting the care she needed. he told his son. >> my dad said, "hey, you know, they're not treating mom well." and most of it i dismissed. i wanted to believe that that couldn't be happening. there was a good deal of denial. >> thompson: but after three months at emerald hills, it was clear to everyone that joan's health had declined dramatically. finally, she was moved to a nursing home, and it was there that doctors discovered that joan had an array of life-threatening wounds. >> people that go, "how would you not know that, you know, your own mother... weren't you there?" yeah, my wife and i were there four to five times a week between the two of us, but we didn't make it a habit to strip my mom down. you know, most of the time she was in a bed, blankets, sheets up on her. you kno

kevin boyce of stanford university, carl haber of lawrence berkeley national lab and david level of stanford. the grants are given to scientists, historians, writer, musicians and others. they are chosen for creativity and innovations in their fields. the prizes will be given out in five installments. >> it is like the lottery for geniuses >>> coming up, ted cruz pulls an all-nighter with no signs of stopping. we are going to check in with the senate's last man standing when he delivers a marathon speech. >>> plus, has the stock market peaked? new kindles to spark your interest. all ahead in interest. >>> a doll delay leads to fifst fights at yankee stadium. we will tell you about the breakdown that turned bobblehead night into a frenzy. >>> isn't that gorgeous out there as we await the sun's arrival overlooking san francisco. crystal clear. you can make out the transamerica pyramid. last wednesday of september. l it's going to feel like fall today. we'll check the forecast coming up. 6:10. >>> welcome back, 6:13. beautiful clouds overhead. you can watch them with the naked eye. storm system

do you think people have -- and what's the opposite of recency boyce? do you think people have an established idea of what these companies are in their head and think, oh, who cares? slow growth. >> that's exactly what we said. >> they don't realize what the companies are now. >> that get back to how they're covered by the analysts who put them in one category. the old guy still follow them from the chemical side. >> that's why we're here. >> by the way, the title of my segment today is companies in transition. and like a battleship which is very slow to turn, wall street analysts are the same way. >> maybe they should do a yahoo! and slightly tweak or just do something to look a little different to give us an idea. bob, it's always a pleasure. we will take boring any day. >> and his barber is going to be on next time. >> good one, brian. >> don't give me that look. come on. >> you're cutting it close. >>> still ahead, the top three places to buy a foreclosed home right now. >>> plus, in honor of oracle team usa/come wk win in the america ace cup, we ar

. >> about human freedom for boyce and girls under -- it doesn't matter.rew up homophobic as a child. so i think also in 18981 when i was outed i think i'm the first athlete who was outed but glen burke from the brooklyn dodgers in the '70s used to talk -- he was out but nobody ever -- nobody would talk about it. and i'm just learning more about glen burke who i think should br celebrated because he lived his life as a gay man but it was very difficult. he was with the dodgers and they offered him $75,000 to get married, for instance, just to hide it. and it was terrible way people treated him. but the media wasn't even ready to talk about in the those days. you know how the baseball writers were very protective until recently and now it's hard to protect any privacy but i think i was probably the first athlete to be outed in 1981 and then martina came out -- >> rose: how did you handle that? >> i had to fight with my lawyer and publicist that i wanted to have a press conference and they said "no, you don't do that." >> 5 i said "i don't care, i'm going t

excited to invite and have at my table here, soledad o'brien, josh barrel, politics editor, and andrew boyce, former policy adviser to mitt romney. thank you all for being here. bill, i want to start with you, right now, are the banks still in the too big to fail category? >> absolutely. they are more concentrated than ever. we've lost three of our big five banks in this crisis. bear stearns is gone. lehman brothers is, of course, gone, liquidated, and merrill lynch is not nearly what it once was as part of bank of america. so where we had five powerful top big wall street firms, now we've got two to three and they're much more concentrated and much more powerful. this is a huge lost opportunity. remember five years ago, there was incredible fear in this country. that's when things get done on wall street, where the lines of fear and greed cross. this time we missed this opportunity. the banks are stronger than ever. >> soledad, i'm interested in this missed opportunity idea. i'm wondering if in part it has to do with our public discourse around the banks. >> absolutely. no one cares. your a

. >> reporter: the boyce's father spent years searching with limited help from law enforcement.y impeded by an odd florida state law. >> the supreme court has said in states that have held grandparents may have actual rights to access to the grandchildren. that varies across states. >> reporter: earlier this year, the boy's father and aunt hired a private investigator who helped track him from florida to putnam county, missouri and iowa in july. >> when i located her in putnam county, the police chief informed me that grandmother and the boy had moved a month and a half previous. >> reporter: hate and her grandson were homeless, recently living at this house in missouri. then a break in the case when hate tried to enroll the teen at this school, administrators grew suspicious and called police. >> and had some concerns if they were the actual parent. >> reporter: just days ago, police arrested hate and picked the boy up at school, returning him to his dad for the first time since he was a baby. >> i was just ecstatic. all i wanted was a happy outcome and i got it. >> reporter: s

boyce disagreed vehemently. he argued that blacks in the civil rights movement in general had to be much more aggressive and active. they had to become troublemakers, organize everywhere that they could. it was the boys came up with the concept. by that he meant that the civil rights movement and the black community as a whole needed to identify the cream of the crop, the very best and brightest and get in to be a kind of vanguard for the movement, to lead the charge, to decide what happened when and to decide the tactics and strategies and so forth for the movement. so you have these two models of civil rights. both of them, when you think about it, our elite models. w.e.b. du bois focused on the talented tenth. booker t. washington focused on a small group of black leaders within the community operating within the confines of segregation. but along came a. philip randolph, born in crescent city, florida. he moved to new york because you wanted to be an actor and appeared in many plays. his father did not appro

boyce disagreed vehemently. he argued that blacks in the civil rights movement in general had to be much more aggressive and active. they had to become troublemakers, organize everywhere that they could. it was the boys came up with the concept. by that he meant that the civil rights movement and the black community as a whole needed to identify the cream of the crop, the very best and brightest and get in to be a kind of vanguard for the movement, to lead the charge, to decide what happened when and to decide the tactics and strategies and so forth for the movement. so you have these two models of civil rights. both of them, when you think about it, our elite models. w.e.b. du bois focused on the talented tenth. booker t. washington focused on a small group of black leaders within the community operating within the confines of segregation. but along came a. philip randolph, born in crescent city, florida. he moved to new york because you wanted to be an actor and appeared in many plays. his father did not appro

became infamous for selling secrets to the russian during the cold war, and his name was christopher boyce ring in her cup. >> he could have sold it and changed his life that way, but he didn't. >> she said i might have gaven you something very valuable, and i said was it a ring? she said yeah, and i said i have it, and my grandfather was a reverend and raised me until i was 6 years old, and thank the good lord for that blessing and i do have some character. >> the woman and her husband were so moved they started an online campaign for him, and they were hoping to raise $1,000, but at the end of the campaign, they raised $191,000 from all over the world. >> he bought his own car and has speaking engagements and just about to put a down payment on his own home. >> you don't know how good it feels to stick my own key in the door and open the door and go in and then lock it when i leave. i will probably be standing around here one day, and going to shop at urban outfitters, and somebody walk-up and will hand me a dollar bill they are so used to seeing me out here. >> kindness comes from aroun